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  • GM27820

    Check out the free Apple computer I scored yesterday:

    Macintosh Plus

    I powered it up and it works perfectly. Now all I need is a mouse, keyboard, and a copy of MacDraw and I'll be on my way to an exciting career as a graphic designer in 1987. :P

    • That looks like it's in really good condition.

      For free too? I'm a bit envious.
    • It probably works better than their latest model.utopian
    • haha totally free. Neighbor was about to toss it and I asked her if she was sure. I mean, it's a piece of computing history.GM278
    • I power mine up every now and then. Fun timeGnash
    • I'm going to set it up at the office for the designers to mess around with. I need to get a copy of the original Oregon Trail. :PGM278
    • a keeper.umbee54
    • Its like playing old Nintendo games, after 5 min you're going "well. its boring af"Bennn
    • the plastic looks like it hasn't seen light, it's pristine!monospaced
    • Somewhere I hear a SO saying "What have you dragged home this time?"garbage
    • do some design work on it and post back on here!Krassy
    • @garbage hahaha you'd be as surprised as I was to hear my GF was stoked and wants me to source a KidPix disk for her.GM278
    • add a 4K display and report here :)api
    • In a studio I used to work, a guy made one of these into a mini beer fridge (although it never seemed to get real cold)BustySaintClaire
    • Time for some Dark Castle!!!jaylarson
    • back in my younger days i worked with this machinerenderedred
    • SHUFFLEPUCK!monospaced
    • Load it up! https://www.macintos…evilpeacock
    • I have some original rainbow stickers I could sell youemphor
    • I learnt Aldus PageMaker on this. I was the coolest Desktop Publisher in my neighbourhood. TBH, it actually IS what set me on my path into print design.Luda
    • haha... you just as bad as me at hoarding!necromation
    • I'd pay some good money for 20 minutes of Mac Paint on that thing.nocomply
    • I have my Macintosh LC II from 1995 in the loft. Thought it might be cool to use one day or valuable. It's neither. Haven't touched in 25yrs. Except when movingHayzilla
    • I also have a Performa 5320 from 1996 in the loft.Hayzilla
  • GeorgesII9

    sorry apple but microsoft apparently still wants to allow me to make money

    • looks really good to be fair.fadein11
    • and microsoft now do Apple ads better than Apple.fadein11
    • I'd be in the market for this.fadein11
    • this is what the imac should have beensince1979
    • Bravo. Motherfucking bravo.sofakingback
    • Maybe its credit to the great ad. Although they really didn't have to do that stupid paint explode that been done to death. Perfect song dohsofakingback
    • WAKE UP SHEEAAPPLEsince1979
    • Pretty neato. That puck thing looks the absolute tits. Makes the iMac look like a fucking donkey.face_melter
    • I'm a mac guy and this is outstanding. It jumps in price quite a bit for 16gb ram. I would love it but my children would destroy it in seconds.kona
    • I've been waiting for apple to do this for so long, I give up, 3k sounds pretty fuckn goodGeorgesII
    • Is Windows usable yet?i_monk
    • Im a life long apple user. I had to use windows to design at a job for 2 years. it wasn't bad at all. I didn't do anything else on the computer though.sofakingback
    • ^ yep and has been for donkeys aside from the odd mishap along the way :)fadein11
    • why isn't apple suing them?pinkfloyd
    • I created a thread for this, it deserves it lolernexbcn
    • looks cool but that peripheral puck thing is stupid as fuck._niko
    • +1 @i_monk.ideaist
    • Windows is fine. I've been running W10 for almost a year and have yet to have any problems - with any of my design programs - CC, C4D, Vray, Arnold.face_melter
    • I rarely get a chance to use Win, but the last few times it's felt clunky and unintuitive.i_monk
    • Looks amazing. Hopefully the OS is good and I'd be down. I think they could have made the video equally as nice while maintaining brand originality.set
    • amazing, can I run osx on it?
      If so, I'm on board
    • That puck seems unnecessarydesmo
    • mono jumps out windowutopian
    • Windows File Explorer is still Fugly and is as bloated as MS WORDerr
    • if apple had that puck thing you'd all be hating on it.inteliboy
    • still no palm detectionHayoth
    • The puck looks silly. And hey look, the keyboard Apple has been phasing out.raf
    • I have been using windows for design at my work and I hate it with all of my heartscruffics
    • Great tool for drawing rainbows!SimonFFM
    • lol at hating an operating system in 2016. It's not like it breaks into your house, fucks your dog and shits in the fridge.face_melter
    • @Hayot oh yes it does have Palm rejectionmekk
    • as a mac user for almost 20 years, this would probably be enough to make me get one.. but i am not sure i could handle the OSautoflavour
    • @utopian, at least try not to look like a trollmonospaced
    • I like the idea of the puck, but it remains to be seen how useful it really is.i_monk
  • utopian13

    • Jizz.PhanLo
    • <dyspl
    • oooofinteliboy
    • FFSMrT
    • that the newest robot?pango
    • Art is dead.pablo28
    • Apple's Witnessespablo28
    • Where were you when Apple died?
      I was there man!
    • the emperor´s new clothes.neverscared
    • This is funny! Ironic (because not staged).SimonFFM
    • lol @ pangocolin_s
    • 'Quick! I need to post that on all my social media. People will think I'm special'Bennn
    • they are special for surefadein11
    • Industrial design fanboys are okay by me.ideaist
    • Well...
      Apple does want $1,000.00 for it.
    • The people at this event are hungry for content as they are mostly all journos, bloggers, influencers. Of course they are going to take photos!Hayzilla
    • kill it with fireMilan
    • lol witness pangoVandal7
    • are there no girls allowed?neverscared
    • @neverscared did you just assume their gender?Krassy
  • _niko18

    This is a game changer:

    Apple is announcing plans to launch a renewable and sustained energy technology by harnessing the power of Steve jobs rolling in his grave.

    • lolpinkfloyd
    • LOLnbq
    • He's rolling 3x faster nowdopepope
    • aahah +1sted
    • hahahah!sofakingback
    • hehePonyBoy
    • lolmoldero
    • That much power should get us to Mars... and in style.ETM
    • lol, well done.dorf
    • lol wtf!sureshot
    • Just move to Dubai. You can't even say the word weed here.Raybandana
    • Choicegarbage
    • What makes you think their moves wouldn't satisfy the guy who did his best to kill Flash in 2010.CyBrainX
    • Only person who killed flash was the moron at Adobe who didn't bother to make a version that worked well on phones.monospaced
    • Could have easily said, well fuck Apple then. Let's make flash work on all the hundreds of superior devices that aren't just that ONE. they didn't.monospaced
  • GeorgesII19





    • up vote to the right!pango
    • dicks out for georgerambeernexbcn
    • I want speed right now. Do you know a guy.. errr... oh this is about computers...sofakingback
    • Face it. You're not apple's target audience anymore.set
    • LOL @ sofa, don't do it man, it'll rot your mind
      @set, yep seems like I'll have to go back to windows :(
    • Man I wish we could get just a few more apps on Linux then all these problems would go away...mugwart
    • Buy a custom PC on and put as much power as you need. Pay less than Apple too. Voilà.Bennn
    • ^ at first glance that lenovo site made no fucking sense whatsoever.CyBrainX
    • Lenovo site is shocking even when you know what u wantmicrokorg
    • Grab a Dell XPS15 from their outlet discount site. 7i 1tbSSD 32gbRAM about £1600! its the size of a 14" laptop.microkorg
    • ^ they are rare to find. mostly its the 512SSD and 16gb ram. Be quick before the bots. Different stock every day.microkorg
    • Apple Innovation!utopian
    • fuckn lol niko, was expecting "potato"GeorgesII
    • Why can I only upvote once?Miguex
  • ideaist18

    I've become a bitter old man at 36. This shit is very cool, but i just can't get into it.

    Kids. Wife. Job. Introspection and deep thoughts on mortality, etc.

    It's just a phone.


    • seems most people are this way these days. phones are just phones. unless go on internet threads, android users obsessed with how apple sucks and vice versa.inteliboy
    • Same. I'm still using my iPhone SE. It's fine... or at least good enough. I actually like the small size.nocomply
    • Yeah very few adults care about this shit. The few who do are a fucking embarrassment. It's just something to talk about like the weather or TV.nb
    • SE for lifescruffics
    • Nothing wrong with being interested in tech. Nothing wrong with not either. Do what you want.NBQ00
    • I wait for the Pro Max Extra. Oh dear. Wasn't Apple supposed to stand for simplicity?SimonFFM
    • iPhone Pro Max, iPhone Max Max Pro, iPhone X Pro XMas, iPhone Xmas Pro-XDR, iPhone XDR Super-Pro Max X, etc.NBQ00
    • Don't worry, expensive phones have become a regular thing. Nobody is excited about a phone release anymore.mekk
    • I'm happy that i've been alive to see the arriving of all this in the 2000's, it was a great timeBennn
    • ^
      it's not bitter, it's just more of the same. If these came with some crazy AR/VR implementation or whatever, I'm sure you'd be as erect as a young gun again
    • I've not given a shit about phones in years - last time I was excited was when I finally got on the smartphone bandwagon and bought the then-new Nexus 5.Nairn
    • Their strategy is incremental updates. They know most of their customers upgrade every 2-3 years so they want to have a brand new model available at all times,yuekit
    • even if it's only a minor change from the previous year.yuekit
    • The upgrades used to be a lot more impressive and a lot less expensive.CyBrainX
  • ideaist3
    • Available 4.24.

      iPhone SE
      Starting at $399.
    • So it’s just like my iPhone 8 but with a fast chip and improved camera. Hmmm, I like this.monospaced
    • ^Exactly why I like thisgrafician
    • Notch too bigNBQ00
    • Not sure why they didnt go full screeninstrmntl
    • Because it’s a budget SE phoneNBQ00
    • If it was full with FaceID, it would just be the iPhone 11 with a less fancy lens array and features, and cost 2-3x more.monospaced
    • Everything is already in place to build these. Saves a lot of money not updating the designnb
    • regurgitation is the new innovationutopian
    • Innovation can be an omnidirectional my young @utopian.

      ; )

      A budget-friendly phone in a world headed into (another) recession.
    • is it because of corona?drgs
    • I mean "financial crisis" editiondrgs
    • Apple and other brands were doing budget phones for years. Nothing new.NBQ00
    • It's not about price BUT form factor and features. The first iPhone SE was very successful! This will be too. Was planned, not a desperate move cuz of corona!grafician
    • I still use my original SE and will purchase this one for myself and one for the wifey. Been waiting for an upgrade.dasohr
    • Finallyyyyyyyy. Original SE user, looking to stay with a 1-handed phone.e-wo
    • I would agree, a smart move for Apple.utopian
    • where do they make them? isn't china under lockdown?uan
    • Is this supposed to be exciting?section_014
    • I know at least a half dozen SE users who have been waiting for this for years. They all have plenty of money to buy a new phone, but they all want a new SE.nb
    • A lot of people forget that most of us don't give a shit about what phone we have.nb
    • √ Small √ Cheap
      √ Fast √ Secure
    • sad to see the 5 design go.... but guessing the rest of the lineup is going to change to square edgeinteliboy
    • too much $ for what you get & how long it will last compared to other options out theremoldero
    • Wow an Apple at a Covid price!robotron3k
    • is it now made in San Francisco? Like really made there?fadein11
    • mold - iPhones last ages. I'm still on a four/five year old 7. Also good resell value.inteliboy
    • Yup, every iPhone I've had for ~4 years. I only trade up because the batteries are starting to at that point.evilpeacock
    • I'm still using my original SE, which is coming up on 4 years old now. I keep it cuz I like the size... and I'm cheap. This looks like a sweet upgrade!nocomply
    • Here in PT, it's starting at 499 euros... 20% more than in the US...dmay
    • That's because the Dollar is worth 10% more than the Euro right now.monospaced
    • I am debating between this phone and Mac Pro wheels, which are more expensive.zaq
    • Buy the wheels if you’re truly a Pronb
    • This is basically what would have been iPhone 8s only branded SE so they can cut the price in half without cheapening the iPhone brand.raf
    • It's good and they will sell tons of it but at this price you can get a new iPhone X, still a more advanced device for the most part.raf
    • This price is $400, and even the cheapest refurb iPhone X is $600, and has a slower processor. It's better than the X, just without Face ID.monospaced
    • You can get the X new outside of Apple for $400-450. Who cares about the processor if the UI runs smoothly? Also, X has optical zoom & better battery.raf
    • Spec comparison chart for 8, SE, X:…
    • Touch ID and Face ID are very different iPhone experiences.raf
    • Processor is a lot as it is what will keep it speedy for years to come. Most specs are equivalent. And touch experience works with a mask and faceid does not.monospaced
    • Finally, no, you cannot find a new iPhone X for the same price. Used and refurb come close but only for 64Gb. And none with new or original accessories.monospaced
  • autoflavour14

  • noneck14

    Apple engineer talks about the 2016 MacBook Pro.

  • Bennn5

    I'm officially Apple-less.

    The last Apple product I was using is now out of my life.

    I switched from Mac to Windows a few years ago.
    I switched from iPhone to Android last year.

    Well I just dumped iTunes for Music Bee this week.

    I was using iSync and iTunes to put music on my new xperia phone and I was struggling with lots of fuckups. Then i discovered that i can sync my phone directly in Music Bee! Like an iPhone in iTunes! And it works perfectly!

    Music Bee is an open source software. Way much better than iTunes! Fully customisable, you can changed everything in it as you wish. You can also add lyrics, upcoming shows, access wikipedia of an artist, see the upcoming albums...

    Bye Apple.

    • Did you get the Z5 Compact?dmay
    • yes :)Bennn
    • So ugly, though.nb
    • I think it looks great, are you happy with it, Benn?dmay
    • good for you.pango
    • http://s2.quickmeme.…ok_not_ok
    • You want your apple-less apps to act like apples apps, just not be apple?dopepope
    • nb, whats ugly? the xperia or Music Bee?Bennn
    • dopepope, no. i dont want this.Bennn
    • good on you bensureshot
    • oh noooo!…chukkaphob
    • So many jumped up little Apple fanboys hahaset
    • Music Bee looks ugly.nb
    • Android and iOS are both great, but Android is definitely a little better.nb
    • I replaced iTunes with Spotify and YouTube/soundcloudernexbcn
    • Tree apps to replace one?nb
    • Three apps to replace one?nb
    • welcome to the real worldfeel
    • I still use iTunes, but only for the store - sometimes albums/tracks don't show up on 7digital, which along with Bandcamp are my first options.face_melter
    • I play my library through foobar. Streaming is for suckers.face_melter
    • paging monospaced....1...2...utopian
    • what?monospaced
    • nb, there's dozens of 'skins' for Music Bee, you can change everything, the fonts, the colors, the panels, etc. its infinite. The base model looks ugly, yes.Bennn
    • Skins? This Music Bee thing sounds like Winamp. Or Sonic.Continuity
    • Neat. Why don't they just make the good skin the default, then?nb
    • fuck apple and the bed of money it shit itself insrhadden
    • "skin" isnt the right word. Just try it i dont know how to explain it. Just know you can customize everything. Seriously much better than iTunes.Bennn
    • Why is this something to be proud of?
      Why are people congratulating this?
    • i was being sarcastic....pango
    • the never ending blood thirst of apple's doom. circe 1984inteliboy
    • i've never said i was proudBennn
    • Ben the never proud.pango
  • yurimon17

  • PhanLo0

    James Jean got one.

    • is it see or does the logo feel slightly too big?_niko
    • James Jean who?NBQ00
    • this guy: https://acclaimmag.c…_niko
    • Mac Pro Pro.shapesalad
    • Should have called it the "Mac Pro 2Advanced"shapesalad
    • @NBQ00 Just one of the best living artists, no big deal.
    • Ah yes I know his stuff. Just didn't remember the name. But why does he have a new Mac Pro already?NBQ00
    • @NBQ00 He did a bit of work promoting the iPad in the past, I wonder if they gave him one to try out? Lucky guy. :-)…
    • Those handles are total spaz.Nairn
    • I wonder how long until knockoffs use the identical handle and foot design.monospaced
    • Got those jandles from a handicap shower stall...robotron3k
    • lol @ "one of the best living artists" #forgettableimbecile
    • iGrater™Turboslacker
    • you can buy those legs at ikeafuturefood
    • @Imbecile, he's no Jony Ive, but I rate his painting.PhanLo
    • is it just me but it doesn't look that good?Bennn
    • This looks like it’s augmented?thumb_screws
    • 1999 just called...they want their cluster fuck of cheese grater back.

    • LOOOOL @ Niko, I was like Wait, that's Janes DEAN..........elahon
    • @Bennn - not just you.monNom
    • you guys know that this is an AR filter right? you can point your iphone to your desk and place it…feel
    • God that thing is ugly!formed
    • Is this real?Hayoth
    • @feel comin in with the real deal.robthelad
    • @imbecile LOL
      I had to look him up. And to think he's up there with Johns, Ruscha, Richter, Nauman, Stella, Baselitz...
    • lol deadspermfadein11
    • It used to be that you needed a retrospective at a major museum to earn that title, all you need now is to get featured on Hypebeast.
    • Amusingly, Jean's possibly on more walls of the young'uns than all those fogeys combined, with their inaccessible, navel- gazing twaddleNairn
    • Live your truth!deadsperm
    • Well, maybe not walls - mobiles and desktops though? I'd wage money on it.Nairn
    • It don't really matter what matter what surface it's on. If we are to have a conversation we have to accept the common definitions of things.deadsperm
    • In this case the institutional concept of art.
      I might have a desktop wallpaper of a rad scooter kid that I think is the bomb...
    • ... but I would never place that kid among the greatest living athletes like Jordan, Mays, Gretzky, Bolt, Williams.deadsperm
  • utopian10







    • have you tried restarting?Gnash
    • you're obsessed. do you wear an "innovation never sleeps" t-shirt?inteliboy
    • lolmonospaced
    • Gnash ahaha :D
      @inteliboy he has a tattoo
    • Relax. It's just a watch.chukkaphob
    • That's a feature and you're holding it wrong.Peter
    • *crowd goes nuts*face_melter
    • I trashed all my Apple stuff away. I'm really happy with Android and Windows.Bennn
    • full of rage and frustration.sureshot
    • It's a well-constructed and concise argument and a message I can't help but endorse.face_melter
    • welcomefeel
    • lower your expectations.since1979
    • Just more headaches from a second rate US company that outsources all their slave labor jobs to children and China.utopian
    • Just 6 hours to install and uninstall and reinstall Sierra.utopian
    • Adobe apps would not work had to find a Java patch.utopian
    • Apple sleeping at the wheel...nothing new from them.utopian
    • Innovation Never Sleeps!utopian
  • noneck9

    Feeling like Apple has abandoned you? You're not alone.…

    "Interviews with people familiar with Apple's inner workings reveal that the Mac is getting far less attention than it once did. They say the Mac team has lost clout with the famed industrial design group led by Jony Ive and the company's software team. They also describe a lack of clear direction from senior management, departures of key people working on Mac hardware and technical challenges that have delayed the roll-out of new computers."

    • If they even tried to make a competitive Mac Pro trash can I wouldn't be switching to Windows.CyBrainX
    • just keep the mac mini going and bolster the pro and call it a day.since1979
    • and refresh the imac of coursesince1979
    • go figure.utopian
    • mac pro trashcan = hard-2-upgrade, dongle-rific, wire clustered dust collecting fucking nightmare.moldero
    • My problem is that I don't feel like there's a ton of good options laptop when matching specs etc. ...sure dongle life might suck, price is not that different.smatras
    • maybe the top peeps that leave go and setup an independent crowdfunded mac pro alternative. we can dream...fruitsalad
    • in other news, water is wet.. ehehehGeorgesII
    • I just don't get it, they have thousands of employees.... in theory a small team could keep the Macs up to date.inteliboy
    • Sounds like some unhappy people at Apple...they don't usually have leaks to the press like that.yuekit
    • Bought a 2015 iMac after seeing what they did to the MacBook Pro. I don't trust them to not fuck it up even more.noneck
    • The first iPod profits marks their shift in attitude.instrmntl
    • ^yup, all about money, the iphone sent expectations skyrocketingformed
    • for awhile after the iPod the Macs were rad, but then they went all weird and closedmonospaced
  • ideaist3

    Thoughts on:

    Allegedly NOT fake ->…

    • if it's real, I think it's quite cool - certainly, a small dynamic feedback interface would be.. my concern is how it would evolve, staying backwards compatibledetritus
    • meh, why notsince1979
    • Looks cool but I have to use it before I say anything else. Seems to be a 13 inch laptop in the picture, are those new or did the 13' had those speakers?Maaku
    • mehpinkfloyd
    • I'm too old for this shit.ideaist
    • will it have essential ports for us to connect to things? will it be considerably faster?
      everything else its irrelevant at this point
    • what when having no handssureshot
    • If I can get used to not feeling the esc key, I'm down with the toolbar. It's the only key in the function row that I use a lot.section_014
    • I use esc too much for it to just become a non-key. Maybe I'm also too old for this shit.monospaced
    • Most keys I use in that row are the volume ones.Continuity
    • I use most of them regularly, except for the keyboard brightness keys. Media keys work with spotify, and the others are good for swapping workspaces & windows.monospaced
    • ^ yup. I'll miss them for sureGnash
    • so is this a hand of a person who works as a "hand model?"Krassy
    • costanzasince1979
    • @krassy, it's a freakin' macrumors mockup graphic ... it's probably clipartmonospaced
    • A macrumors mock-up embedded inside the latest OS?face_melter
    • ah... I didn't realize those were from OS X ... it looks like the same hand they have had in the Settings for yearsmonospaced
    • if it's customisable it's going to be great. otherwise it will be frustrating. also i wonder how long until all other laptops copy this...inteliboy
    • I just want the new cinema display with the built in GPU.nthkl
    • INNOVATION!utopian
    • meh, especially since my MBP is connected to the TB display 90% of the dayfourth
    • What problem does it solve?robthelad
    • @rob: it solves the marketing department's apple pay requestsince1979
    • i reckon it solves the problem that i never use the function keys except Apples actual play/pause/volume buttons.inteliboy
    • be nice to have app shortcut icons up there depending on what app you're ininteliboy
    • Exactly inteliboy, the F keys are horribly underutilised by most peopledetritus
    • led toolbar will probably have force touch toomekk
  • grafician7

    • mono do you have one?utopian
    • WOTDimbecile
    • Found it on tumblr, no source, but I quite like it, would get onegrafician
    • holy shit utopian, you're the biggest apple fanboy on this sitemonospaced
    • "Tech oligarchs appeal to the lost youth of well-financed, middle-aged fan base."sarahfailin
    • This is absolutely awesome.mg33
    • I want one.pango
    • Wouldmaquito
    • Only $9999.99nbq
    • the brake cable is an extra $100_me_
    • Kick stand another 200pango
    • ain't shitnudes
    • ohh ....a normal bike with some corporate logos connected sweatshop labour ...thank god it´s so awesome...neverscared
    • Radical, man.Chimp
  • pablo284

    • Jesus fucking christ. Kill us all.
      Kill us all now.
    • this is so lamedesmo
    • Boss: Ok guys! We will do a little dance today! Yahy!
      Me: Fuck that shit, i'm out.
    • For the prices they charge I would want a dance number, dinner, and a gobble.face_melter
    • They should deliver it on your desk at work, with a dinner.Bennn
    • There is nothing more bile inducing that witnessing 1st hand the poor staff of an Apple store humiliating themselves like thisfadein11
    • than*fadein11
    • I imagine Steve Jobs' arse cheeks would curl up inside his anus too if he saw thisset
    • Nuke entire Asia as punishmentOBBTKN
    • Is this old? do they seriously still do that shit? I thought lines for apple products were a thing of the past...zarkonite
    • isn't this from many years ago, when the iPhone launched in china for the first time?monospaced
    • ^ looks like two different size, very modern looking iphones on the table in the background. Definite not original iphone launchset
    • Did apple even have stores like that before the iphone?set
    • This is super old, but still just as cringe worthy.instrmntl
    • ^ 2016pablo28
    • Apple had their own stores like that for years before the iPhone. We had one in SF I think in 2002.monospaced
    •… 1:05pablo28
    • so many geniusesKrassy
    • lol krassyset
    • Apple staff are wankers. Always unhelpful and usually creepy smug fuckers too.PhanLo
    • I didn't know Kim Jong Un once worked at the Genius Bar...dedlaast
    • F%% imbeciles, is this in China ?i_was
    • they do still do this.fadein11
  • nb5

    Why is the MacBook more expensive than Dell?

    I bought a MBP in 2004, used it for design, photography, video. Was both my work and personal computer. Travelled the world with it. It died in 2013. Nine years of use.

    In 2013, I replaced it with a refurbished MBP. Six years of use and I'm thinking it might be nice to get a one, but I'll probably keep this for a couple more years. It has no issues, runs fine.

    Know anyone using a 2013 Dell for graphics work?

    Amortized over the years, the Mac is cheaper. And arguably better for the environment.

    Now, if you need the latest spec each year or two for Pro work, maybe the Mac isn't the best value. You should calculate cost of ownership, including resale value.

    I'm not saying the last few years of Apple laptops has been good. It hasn't. But the 16" is a step in the right direction.

    • And also, yeah, part of it is the luxury tax.nb
    • I'd be very surprised if there weren't oodles of people quietly beavering away on old Dells without much thought about it.Nairn
    • I don't like Dell, but they're solidly-built, unfussy machines and given the cost difference, can come with better specs than Apple meaning they'll last longerNairn
    • I have an old Dell I still use that's probably 2011. My Precision running W2000 works perfectly fine, too.formed
    • That Precision is from something like 2004, fyi.formed
    • I'd take a Dell with Mac OS running smoothly. I hate the Windows environment.i_monk
    • Seconded, my Macs always last a long time and I've been able to fix/upgrade everything I needed to.mathinc
    • I just retired my 2012 iMac. My 2015 laptop is still a beast, just upgraded the SSD and I'll probably keep it another 3 years or so.mathinc
    • I've had little bugs here and there, but I just can't hang with the Microsoft operating system.mathinc
    • I’m still rocking a 2011 mbpGnash
    • Y'all using these Dells to run Adobe CC 2019 apps?!nb
    • I mean your old Dells. It's fine if it still works, but does it still "work" work?nb
    • If you are not willing to invest $$$ in something you'll spend 40+ hours a week working on, than I'd say you're a "windows guy".

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    • Most Dell hardware can be had cheaper than Apple, and on paper the specs are generally better. This was always the case.evilpeacock
    • But I've IT'ed a fleet of Dell laptops and had to do multiple part replacements frequently. And drivers aren't updated as much as the component vendors.evilpeacock
    • And Dell support software was stuck in an endless security backdoor scandal which sucked up IT resources.evilpeacock
    • Dell vs Apple cost-of-ownership was kind of a wash, with Dells needing more support and having more downtime for that. YMMV of course, it depends on what you doevilpeacock
    • Ha! Gnash, me too 2011 mbp still going strong running adobe cc flawlessly including after effects work_niko
    • My current MBP is from 2009. Only use it for work the odd time but its still going strong. I will finally replace it with the new release though.desmo
    • Also, Apple has always been significantly more expensive since day 1. If price is a big factor for you, then the choice should be easy.desmo
    • anything can last, that's a false measure, especially if you keep fixing it! My 2018 MBP is broken, lasted 15 months. I own a tshirt I got 10 years ago.craigatkinson
    • Longevity isn't a measure of goodnesscraigatkinson
    • Look at avacado. They only last a day or two, but they're great, and expensive, and a unibody shell.craigatkinson
    • Although, if I bought Apple stock with the money I spent on my first Mac, I’d have retired years agoGnash
    • Have a 2010 Dell that works great for most things still. It a little too slow for video work but for Photoshop and Illustrator and general use its still good.webazoot
    • Had to replace the keyboard about three years ago and strip it apart to clean the fan out a couple of times but other than that...webazoot
    • @desmo Have also a 2009 MBP and running smoothly still with 8GB ram, idk why ppl complain - apple is more expensive but they last 3-4 x of any regular laptopgrafician
    • Waiting for the 16" FULL screen tho' maybe in 2 generations to upgrade for something like $5k and last me past 2025 at leastgrafician
    • I have a few MBPs from 2011 still going, just had RAM, SSD and battery upgrades but they work really well overall.evilpeacock
    • We ran a Power Mac G4 "Smurf" tower "legacy" backup server for 19 years before the power supply gave up. Got our $4K value out of that for sure.evilpeacock
    • Cuz people are buying mb. If people didn't buy then they'd be cheaperHayoth
    • I still use my Dell Precision M6800 laptop for all my work. I bought it 2014 or something like that. It's the size of an old VCR though.haga
    • @craigatkinson You're literally comparing Apples to Avocados!!! :)nb
    • Longevity may not be all that matters, but this is a machine which I use for work so cost-of-ownership is highly relevant.nb
    • Our stories are anecdotal. However, it is possible that a MBP could have lower cost of ownership than a Dell, there is little reason to buy Dell.nb
    • ...unless you really love Dell and want to drop the extra cash on it. ;)nb
  • ideaist12

    • lolKrassy
    • 6k on amazonteh
    • Recycling old jokes and an old design. At least it’s a real computer this time.monospaced
    • only custom Radeon, still sucksfeel
    • LOLOLOL "this time"imbecile
    • I got the one with 32 threads, amazing machinei_was
    • Ah, my teenage face scrubberrobthelad
    • This grater looks better, IMOdavey_g
  • dasmeteor5

    • Pile of Poo gains a thicker, more 3D appearance in iOS 10dasmeteor
    • THIS is the kind of innovation I want to see from a global tech company. Increased AO on their fecal emojis.face_melter
    • http://blog.emojiped…dasmeteor
    • Healthier poo has shine®fyoucher1
    • it smiles moredrgs
    • top feature, well done applehans_glib
    • teeth are whiter also.yurimon
    • DIdnt they make emojis bigger? Make ios10's shit emoji bigger too!err
    • They're going in reverse now. More 3d, less flat.section_014
    • "But Tim, we have to work on the Mac lineup"..."Screw the Mac, we're gonna get this shit looking better, TODAY!!!"section_014
    • Back to the skeuomorphismdasmeteor
    • God I hope notformed
    • the iOS9 version is better. FAILBennn
    • that's it, Apple's fucked, time to sell your stocksmonospaced
    • Polishing a turd?yuekit
    • i wonder who the vector artist polishing these turds is?since1979
    • the person is paid 40h/week to be a graphic designer at Apple. He polish emoticons when he dont know what to do.Bennn
    • oh he/she knows what to do... polish emoticonssince1979
    • I used to know a guy who did icon design and left the UK to join Apple. Maybe this is his career nadir.face_melter
    • Turds Polisher.dasmeteor
    • Is there anything more wrong than a grown man sending an emoji?CyBrainX
    • sending emoticons is perectly ok at any ageBennn
    • Shit & Shitdbloc
    • 'Daddy, what do you do for a living? I need to present this in class tomorrow.' 'Well, honey, I've got just the thing ... 'Continuity