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- oey_oey1
A friend of mine made a Sputnik Trip and now is pissing neon green.
- ********7
NEW DELHI — With a devastating second wave of Covid-19 sweeping across India and lifesaving supplemental oxygen in short supply, India’s government on Sunday said it ordered Facebook, Instagram and Twitter to take down dozens of social media posts critical of its handling of the pandemic.
The order was aimed at roughly 100 posts that included critiques from opposition politicians and calls for Narendra Modi, India’s prime minister, to resign. The government said that the posts could incite panic, used images out of context and could hinder its response to the pandemic.
The companies complied with the requests for now, in part by making the posts invisible to those using the sites inside India. In the past, the companies have reposted some content after determining that it didn’t break the law.
Source: the New York Times
Fuck.
- utopian2
Bleach marketed as miracle COVID cure in Florida
The potentially deadly chlorine dioxide solution, marketed as "Miracle Mineral Solution," recovered from a Florida home is typically used for industrial water treatment.
Marketed through a nonreligious church.- Mar a lago?monospaced
- This story could've gone into multiple thread. - Florida is Whack - Religion - America is Fucked, etc...utopian
- Donald Trump thread - Associate to White threadutopian
- we should let them test it to make sureGuyFawkes
- Police shouldn’t have ignored them and let them get one with administering it.monospaced
- nonreligious church?pango
- Yeah, my brain skipped a lymph, what is a non religious church?Ianbolton
- Darwin award contendersjagara
- non religious church is a cultmonospaced
- drgs2
Distance does not matter. If indoors, you're equally at risk at 60 feet as at 6 feet
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/…
https://www.pnas.org/content/118…- this is why I don't let people closer than 61' near meGuyFawkes
- Oh ffs. Never getting back to normal :/Gnash
- a few major factual errors within the first 4 paragraphs... just saying as i'm reading the paper.pr2
- tons of formulas but the science in the paper is flimsy - they don't ever bother providing definitions for such crucial factors as "mechanical ventilation"pr2
- moreover many papers they reference ae very old (in covid "years) so the findings within are long invalid.pr2
- so, blah paper but thanks for sharing!pr2
- Equally at risk whether 60 feet or 6 feet? I call nonsense. Why not 6 miles or 6 feet? Use your brian you morans.TOMMYxGUNN
- utopian1
Staying 6 feet apart indoors does almost nothing to stop the spread of COVID-19, MIT study finds.
- lol
what a circus !Krassy - business insider is shit, but the study is interesting and based on common sensesplash
- ya if you're in an enclosed area for a long period of time. the virus will travel to where you are eventually.pango
- don't stay indoors with other fuckers for too long if you don't have to.pango
- lol
- maquito5
^ Just wait until the virus mutations learn how to completely dodge humanities’ efforts to go “back to normal”...
We’ll have to get used to COVID’s mortality threat while going “back to normal”, or in the other hand will need to embrace adaptation, respect, humility and reason.
This is far from being over.
- x3 mortality of flu is not that far from normal. the problem is of perception not reality on the ground.pr2
- Yeah, my uncle died from this “flu”, and fuck off.maquito
- fuck off with your anecdotal propaganda. i know more people who had covid than there is sand in my kid's playground and almost universally they had it light.pr2
- fucking imbecile - way to kill a possibility of any meaningful discussion.pr2
- who the fuck you think dies of flu each year? yeah, someone's uncle, someone's aunt, someone's gradman or grandpa. selfish prick.pr2
- Watch out for karma, pr2. I mean, for real. Have a good night.maquito
- “Possibility of any meaningful discussion” Really? You really think I did that? Id have a hard time trying to stop myself from beating the shit outta you, germ.maquito
- Glad you got your mug and shit up there Patryk. I would love to kick your skinny ass. Y a tomar por culo.maquito
- c'mon, c'mon guise, a little civility.renderedred
- Working remote... is all i want to do. Sod going to office and wasting time on overpriced commutes, or breathing in lung fulls of pollution.shapesalad
- Working remotely sucks big fat donkey balls. The creative process suffers when you miss those random interactions and everything has to be scheduled to a teamsTOMMYxGUNN
- CallTOMMYxGUNN
- If you work independently, then yeah I get it, but for those of us who work in teams, it's fucking crippling man. This last year has been brutal to my sanity.TOMMYxGUNN
- Random interactions? Like having people peering over your shoulder why you think through creative problems, and have them criticise and interrupt your work.shapesalad
- Random Interactions? like people through stuff across desks, having to listen endlessly to what people watched on Netflix, or hearing about how they got drunk.shapesalad
- No thank you. I'd rather be alone for 8 hours, so I can be with millionaire investors, Stanford lecturers and MIT scientists via Podcasts.shapesalad
- I'd rather be alone all day so I can create and experiment and try out ideas without the worry of someone over seeing what may well be shit...shapesalad
- ...but I need to try out ideas and think through things, without out people chipping in and saying this and that and derailing it all..shapesalad
- ..or making me feel uncomfortable to try out visual ideas. Plus working remote = 2nd monitor for stock/crypto charts and making extra $£€ on the side.shapesalad
- Well each to their own, I much much prefer working alone.shapesalad
- You sound fun.TOMMYxGUNN
- "i know more people who had covid than there is sand in my kid's playground and almost universally they had it light" is PURE ANECDOTAL BULLSHIT.monospaced
- That same sandbox that he’s buried his head way, way in. Good luck with everything I hope your kids stay safe pr2_niko
- pr2: "fuck off with your anectodal propaganda," then proceeds to give his own anecdotal propaganda...sarahfailin
- hey pr2. when is this antibody gonna kick in?pango
- one would think that by saying an anecdotal statement, intelligent people would see pointlessness of such statement...pr2
- statements.. but then it would be asking for the hamsters in some people's brains working overtime.pr2
- you're pointlessmonospaced
- utopian3
FFS - They are now burning Covid bodies in public parks they ran out of room to to give a proper cremation. Delhi builds makeshift funeral pyres as deaths climb.
- :(Krassy
- https://edition.cnn.…grafician
- "But the real number, experts fear, could be up to 30 times higher -- meaning more than half a billion cases."grafician
- "estimates Covid fatalities could be underreported by a factor of between two and five -- meaning the real death toll could be close to 990,000"grafician
- Fucking hell so sad. All this information and technology at our fingertips and instead of using it to fight this, help each other and stay safe, we use it to_niko
- ...spread disinformation, personal agendas and in the end just end up fucking ourselves thanks to dudes like pr2._niko
- Not sure why it got so out of control there, lax government, people gathering for festivals, no access to hospitals or vaccines, the mutated variant..._niko
- ^huge countries are a pain to govern, even when you have solid gov, now you see what authoritarian govs and corruption does to a country...so so so sadgrafician
- this and also Brasil! Also this must have happened in China too, but they covered itgrafician
- ^ for sureKrassy
- Not willing to think about the US if Drump won again, you guys down there got lucky you had election year, for sure!grafician
- nah, nothing lucky; the vaccination efforts were underway regardless of election yearKrassy
- niko, if they indeed had 500mil cases, they would be over the hill with the pandemic. "Use your brian you moran."pr2
- It's like wuhan in at the start of all this, and just goes to show how it should be taken seriously. Even in UK, we still need to realise how close to thisshapesalad
- sort of situation we are in.shapesalad
- autoflavour7
living on an island, far away on the other side of the planet, you often feel like you are missing out on the rest of the world..
yet at the moment, there is no where else I would rather be.sure its a bit overkill when a single case can cause a 3 day statewide lockdown, and yes, not being able to leave the country feels a bit like being grounded.. but when I look at the the rest of the planet.. eeeew.
hope you guys make it
- I always thought you were located in Germany for some reasonGuyFawkes
- I was for 7 yearsautoflavour
- I miss Berlin, but given the current state of things, I miss the Berlin I knew.. which is gone for everautoflavour
- Yeah, I was gonna say that Berlin is a bit of a shit sandwich at the minute, along with the rest of Germany. They really cocked up the response this time.Continuity
- sounds good to be in island at this time! always wanted to see the old castles with their ghost stories there. (-:api
- yep, good location where you are.shapesalad
- api2
Israel Examines Heart Inflammation Cases After Pfizer Shot
(Bloomberg) -- Israel is examining dozens of cases where people experienced heart inflammation after receiving Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE’s coronavirus vaccine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health…
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Lexikon: Myocarditis is an acute or chronic inflammation of the heart muscle tissue.Young people are affected it looks like. Speculation: The dose may be too strong for the young whose immune system reacts even more strongly.
At the moment it is not yet clear if there is a causal relationship.
But i think it's good when we know also the possible risks so we can make vaccines more secure in the long run.- Oupsy......erm...let... call it Trial and Errors.ApeRobot
- Any news about sputnik? No signs of super power or crocodile skin?ApeRobot
- @Ape sputnik is a mess: https://twitter.com/…grafician
- Krassy0
- All viruses insert their genetic material into the cells they infect, but it generally remains separate from the cell’s own DNA. This is awful.maquito
- I even feel worried just to being commenting on this thread :|maquito
- "About eight percent of human genetic material comes from a virus and not from our ancestors, according to a new study. "grafician
- https://www.scienced…grafician
- the study is not new, it's from 2010 but the facts are well known by now. So basically we're collecting viruses, adding covid-19 to the collectiongrafician
- https://medium.com/m…grafician
- grafician, be careful as spreading science doesn't go well on this board.pr2
- correct pr2, only cherry picked information that supports a mortality only view of the virus is acceptable. Any mention of long covid, MIS-C, or other covidrobotinc
- ... complications will be ignored and insults will begin.robotinc
- eryx2
First shot of AZ in the bag. Bring on the side effects!
- trooperbill1
had the oxford/astrazenica jab yesterday feel like ive got the fucking flu today - everything is effort :(
- Nearly everyone I know in our age group(ish) experienced the same, myself included. Was very surprised how AZ kicked my ass for a day or so. Then fine.fadein11
- i had no after effects except for a dead arm and an extreme case of the 'munchies' ...Bluejam
- I got off easy, it would seem for most it's 24h and a bit stiff the following day.kingsteven
- you both have AZ? friends who had Pfizer were fine. It was like flu but bearable and no reason not to have it I may add. Was just surprised as I usually crackfadein11
- on when ill, but could do nothing for a day, slept for half of it.fadein11
- p.s. obvs not everyone gets these effects, but loads of my circle did.fadein11
- Yeah AZ it's been mad with my GF and a couple of friends who had it bad how quickly the side effects subsidedkingsteven
- yeah had the AZ oneBluejam
- Continuity1
Right. Just got the first AZ jab.
Now, let's see if I develop any mutant super-powers.
Or grow a couple of extra penises out of inconvenient places.
- I pretended to 'need' a nap.. make the most of it!SlashPeckham
- Haha, nice!
Well, just in case I get laid out like trooperbill tomorrow, I made sure to stock up on paracetamol and comfort food.Continuity - Well, if you grow an extra penis on your back, it'll make slow dancing a lot more entertaining.Akagiyama
- Ianbolton0
Soz, rant incoming...
Just had a phone call with my sister who's very much against this vaccine because she has friends who know people who have had serious side effects. One person (she knows) is now in intensive care. She then starts crying saying she loves me and doesn't want anything bad to happen to me. What the fuck? We can see exactly how fear spreads. She suggested I waited until we knew what it's actually doing to people.
I recognise there are always going to be issues. I used to take anti-depressents and there's probably a lot of evidence to suggest they did nothing but make me more subdued, losing the vigour of life, but the way mRNA vaccines works is a absolute game changer in the future of humanity. We can now irradicate huntington's disease and stickle cell disease and have the opportunity to play god in various other ways. I think those moral boundaries are more the questions we need to be focusing on here as using gene-editing techniques could eventually be our own demise. But is a vaccine for COVID something that we should be worrying about, especially when many companies are producing them not for profit? I feel sorry for my sister, but I also question whether im being naive.
- Ask her if she ever wore a No Fear t-shirt. Better yet, find a picture of her from the 90s wearing a No Fear shirt and ask her ‘what happened to you”********
- The way mRNA works is NOT a mystery, as it's working in you all the time naturally and always has.monospaced
- I honestly believe that no vaccine would have been put into use if it were going to cause widespread harm. No company wants that on their hands, profit or not.monospaced
- And for the record, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. At all. Huge misconception.monospaced
- It’s not gene editingmonospaced
- The harm from u getting vaccinated or from you experiencing covid is equally small. You sister overreacted, but so did you.pr2
- That said, i actually want everyone who's afraid of the virus to get vaccinated so that with that level of "security" we can move on.pr2
- There are many ways to tickle our immune system to prepare for the virus, not all vaccines are created equal and not all have the same dangers.pr2
- dr2 has spokenGuyFawkes
- I just wish people here listened to the Dr2, rather than sharpening stakes or lighting torches for stakes burning.pr2
- Harm is equally small? Go fuck off you ignorant cunt. Your bullshit is so tired.monospaced
- Vaccines in rare cases MAY have caused a couple of deaths. The virus has killed 3+ million and climbing. Equally harmful my ass, you clown ass bitch.monospaced
- I'm aware my sister overreacted by crying thinking I was going to die, but I understand why she did that. I'm unhappy I overreacted because I find her...Ianbolton
- position predicated on fear and lack of understanding. Mono, I'm currently reading Codebreaker and the mRNA developments is mind-blowing.Ianbolton
- You got vaccinated based on what if not fear? Just curious.pr2
- Because it stops the chances of dying completely, even if they are low chances. And it slows the spread of the virus. Fuck you, pr2.monospaced
- mono, you can't respond to the longer post below where i explain how you are wrong?pr2
- You did no such thing.monospaced
- pr2, I think you're missing the point of my post. My family is so divided at the moment. That's my general fear. I don't have time to constantly...Ianbolton
- question everything I read. My sister does, to the point she just sees the world as a playground of power and manipulation.Ianbolton
- I'd rather put my trust in something to negate the issues of dying of actual COVID which I had last year - it was grim. I've also lost close friends to it.Ianbolton
- watch out, pr2 might say the death of your close friends are not only acceptable and expected, but also anecdotal fear mongering shit. Because he's a cunt.monospaced
- Ask her if she ever wore a No Fear t-shirt. Better yet, find a picture of her from the 90s wearing a No Fear shirt and ask her ‘what happened to you”
- monospaced4
"The harm from u getting vaccinated or from you experiencing covid is equally small." — pr2
In all seriousness, how ignorant of reality do you have to be to actually believe this and write it?
- nice downvote, pr2monospaced
- It depends who you're speaking of. When I had covid it felt like I'd taken a couple tequila shots and that's about it. Someone with some comorbidities tho...MondoMorphic
- he meant "risk" not harm, I guess? who is pr2 he only posts in this thread? why is he still here?grafician
- He is interested in psychology and philosophy. He also thinks everyone else's brains are like hamsters’.maquito
- In the other hand, ironically, he looks pretty much like a hamster. Also. if I may, he looks like a mentally disordered, disturbed, lonely man.maquito
- Chiquito, solito y triste.maquito
- He also only focuses on mortality, and not the ample evidence of long term complications because that goes against his
"nothing to worry about" mantrarobotinc - I think something like 10,000 people died from it each day still. And he’s still got his head buried deep in his own shitholemonospaced
- pr2-5
Re mono's above comment.
Mono, the closeness of your perception is just colossal.
You equate a number of deaths with risk factor which is laughable.So let me try to explain it to you in terms that maybe the two brain cells you poses don't overheat from exhaustion.
VAST majority of deaths from Covid are in old and very old group. If you are 65+ you SHOULD get a vaccine as the risk is just too great. But unless i'm talking to a bunch of rocking-chair grandpas and grandmas here, the risk of death or serious complications in this age group (25-45) is equal to flu (actually below 30, it's lower than flu).
Some young people taking the vaccine might be doing so for the communal good (the virus is negligible to them but they are so-call protecting the "at risk" population) but even that argument must be seen through the prism of actual community spread. Where i live in NYC, 75%+ of population already had the virus so who are those youngsters taking the vaccine protecting?
But again, if fear or lack of understanding how the immune system works prevents your from living a normal life and if you think getting vaccine will somehow save you, then by any means go ahead get one as the risk is low. (of course, i would prefer if people instead sat down to learn about how their body works, but i know it's an impossible dream).
- 75% of NYC had the virus? Let’s see your math gymnastics on that one********
- yes, and don't leave out the undeserved condescending undertonesmonospaced
- If you think the vaccine is just to save the person getting it you’re the one who is missing something. You’re ignoring the global devastation somehow.monospaced
- nb, mortality (on conservative side) is 0.5%. Queens covid deaths: 9700. Out of population of 2.36 mil, is what? Is what? Go ahead.pr2
- 82%. Sorry for not being specific enough and using a lowered estimate.pr2
- Is the death rate exactly the same everywhere and at every time? NYC got hit hard right at the beginning before they knew how to treat it.yuekit
- as i said, i'm using "conservative" number - meaning when people die more due to all sort of reasons.pr2
- Well if you used a lower number suddenly it makes no sense at all because over 100% of New Yorkers got the virus right? :)yuekit
- So 0.5% is close to the minimum death rate possible in this case. But you don't know that it wasn't 1% or 3%....again, only in NYC not everywhere.yuekit
- 75% of NYC had the virus? Let’s see your math gymnastics on that one
- oey_oey3
I know some people that think like a sort of social darwinism way but they don't grasp what that even means so I can not even throw that to their faces...
"only the old will die"
"only the people that were already dying are affected"
"the people that died they are meant to go anyway"
"only the people that are already sick with other diseases die"and so on...
seriously, WTF?!
- the irony at times is the same people who argue there are too many people on earth are the same folks who are emphatically pro mask and pro vaccine.hotroddy
- Lol good point_niko
- what has one thing to do with the other?oey_oey
- So ... if you’re okay with people dying from COVID by the millions you’re REALLY just saving the planet? That’s a new one. Rich and stupid AF.monospaced
- The irony is that people who are anti vax and anti mask aren’t actually advocating for a healthier planet. They’re just assholes.monospaced
- mono is a case in point.hotroddy
- Except I’m not.monospaced
- You can argue there are too many people on earth and emphatically be pro mask and pro vaccine. Because life is complicated and there are no easy answers.jagara
