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Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has ‘Relatively No Effect on Deaths’ in U.S. Deleted After Publication
https://gellerreport.com/2020/11…
https://web.archive.org/web/2020…
"This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19."Similar to this Norwegian study:
https://www.qbn.com/reply/399450…
"All-cause mortality remained unaltered in Norway. In Sweden, the observed increase in all-cause mortality during Covid-19 was partly due to a lower than expected mortality preceding the epidemic and the observed excess mortality, was followed by a lower than expected mortality after the first Covid-19 wave."
At present (second wave) all-cause mortality (covid, heart diseases etc, everything combined) is indistinguishable from previous yearsIf this is true, I'm going to be furious
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https://www.jhunewsl…drgs - All-cause mortality:
https://public.table…drgs - Why so furious?********
- Furious with who? The Chinese?utopian
- I want my 8 months backdrgs
- Ah yes, here we go with everyones 20/20 vision in hindsight********
- i was surprised to read the advice given to healthcare here. any death with any symptom gets covid on the death cert regardless of negative testing.kingsteven
- We already knew this recategorization was happening. This is only news to some.MondoMorphic
- Yes, excess death will depend on many factors. Could be anywhere from 5% to 15%. Doesn’t seem like much at first but there are two huge considerations:********
- 1. Unprecedented action to flatten the curve has prevented a much higher death rate, and********
- Ummm. My friend is a doctor who treats Covid patients and she says that if you ask anyone of them this is very real and very deadly.monospaced
- 2. We don’t know how this will affect survivors over the course of their lives, but it looks like it could be very bad. Immediate death toll isn’t everything.********
- Try not to jump to conclusions and make up your mind absolutely on things like this. Side note: that report is sketchy AF and not peer reviewed in any way.********
- What about the increase in death after people go on respirators?monospaced
- drgs, you are such a whiney brattank02
- Have you guys noticed that the site being linked to is actually a student newspaper?yuekit
- I think people are seeing the name John Hopkins and running with it when in reality there's no actual study behind any of this in the sense of scientific study.yuekit
- Instead what it looks like happened is one of the teachers at John Hopkins developed an interest in this topic and gave a webinar explaining her theories.yuekit
- It was then written up (and then retracted) by the local student newspaper. Doesn't mean it's wrong but casts the whole thing is a slightly different light thanyuekit
- how it's being presented by people like Pamela Geller, like some serious peer-reviewed paper was censored because the government doesn't want you to know man!yuekit
- this shit again? fuck people are dumb.inteliboy
- Not saying corona doesn't exist, but leaning towards that its blown out of proportion, people who are dying would be dead within the next 5 years anywaydrgs
- NYC:
https://i.imgur.com/…
April-May were extreme, but what's happening at the moment?drgs - Fuck'em they were going to die in 5 to 10 years anyway.utopian
- The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh awaydrgs
- Out of proportion? ICUs full? Canceling surgeries and "non-urgent" consultation? Cancer cases not being diagnosed?dmay
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