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Reading the notes about how people are surviving is some harsh light of day.
Thanks everyone for sharing. Americans would do much better together if we were more honest and open with each other about our financial stresses.
- palimpsest4
Remember this guy got the Rona a few months back?
The old man made it out alive and is now back home enjoying his vacations in the boondocks.
- Good. Enjoy life.********
- At least have the decency of not saying anything.
https://i.imgur.com/…palimpsest - Sweet :) Good news!Gnash
- Is that Martín Sheen?********
- Llama Blood!palimpsest
- Thanks, Gnash!palimpsest
- Good. Enjoy life.
- whatthefunk3
- "without carrying that math to its conclusion"
You don't say!palimpsest - Anyone who claims this rate of death is acceptable is probably a morally corrupt and ethically void human without a soul worth redeeming.monospaced
- "Only 1%" is ok for diseases that are hard to contract. Covid-19 is so easy. If the entire world hadn't shut down, we'd be looking at around 70 Million dead.********
- ...which is greater than the total number of humans who die in a typical year of all causes.********
- We also do not yet know how COVID antibodies work. At a 1% death rate, what happens if you can get COVID three or four times?********
- Does the death rate increase or decrease for people the second time around? What about the third?********
- I don't know what rate of death can be considered acceptable. It's a shame we have resorted to counting lives to convince some.palimpsest
- If we can contract COVID-19 multiple times, and if the fatality rate holds at 1% or higher, mankind could be near extinct within a decade. It's just math.********
- But if it's that what it takes, the numbers are too damn high!palimpsest
- Of course, everything changes as that would play out, and we're obviously taking things very seriously (as societies.)********
- Be very grateful that armchair scientist morons on reddit don't set health policy or even influence it with their dumb "1%" posts.********
- We send boats & helicopters if there's hope of saving one life lost at sea.
Why should this be treated differently? It shouldn't.palimpsest - We're armed against C19 now, so I find it hard to entertain this could be apocalyptic.
The next one though? Imagine this thing had Ebola-like symptoms.Nairn - Actually, that's stupid. if it did have Ebola-like symptoms, every case, town, state, country, region would be locked down. C19 is more insidious.Nairn
- but imagine the next one had a delayed 10%+ death rate, over all ages.Nairn
- OP is spot on but @nb births? half the cases are < 25 y/o with very few deaths. > 65 y/o make up < 20% of the population and count for 90% of deaths...kingsteven
- killing the elderly, yes. eradicating man kind, no.kingsteven
- It's just the math on 1%, if we did nothing and let it blast through the population AND if the antibodies don't last AND if 1% held up after all the old people********
- Which yeah none of that is at all likely to come true. Just pointing out how 1% is still a big deal.********
- You may have noticed the world has completely changed to reduce the spread. There are few flights, no cruises, cities on rotating lockdown, tons of masks...********
- and yet we're at the point where we're disregarding the facts in order to explain 1% compound interest to folks who can't divide by 100?kingsteven
- its clear that countries that prepared + prioritised lives over the economy at an early stage have far less deaths and far less economic damage. it's ridiculouskingsteven
- to be in a situation where it's left to individuals who find 1% acceptable to curb the spread, it's not ridiculous to think we're lucky its only 1%kingsteven
- "without carrying that math to its conclusion"
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American covid deaths yesterday: 2,2160.85% of all US covid deaths happened yesterday! We're likely not even at the peak of the second wave yet.
Cases are rising. Deaths are rising. Be safe out there.
- Continuity2
So-called 'lockdown light' in Germany is being extended to at least the end of January (likely longer), with the only allowance made for Christmas/NY, where groups of max 10 people can gather in a home.
Daily cases barely dropped in the last month, more like simply levelled off.
Pfffft. This is going to be a brutal winter.
- same here, they are just changing the name from lockdown to another bollocks tier system. We are about to come out of a lockdown which wasn't one at all.fadein11
- Xmas is open as usual though, go kill your granny for some turkey and Only Fools and Horses.fadein11
- was reading about the third wave that started in Korea...looks like it's gonna take longer than 1 brutal winter.uan
- Korea again? God damn, this really is mental. And, in the meantime, nothing about life feels even remotely normal or chill anymore.Continuity
- It really is living in a constant heightened state of tension and anxiety about the future.Continuity
- Forget about the future and focus on the present till you get so bored that you find the seed of creativity...that's my method, works most of the time.uan
- Bummer of a winter but things could be worse. Stay healthy.********
- You can experience snow in the South, it barely snows here in Frankfurt. I will bake Christmas cookies. My life has changed.SimonFFM
- We're in municipal confinement, and I'm not expecting changes until summer. Doing relatively well til now, bought an smartphone + installed Whatsapp to parentsOBBTKN
- Are going to be some rare xmas, meet the family all years til now, but better distance for this and be all ok for next yearOBBTKN
- utopian2
We're rounding the corner...More than 205,000 new cases were reported Friday.
- Canada's had 360k cases total since this began.i_monk
- ^ losersGuyFawkes
- WE WIN!GuyFawkes
- Canada has 1/10th the population, very spread out. Canada should not be boasting. The situation there isn’t good now.********
- No vaccine production in Canada at all. Canada hopes to have 50% of citizens vaccinated by Sept 2021. Pretty bad for a supposed leader of the world.********
- Yeah. By percentages Canada is actually pretty pathetic in its response and how widespread it is. Definitely should not be boasting.monospaced
- Half the pop lives in 3 cities, hardly 'spread out', and given we don't have 1/10th the cases for 1/10th the pop, yeah, our approach is better than yours.i_monk
- And we can thank the conservatives, imitating American Republicans, for destroying our ability to produce vaccinesi_monk
- Lol ok, I agree Canada is doing better than the US. If that’s the standard Canada wants to go by... lol********
- We're doing *much* better, thanks.i_monk
- Also nowhere near half the population lives in three cities...? Even IF you count the metro areas (which are super sprawling, in some cases considered rural)********
- Also Canada was probably the last country on earth to get hit by this. They had the most time to prepare and the best understanding of how to prepare.********
- I’m just salty because I have a ton of family and friends in Canada and I can not believe how they fucked up their covid response.********
- Both Canada and the US had their first cases in January.i_monk
- I didn't say we're handling it like South Korea or anything, but our response is literally orders of magnitude better than yours.i_monk
- kingsteven9
Tracking the covid pandemic through yankee candle reviews on Amazon
- drgs1
Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has ‘Relatively No Effect on Deaths’ in U.S. Deleted After Publication
https://gellerreport.com/2020/11…
https://web.archive.org/web/2020…
"This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19."Similar to this Norwegian study:
https://www.qbn.com/reply/399450…
"All-cause mortality remained unaltered in Norway. In Sweden, the observed increase in all-cause mortality during Covid-19 was partly due to a lower than expected mortality preceding the epidemic and the observed excess mortality, was followed by a lower than expected mortality after the first Covid-19 wave."
At present (second wave) all-cause mortality (covid, heart diseases etc, everything combined) is indistinguishable from previous yearsIf this is true, I'm going to be furious
- Withdrawn by authors
https://www.jhunewsl…drgs - All-cause mortality:
https://public.table…drgs - Why so furious?********
- Furious with who? The Chinese?utopian
- I want my 8 months backdrgs
- Ah yes, here we go with everyones 20/20 vision in hindsight********
- i was surprised to read the advice given to healthcare here. any death with any symptom gets covid on the death cert regardless of negative testing.kingsteven
- We already knew this recategorization was happening. This is only news to some.MondoMorphic
- Yes, excess death will depend on many factors. Could be anywhere from 5% to 15%. Doesn’t seem like much at first but there are two huge considerations:********
- 1. Unprecedented action to flatten the curve has prevented a much higher death rate, and********
- Ummm. My friend is a doctor who treats Covid patients and she says that if you ask anyone of them this is very real and very deadly.monospaced
- 2. We don’t know how this will affect survivors over the course of their lives, but it looks like it could be very bad. Immediate death toll isn’t everything.********
- Try not to jump to conclusions and make up your mind absolutely on things like this. Side note: that report is sketchy AF and not peer reviewed in any way.********
- What about the increase in death after people go on respirators?monospaced
- drgs, you are such a whiney brattank02
- Have you guys noticed that the site being linked to is actually a student newspaper?yuekit
- I think people are seeing the name John Hopkins and running with it when in reality there's no actual study behind any of this in the sense of scientific study.yuekit
- Instead what it looks like happened is one of the teachers at John Hopkins developed an interest in this topic and gave a webinar explaining her theories.yuekit
- It was then written up (and then retracted) by the local student newspaper. Doesn't mean it's wrong but casts the whole thing is a slightly different light thanyuekit
- how it's being presented by people like Pamela Geller, like some serious peer-reviewed paper was censored because the government doesn't want you to know man!yuekit
- this shit again? fuck people are dumb.inteliboy
- Not saying corona doesn't exist, but leaning towards that its blown out of proportion, people who are dying would be dead within the next 5 years anywaydrgs
- NYC:
https://i.imgur.com/…
April-May were extreme, but what's happening at the moment?drgs - Fuck'em they were going to die in 5 to 10 years anyway.utopian
- The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh awaydrgs
- Out of proportion? ICUs full? Canceling surgeries and "non-urgent" consultation? Cancer cases not being diagnosed?dmay
- Withdrawn by authors
- utopian0
I just found out that my covidiot sister contracted Covid-19 from her husband two weeks ago, now her children are extremely sick. Meanwhile while sick...my selfish, ignorant sister actually went to work sick and spread Covid-19 to her co-workers and potentially her elder clients.
- Covidiots Everywhere!utopian
- Your sister is dumb as fuck. #TRUMP2024********
- ^lolGuyFawkes
- She still has not informed me that she has contracted the fake Wuhan flu. My other sister told me.utopian
- damn man, that sucks. tell her you know and ask if she thinks it's a hoax. also, what the fuck is wrong with people!capn_ron
- I'm assuming that she didn't want to tell me because she is embarrassed. She should be!utopian
- Your sister is a trumper? Gross.monospaced
- She likely doesn't have one of the very aggressive strains or she would have ended up in the hospital. Either way, long covid is a thing too. So sad.People suckcherub
- but did you go to thanksgiving though..?imbecile
- Sorry...but your sister is a selfish cunt.BusterBoy
- maquito1
@eryx Uruguay reached today —1 week after my previous post-, 208 new daily cases. It’s happening...
I wish I could post a more positive update next week, but watching the day-by-day increase of the past few days: 136, 178, 186, everything points that numbers may double, to say the least :(
- It would SUCK if we reached 500 cases by mid Dec., and the authorities decided to send us back to stage 1 for the Holidays.maquito
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Christmas is cancelled. Get used to the idea. Not so bad.
- maquito1
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- upvoting 4 NOFX... once posted them in the what are you listening to thread and got downvoted like no one's business... happy memories associated with that bandjonny_quest_lives
- ********0
The true spirit of xmas lives in our hearts and can never be extinguished. We may not see our families and friends this year but we can still find joy in the holiday by looking within.
- And by getting severely hammered.maquito
- If you want. I’m hardly drinking these days. It’s better.********
- Yeah, but: https://i.imgur.com/…maquito
- I’ll be drinking beer non-stop till march.maquito
- proud of my folks and siblings for being in total agreement to call it offkingsteven
- Smart folks. I wish everyone would.maquito
- Praise Jesus, praise Santa, they can never be defeatedyuekit
- Amen.palimpsest
- I'm sad my alcohol tolerance is pretty much gone... Gonna take some work to build it back up.pango
- Lotta downvotes********
- Lotsa cuntsmaquito
- palimpsest0
Luke 2: 8-14
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this [shall be] a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown.
- yuekit2
The thing about these coronavirus conspiracy theories is, I feel like if it was true I would probably support it.
The people running the world made a virus that doesn't actually kill anyone as an excuse to force you to stay inside watching TV for a year while they transform the economy to deal with climate change?
Read some of the stuff being presented as terrible in an article like this...people will continue to work remotely forever, half of all work will be automated, we will get a basic income...also the world is run by socialists.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopol…
But of course that's not what's happening, in reality millions of people will die before this is over and there's no guarantee any significant reforms will ever come to pass.
- i love a good conspiracy when it incites questioning. but you generally find folks will accept these covid theories because they must have an answer...kingsteven
- ie. folks that wont ask questions for fear of appearing weak while simultaneously fear being wrong. if you shut them down it just strengthens their beliefs...kingsteven
- I like this approach: https://www.qbn.com/…kingsteven
- Yeah I was talking specifically about this idea of "the Great Reset" that is getting repeated a lot by conspiracy theorists these days.yuekit
- If what they were talking about was real you could almost say it's a brilliant way of dealing with an impossible problem. But I don't think the people runningyuekit
- the world are that smart or have things under control as much as they imagine.yuekit
- aye, an old lad i meet while walking the dog was on about the great reset a few days ago. he believes covid is real, and deadly, and manufactured in a lab justkingsteven
- to get us to take the vaccine... then 2 minutes later "when you get to my age, when it's your time to go, it's your time to go" ... make up your mind Brian ffs.kingsteven
- Only plausible conspiracy I could buy into -- to suppress Hong Kong protestsdrgs
- I could almost buy it as China's revenge for the trade war. It almost worked out too perfectly for them, Trump is gone and India their biggest potential rivalyuekit
- in developing world is going to lose decades of progress. But like any conspiracy you can also find things that contradict this.yuekit
- drgs2
https://jamanetwork.com/journals….
"daily wear of eyeglasses is associated with less susceptibility to COVID-19 infection"Basically, wearing glasses is the same as wearing a face mask (eye and nose/throat are connected by the nasolacrimal apparatus), and if wearing glasses works against the covids then a face mask should too
Unless four-eyed people simply interact less with other people (than people without glasses, for whatever reasons)
Discuss
- It makes sense assuming droplets can get in your eyes (which I think is understood to be true.)********
- Could also be that glasses-wearers have different behavioral patterns. For example: people with contact lenses touch their eyes a lot.********
- This proves how repulsive glasses are, they create a barrier around you. Lasik has been training ground. Big-optics is using the virus to recover their market.palimpsest
- @pallimp: we really don’t need another troll here********
- Ok, chief!palimpsest
- yawn********
- @nb
I'm extending this as an olive branch:
https://www.qbn.com/…
It's what we do on QBN.This is the way.palimpsest
- It makes sense assuming droplets can get in your eyes (which I think is understood to be true.)
- Maaku0
Whether or not it was lab-made, what type of bans or sanctions is China going to get for this "mistake"?
- There will be zero repercussions against the hinese Communist Party. China owns the USA...the USA is their bitch.utopian
- Looks like they're going to let it slideMaaku
- There’s no body that punishes nations. What a weird concept. Trump mentions this as if it’s a thing. Do people really believe it? So weird.monospaced
- There are lots of economic punishments. WTO stuff, sanctions, no ability to transact in dollars/SWIFT, etc. Also UN 'peacekeepers' and NATO.monNom
- who can you punish? chinese people?renderedred
- If it came from a lab, you punish the lab, and then the country.Maaku
- good god, I agree with utopianIRNlun6
