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  • mg333

    Fuck... I've been paying attention but maybe I haven't looked at the info out of NYC too closely (maybe as a result of my intentionally avoiding the news during the day, but somehow I had no idea NYC's deaths were already over 3,000, and that 599 died yesterday.

    And they're rapidly approaching the day of peak death with like 2,000 deaths or so in a single day? (I heard that a couple days ago).

    Man, that makes me feel lightheaded. We've had only about 307 deaths total in Illinois.

    • Wait, wait wait. Your news blackout was supposed to start yesterday man.webazoot
    • By comparison, about 3000 people die of pneumonia a week in the USA. And about 400 a week by the flu.robotron3k
    • 1500 people die each week in US from guns & vehicles.BustySaintClaire
    • So, last week, COVID killed more than pneumonia, flu, guns and vehicles combined?dmay
    • about 2x more, dmaymantrakid
  • utopian8

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  • Ianbolton0
  • neverscared3
    • Just wait until we get to remdesivir. Still unproven + the FDA granted an exclusive 7 year contract to Gilead "bleeding from the anus" is a common side effect.kingsteven
    • the trump cure .. bleeding from the anus .. sounds authentic.neverscared
    • 60 tablets for $2.50, follow the money.robotron3k
    • derp robotard, that's only if you self-medicatemonospaced
    • 2.50 for anus bleeding ..hell of deal.neverscared
    • blood plasma might be the way to go news coming from s.korea.neverscared
    • Bobo thinks a little bleeding anus might do a few of ya'll some good....robotron3k
    • bobo must now he has it chronicly.neverscared
    • it´s a inherent feature of every trump supporter,.neverscared
    • I guess that will certainly give new meaning to the term 'red state', when all of Trump's supporters walk around with red skid marks.Continuity
    • and the red cap with the retardy slogan.neverscared
    • American Capitalism Amen®utopian
  • kingsteven1

    Started jotting down a Daily Mail style "Things that kill you with COVID-19" last night... any i've missed?

    AGE
    SEX
    DIABETES
    HEART DISEASE
    - Atrial fibrillation
    OBESITY
    BLOOD TYPE
    HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE
    CANCER (in last 5 years)
    CHRONIC KIDNEY DISEASE
    DODGY LUNGS
    - Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
    - Chronic emphysema
    - Bronchitis
    - Smoking
    - Vaping
    - Asthma
    - Air Quality /NO2
    STROKE
    DEMENTIA
    CHRONIC LIVER DISEASE
    IMMUNE DISORDERS
    - Immunocompromised
    - HIV/AIDS
    - Chronic stress

    • QBN?Continuity
    • "As of 2020 it is believed there are only 40-50 people worldwide still suffering from QBN (the disease caused by the NT virus) 99% male in the 35-60 age groupkingsteven
    • stupidity?Bluejam
    • ^ if it's thought to be slightly higher in dementia patients because they forget to wash their hands + touch their face i don't see why not...kingsteven
    • ... or the 'i'm still shaking hands and we can take it on the chin' typeBluejam
    • Syphilis and gonorrhea maybe can work against it! Doctors are looking for test subjects.sted
    • ^lol qbn @ksMrAbominable
    • Hows the chap doing who said he 'definitely' caught it shopping at Tesco?
      Could be another for the list, depending.
      webazoot
    • Slightly heartened to realise I'm not the only one who scans the Mail each day. I hate myself for it, but it's a useful go-to for by-the-minute newsNairn
    • and I know I've said it here before, but imo it's the flipside of the same bullshit coin The Guardian's onNairn
    • "DM style" lolhelloeatbreathedrive
    • I fantasise living in a just society where the DM and the Guardian are high-comedy and the stock market is a larf. if only the world wasn't full of pricks.kingsteven
    • 5Gmonospaced
    • ^ how did i forget about 5G! the answer was in front of (and inside, and all around) my face.kingsteven
    • You forgot drinking alcohol. I read somewhere that is also could potentially kill you with COVID-19utopian
    • Oh no....SEX?dbloc
    • The covids give you the gush https://www.youtube.…kingsteven
    • hmm i thought i read all the early research with SARS relating to HIV research was people with HIV had better responses due to weaken immune systemsdeathboy
    • hence trying to protein shake shit up and fake a weakened immuno response. since so far research seems to state covid19 main strength is turning immune systemsdeathboy
    • I haven't seen any data about HIV infected with it. Be curious to see that.deathboy
    • @db increased chance of infection, increased chance of co-morbidities, low CD4 count (if not receiving treatment) - it's a speculative list though...kingsteven
    • Daily Mail style (ie. broccoli causes cancer) - studies have shown that increased risk is on multiple co-morbidities so it's unlikely that having just one willkingsteven
    • kill you without being life-threateningly severe without the virus.kingsteven
  • ayport1

    hydroxychloroquine golf buddies

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/…

  • PhanLo3


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    We have the power to rebuild you with hydroxychloroquine.

  • PhanLo0

    • facepalmOBBTKN
    • Why blur the moron? They're posting publically on Twitter and they want attention. Let's give it to them. Wtfnb
  • kingsteven2

    Researchers in Germany used estimates of COVID-19 mortality and time until death from a recent study to test the quality of records. Their results show on average only 6% of actual SARS-CoV-2 infections detected worldwide: Germany has detected an estimated 15.6% of infections compared to only 3.5% in Italy or 1.7% in Spain. Detection rates are even lower in the United States (1.6%) and the United Kingdom (1.2%)

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/rel…

    First results from a large scale randomised serological test (lab antibody testing) in Germany should be released today:

    https://www.facebook.com/hbergpr…

    Will me interesting to find out how the serological test results compare to the first paper's numbers...

    • https://edition.cnn.…
      Half of corona carriers do not know it and dont bother to test
      drgs
    • ^ other studies i've seen say 4 in 5 untested the first study i posted demonstrates it could be as high as 3 in 250 (in the UK) the serology tests in germanykingsteven
    • (best testing in europe) are expected to be at least 1 in 3kingsteven
    • another study in italy exclusively of 60 healthcare workers that didn't believe they had covid-19 showed that 40 of them actually did (the active virus)kingsteven
    • the first study is speculative but as its working with deaths/ not cases the numbers should remain relative between countries (even if they're proved to be off)kingsteven
    • Good for Germany, they must be the first to actually do the serological testing?yuekit
    • so these numbers point to an overall mortality rate of less that .5% no?_niko
    • around .3% ... given that the worst report from Italy was 1.8% CFR of a town with confirmed 70% infection it seems unlikely to be that low but then again thekingsteven
    • demographics may not have been in their favour.kingsteven
    • there's a few places doing it atm yuekit, but the german study is the biggest so far and i think its lab testing, not the pin-prick antibody test kits.kingsteven
    • Germany are being advised by one of the best virology experts in the world (who discovered SARS) ...Krassy
    • ... and his input has really helped combat the pandemic and has helped shape a proactive sensible approachKrassy
    • ...Christian Drosten:

      https://www.ndr.de/n…
      Krassy
    • If they are right about this, I guess it would put the number of infected somewhere between the Imperial and Oxford studies?yuekit
    • But if they are right, what would the implication be? It would mean several million infected in the U.K. and tens of millions in the U.S.yuekit
    • How could you ever hope to control/contain something that has spread that widely? It makes the current measures seem somewhat futile.yuekit
    • i get the feeling this german study, like the oxford is about introducing theoretically valid high counts to emphasise the importance of mass antibody testing.kingsteven
    • it has good implications in a lower CFR but bad in that it could be used to validate lifting of distancing measures to facilitate herd immunity...kingsteven
    • ie. validate the idea that even the current death count is based on a 'bank' of high-risk individuals. or the idea of a 'reasonable' death ratekingsteven
    • I have a friend in New York who has tried to get tested 3 times. His fever is not high enough. Lots of people turned away.BH26
  • monospaced1

    I was talking to the owner of a hospital and clinic network yesterday (my fathers boss) and he said they are about to start testing for immunity. A simple blood test will be able to indicate if someone has had it and is producing antibodies for full immunity. They are talking about issuing cards that immune people would carry with them moving forward.

    • i would love to get one of those wee pinprick tests. they probably wont be available in the UK (outside testing healthcare workers) for a while.kingsteven
    • Spain has already begun blood testing peopleOBBTKN
    • They keep mentioning this as a way forward but afaik they haven't actually worked out a reliable way to do so. Unless this is Newstoday?webazoot
    • @mono that's great news! much needed and essential in analyzing and combating the spreadKrassy
    • It’s reliable. This isn’t theoretical. They are rolling it out today in California from what I understand.monospaced
    • The bottleneck isn’t the test, it’s the staff available to handle each one. Blood must be taken, transported to a lab, spun in centrifuge, etc. takes 15 min eacmonospaced
    • Gotta figure out how to make it efficient and easily accessible. They are doing it for medical staff FIRST and exclusively.monospaced
    • there was a bizarre paper last week that showed that antibody testing didn't work for detecting early infections. i'm still not sure why they thought it would.kingsteven
    • i've seen nothing to suggest the pin-prick test kits for antibodies aren't accurate either. hopefully it'll eliminate a lot of the speculationkingsteven
    • This is coolnb
    • Should be some highly visible patch to be stitched onto clothing. Maybe in yellow?Gnash
    • I was thinking similar gnash. But more like a big international thing with T-shirt’s and wristbands. Not for profit.monospaced
    • This isn’t about detecting early infections. It’s about detecting immunity after recovery.monospaced
    • Good news if correct for sure.webazoot
    • This is what I'd read about the tests yesterday; https://www.theguard…webazoot
    • Hard to say it, but that‘s how China did it. First it was a card, then they moved to an app.uan
    • Issuing cards for immune people?!?GTFO...robotron3k
    • @uan China is running a propaganda of lies and misinformation. Tune out, dude ;-)Krassy
    • A yeah, I forgot! So let it be an American Idea then;)uan
    • ^ and German, and everywhere probably in time. yes mono, i know the tests are for immunity but there was some misleading news articles on them based on a studykingsteven
    • that was to determine if they could detect antibodies in early infections.kingsteven
    • Imagine exposing yourself so you can get the card so you can get back to bussing tables at a bar.nb
    • The card is for medical staff who are immune so they can save your dumb ass bobo. Fucking idiot.monospaced
    • This is promising and hopeful.utopian
    • Yes it is.monospaced
    • And yeah. Imagine recovering and ... GASP! ... going back to work!monospaced
  • drgs0

    Norway and Denmark are reopening kindergartens, schools and one-to-one services (hairdresses etc)

    Sweden was never in lockdown

    • There was a report published today in the UK that suggested closing schools has little benefit https://www.bbc.co.u…webazoot
    • Wake me up when Germany re-opens gyms.Continuity
    • In the past week, Sweden has had 300% increase in deaths! Time to reassess the no lockdown approach.Krassy
    • Sweden will be a mess.PhanLo
    • Finland are closing their borders to Sweden and their numbers are starting to spike.PhanLo
    • RIPmonospaced
    • too soon.utopian
    • both have populations of 5-6 milllions. much easier to transfer responsability to citizens and know it will work.uan
  • shapesalad1

    Watch from around 9mins in for the reality of this proposed miracle cure Trump is Trumpeting.

    • Interesting. This guy's hair is almost as bad as mine right nowyuekit
    • Holy crap - the hairGnash
    • This guy has talent, he's got something to say, why is he wasting it on YouTube?robotron3k
    • What else should he do to reach as many people as possible and possibly make good $ with it?NBQ00
    • Free advice is only worth the money you paid for it.monoboy
    • He's a doctor, started doing these case studies videos to help student doctors, they are usually written with support of Professors and med educators.shapesalad
  • webazoot0

    Doctors have found tentative evidence that seriously ill coronavirus patients can benefit from infusions of blood plasma collected from people who have recovered from the disease.

    Hints that the therapy may help have prompted US doctors to trial infusions in the outbreak in New York and similar studies are expected to start in the UK in the coming weeks.

    https://www.theguardian.com/worl…

    • So you're saying taking blood of a young, healthy person and giving it to older, sickly person works? Is this correct.robotron3k
    • it’s only the part of the blood where you will find antibodies. it‘s not like in medieval paintings or movie images you might have.uan
    • you need recovered patients to harvest their blood for antibodies. and its not a cure. it‘s an additional tool they can use to make patients survive.uan
    • robo morontank02
  • imbecile6

    Donald Trump Has Stake In Hydroxychloroquine Drugmaker: Report

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/d…

    The president has repeatedly touted the anti-malaria drug as a coronavirus treatment despite a lack of medical evidence.

    President Donald Trump reportedly owns a stake in a company that produces hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malaria drug he has repeatedly touted as a coronavirus treatment even though his experts say there’s no strong evidence it works.

    • Well what do you know...Who would've ever guessed?utopian
    • Of course he doesdbloc
    • Didnt u know? Pelosi is already drafting up a Hydroxychloroquine Impeachment documents against the President. Pelosi said, "Trump is going down this time!!"robotron3k
    • really? is that an impeachment offense?neverscared
    • dony boy wanna make some bucks ..no matter what.neverscared
    • That would be so fucked up. He’d need to be stripped of all shares and punished in some way.NBQ00
    • Let’s hope Trump has a stake in beer.instrmntl
    • "reportedly" GOT HIM.Hayoth
    • Amusing how Trump's biggest cocksucking supporters will dismiss any atrocity he commits as long as he can't be punished for it. Ethically fucked cunts.monospaced
    • Oh fuck off. It's a generic drug. The science behind it was due to a study conducted at the tail end of the SARS outbreak, which is why SK used it.monNom
    • There was a ton of speculation about it as a treatment (due to the study and positive SK results) more than a month (2?) before Trump said anything about it.monNom
    • I'm all for holding people to account for inside dealing, but this is just intentionally ignorant.monNom
    • as ethically fucked as the cheerleader who fucks pornstars during his wife is pregnant.neverscared
    • He owns mutual funds (managed by someone else) who happen to have 3% of it's holdings in the pharma company. You guys fall for fake news every day.lambsy
    • I probably do toomonospaced
    • not fake news.neverscared
    • Clickbait junk. Snopes it.noRGB
  • utopian1

    Just when they thought it was safe enough to go back into the water. U.S. Eyes Second Coronavirus Outbreak in China

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/us…

  • utopian1

    Why could go wrong?

    Trump removes independent watchdog tasked with overseeing coronavirus emergency funds

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/p…

  • neverscared-1

    The W.H.O. really blew it. For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?

    this is from the cheerleader

    so the W.H.0 said its a hoax?

    • their strategy of "lets wait and see, no need to panic yet" really worked.Beeswax
    • https://www.zerohedg…BustySaintClaire
    • zero hedge the breitbard bleedings anus.neverscared
    • W.H.O did also say too much negative about masks.api
    • W.H.O. is still saying that masks make no difference. there's no evidence to say they're wrong.kingsteven
    • https://www.theguard…kingsteven
    • The WHO reviewed its position on masks in light of data from Hong Kong indicating that their widespread use in the community may have reduced the spread...kingsteven
    • There was no evidence that wearing a mask in the community prevented healthy people from picking up respiratory infections including Covid-19, it said.kingsteven
    • ^ from todaykingsteven
    • Yes, what I read of their study in close contact even if you've coverd your mouth/nose the particles still can get in through your eyes.
      Space helmets maybe?
      webazoot
  • NBQ001

    Damn, high numbers in France (over 1400 dead) and USA (almost 1400 dead) today and day not over yet.

    • latency in reporting, numbers now include those that died in care homes over the past few weeks.shapesalad
  • grafician4

    "Air pollution linked to far higher Covid-19 death rates, study finds"

    https://www.theguardian.com/envi…