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- mekk-1
iPhone 12 looks good imo, I always preferred the iPhone 4/5/SE body. Just feels so much better in my hands than the slippery round stuff that came later.
Still not willing to pay 700 EUR+ for a brand's entry level phone. 500-600 EUR is my maximum budget I'm willing to spend every 4-5 years for a phone.
- Entry level are SE, XR and 11 they're still selling.
Everyone has a hardshell case on their iPhone now, the edge doesn't matter anymore as it's hidden, right?raf - i'll stick with my se, see no point in these bar a better camera and i have a camera alreadyhans_glib
- +1 @raf even though i agree with mekk as well, 5 series had the best form.
but i won't buy a new one till they bring back touch IDFixMiller - iPhone SE 2020 is the best iPhone. Touch ID, good size, fast af, great battery, great main camera.nb
- I too prefer the square edge. But get a $400 SE and in 3 or 4 years upgrade to the next SE with the square edges.nb
- I've never had a hard shell case, and never would.monospaced
- Entry level are SE, XR and 11 they're still selling.
- NBQ00-2
The iPhone 12 Pro could be interesting if it can rival DSLR Video Cam's such as Canon EOS R5 in quality. I know it's the lenses too but it would be interesting to see some comparisons.
- lol, that's like saying if you put a big engine in a Prius it'll perform like a Ferrari!formed
- Because Apple is saying "DSLR like quality" and that it can be used for professional productions.NBQ00
- have you not used a phone recently NBQ?fadein11
- 'like' is the operative word there. I look a bit 'like' Brad Pitt. ;)Morning_star
- well the fancy iphone 12 pro promo and PR sure says "look at me, we can shoot TENET with this phone".NBQ00
- I've just had a word with the ex wife Gwyneth and she says "that's bollox, it's just those apple cunts overreaching".Morning_star
- I’m.... TENET wasn’t shot on an EOS dslr camera hahahahahanb
- Lost a client. Their marketing team now produces iPhone content and noone on instagram cares. So, yes, competition. Depending on the job, iPhone is cheaper.SimonFFM
- Tenet was shot on Arriflex & Imax 65mm film. How do you get the canisters into the new iPhone?Morning_star
- 10 Bit video on an iphone 12 max. That is both frightening and awesome for video people.stoplying
- Nobody said TENET was shot on EOS. nb read my sarcastic post again ;)NBQ00
- isnt the iphone using AI for the photos with stranges artifacts in the depth of field shots, i hate it on my Xs. sometime it works most of the time not.api
- hope this improves over timeapi
- colin_s2
got a hard lesson in the continued forced obsolescence of apple products.
my iphone 6 finally stopped responding, at least to any charge or power cable, so i am sending to a friend to get worked on. however, at this point it can't update to new software and some apps don't even work with it so i figure i'll go for the SE (as it is, stacked up against the competition, the best deal on the market currently)
however, i plug the SE in to my macbook pro (~2013) and get a "you cannot use this iphone with this computer, you don't have permission."
fast forward six hours of various software updates and now half the creative programs i was using i no longer can (CS6, soundbooth, extensis)... but my phone will sync.
nightmare company. it was a long time coming, the need to upgrade things so i'm not totally upset, plus currently all my projects are analogue so i didn't lose any thing mid-way.
still a pain in the ass though and makes me want to just go back to windows XP, a flip phone and photoshop 5.5
- I know a guy who can hook you up, he's from the underground resistance, code named _bennn_niko
- How is going back to XP, PS 5.5 and a flip phone different from going back to OS 9, PS 5.5 and a flip phone?ESKEMA
- yep, apple are renowned for that shit. and fucking adobe come steaming in behind themhans_glib
- Man, that sucks! Hot tip: you don’t ever need to connect a phone to a computer. Most iPhone users probably don’t even own a computer.nb
- Is a failed battery after 6 years failed obsolescence? I don't think any other phone manufacturer does anything differently if this happens.monospaced
- @mono you missed the point. The 2013 macbook not working with a 2020 iphone is the obsolescence that could be considered a failure.nb
- I can still buy a battery for my old HTC Evo 4G for $5, but I don't need to. I just pulled it out and the battery still works. it's turning on now.imbecile
- Your Apple computer is too old for your new Apple phone is baked in intentionally. You're a fool or an Apple stock holding asshole if you say any different.imbecile
- Oh, I see. You can't plug over a cable because macOS isn't the newest. Got it.monospaced
- Will it not sync wirelessly?monospaced
- akiersky0
"Apple failed to market the iPhone 12 Pro to the average consumer, analysts say"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/14/…
If only there were some way to tell that it isn't for the average consumer....
- imbecile3
Who needs a "pro" phone? Did anyone really ever give up their DSLR or Red to shoot photos / video with a "pro" phone? UIs that 5mm lens with digital zoom sufficient? Do you buy a "pro" phone if you're a telemarketer or charge by the minute for calls? Under what circumstances will a "pro" phone do anything other than help you waste time?
- it's just marketingpango
- i refuse to believe it is that simple. i need to know who these professional power users are, pango. nay, i must know.imbecile
- I think some folks simply want "pro" end equipment wether they're consumers OR producers.
It's also Apple appealing to the "pro" market...ideaist - ...which they were said to be neglecting up until the release of the updated Mac Pro, XDR Display, etc. The "pro" iPad and iPhone appeal to those folks.ideaist
- I have 2 kids who are starting to like nice things and an aggressively underemployed wife, SOOO SE it is.
Lolz.
: )ideaist - Apple is just a full blown aspirational brand at this point... Most 3D/ AV creative is done on bespoke PC rigs...jonny_quest_lives
- Print designers are priced out of the "Mac Pro line and most agencies end up settling on the imac 27inch anywayjonny_quest_lives
- 2021 will be the year of "Amazon Renewed" Galaxy s20 at this pointjonny_quest_lives
- Youtubers and 'content creators'.
Prosumer doesn't look as good on the box.SteveJobs - Isn't it just a word? While it CAN be used in maybe some pro scenarios, it's not really pro photography gear.monospaced
- it implies something it's not. there is nothing pro about it. all marketing bs to make people forget slave labor builds these things for astronomical profits.imbecile
- It’s just a name. If anyone is mislead by the name it’s really their problem.monospaced
- Influencer who earn money by posting selfies. It's their profession (no judgement here) so they go iPhone pro.Longcopylover
- Maybe it means Probono...Chimp
- They even have pro AirPods, wtf does that even mean???futurefood
- ^ you look like a *professional* twat while wearing them.face_melter
- cherub0
I hear you, imbecile. But as a photographer, I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a minute. Just for fun.
There are two cases where having an extremely capable camera phone won't hurt you on a professional gig, and may even be preferable to a full DSLR setup. The first is common and happens all the time. The second is niche as fuck, and doesn't.
Case #1: You are doing event photography without press credentials and the venue rules state that *anything better than a camera phone isn't allowed.* The venue together with the artist has decided that a camera with a detachable lens is capable of real read:sellable pics/video but your smartcamera isn't. I have stuffed an entire DSLR camera down my pants before to sneak a camera that wasn't allowed into a show.
Case #2: You get all your camera gear, and DSLR stolen the day before a professional shoot. Simultaneously, you lose your mobile, or it is old/needs upgrading or whatever. This is a no brainer. I'd assure the client the pics won't suffer and roll with it. For $1,000 it solves the problem and you end up with a mobile. WIN
The sensor size is quite small, but the ability to shoot in Apple Pro RAW together with sensor shift image stabilization means those low light settings in nightclubs that used to produce shakey blurry POS pics will now be clear and vivid.
This isn't smoke and mirrors. For content producers this is perfect.
Disclaimer: I own exactly 2 apple products. Not a fanboy.
- as a friend say "all those broke college girls going onlyfans with these and becoming homeowners"grafician
- On the downside, the sensor is "about HALF the size of the samsung note 20 ultra" https://www.dpreview…cherub
- Typical venue rules: "Stubb’s standard house policy does not allow professional cameras, audio or video recording devices, or cameras with detachable lenses..."cherub
- Reads as desperation. You can buy a dslr body to replace the stolen gear from Best Buy. Subversive photos is justified theft.imbecile
- grafician1
yeah so, this is not innovation anymore, this is improvisation.
No more Jobs, no more Ive, the "original plan" is no more.
After this year it's uncharted waters with Apple.
Sure, they still have 200 billions in the war chest, but everything we've seen so far was already planned and executed, but from now on...
And you guys know I'm right.
- it'll be like the final seasons of game of thrones after the writers ran out of material from George RR Martin..._niko
- After this year? Steve died 10 years ago ffs. Apple is more successful than ever. Launching their own silicone too.monospaced
- innovation never sleepsutopian
- they need a new CDgrafician
- they have enough cash on hand to buy innovation... they aren't exactly in trouble. as far as being a necessary creative tool as in decades past...jonny_quest_lives
- that's an entirely different proposition... Unless they outright purchase Unreal Engine who has become their most potential problematic adversaryjonny_quest_lives
- according to Google "Apple now has $193.82 billion in cash on hand"jonny_quest_lives
- They go out and buy/acquire Unreal Engine and Red Camera they would have a strong foundation in Virtual Production and then could create a Pro Line of desktopsjonny_quest_lives
- specific to that market segment just to have the bragging rights/retain their Think different Ethosjonny_quest_lives
- nice trygrafician
- Atari didn’t make money by selling video games, they made money by creating Chucky Cheese for constant revenue.instrmntl
- In modern times that translates to app subscriptions and fees.instrmntl
- The real money isn’t in the hardware.instrmntl
- not saying it ever it was but a lot of the complaints about Apple no longer innovating seem to be from people in creative industries...jonny_quest_lives
- who hold on to those powerful memories of that sart up chime on their first "pro" machine... then u hit a certain age and a hammer is just a hammer...jonny_quest_lives
- and the only reason you fire up a mac is the font library you've acquired over the years because if you need to push pixels that can be done far cheaper on a PCjonny_quest_lives
- oof @ buying Unreal. Apple saddled themseles with garbage AMD gpu's that don't even have RT yet. Their current line of PC's are already obsolete for 3D work.face_melter
- holy fuck it's an endless echo chamber when it comes to Apple. Has been since the first Mac in the 80's.inteliboy
- theyre a service platform like google now. hardware is just the vehicle to maintain the ecosystemtrooperbill
- "they need a new CD" -to continue the analogy instead of that they released a "greatest hits" album and went on tour. As some have pointed out, creative typescherub
- are gonna feel personally attacked over this perceived abandoning of the "think different" ethos. That's ok. Remember when alternative music went mainstream? EWcherub
- I agree that I prefer the Jobs/Ives era when elegantly designed product breakthroughs were the norm.instrmntl
- were they though?monospaced
- no. people have always hated apple. always hated Steve Jobs. and always hated their new products.inteliboy
- Fuck apple, slow as shitmoldero
- No, nothing to do with "creative types" it's a general look - they need something new and big, a new market, or they will be like before Jobs second coming...grafician
- mg330
I have to say, having done the Apple phone subscription thing for the last 3 versions of the phone, it's a no-brainer to upgrade every year despite a lack of radical overhaul to the device.
How many of you do the same plan?
- No-brainer? Hmmm I just keep my phone for a long time and save money. They all work basically the same unless it's your primary camera.nb
- I absolutely hate getting a new phone, I avoid it as much as possible.nb
- Same here NB: what pain in the ass. Data transfer errors, apps not compatible, glitches, up-selling, new cords, different plans, etc...a waste of fucking time..utopian
- I know, right? Then when you do get it all set up, surprise surprise it does exactly the same things as the old one. New phones are just a boring waste of time.nb
- mg33, are you upgrading every year for "free" or are you paying for each device?monospaced
- For me, it takes 2.5 years to pay off a phone, so I can't really upgrade each year unless I trade in and pay each month still. Is that what you do?monospaced
- mono - you never actually pay off the loan, not in a year at least. So, they buy back the loan or close it out when the phone is sent back,mg33
- and the new phone starts up a new loan.mg33
- utopian - I've never run into a problem. Just backup to computer, and transfer to new one.mg33
- The ONLY part that sucks is having to reset Google Authenticator app for accessing my NAS with two-factor. It takes 10 minutes, but it's just annoying.mg33
- Figured.monospaced
- Are you going to lease a car until you die? Extremely wasteful and expensive choice to subscribe to a piece of hardware.imbecile
- kingsteven4
- To be fair, getting rid of that shit IS quite useful. Think of the amount of extra cables/adapters/head... that aren’t sitting in drawers.hardhat
- They still are total shits for their engineered obsolescence, but this is a good move. Should be $x less for phone + $x for the missing bits, should u want themhardhat
- The used iPhone market is huge. They have higher resale value than most.monospaced
- indeed, but its's just one example of inventing their own environmental credentials to inform consumer choice... when every environmental technologykingsteven
- standard focuses on the longevity and repairability of devices.kingsteven
- face_melter1
'...and after we drink the elixir we all fall asleep and wake up on the spaceship!'
'Wow! Living on Jupiter is gonna be so cool!'
- yuekit0
One thing I find really annoying is the way they handle iCloud photos. In theory it's a nice way to save all the photos and videos from your phone and I'd rather use Apple service for this than Google or some other site.
But for some reason they decided it can only be a syncing service rather than a true backup service, so if you delete something from your phone to free up space it gets deleted from iCloud too lol.
Supposedly they will solve this problem by replacing the photos on your phone with low res versions when you start to run out of space but they give the user zero control over this. Good example of where the hands off design philosophy fails and you should actually give user control over the details of how it works.
- Apple's services have always been absolute dogshit. The only thing they have changed in the last ten years is the name from MobileMe to iCloud.face_melter
- iOS DOES do the low res swap version to save space. But I agree with the whole sync issue.monospaced
- It does but you have no control over when this happens. Like right now I have only about 10GB left on my phone but Apple still doesn't optimize the space.yuekit
- Sorry to say but: https://www.cnbc.com…jmckinno
- robotinc0
I'm stoked to have a lidar scanner in my pocket.
- why? What will you use it for? I’m intrigued by this technologynb
- Mine went from 50gb to like 3gb optimizedmonospaced
- @nb I bought a house last year, and have been meaning to rough up a model in 3d to use to sort out some remodeling.robotinc
- with the new phone I can just scan the rooms. I've used lots of lidar data at my job, stoked its in the phonerobotinc
- Coolnb
- SteveJobs-2
Here's my Apple TV user experience with linked Home Computer movies and TV shows accessed from my Apple TV 4k after coming back to a show I watched last night on season 8 episode 5
Menu (to turn on) > Select (Home Computer) > Slide right (on remote touch pad) > TV Shows > Slide down and right (for specific show I'm selecting > Select > (Now on show main screen) Seasons > Slide right to desired season > Select > (Now on season main screen) Play Episode 5
Why on earth is there no way to just resume where I left off?
Also, once I finish an episode and credits finish rolling there's no automatic skip to the next episode and no 'Next' button on the controller (there is one from the keyboard when watching Apple TV on the mac by pressing command + >). So, I have to Menu out, and hope the button has cued the next show in the list or Slide down, Slide right, and Select the next episode.
Why? Please tell me I'm missing something here
- Why are you using it to stream from a home computer? All the stuff you want works if you stream from a service.monospaced
- Because I have some shows on my computer that aren't on Netflix. Shouldn't the question be why the Home Computer app doesn't work as expected?SteveJobs
- Just pay like $300 a month for all the streaming services. Easy!face_melter
- Goes to library, rents book for free, uses a bookmark to resume reading position.shapesalad
- sted1
- NBQ00-5
- That guy looks like he's about to crank out some serious coil after eating spicy food.mg33
- Ok and that’s why you downvoted the video, yes?NBQ00
- I didn't downvote it. I don't have time for that kind of inconsequential clicking.mg33
- Autism?jmckinno
- i downvoted for yousted
- "was the spicy burrito worth it? was it? WAS IT?!"dorf
- grafician1
"Apple is building its own search engine. Can it compete with Google?
The iPhone maker explores building its own search tools as its ties to Google come under antitrust scrutiny"
- https://www.ft.com/c…grafician
- it's in Financial Times, so it must be...grafician
- bring back Ask Jeevesdkoblesky
- altavista2sted
- “Fastest, slimmest search engine yet, and we’re calling it... iSearch.”shapesalad
- Maps worked out well, so we’ll seefuturefood
- Search +ideaist
- (Paid)ideaist
- (Private)ideaist
- (Pornless)ideaist
- Fully integrated. Will have 50% market share immediately. Lawsuits will force Apple to implement an option to add back 3rd party search like google after yearsmonospaced
- mg330
Got the 12Pro in the mail today. It's funny; getting a new phone used to be so much more momentous in the years that Apple really made advances in the phone design.
These days it's like 75% of the excitement is the iOS updates that precede it, and 25% is the new phone itself. It's pretty much an afterthought; they're not getting much faster, battery life isn' that much better, the new physical design doesn't matter that much because it's just going to get a case on it, and that's it. Camera updates are really the only thing that excite me, but it's not something you really put through the paces right away.
- hmm they getting crazy faster. But yeah, we hit a plateau years ago in terms of smartphones being exciting.inteliboy
- it's like getting a new computer. it feels nice having a fresh object.... but it's all the same shit. Same adobe. Same OS. Same emails. Same QBN.inteliboy
- Agree about the plateau. I saw that Apple is looking into patents for foldable stuff. I seriously hope they don't go that Samsung route.mg33
- The Samsung Fold was ridiculous. A true un-needed solution in search of a non-existent problem. And it was a flop on the first try.mg33
- Agreed. Phones are boring now. It's all about the camera updates these days. I'd much prefer more battery. Saying that, 5G compatibility is a necessity by 2022.Hayzilla
- Folding will be great once they get the technology sorted. I'd much prefer a smaller phone that can't pocket dial.formed
- ideaist0
Based on the @sted link above; never REALLY found a use for it as I use an external monitor most of the time (closed laptop), BUT
Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar.
It's free and open source, and it also brings some minimalistic widgets with it!- I'd love to use the Touch Bar more, but my work laptop is plugged into a monitor and kept closed 99% of the time. I rarely even use my home MBP these days.mg33
- PonyBoy0
- Apple added a secret button to your iPhone, and you may not have even noticed
(forgot the headline)PonyBoy - WHOT?????mg33
- This is a plot to get you to break your phone. One tap from your finger while holding these slippery things will send it to the ground.ben_
- While I don't mind The Verge and enjoy some of their reviews, the comments section of their articles make me want to hurt things.face_melter
- Apple added a secret button to your iPhone, and you may not have even noticed
