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Curious of any of you use CBD oil and if so for what purpose? I’m starting to have people recommend it for better sleep and lowering anxiety. My barber swears by it and said a drop before bed would change my life.
My wife uses it for anxiety as well. Sleep's been stressful while on mat leave, she says it helps a ton and in the 10 months she's been using it, she hasn't complained of any side effects.
I tried it out for 40 year old skateboarder joint pain but didn't notice any real improvement, that said I have some friends who swear by it.
- What type of anxiety does she have and how has it helped?HijoDMaite
- It's not diagnosed, but is consistent with what new moms go through, then the anxiety of going back to work/leaving child in day care...ben_
- About 2 months after our daughter was born, she started having trouble sleeping (not the normal kind, our daughter has been a great sleeper)...ben_
- so she says it helps her relax and probably more specifically not wake up in panic, similar to melatonin before bed.ben_
I haven’t really spoken about this but I’ve been struggling with major driving anxiety for a few years. It sucks big time. I’m afraid to get on major freeways for long distances up to an hour or more. Also terrified of big bridges and major overpasses. So bad that on road trips I have to let my wife drive when we get to high altitudes. It’s also an issue when driving at night at high speeds.
I basically feel trapped in the car, like I will end up getting an anxiety attack and be stuck on the freeway totally paralyzed. If I’m near a cliff or a bridge I feel that I may fly off the cliff to my death. I have no idea where this came from. It just started around the time I got married. I was also fresh off the drugs around that time too. Used to do a bunch of coke and smoke a ton of weed so maybe stopping all that brought it on.
Anyway my doctor has prescribed a few things that have helped but not all the way. I took Celexa for a while and it helped. But it made me feel like shit. I was always tired and had terrible memory from it so I stopped taking it. I’m still overweight and don’t exercise that much so maybe changing that would help. I’ve been considering CBD oil but tbh I don’t believe any of this shit. To me it’s all bullshit just like taking vitamins and minerals. But maybe I should give it a chance. Anyone out that can relate to my issues?
Another option I’ve considered is just going to a psychologist that can help with phobias. Basically fight this thing head on and get over it but that sounds terrifying.
- give it a shot, theres no danger in it, could help but definitely won't hurt._niko
- I liken it to the effects of a cup of coffee but the reverse._niko
- My partner has similar issues with certain driving conditions. Led to her having problems in a job in Italy a few years back, as she spacked out on a bridge.Nairn
- Turns out she might've had a point - it was the one that collapsed in Genoa a year or so back.Nairn
- Anyway, given CBD's an active constituent of cannabis - it's the bit that balances out the THC - i'd say it's more than just pseudo- science.Nairn
- Give it a whirl - what's the harm? My only concern would be that there's a LOT of product out there, and I imagine most of it is bullshit/low quality.Nairn
- Consulting a psychologist would be a very good idea Hijo +trying the CBDBennn
- + to a therapist or psych if you can afford it. Self medicating is one thing, root problem another. Good luck.ben_
- Hijo, I have the exact same thing. Came on a couple years ago, still struggle with it. High speeds, bridges, overpasses.letterhead
- I feel paralyzed like I'll pass out or drive off the road. I also have my wife drive in high altitudes. Same exact thing youre describingletterhead
- I've been using a CBD vape for the past 6 months or so, I keep it in the console. I can't definitively say it works or not.letterhead
- I can't totally confirm it works, but it seems to (placebo effect?). Anyway I still use it, placebo or not.letterhead
- Also, exercise, good sleep and no alchohol help more than anything, so far.letterhead
- I've got a 7 day road trip coming up in a month and I'm terrifiedletterhead
- You need a mantra—something for your mind to focus on in the here and now. (Breath maybe?) Has helped me. I still get anxious, but that's usually user error. ;Pjaylarson
- I take CBD pills mostly for the anti-inflammatory purposes, and to relax myself before going to bed. The higher the dose the more medical it is, it does help.Maaku
- But you believe in all other prescription drugs? CBD in effect helped me get through some major driving anxiety set on by lack of sleep and too much caffeine.sea_sea
- If you do the research you'll discover why people have been fighting for so long for this to be legal. Placebo? At this point won't you try anything?sea_sea
- You do have to figure out your dose so it might take a bit. combined with breathing and mental redirecting techniques, proper sleep and hydrationsea_sea
- Natural remedies have been around for ages for a reason. Give yourself a chance. I'm open to sharing with you what worked for me. pm me boo.sea_sea
- Stop suffering and yes try everything that might work for you. Thing is, we must be proactive with our own healing, it's in our hands.sea_sea
- @hijo, reading your post was like a description of myself, I have suffered the same driving anxiety for a few years, came from nowhere. Only ever above afadein11
- certain speed or motorways (highways). I have read a lot about it, it's common, some say it's a form of vertigo bizarre as it sounds. Wish there was a way offadein11
- communicating direct as it would be a lot easier than on here. Tiredness is a factor for me. But my partner does all the major driving now. Which is a shame asfadein11
- I always loved driving and never had an issue, I was over confident if anything. I feel your pain, it feels like total fear when it comes on. Bizarre.fadein11
- Not to mention the slight embarrassment / shame for not being able to do it.fadein11
- making another post on the thread. thanks guys!HijoDMaite
- @fade - vertigo is 'exactly' it, as far as I can understand, at least where 'er indoors is concerned. Tight lanes and high roads and she just freaks out :(Nairn
- I felt it once whilst skiiing - only time I'd gone out after a joint, and I just totally couldn't do it. So odd, that flavour of fear.Nairn
- Coming off drugs caused this case of anxiety? ha ha, or perhaps thats frying your brain with drugs caused it?shapesalad
- @nairn, yep, I think it is mainly that. But it happens once and then it's also preemptive anxiety, and that cycle is so hard to break. It's like multiplying thefadein11
- the original issue by 10, you think it may happen, so it does. Not pleasant at all. I did have a crash on a motorway when around 19, the obvious answer would befadein11
- it was that, but I drove for 20ish years after that with no issue. It's great to hear others who have experienced similar. Thanks.fadein11
- P.s. i meant freeway not highways in my orig comment, normal roads are rarely an issuefadein11
- 'frying yoru brain on drugs'? shouldn't you be in the Daily Mail comments section, shapesalad?Nairn
- Whatever, taking illegal drugs, with questionable production, and inconclusive research into the effects of it all, is for idiots who wish to risk brain damageshapesalad
- CBD's not illegal, is an extract from a plant that's been used by humans longer than alcohol and your precious tea and does not cause 'brain damage'*Nairn
- * that said, high THC (/low CBD) strains of skunk used heavily by adolescent growing brains hyas been shown to cause psychosis.Nairn
- Try again, Male Daily.Nairn
it's pretty good for taking the edge off, also helps you focus and reduces anxiety.
accidentally took it with adderral (cbd night before) and the adderall was amplified, lasted all day as opposed to 4 hours and none of the adderal fog brain that is usually associated with it. But read afterwards that it's probably not a wise thing to do.
Also 5mg CBD and 5mg THC in edible form make sexy time for the wife and I insane, highly recommend it ;)
I can't speak for the oils or using it for anxiety, but I use the cream on my back. I have a piece of shit back that goes out just by moving wrong. CBD cream has been really effective with pain management;
for me it's always depended on how much other weed related stuff has been consumed. if you don't smoke CBD is great. if you do you may not notice it as much.
I may try this too, I too have lots of anxiety.
They sell this at my local canabis store (its now legal in Canada!)
CBD oil - 25ml
CBD 9,5 - 11mg/ml
Is it good?
i find it peculiar how we find ourselves becoming more anxious and working so steadily to alleviate that stress. it's quite obvious why we are anxious. financial instability surrounds us, pollution, climate change, corrupt governments, social media, shortened attention spans, less nutritious food, greater economic discrepancy... people who believe in a flat earth are on jury duty for people that are doing drugs that are legal in other states. people so gluttonous they become disabled and subsidized by their own government. nothing makes sense. it sucks, we're fucked, and we're supposed to act like everything is okay. valium anyone? xanax? bueller? bueller?
- How is it peculiar? You just explained it.ben_
- in the '20s and '30s, people practically drank themselves to death for similar reasonsmonospaced
- the peculiarity comes from our behaviour constantly avoiding these stresses invading our bubbles pushing us to substance reliefimbecile
Been using for the last 5 months... Total game changer for me!
Coupled with meditation and working out, i'm ALMOST anxiety free. I'm using 12% and i take about 4 drops in the morning and 4 before bed. My misses even nicks it at bed time as she says it knocks her out bigtime.
I don't care what the naysayers say, i know it's made a major difference for me.
- This gets me excited, combined with what others have told me. :) You take it at night and morning? What was the most noticeable impact you found on your day?mg33
- What specifically do you take, btw?mg33
- Especially during the day... do you feel energized? less distracted? More focused? Less agitated? Would love to hear more of your experience with it.mg33
- So i find that my anxiety still comes but for me almost like been on a bus and just passing bus stop 'anxiety'... It's comes and goes super fast. i don't findnecromation
- myself fixated on the thoughts. my anxiety usual sits on my shoulders, so it helps ease this tension allows me to enjoy my days. i'm using...necromation
- Your shoulders... Man, I store all stress in my shoulders and upper back. When I get massages, not once has a therapist not remarked about my physical tension.mg33
- I hear you bro! it all goes straight there for me and used to almost bring me to tears. It was exhausting... Changing a lot of my lifestyle and seeking help hasnecromation
- help bigtime! i had to look at all the factors and create a plan that worked for me... CBD has become a key element in that plannecromation
- Good stuff
My general issues in life aren't any different from most people who are busy with career, parenthood, commuting, trying to make time for yourself amongst the house cleaning, chores, getting ready for the next day, and trying to enjoy life.
We do quarterly training for different things at work and this time around we took a class about managing stress. A lot of the stuff in there was a massive wake up call to me even as I previously casually joked about anxiety and stress. Since doing that this past weekend I decided to start getting up at 5:45am and working out before work), because my office moved and I don't have a daytime gym anymore, and I can't fit that into every evening. So, feel good about doing that.
My two biggest issues in life are that I'm a bit controlling, and I don't like change. As far as being controlling, it's less about ME controlling all situations, and more about perhaps too great of expectations of others around me. Like, getting my 4 1/2 year old daughter to perfectly do her morning routine so we can leave on time. I have a problem with being patient and expecting things to be perfect or completed easily. All of that boils up to increased anxiety and tension that i wish I could shake.
The worst of it is that all this stuff and stress makes my skin break out a bit, which at 41 absolutely sucks (but makes people think I"m much younger, so there's an upside to acne. LOL) and I've had to figure out what impacts that beyond cutting out coffee/caffeine, whey protein, and dairy. Coffee/caffeine is only a recent discovery to cut out, because they're an awful contributor to stress and cortisol.
I realized recently that I'd stopped taking an adrenal supplement several months ago, and remembered that the entirety of taking that supplement I had clear skin. Got back on a new supplement, and started taking some other anti-stress stuff like a Reishi and other mushroom supplement, and some pills from Transparent Labs before bed that have magnesium, zinc, and oyster meat and help get better sleep and lower anxiety.
I also started taking 3mg melatonin this week at 10pm to help me be ready for bed around 10:30. I typically stay up till midnight, but I've felt good going to bed earlier, espeically to get up around 5:45 and exercise.
Anyhow... after my stepmom told me about my dad using CBD oil, and my barber telling me it would help sleep tremendously. Started reading more and I'm highly interested in getting some to see how it might affect my overall mood, peace of mind, attitude around my kids, etc.
- "As far as being controlling, it's less about ME controlling all situations, and more about perhaps too great of expectations of others around me."imbecile
- that made me feel better, thank you for sharing. sincerely.imbecile
- You're welcome. Do you relate to that at all?mg33
- little too muchimbecile
- Big thing is parenthood. my daughter is incredibly smart and was capable of a lot more than average kids even at 2 years old.mg33
- and her doing things like changing clothes, changing diaper, brushing teeth, being nice, she was doing all of this at 3.mg33
- Now at 4 1/2 with even more free will building in her, she often refuses, throws a fit, needs help, etc. and it all adds up to more time in the morning, night,mg33
- and my tension in those moments goes through the roof because I'm like "you were doing this at 3 WHY NOT NOW!??" LOLmg33
- as i'm not a parent, i hold this standard to those around me. I see myself as an idiot always capable of learning more but...imbecile
- so many people are content being misinformed, that the trajectory of civilization has me on edge. "I'm an idiot and i sort this out, wtf is your problem?"imbecile
- that's how i feel most days. :/ thank you again for sharingimbecile
- You're welcome. At home with my wife I often think "I'm 10x lazier than you and somehow I can rinse my dishes and not leave them all over the counter..."mg33
- I have similar thoughts regarding most people in public, so much so that if i see someone respectable or acting selflessly kind, i tell them i appreciate it.imbecile
The work training we did, it was an online course but I took substantial notes because all of this was really hitting home to me.
Types of Stress
- Acute Stress - least harmful, short term, stress leading up to a one-time event or task, may feel irritable or anxious, stomach aches, sweaty palms, chest pains, shortness of breath, rush of adrenaline like about to ride a roller coaster. once the stressful situation is over, symptoms go away.
- Episodic Stress - perpetual stress, more regular, even daily. people who suffer may be disorganized, in a rush, or worried about something, even if it’s unimportant. this stress over years will have an impact on health.
- Chronic Stress - worst kind. long term stress. not properly managing episodic stress, constantly overwhelmed or anxious, have a hard time relaxing. can affect all parts of your life, up to a mental or physical breakdown.
Effects of Stress.
- becoming easily agitated, moody, overwhelmed, having difficulty relaxing and quieting mind, low self esteem, or feeling depressed, and, avoiding others.
Physical - low energy, headaches, upset stomach, aches, pains, tense muscles, chest pain, rapid heart beat, etc. nervousness
cognitive - constantly worrying, racing thoughts, forgetfulness, disorganization, inability to focus, poor judgement, pessimism.
behavioral - procrastination, increased use of alcohol, nervous behavior
- I definitely have a consistent spread of acute and episodic.mg33
- I'd even say that some of it veers into chronic because I don't control acute or episodic well. I have trouble relaxing. I feel like there's always somethingmg33
- I could be or need to be doing.mg33
I've had good results with 200mg CBD gummies about an hour before bed time. Important to note that these don't provide good results for me if mixed with alcohol. But I sleep soundly through the night which in turn makes me feel more ready to deal with whatever is thrown at me the next day.
And as for driving anxiety, I think I've experienced it but it's mostly after a shit night of sleep and I'm frayed in general. Now I just stay out of the fast lane and try to not to feel the pressure of other drivers. My commute is all highways, and people are fucking nuts especially in the evening commute.
I will consider the CBD oil guys. I will consider anything at this point. And no SeaSea I do not believe in the drugs. Although the mild dose of Celexa did help for a bit I feel it just masked my symptoms. Of course, they came back. I really do feel I have to battle this psychologically. This fear begins in my brain and just manifests itself physically. I've never been in an accident in my life, I have no reason to fear the road or a cliff. I have also noticed that I have a fear of heights now too. I think it's associated. I mean I used to do the craziest shit when I was younger and never experienced fear!
Next week on the 17th I will have 1 year 100% sober. No weed and no booze. Of course, I'm stoked on this and it's done a lot of good but tbh It hasn't done shit for my driving panic. :-( I still smoke cigs like a champ and over caffeinate (mainly on weekends). I sleep well so that's not an issue. But I am overweight so I feel that maybe my circulatory system is not working as well as it should be so this only worsens my anxiety. exercise, quitting smoking, no caffeine, lose weight could be the answer alone. Ugh...
I've read some stuff online too about this specific fear of driving and many researchers say you have to, like JayLarson said, create some kind of mantra, just talk to yourself and continue to push the limits of what you think you can do until finally, you have desensitized your brain to the fear. This is a lot easier said than done.
So @fadein11 and @letterhead glad to hear I'm not alone with this here on QBN! If you guys want to reach out hit me up on Gmail at my name javierarmstrong or find me on FB and we can chat. Maybe we can exchange ideas on how to cope with this.
And @sea_sea I'll dm you I can't believe you also had this. Maybe you can help find the right oil to take. Oooh! maybe I can smoke it! lol
I hope I don't have to walk into a pot shop for it. The temptation will be strong since weed is my #1 weakness.
- I don't have the same fear of driving, but I've gotten a bit of vertigo as I've gotten older and can relate to how that feels.mg33
- In Maui back in 2014 we drove up Mt. Haleakalā to see the sun rise; drove up in the dark, switchbacks, all darkness.mg33
- Once we saw the sun come up I wanted to drive a little higher, like maybe 300 yards to another parking lot to see the observatory. Holy F... it's the closest tomg33
- a panic attack that I've ever had. Couldn't take my foot off the brake or hands off the wheel, breathing fast, felt faint.mg33
- it can be a problem as a passenger too. I have to not think about the death cliff. conversation helps.HijoDMaite
- in every direction you're looking above clouds and down the mountain, like you could just slip off and into the clouds.mg33
- Took me 10 minutes to calm down, my wife sitting there just massaging my shoulders and trying to get me to relax.mg33
- I even asked a stranger if she'd be able to drive our car down, because i sure as hell wasn't going to let my wife do it.mg33
- But somehow I got the courage to take the drive, that woman followed with her husband in case I freaked out, got in a low gear, and was all good.mg33
- FUCK mg33HijoDMaite
- Here in San Diego there is a Bridge called the Coronado Bridge which is probably going to be my final mountain to climb. It's gnarly.HijoDMaite
- it was the fact we drove up in the dark, not seeing how high we were getting and the steep cliffs to our sides.mg33
- had a couple moments like this in iceland in 2011, and sometimes snowboarding, although having sinus surgery helped that, maybe helped my equilibrium.mg33
- oops! here: https://i.imgur.com/…HijoDMaite
- High bridges suck for me too.mg33
- we only have one high bridge in Chicago - http://web.benesch.c…mg33
- That SD bridge. I can't stand those either. The narrow roadway, low height of the sides.mg33
modern day snake oil
- I'm sure it helps in certain situations, but people have taken it too far saying it cures everything.dbloc
- snake oil is useless, the entourage effects of thc and hemp are known if not well documentedimbecile
- thc *and cbd in hempimbecile
- The brainwash Apple Fanboys are obviously offended by your comments.utopian
But never forget that going to the source of the anxiety is a good plan too. Not just applying a BandAid over it. And thats the hardest part to work on...
If I hit you on the head with a hammer every seconds, if you put a helmet on it will hurt a little less but I will still hit you on the head with a hammer... Punching me in the face to make me stop is a better plan than the helmet in the long term.
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@ HIJO and anyone else suffering from anxiety. I hear you.
My anxiety came on in 2004 after going through some extreme emotional trauma. I was driving alone, long distance in the night and bam out of nowhere I felt I was going to pass out, sweaty palms, dizzy, heart palpitations, had to pull over. I realized I had pushed myself to the edge by going days without eating properly and on a caffeine high. Was going through some major life changes and thought I had it all handled. After that, I was terrified of driving alone on the freeway. I would get a feeling of "what happens if I pass out all alone" it was debilitating and made no sense.
I went to the Dr and they gave me Paxil. at that moment I thought I'll take anything. I did and it was horrible. It basically numbs you and I had no emotions. Didn't care about anything. I got off it after a month against what the Dr recommended.
I went on to look for natural alternatives dove deep into the cause, started to recognize the symptoms. Lack of sleep really screws you up. So managing that helps a lot imo.
I also realized I had to take control of the fear and my mind. Fresh air, taking the moment to breathe deeply and nice music helped. Mantra work like Jay suggested also helped me, it was like changing the channel in my head. I took anything that would help my nerves. I did yoga, I stretched and breathed deeply. I wish CBD was around back then.
CBD helps take the edge off. In situations that once would make me cringe, now I can get through them and not flinch. You just have to remember to take it lol. About to go into that meeting? take it. About to get on the road? take it.
It took a few times to figure out what dose worked for me. Start low dose. I didn't get any fancy brand I just experimented with what was available and I could afford. Ultimately it should be the purest form aka Full Spectrum. But I didn't take that because it's pricey.
Won't lie I did a lot of natural remedies and mental exercises because that's what helped me.
Also when driving I would have to call someone and sometimes chat the whole way, at that point I realized it was in my head most of the time and learning to change the channel was key. Lucky for me I had people who answered their phone.
That said, it's also your nerves, our line of work the pace we live in, reality is we still have to show up to work, so the CBD really does help. Call me a hippie but diffusing essential oils helps nerves as well. Found a great company with high-quality oils without the BS of do terra pyramid scheme sht in case anyone is interested, (your wife or gf's might be)
@hijo, you go to TJ right? Get some "7 Azares" drops at the botica. Take 10 to 20 drops straight on the tongue so it absorbs quickly. That has been heaven sent for me as well. I stopped taking cbd and now just manage with 7 Azares. I recently put all that to the test and I'm still standing.
Move, breath deep, hydrate, SLEEP, pamper your nervous system, make time for YOU. It's manageable I promise. If I can get through it so can anyone else.
Sometimes it literally is choosing the better feeling thought one hour at a time. <3
The thing has been acquired. Testing will ensue.