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- NBQ00-1
Wtf?
- who is this person? why do we care what she says?inteliboy
- She's quoting official press releasesNBQ00
- so she has no idea how to interpret the results but speculates this is not a vaccine? lolgrafician
- If I have no symptoms from a virus, does it matter if I have the virus?akiersky
- ... assuming I don't transmit it to others.akiersky
- Kim used to be good before going into that abyss of a rabbit hole she went into last yearGuyFawkes
- utopian0
"We're rounding the turn!"
- Yep... and American’s don’t know how to use round-aboutsbulletfactory
- ********8
Hayoth: "Never seen so many grown ass men freaked out by 98.9% survival rate. "
Also Hayoth: "A COMPLETELY DEAD AND LONG FORGOTTEN ECONOMIC SYSTEM CALLED COMMUNISM WILL KILL US ALL! BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE!"
- Where did the village idiot's post go?utopian
- Hayoth has always just been a half-hearted side project. He only shows up to make the most generic of “offensive” troll posts then vanishes for weeksscarabin
- @utop, in the blog thread for some reasonfadein11
- Triggered by the truth. Qbn health NazisHayoth
- Hayoth you dumb fuck********
- Do you know it's possible ignore people?jagara
- Lol hayoth shows up to confirm********
- utopian1
Nearly 200,000 cases confirmed as U.S. shatters single day case record.
Actual COVID-19 Cases Could Be 6 Times Greater Than Official Figures
The true number of COVID-19 infections is probably much higher than what's being reported in many high-income nations around the world.
A newly modelled estimate from the United States, Australia, Canada, South Korea and 11 countries in Europe suggests official figures could be struggling to capture the full scale of the outbreak.
- did I said 10x times at the start of the pandemic?grafician
- instrmntl0
Mazel!
- Secret plans helped Brooklyn synagogue pull off massive, maskles
https://nypost.com/2…instrmntl - FUCK THESE PEOPLE********
- This is such bullshit. A fucking loser wedding********
- Women don’t go to these weddings?Gnash
- "Women sat in the balcony behind a barricade."whatthefunk
- Ignorance is blissPhanLo
- ignorant fuckwitsutopian
- funny hatpango
- god's chosen ones, they just want to be chosen faster I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯_niko
- they have babies like rabbits.inteliboy
- o_Opango
- wow, guys, it's starting to get a bit racist here.pango
- oh nvm. its just the usual people.pango
- Imagine making such comments in the Muslims thread. You guys are hypocrites. That said yes they’re fucktwits.NBQ00
- i'd make the same comments i make here in Muslim thread. *thumbs up.pango
- Great way to get respect from your fellow city inhabitants.calculator
- All these weddings are ridiculous, super spreader events. Long Island has been no better unfortunately.instrmntl
- Fuck that pango, These guys are the very definition of intolerant. Fuck them._niko
- Toxic us-vs-them mentality.mort_
- Love the hats, tho********
- This whole "jews spread disease" thing feels awfully familiar...monNom
- I don’t even get upset about the maskless anymore. They had their warnings. It’s just natural selection from here on outscarabin
- Monnom more like idiots spread the disease, these ones just happen to be Jewish._niko
- And even then, an extreme version of Judaism_niko
- Judaism is not a race.cannonball1978
- Secret plans helped Brooklyn synagogue pull off massive, maskles
- ********3
- jonny_quest_lives0
Unfortunate...
"It is November. This is the darkest month of the year and the darkness will be with us for a while now, and unfortunately it also seems like we are moving towards darker times when it comes to the spread of infection in parts of the world, in Europe and here in Sweden.
All indications are now going in the wrong direction.
The infection is spreading fast, and in the past week the number of people being treated for Covid-19 in intensive care has more than doubled. So far, the healthcare sector is managing the pressure, but staff in the sector have been overworked since spring, and now they risk standing on the front line for a long time to come."
-Prime Minister Stefan Löfven
- Also known as mr potatoeArchitectofFate
- Also doubled means from 150 to 300...ArchitectofFate
- ^ here (tiny country of <3m with 150k/d testing capacity) had the 'highest rate per population in the world' 6 weeks ago - yet didn't fill ICUskingsteven
- we really need some sort of severity scale that takes in to consideration testing/ population/ geographical area/ healthcare resources.kingsteven
- well the 150 to 300 doubling description by "architectoffate" wasn't accurate... Friday's Sweden recorded 6,000 new covid cases on friday alonejonny_quest_lives
- ********8
A single $1200 stimulus check, massive unemployment over 8 months.
How are people staying alive?
I don't understand.
- One of the things that sucks is that businesses are shut down in the markets in which people can least afford to not be working (SF, NY, LA, etc)MondoMorphic
- How are people paying rent? I don't get it********
- There's been a trickle down NB. Big wins for everybodyPhanLo
- I've been burning through any and all savings I'd had.colin_s
- Wear your masks and shut up********
- In a strange twist of 2020 fate, everyone won the lottery, picked an accumilator on the dogs and horses, inherited millions, and struck oil in their garden.face_melter
- For real I thought 40% of the country was one medical bill away from homelessness. What happened?********
- nb the extra $600 unemployment saved my ass but ran out for me with this month's rent.colin_s
- I too am surviving just from a few scraps. It’s pretty dire, but I’m good at getting by on nothinghardhat
- Unemployment insurance still exists AFAIKyuekit
- I don't think the severity has been widely covered; The current White House is def. hiding any stat it thinks will make them look bad...evilpeacock
- They added a $600 weekly benefit on top of whatever your state offers for a while.yuekit
- The unemployment $600 add-on (and the later $300 3-week one) have definitely propped things up, more than the $1200. But I'm still losing savings for bills.evilpeacock
- I see a huge divide in online news and perception regarding "everything is fine" vs "I'm about to lose everything". Not sure what the real numbers are.evilpeacock
- Yeah I think you're right...the media doesn't convey the reality of what people are going through.yuekit
- We can't just start showing live footage from medical front lines (HIPPA rules); At best it's been morgue freezer trucks or mass burials shot from drones.evilpeacock
- Its not like there is no safety net...there is unemployment and also programs such as food stamps. But the cost of living is so high for a lot of people in USAyuekit
- I have family who are front line medical; My reduction in steady mograph/design work means jack to the folks dealing with intubation, etc.evilpeacock
- that it can be a disaster if your income suddenly cuts off even with all these measures.yuekit
- UI is helping and my state (WA) has good resources; But even with the CARES extension it'll run out by EOY.evilpeacock
- Deathboy sent his socialist welfare handout back to the government. He's a legendary freedumb fighter.utopian
- The local paper had a list of all the restaurants that have gone bankrupt (we are at 10% cap), it's sad and terrifying.formed
- The dominos, just like the subprime, starts at the bottom, but it'll hit the banks and WS soon enough. The day of (financial) reckoning isn't far.formed
- The wealthy will swoop in and buy it all up for pennies. Home Depot, Walmart, large restaurant chains, etc., will be all that survives.formed
- I haven't worked since May. Ive been extremely lucky, My wife works in healthcare, we had just refinanced our house.fooler
- Stimulus checks helped a little, unemployment helped a little more. Im homeschooling 2 kids so working isnt even an option right now.fooler
- I didn’t lose my job and if I did I don’t qualify for any assistance so it was unclear how others were surviving. I forgot about regular unemployment insurance.********
- Not driving, no gas, no clothes allowance, no eating out, no happy hours all helped save too.fooler
- Wifey lost her job in june, had 4 months savings, shit is dwindling. About to liquidate some assets. Nobody gives a fuck about us on the hill.BonSeff
- Stonksscarabin
- Yeah. If my wife would lose her job we’d be f’ed and living off our 401ks which would fuck us even more in the long run and in taxes.fooler
- My wife works at a non-profit that serves a local school district; The entire lockdown she's been *busy* getting food/bandwidith to all the needy families.evilpeacock
- I run my own business and qualified for a PPP loan, most of which should be forgivable. I can't work full-time with two kids at home right now.nocomply
- Without that loan, it'd be looking a lot more dire. But even with it, I worry about how we'll make it through 2021.nocomply
- hot moms signing up for their own onlyfans accounts?microkorg
- 33 notes, no one said bootstraps? son, i am disappoint. so hot right now.imbecile
- I make my own avocado toastscarabin
- Coca-Cola helps a lot, at least for me********
- I am working 12 hours a week. My wife is working 12 hours a day. We are VERY lucky. Not sure what will happen in Jan when my bosses PPP loan is all done.lemmy_k
- maquito0
Daily infection record today in Uruguay: 136. Needless to say, it is a figure to take into perspective, and I understand that it will not sound alarming to anyone, but the fact is that the cases have gone up from 7, to 20, then to 60, then to 80, 1 week ago we hit 100, and there seems to be a clear trend to keep climbing. Health authorities said today that any vaccine would take at least to late Q1 2021. I just hope that if we keep adding 20+ more infections every two weeks, our small and fragile health system will still hold up till march/april w/o leaving anyone behind.
- By “take into perspective”, I think it’s fair to share that in Uruguay, there are less than 900 ICU beds.maquito
- If we kept adding +100 per day, by mid Dec., we could probably have +4000 infections, and probably the “no beds available” mark.maquito
- Not every case is going to need an ICU bed. If only 4% of need beds then cases could potentially get to 22,500 before there is a crisis.eryx
- Hopefully you see the trend level out or drop and it never gets near that many active cases.eryx
- That 4% would give us - in case the progression continues-, around 9 months. I hope the curve decreases, and that the vaccine appears sooner. Tks eryx.maquito
- Such a small difference, hard to say if it's an actual increase or just testing different set of peopleyuekit
- BusterBoy5
My home state, Victoria, has just recorded its 24th consecutive day of zero new infections...and we have one active case in the entire state. Melbourne has just today removed regulation requiring the mandatory wearing of masks outdoors.
It can be done. Fucken hard, but it's possible. Took 112 days of a very hard lockdown to do it though.
- This is awesome. And at the same time it pisses me off. Holiday season in my country is by large the reason why we continue to spike in infections day after daymaquito
- Fucking politics!maquito
- UY’s gvmt has given zero warnings since we reopened back in August. Capitalist morans. We were almost there. Almost! Pigs won.maquito
- I think there needs to be tough action in the very beginning...once it has spread everywhere like in US and Europe you're pretty much fuckedyuekit
- It got out of control here in June/July. 700-800 cases per day in our second wave. We got it under control...but you need buy in from everyone.BusterBoy
- True but 700-800 in all of Australia is still almost nothing compared to what you're seeing in other parts of the worldyuekit
- Compare Australia with individual US states. 27,000 cases total vs. around a million each in Florida and Texas which are roughly the same population.yuekit
- Was 700-800 in Melbourne...not the entire country. And had the potential to spiral out of control. But it didn’t because we fucken listened.BusterBoy
- Instead of a hard lockdown everywhere else just pisses about with half assed attempts which just means it will go on and on and on and onmicrokorg
- Coca-Cola helps a lot, at least for me********
- wrong post********
- doggydoggdog0
A lot of people are getting tested and then gonna go mask-less for Thanksgiving.
- yuekit0
Here is pretty good evidence that masks do in fact work...flu cases down 70% in Thailand compared to last year.
COVID is pretty much wiped out here so this is a bonus effect of everyone wearing masks
- Is it a surprise to anyone though that flu is down with everyone wearing masks and anti-bacterial washing hands regularly? :)microkorg
- https://www.qbn.com/…palimpsest
- Not a surprise, but some people are still saying masks don't workyuekit
- It's hard to accurately test something like that so I'm more convinced by large scale effect like thisyuekit
- Flu is almost extinct in the US, but not Covid.
https://i.imgur.com/…
What gives? Surely the masks are not selective...drgs - Maybe COVID is just much easier to catch because less immunity?yuekit
- it's well known pandemics 'replace' seasonal illnesses. i don't think it proves anything about masks - although, feckin wear a mask!kingsteven
- So the masks, lockdown etc do help and the decline in flu cases could be an indicator of this, but it's still not enough to stop COVID from spreading.yuekit
- while i think they're effective, they're maybe not that effective - read a thing about cloth masks being shite because of moisture build up a few weeks ago thatkingsteven
- Maybe it's because we can't get rid of something that doesn't exist. This only proves that Covid is a hoax (if we're going down that road).palimpsest
- has me contemplating going back to the disposable surgical kind. i could imagine that affecting observations on mask effectiveness in europe vs asiakingsteven
- palimpsest - shut the fuck up, you moron cuck********
- OK, chief.palimpsest
- You're a fucknut moron if you think masks don't help curb the spread.monospaced
- There's always that one guy in the comments section, lolMaaku
- drgs1
Norwegian study comparing Norway vs Sweden
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/…
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/…Tl;dr: Old people die at a constant rate, but external events like heatwaves and influenzas or lack of thereof may speed up or delay their death. 2018-2019 and 2019-2020 had mild influenza seasons and lower than usual mortality in Sweden, so you have a surplus of old people who "outstayed their welcome", so when the Corona hits you have excess mortality.
Possibly."Our study shows that although Covid-19 associated mortality rate was almost 15-fold higher in Sweden than in Norway during the epidemic, all-cause mortality was not higher in Sweden compared with three of the four preceding years. An increase in all-cause mortality was only observed in comparison to the immediately preceding period (2018/19), because mortality was lower than in the previous years. The excess mortality was confined to individuals older than 70 years. In contrast, mortality rates were lower than expected for all ages in Norway and individuals younger than 70 years in Sweden.
At the beginning of the Covid-19 epidemic, extensive social measures were introduced in Norway in the form of restrictions and prohibitions to limit the spread of Covid-19 (13–19), while the public health authorities in Sweden chose a much less intrusive strategy (20–25). The Swedish strategy against Covid-19 has therefore received intense international attention and criticism (9), notably because reported mortality rates in Sweden have been higher than in comparable countries such as Norway. In Sweden, however, mortality was lower than expected in the months preceding the epidemic. This finding may suggest mortality displacement.
Mortality displacement (37) entails temporarily increased mortality (called excess mortality) in a population as a result of external events, such as heat waves (38), or epidemics like influenza (39) or Covid-19. The observed temporary excess mortality likely arises because people in vulnerable groups die weeks or months earlier than they would otherwise, due to the timing and severity of the unusual external event. The excess mortality is therefore preceded or followed by periods of lower than expected mortality. The period preceding the excess mortality in Sweden during the Covid-19 epidemic, characterised by lower mortality than usual, might be due, at least partly, to a mild influenza season during the winter of 2019-20 (40). Further, after the Covid-19 epidemic, we might see a decline in morbidity and mortality below normal levels in Sweden, as the oldest and frailest have already died."
- i think excess mortality will be down everywhere this year, YLL (years of life lost) could be way down on previous years. i know locally any deathkingsteven
- in care homes has covid on the certificate if there are any respiratory symptoms, folks with COPD with multiple negative swabs -numbers are massively inflated.kingsteven
- We should have reduced mortality 2-3 years ahead for suredrgs
- ********9
April 2020:
Bros, it's just old and frail people dying don't worry so much.November 2020:
Now that all our grandparents are dead, we're making great progress!^ Fuck this attitude. We're not making great progress, we're waiting for a vaccine to save us. Deaths per case ratio has gone down because a lot of our most vulnerable people are in the ground (or more likely stacked in a truck behind the hospital.)
Over 10,000 people died of covid LAST WEEK in the states. Assuming rates stay about the same, we'll have more covid deaths in one month than the flu kills on a bad year. And it's not even winter yet.
10,000 dead. Last week.
- I don't think what's happening in the US could be regarded as progress.PhanLo
- 10,000!SlashPeckham
- i hope someone takes it seriously, trump and his cronies are directly responsible for this. 100%.renderedred
- https://twitter.com/…********
- mate, we're just out of a 5 week lockdown, and in to another 2 week lockdown on monday - first vaccines being rolled out in a few weeks.kingsteven
- you had an election in a pandemic where your president encouraged people to physically votekingsteven
- what's an election? boris is doing a brexit in the middle of a pandemic :)renderedred
- no vaccines will be rolling out in a few weeks, thoughmonospaced
- started to announce it in the last few days mono... first delivery in Scotland next week, england week afterkingsteven
- Sure. But none have been approved yet, that I'm aware of.monospaced
- But that's really cool!monospaced
- Aye, I think Pfizer are expecting approval by the end of this week, Oxford later this monthkingsteven
- It'll be old people getting the vaccine first but perfectly healthy people can be stuck down or die with it too. So these lockdowns are going tomicrokorg
- continue well into mid 2021. Firmly believe we should just be having a china-style hardcore lockdown for 5 weeks to rid us of this virus.microkorg
- Surely businesses closing for 5 weeks is a LOT better than fucking around for 1+ years.microkorg
- aye, deaths are 1 in 10k for under 50s and over 65's and shielded patients count for 20% of the population. Scotland are hoping for 1m vaccinated by end of Jan.kingsteven
- ... could be less deadly than the common cold in a matter of months.kingsteven
- ... or. y'know... just deaths of people who refused the vaccine followed by those who got it :D 2021!kingsteven
- Yep, the vast majority of businesses would do better to 100% lockdown for 5 weeks. But then you have like NYers demanding wine stores stay open ffs********
- lol, using NY as a bad example is comicalmonospaced
