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- Beeswax0
- https://www.npr.org/…Beeswax
- A kid in my son's class just tested positive last Friday. So my three are all home for a few days. I forgot how horrible it is having my kids here. hahamathinc
- vaccine approval coming down to age 12. Would you have them get it? I have a 3.yo and we're planning to fly to US in a month or so, I'm worried about him beingBeeswax
- in the plane for 13 hours and we cant keep the mask on his face all the way.Beeswax
- literally nothing will happen to your kid - if he/she gets covid or not.pr2
- Pr2 you are so full of shit.robotinc
- stfu prQmonospaced
- A kid can give it to his grandma and she can die you heartless ignorant fuck. Your Q anon conspiracies are done.monospaced
- pr2anonnb
- Fucking local QBN morons who NEVER EVER read. Guys cut this internet crap because you appear dimmer than my cactus.pr2
- 1. Most likely YOU will give covid to your kid, not the other way around.
2. Likewise, it's the grandman who will give covid to your kid not them to her.pr2 - This is science talking but since some here choose to live in Medieval Inquisition times, none of this will ever get to their dumb thick skull.pr2
- But you're wrong on both points, and both points are not arguments in your favor. You have NO right insulting anyone's intelligence around here. That's a fact.monospaced
- Sounds like you're denying that unvaccinated children in schools are not transmitting the virus between each other and at home. Weird.monospaced
- Why would grandma, who's been locked down, wearing her mask like a good adult, be more likely to have COVID than a kid playing at a playground w/o one?monospaced
- Mono, since you kept your cool and didn't go into insults, i'll try to be non-insulting too.pr2
- 1. By now there are numerous studies that show that kids don't get covid as easily as adults, when sick don't get symptoms as bad as adults and are...pr2
- ...are not great spreaders (in household or school environments).pr2
- In numerous studies it usually was the adult who infected the kid (in household environment or school) not the other way around.pr2
- The biggest spreaders are old people because they shed the largest number of viruses.pr2
- There are some diseases (chicken pox or 5th disease for instance) that are insignificant for kids but can be serious for adults. The opposite is true too.pr2
- 2. "Kids" have a very broad definition. Here we are using OP's 3 yo as the definer. In this age group a common flu is more serious than covid.pr2
- I get it, some of this stuff indeed is counter intuitive. It might surprise you that i was one of the first ones in my 'hood to wear mask and had really...pr2
- ...hard time changing my view that they basically work. So i get that some might have a hard time going against the common sense.pr2
- I kept my cool too, right!pr2
- drgs1
How much politics is there in covidomania?
The Liberals Who Can’t Quit Lockdown
https://www.theatlantic.com/poli…"For many progressives, extreme vigilance was in part about opposing Donald Trump. Some of this reaction was born of deeply felt frustration with how he handled the pandemic. It could also be knee-jerk. “If he said, ‘Keep schools open,’ then, well, we’re going to do everything in our power to keep schools closed,” Monica Gandhi, a professor of medicine at UC San Francisco, told me. Gandhi describes herself as “left of left,” but has alienated some of her ideological peers because she has advocated for policies such as reopening schools and establishing a clear timeline for the end of mask mandates. “We went the other way, in an extreme way, against Trump’s politicization,” Gandhi said. Geography and personality may have also contributed to progressives’ caution: Some of the most liberal parts of the country are places where the pandemic hit especially hard, and Hetherington found that the very liberal participants in his survey tended to be the most neurotic."
CDC says many Americans can now go outside without a mask
https://apnews.com/article/cdc-m…Now the CDC wants to shut down 'hygiene theater'
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/…Texas fully reopened 1 month ago:
https://www.worldometers.info/co…Dicsuss
- just as trump and brexit did, covid has split people into two opposing camps, neither of which will countenance the others' point of view.hans_glib
- in each case. both sides have their own truth, inviolate and indupitable.hans_glib
- I stopped posting in this thread for months. It wasn't only trump, folks give you funny eye just for saying 'herd immunity' here because Boris said it once.kingsteven
- I agree that many people allow themselves to fall into these tribal factions. It's wild. Me, I'm sticking with the science and over-indexing on not getting ill.nb
- eg. It's becoming clear that being outside is pretty safe regardless of group, masks, distance, etc. I like outside. Love patios. Love the park, love the beach.nb
- Madrid has had no real lock down since March 2020, Barcelona has been shut for a long time. The numbers between the two cities aren't that different.Chimp
- "It's becoming clear that being outside is pretty safe" - nb.
I can't wait for when it will become clear to you that Earth revolves around Sun.pr2 - Let me know where to send in ducktape to keep your head from exploding with this new-found knowledge. Postage is one me.pr2
- I love it when pr2 tries to take a victory lap and then shits the bed with something like "Postage is one me". Fucking hilarious.garbage
- Imagine being so deluded you can ignore reality and still think EVERYONE is wrong. Every government, every epidemiologist, everyone.monospaced
- He's like our own personal Dunning-Kruger generator.garbage
- @pr2: EVERYONE. HATES. YOU. FUCK. OFFnb
- mort_4
- the fear is strong with this onehans_glib
- may the Fear be with youKrassy
- shooting of the day;
giant nerf gun victimGuyFawkes - Fancy dress?Chimp
- Every pipe is for a science-denying QBN'ener who chooses to live in perpetual fear.pr2
- Aww, pr2 is still pretending he understands science. It's kind of adorable, but please remember the crayons are for your drawings, not snacktime.garbage
- no fear here, just considerateGuyFawkes
- I remember seeing the photos from the first lockdown of people dressed in plastic bags and what not. All I saw was a terrified personIanbolton
- this is pretty cool though!Ianbolton
- garbage is terrified that we found picture of him.pr2
- okay prQ
go take your conspiracy shit somewhere elsemonospaced - lol, prQ. Has me shaking in my boots.garbage
- If I was that paranoid (picture) I would take a taxidrgs
- grafician1
JUST IN: Moderna says its coronavirus vaccine booster shot generates immune response against variants from Brazil and South Africa
- sputnik V respond to every non Russian strains.ApeRobot
- Yeah. But the vaccine is worse than the virus according to some fucking idiots, so I’m really torn on if it’s even worth it.monospaced
- according to the same idiots there is no reason to worry about the virus eitherrobotinc
- Ive had moderna, slightly sore arm after sleeping on it but that was it for me.woowahesque
- mort_2
Seems I have a couple of friends who don't subscribe to the same views as me regarding vaccines. I'm not going to demonize them and would prefer to stay friends and see them for coffee etc.
So I'm curious, from a safety point of view, what's your strategy in terms of close contact with friends who won't get vaccinated, if you have any?
- If you got the vaccine it's a small risk for you, a big one for them.
Why is it so hard to grasp that unless we ALL get vaccinated we're not in the clear!grafician - flol at the vaccine putting us in the clear.hans_glib
- i have a good friend who doesn't intend to get the vaccine. she feels (quite rightly) that it hasn't been tested properly and she would like the choice...hans_glib
- ... not to have it. we've seen each other regularly throughout the whole pandemic and i'm not abandoning her because of her stance.hans_glib
- i say that as someone who will be fully vacc'd by next week.hans_glib
- @hans, will you both continue to wear masks and socially distance when you meet?mort_
- I'm in the same boat as hans, getting my first dose at 4.30 and have friends who refuse to get it who I've hung out with throughout this pandemicIanbolton
- Happy to let people make their own choices, but i think it's hard to discrimminate as some people just don't have a lot of trust in anything right nowIanbolton
- Yeah, I don't think anyone is on firm ground here really. You have to just educate yourself as best as you can and go with what makes sense to you.mort_
- And avoid certain conversations with those friends if they aren't productive.mort_
- It depends on what they do with their time. If they're honest with you and if they are extremely limiting indoor contact then it's low risk for you.nb
- 99.7% survival. Stop being anti-science.Hayoth
- The same science says wearing masks is important. Can’t pick and choose you commie bitch.monospaced
- @mort no we'll continue to meet up indoors and hug each other, as we pretty much have done throughout the whole sorry affair.hans_glib
- i should add that to begin with we were very respectful - she shared a house with a worried housemate, and i had to visit my folks, so we needed to be sure...hans_glib
- ... we weren't carrying anything nasty. but after a while it became obvious that we were effectively a bubble so that was that.hans_glib
- Sensible!mort_
- i have both vaccinated and non vaccinated friends and i am not. nothing changed with me and them. i respect their choice and they respect mine.renderedred
- To clarify grafician, it's no risk to the vaccinated and barely any risk to the unvaccinated, assuming they're not obese, don't have comorbidities, etc...MondoMorphic
- You got vaxed. The chance of you getting re-infected is super slim. Trust your immune systems and start living again.pr2
- Everyone has a different risk profile. AZ is like 1 in 100k will get a blood clot and die. That might be an unnessasary risk, or it might be acceptable riskmonNom
- If you live in a way that you're not likely to get covid, even if it's 100x more likely to kill you, that might not make sense for you. For most people, it doesmonNom
- not everybody dies from a blood clot, that's not true, but you're going to live on blood thinner for the rest of your life.sted
- Family of 4 gets AZ.
Mother over 75: no side effects or symptoms.
Daughter: fever, weakness 4 days suffering
Son1: fever
Son2: no side effects or symptoms.sted - Mother and Son2 are obese and strong smokers they live an unhealthy life, Son1 is just smoking, Daughter obese and non-smoker.sted
- my wife, my daughter and I have all had the 1sst shot of Phizer. Don't think I'll be hanging out with anyone that hasn't had the shot unless we're wearing masksexador1
- If you got the vaccine it's a small risk for you, a big one for them.
- nb0
Society:
"Here's the most heavily scrutinized, researched, entire-world-is-paying-attention with unlimited funding vaccine in the history of science."Your barely-even-employable friends:
"No thanks... Doesn't feel like they tested it."- You are the test.Hayoth
- ^ scaredy catnb
- *while eating shawarma*grafician
- Lol@graficiannb
- https://getyarn.io/y…Gardener
- nb, you view of the world is too simplistic even for my 5 year old.pr2
- lol okay prQ, why don’t you attempt to red pill us again, it’s funny and sadmonospaced
- pr2 no offense but you look like you're lacking some serious nutrients in your photos, maybe if you took care of yourself better you could give health adviceGuyFawkes
- get some of those endorphins man, you'll feel good hence becoming less of an assholeGuyFawkes
- or get into jiu jitsu or something, that will ease up your aggression for sure, its always the guys who cant defend themselves are the biggest online assholesGuyFawkes
- again, no offense meant, its just sad seeing someone relatively smart going down the path you're onGuyFawkes
- Buy some knives, watch some MMA and cry like a little bitch and claim to quit QBN when push comes to shove.
No offense meant.palimpsest - guy, no offence, but if you take the time to look up pics of dudes online then maybe you need to get a hobby or something.pr2
- This is why I love QBN.
We're always giving advice and looking out for each other.palimpsest - *offensemonospaced
- true to that!pr2
- you posted it years back pr2, you really are lacking nutrientsGuyFawkes
- for the brain you can take some Lions Mane mushroom, Ginko, most important though, get some blood up there, do some cardioGuyFawkes
- grafician0
"Nicholas Wade, one of the world's best science journalists, meticulously reviews the evidence for Covid's origin and concludes that a lab escape in Wuhan is the most likely explanation:"
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/…
source: https://twitter.com/JohnTierneyN…
It's a long read the article, you can take the time (over 40 mins) and make up your mind later - if not, then it's a confirmation for some...
- Still... "most likely" doesn't mean it was.nb
- @nb read the article and decide later the percent of "most likely" you agree withgrafician
- nicholaswade at yahoo.com
Is all we need to know.palimpsest - "It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory." P5, S2monospaced
- "So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer." He flat out says he does not make a conclusion. Someone else said that.monospaced
- @mono it is almost impossible after a year to find any definitive proof, but yeah here we are...grafician
- just sayin', there is no conclusionmonospaced
- It was Randy Marsh. He had sex with a bat on the rip with Mickey MousePhanLo
- @mono not pushing an agenda, just sayin, the probability is not 0, more closer to 1 in time...grafician
- and continuing, when it comes to communist countries, an example would be Chernobyl disaster led to the fall of the USSR - let's see if China makes itgrafician
- lol, okaymonospaced
- a list of times (we know of) a virus has escaped from a lab https://armscontrolc…kingsteven
- Chernobyl, if it was funded by the CDC and the biggest European and American business relied on russian exploitation of workers and natural resources?kingsteven
- i think it's incredibly likely it was lab release. i think it's likely we've had collected strains leaked from labs since the beginning of the pandemickingsteven
- I’m on team labGnash
- it's one of those things that are probable but makes no difference at this point, hopefully they create new safety protocols moving forward._niko
- If it was actually proven it came from lab and Chinese gov covered it up, how would that not have massive consequences for politics, science etc?yuekit
- Having said that I don't see how it will ever be proven unless there is a leak of documents showing the exact same virus existed in the lab.yuekit
- The case this author and others put forward in an article like this is compelling when you read it in isolation. But the point I keep coming back to isyuekit
- that the Wuhan market is not the only origin point other than the lab. The potential ways it could have arrived in Wuhan are basically endless. No one wasyuekit
- looking for the virus prior to December 2019 after all.yuekit
- yeah, i don't get the WHO's claim that it was unlikely after inspecting the WIV. there are leaks from BSL-3 labs all the time. no protocol is 100% effective.kingsteven
- Yeah and notice the head of WHO even added some caveats saying they did not rule out lab leak. So the whole thing is about as clear as mud.yuekit
- Obviously the lab was one vector where people were interacting with bats in proximity with Wuhan. But how many other vectors were there?yuekit
- yeap, if track and trace requires 80% of close contacts to be effective it would be impossible to know for sure. but if it was an accidental release it wouldkingsteven
- probably be identified and traced back to a market near the leak, and it would seem a convenient scapegoat for a country divided on traditional food/medicinekingsteven
- sted2
In slovakia:
Do you know a retiree who is past 70 years old, wants to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, but can’t get to the vaccination center? Help her/him and you will get the vaccine with her/him.
- utopian11
- AmenRamanisky2
- Whateveri_was
- Bears, god loves bears more.XanderCage
- pablo282
- she might have a super low immune system.pango
- send someone else to shop for youdrgs
- Let people live! This is fine!nb
- That is actually coolSlashPeckham
- she might be out of work and got no money to pay people to buy for her.pango
- Order groceries onlinedrgs
- drgs has all the answers lolnb
- This is the kind of inside-the-box thinking we all needstoplying
- Not every grocery offers online shoppingpango
- Use the ones which dodrgs
- maybe none do and or dont deliver to her placepango
- Super low immune system, out of work, got no money and lives in a backwoods town -- well maybe its not ment to be thendrgs
- probably a Trump supporter.utopian
- scarabin5
- 5G increase 100%palimpsest
- basically, covid is the cure-it-all we've all been waiting for...pr2
- covid cures what?pango
- Look at the data, pr2. All you have to do is look at the data.palimpsest
- What is varicella? Sounds Italian!!Ianbolton
- ^ it's like stracciatella but with a higher variety of ingredients hence varicellaoey_oey
- Sauce?oey_oey
- ^ why would anyone want to get rid of that?palimpsest
- You put it over pasta? Is it a dessert?palimpsest
- ^ Funny you say that. A friend of mine in Poland recently told me that spaghetti cooked in sweetened water, with straberry sauce and whipped cream on top ...Continuity
- ... is a big thing there.Continuity
- I just puked in my mouth a littleoey_oey
- Tiramisu is dessert lasagna.palimpsest
- Don't enjoy eitheroey_oey
- grafician1
So browsing stories on instagram, and come across a photographer friend posting anti-vaxx stories effectively filming that Tucker guy from Fox and adding anti-vax texts over the video complaining "we don't know what's in the vaccines and it's my body" type shit, then in another story complains about instagram inserting a notice that what that guys says is basically disinformation and cursing instagram for that notice ranting instagram is doing her wrong - while using instagram 24/7 (she posts non-stop stories)
I was stunned. Unfollowed instantly.
I mean, Simon barely has any work and he is being very respectful and caring about safety with his shoots and then comes this photographer from down here who has no respect for anything...smh
The idea of that shit from Fox influencing people overseas is outrageous and borderline criminal.
You guys in the US must do something about that asap
- the problem is this idiot photographer she is a semi-influencer down here and many other girls and young women follow her and she is a bad fucking influence!grafician
- it's only her opinion. if people want to be influenced by some airhead then let them.hans_glib
- Yeah 'Murica, you need to do something about grafician's friend ASAP.palimpsest
- Yes Murica, continue to export stupidity:
https://www.theatlan…grafician - we can't shake this virus shit because of morons like this...smhgrafician
- Post her IG account we'll forward it to Biden so he can get on it ASAP.palimpsest
- @palimpsest stfu bobografician
- @grafician
It is a shame how people blindly follow misinformation instead of looking at the facts in front of them.
Thanks for making that point.palimpsest - when that idiot Rogan said you don't need to get the vaccine you were enraged, but keep airing this Tucker muppet...
get your fucking priorities in linegrafician - @palimpsest you making fun of this is like pr2 insulting maquito
btw how pr2 is still here is beyond megrafician - If me making fun of your entitled outrage is the same as the pr2/maqui affair don't fret, QBN will come to your rescue.
Operators are standing by.palimpsest - In the meantime do lecture us on the problems of disinformation.
:Dpalimpsest - no, you missed the point, the point was stop that muppet Tucker from spreading filth ffsake
haven't you had enough of Fox bullshit?grafician - but oh wait, there's TONS of stories of americans complaining they lost relatives to Qanon or Fox and still you do nothing to curb this shit...grafician
- I guess this shit is doing the rest of us a favour: point exactly at the most dumb fuckers in our society and make the rest of us avoid them at all costsgrafician
- I did not miss your point. I was specifically mocking your call for America to do something ASAP.palimpsest
- You then started parroting rumors about me started by idiots. And went as far as to compare yourself to maquito, me being pr2.palimpsest
- I'm not the one that's confused or missed the point. I'm not the one spreading misinformation.
I am the one who knocks.palimpsest - well I was being serious about this. your mocking didn't help.
anyway, sorry for ranting, but my glass was over the top today I guessgrafician
- yuekit1
If every government has listened to the "COVID skeptics" and just done nothing...no masks, no lockdown, no rush vaccine development...what would the outcome have been?
- The other side would be complaining.palimpsest
- Even COVID believers take measures as a personal affront.
This is the way.palimpsest - Everybody wants change but nobody wants to change.palimpsest
- @palimp yeah shut down Fox, qanon and trump and all those bozos, can you do that?grafician
- See India, Brazil, etc.grafician
- Also imagine instead of covid having ebola rampant for a year with no vaccinegrafician
- they would loose 0.004 of their population, then enough people would get the virus that it stopped being a threat.pr2
- 0.4% of their population.pr2
- it would have sped everything up. the same people would have gone down with / died of it. hospitals would have been overrun, politicians would be in the dockhans_glib
- 'politicians would be in the dock' ... flol
Politicians are never in the dock.Continuity - something like india.shapesalad
- worse than indiakaiyohtee
- CASE IN POINT: pr2 again with his crazy math and no disregard for human lifegrafician
- no regard*grafician
- uncontrolled chaos... unboundend exponnential infection shifts... boom. way worse than india...neverscared
- death war distructionsted
- pr2 would have to live with the symptoms, after a decade or so the oxygen cylinder becomes his best friend and he just kills himself.sted
- @pamp Define the "other side". Because if you mean people who actually understand science and realize that dumbfuck skeptics protesting basic safeguards..garbage
- ..enabled a mutational reservoir scenario and that's why we're still dealing with this shit?garbage
- "COVID believers" is absolutely moronic, and the only "personal affront" is I still can't believe that humans are capable of such stupidity.garbage
- Case in point: pr2 said something but I didn't read it, and leave them alone because I think they might be developmentally disabled. Not a joke.garbage
- @garbage
Yes, the other side is non COVID skeptics. COVID believers to put it in simple terms. I can't dumb it down more than that.palimpsest - Words have meanings.
Get hooked on phonics, kids.palimpsest - Case in point:
Garbage seems offended by term COVID believers. Because it's wrong to believe that COVID is a very real and serious thing?palimpsest - Or because someone will always have something to complain about?palimpsest
- I think we're misunderstanding each other. I was saying the fact that we have to say "COVID believers" is stupid.garbage
- And the if the ignorance of COVID skeptics only hurt them, I'd not have to care about them. But it hurts us all.garbage
- prQmonospaced
- @palimp when I called you bobo I actually meant you act like the old robo, but you played yourself againgrafician
- btw "covid skeptics" are both far-left and far-right, everything in between is normal, centrist common sense
but the few dictate the majority 'cuz fuck allgrafician - I don't know how Bobo treated you, what goes on behind closed doors is none of my business. If I bring back sweet memories, that's on you.palimpsest
- You had a chance to speak up earlier but chose to put your tail between your legs. Now you're yapping up a different tree.
Congratulations.palimpsest - Big Pharma would’ve lost billions. Oxygen tanks instead of masks. Massive death counts. People dying from asphyxiation for decades become the new normalmaquito
- “then enough people would get the virus that it stopped being a threat.” Sure, just like the bubonic plague. You should try History instead of Philosophy.maquito
- HIV kills 1 million people every year. COVID19 already killed 3.3 million in less than 1 year and a half. Maybe it’s time to stop producing condoms, right, pr?maquito
- grafician-1
oh and one more thing: just because some of us got the jab and are protected, doesn't mean we shouldn't care anymore about the issues of this pandemic
I'm starting to see this trend emerging with those vaccinated not giving a fuck anymore now from their privileged positions
fuck you for being a jerk if you act that way
p.s. yeah I'm mad, the stupidity and the level of disrespect is getting to me today
- some of us are pillaged despite not getting the shot, so you might want to put brakes on your benevolence as we really don't need your embrace.pr2
- pr2 you're included in the "level of disrespect" section
again, why are you here? you bring zero value to this forum so fargrafician - dude, you posted an incoherent ramble 2 posts up. why are YOU here?pr2
- [what the F is my brain doing hen i proof read my shit? should be: "privileged"]pr2
- your math is off again you idiot, it was 1 post upgrafician
- *when [fuck it, i'm going to sleep now]pr2
- and you judging posts in here when you attack everybody with your crazy comments...grafician
- bro, you failed your math class. it's ok, just don't bring it up in the public.pr2
- we be pillaged, mateynb
- @nb being this long on QBN you think you seen a lot, but this place always keeps on giving...smhgrafician
- stupid fuck, it's 2 posts back, his math is solid prQmonospaced
- dmay0
- why the fuck, would people downvote a link to science data and a graph?pr2
- becasue it's an estimate and therefore speculative nonsensehans_glib
- though i disagree with their methodology, the fact that there are people who attempt to do this sort of stuff IS worth considering.pr2
- pr2 stop just stop, again, your comments and views are junk, keep them to yourself
go sleepgrafician - Pr2, from that same link, the projected death rate is 3x what you've been quoting for months now.robotinc
- And you still won't consider the long term effects on survivorsrobotinc
- Robo, the only thing that concerned me is mortality rate, which stays the same at around 0.4%.pr2
- LOL prQmonospaced
- Ramanisky21
Launch this cunt into space.
- Nairn5
Just tried to book my shot - fucking 30th May!
I've got tickets booked for Italy at the end of the month, motherfuckers.
(my partner booked tickets - super cheap, can change twice for free - there's fuck all chance I am going soon, and I suspect almost fuck all chance my partner will be going either, even with her full vaccination).
Going to pop in to the local vax centre with my appointment slip and an appropriate sense of barely-frothing middle class outrage and see if I can get some daily dreg ends.
- yeah, go everyday waiting for some extra doses. good luck, mateKrassy
- you'll do bst where they have the pfizer gunk, as that goes off quickly and they'll be keen to get rid.hans_glib
- ^ thisKrassy
- I can already see you in the parking lot.
https://i.imgur.com/…
Good luck!palimpsest - that's crazy, thought we were similar ages.fadein11
- Drive out to the country side. Make an appointment there.wagshaft
- Release the Karen!monospaced
- Just shop around. Here in NYC it’s totally booked in some areas, clear in others. My ex was fretting bc her area was totally booked and she found loads in minehardhat
- @fadein: eh? I think we are?
@wagshaft - LDN has lowest uptake rates across UK. SHoudl
@mono: 'zactly, haha!
@hardhat: I think I should be fine at a day's endNairn - @nairn, surprised you haven't been called up already, but I am mildly asthmatic so I may have got it sooner...fadein11
- Ramanisky24
- if true, I guess it's to prevent wide spread panic, but then it also fuels the pr2 "it's just a flu" crowd_niko
- The Wuhan Flu ain't no joke.utopian
- If this is true I'd say it's mostly just a failure of health systems to accurately record all the deaths.reanimate
- some say its a democratic hoax...only the smartest people though.neverscared
- Where is China on this list?TOMMYxGUNN
- ^I was about to ask that, it's amazing how easily we excuse china from any covid discussion latelygrafician
- ^"we" as in everybody, not only on QBNgrafician
- Because we know what ever data China gives out is full of shit, so why include it ?Gnash
- niko, if you were not a dum-dum, you would look up at flu mortality before making stupid comments like that.pr2
- of course nuance of data is perpetually lost on cavemen like yourself.pr2
- Yeah ok 60k on a bad year with no masks and no measures vs 2 million covid deaths with semi- draconian measures. yup flu is worse. grunt_niko
- cavemen haha. what a clown.monospaced
- son, let me guess, you never bothered reading the paper the graph came from. you never bothered looking at their methodology. am i right?pr2
- cretins like you don't even understand the basics of punctuation and the purpose behind quotation marks in a statement, much less science.pr2
- the reason why guys like you perpetually sit in shit in their pants is because you don't understand the relativity of danger.pr2
- flu with it's 60k death would easily turn into 500k+ if it was x3 of covid in death and 3x covid's transmissibility.pr2
- wrongmonospaced
- correctpr2
- nopemonospaced
