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- Gardener0
- 20 something models are in panicBeeswax
- Finally something to smile about.face_melter
- shapesalad0
Independent Inquiry.
- kingsteven0
so when are we gonna call it? countries with strict lockdowns in the first wave seeing spikes in deaths. europe case count now back at june levels for a couple weeks and deaths IMO acceptable (if not negligible)...
i'm still erring on the side of caution, working from home, masking up and barely leaving my house but to walk the dog. i have friends asymptomatically isolating and out of isolation after being alerted to contact through the track and trace app, neighbours isolating for a week because one of their kids had a cold... even the more liberal news networks can't seem to find epidemiologist opinions that would have made the Swedish guys seem like saints a couple of months ago...
obviously a different story in the vast obese plains of the new world... but for europe (and UK... sigh) folks, where you at?
- a graph for good measure
https://i.imgur.com/…kingsteven - - curfew in place 9pm to 5am, stay within 5km of your home except for permitted reasons
- 666 lives lost
- satan knocks, should I let the bastard in?sted - AU is a weird one man, at least if the countries only experiencing first peaks now weren't just staving off the inevitable they'll benefit from better treatmentkingsteven
- 30-40 deaths per day, over 1k cases daily with 14-20k tests - but real cases would be about 10x of that, we test too little
restaurants open since 1st Sept.grafician - We closed the country for around 100 cases per day back in Spring...grafician
- Now we're more like Swedengrafician
- Vacations and opening schools are mistakes, these 2 options will boost the cases a lot this Fallgrafician
- i really don't think it'll make much difference graf. a lot of things contributing to the lack of deaths, but the biggest by far was the ineffectiveness of thekingsteven
- first lockdown in most countries. the stricter the lockdown the bigger the second wave of deaths...kingsteven
- a graph for good measure
- utopian0
Key coronavirus forecast predicts over 410,000 total U.S. deaths by Jan. 1: ‘The worst is yet to come’
- Why are you dancing. This is awful.********
- Not a trumper here, but the COVID death thing is becoming more and more bullshit. My moms best friend's husband died of a heart attack and the death...toemaas
- certificate said COVID! She went back and raised hell at the hospital. Last weekI said 4 people went for tests and had to leave the line and they got email...toemaas
- results back saying they were POSTIVE even though they didnt take their scheduled test. Make that 3 more people I know this week.toemaas
- You numbers guys constantly scream facts, facts, facts. But these numbers are becoming harder for me to believe now that I actually know people that are...toemaas
- getting rolled by the bullshit.toemaas
- @toemaas
+1000Krassy
- Why are you dancing. This is awful.
- microkorg6
Vitamin D people!
TLDW?
Clinical trial in Spain where Covid admissions (Where they knew the patients had a vitamin D deficiency) to hospital with covid complications were split into two groups. One group was given normal treatment for covid, the other was given the same treatment but with also high doses of Vitamin D.
2% of the VitaminD group had to be submitted to intensive care.
50% of the non Vitamin D group had to be submitted to intensive care.0 of the Vitamin D group died.
2 of the non Vitamin D group died.- Can you link scientific studies instead of YouTube videos? YouTube is not a source.********
- The links to the studies are in the video description. This docs videos always backed up with studies (linked) in description.microkorg
- The study: https://www.scienced…microkorg
- yup D's a big one, w/ k2moldero
- Problem is synthetic Vitamin D hardly works. Best is the sun.NBQ00
- I've been taking a vit D3 supplement on top of my normal multivit since march because I figured it couldn't hurt and may have benefits.BaskerviIle
- -1 nb
What's with cunts here suddenly thinking they're owed Work on other people's posts?Nairn - Well i’m fuckedscarabin
- Once a day..
D3 125mcg (5000 IU) / Zinc 30mg / C 1000mg
(D3 needs food to absorb properly) ;)sea_sea - Calcifediol is not the same as Vitamin D, it's a metabolized product and equating the two is incorrect. There's also a biiiig difference between a pilot studyzarkonite
- and a clinical trial... as per their own conclusion: "... larger trials with groups properly matched will be required to show a definitive answer."zarkonite
- These are very interesting hints, but we're pretty effing far from being able to say vitamin D does anything at all...zarkonite
- I was just asking a question, geez.********
- There was good JRE vid on Vit D months back. Been on 20k mg since.Phrenological
- ^ Rhonda Patrick episode? yup +1000
shes great, one of my favorite guestsmoldero - its so damn sunny here in Los Angeles. You would think our numbers would be down if Vitamin D was the answerFawnDog
- LOLzarkonite
- Can you link scientific studies instead of YouTube videos? YouTube is not a source.
- Nairn3
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Yup - I suspect that sunshine-derived Vitamin D is at least partly responsible for the lower death rates during this second upswing. If that's the case, then shit'll hit the fan when the clouds roll over and we get deeper into Autumn.- This doc has said all along it's the reason why there were such high deaths and hospitalisations in the UK of minorities...microkorg
- ... that people of colour cannot process enough vitamin D from the amount of sun we get , even if they are outdoors everyday.microkorg
- He's shocked and pissed that the Gov and WHO are only now realising this.microkorg
- Got manflu the other week, stil coughing, so that's me now on 2000iu a day all through winter, plus whatever VitD is also in my Multivitamin.microkorg
- how much should we be taking? i ramped mine up from 25 to 50 µg a few months back + multi vit and vit D in cod liver oil caps...kingsteven
- i really think we're at the end of this in the UK, and it's gonna become clear in hindsight that even Sweden's measures were over the top.kingsteven
- £4 for a pack of vita-d tablets in Morrisons supa. On offer currently.shapesalad
- Mm, I'm not sure at what point 'flatten the curve' became 'CLOSE ALL THE THINGS!'. The one thing we should've done is stop x% of inbound air travelNairn
- @king - as I've been saying to everyone, forever now - I don't think we can call a 'winning' strategy on any of this until this time next year.Nairn
- It's all still to play for! :)Nairn
- We should have closed borders first sniff of this. Asian countries and Baltic states that all did this had minimal cases.microkorg
- our UK overlords sat and watched it unfold in Europe for weeks and ignored all advice to lockdown early. Air travel yes, but also general lockdown.fadein11
- 1000's undoubtedly died unnecessarily because of our British 'exceptionalism'.fadein11
- Not enough sunshine in Brazil! Also Spain and Italy. It's not that easy, I would say.SimonFFM
- @kingsteven this is my daily intake for the past 7 months.
D3 125mcg (5000 IU) / Zinc 30mg / C 1000mg. D3 needs food to absorb properly btw.sea_sea - nice, i had a check and 65µg ATM. cant find it now someone posted an article a while back about how we may be underestimating how much we need tenfold!kingsteven
- Cool, from Oct to May, the Basque Country is under a grey cloud mass, I get lots of vit D from food, but would love to get a bit of sun too...OBBTKN
- 5000iu a day on the D3?!microkorg
- Beeswax4
Another article about Vitamin D as a potential treatment for Covid-19
https://elemental.medium.com/a-s…
- whatthefunk4
- What a mad movement...PhanLo
- Dey demands der freedumbutopian
- What on earth would prevent you from wearing a mask?BusterBoy
- IQ, mostlywhatthefunk
- lol, I'm too fed up of the fucking masks********
- The problem with masks is that people are not used to them.palimpsest
- too dumb for a mask during a pandemic...u get handcuffed is kewl with me.neverscared
- utopian1
- Fake Newsnbq
- I wonder how many idiots reposted this without reading itscarabin
- mathsOriginal369
- maquito0
Oxford and AstraZeneca's COVD-19 vaccine trials put on a hold after a UK participant had a 'serious' suspected reaction to the leading shot candidate.
- maquito0
Meanwhile...
Pharma firms unveil safety pledge over vaccine.
“The firms, including Pfizer and Merck, said they would only apply for regulatory approval after vaccines went through three phases of clinical study.
(...) US President Donald Trump has said he wants one available in the US before November's election.“
- maquito1
@scar
Monstrous pharmaceutical giants like Merck, Pfizer, Roche, et al., tend to have huge commissions of researchers, scientists, biologists, etc, who, in addition to commissioning and politically managing their "products" (molecules, drugs, pathogens ...), must maintain Clinical Trials published in scientific journals. Any “product” can only advance to the next phase only when the FDA, the government, and many heavy scientific committees agree that the “product” can do so.
That said, and sorry if tldr, the chances of a vaccine being approved and sold with potential harm to millions of people is very, very low. In this case (COVID vaccine), they realized it was dangerous in phase 3 (clinical trials); a stage that usually takes a group of about 1,000 patients and that ideally should last UP TO 3 YEARS. That is the time it takes for a “product” to prove that it is not harmful, or that it is harmful only to the extent required by the FDA.
In any case, the only one responsible for a vaccine passing phase 3 and being sold to healthcare providers, even if not only hazardous, but even deadly, will be the President of the country which allows that phase 3 departure.
- Sorry, I was wrong. Not “the president of the country...” but Trump. “The FDA is led by the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, appointed by the President“..maquito
- ********2
I'm so tired of the emergency orders for politics. So asinine when viewed in comparison s showing blatant special Interests. If any rioting and protesting is justified it would be towards these bullshit lockdowns forcing ppl to be slaves to gov controls. If anti slavery and equality truly a thing for basic rights it is not getting any love.
- I would be honored to watch your deep state rant and Covid dance on TikTok.
Send link plz.utopian - Is that really how you value things utopian. Platform ent. There is no deep state. It is mass political bullshit. Easily seen in all the hypocrisy emergency ord********
- So many elected officials of non substance trying to guess the script they need to keep employed while fucking so many ppl********
- If any real tragedy in America is happening it's not racist crap it's basic freedoms how people interact freely********
- the racist crap - as u coin it like a retard, is what keeps people away from acting peacefull. . fuckin trumpist talking shit all day this deathboy loon.neverscared
- +1 neverscared
Hang on to your hats, boys, another IQ-draining post from 'All Lives Matter' dethboi.Continuity - cuz db thinks what caused all the riot is justified.pango
- Fuckboy, The Basketcase Libertarian. A new animated series coming to Netflix this winter.face_melter
- nothing to see herecanoe
- You're "so tired" of it, yet do nothing about it, apparently you're a fairweather libertarian, I guess?ben_
- "because ob viously how knowing where why hypocrisy erm ord what now has always became the truth that blind you from shut up mom i'm in a making a point on integarbage
- rnet i'll be down stairs in a minute jeez you guys have no idea why its like to have ur own personal deep state"garbage
- 'Downstairs'? More like upstairs from the basement, amirite?Continuity
- "my mom's house got flipped why for on its end so the basement is now on top it called social progress which becomes a construct not to hard understand if you ggarbage
- and sim ply put do what research you need note to self the napkins from subway are too rough must buy toilet papper"garbage
- I'm pissing myself laughing, over here, you'll got his unintelligible arse gravy down to a T!Continuity
- Speak deathboy - http://www.nonsense.…ben_
- @ben lol, he should probably use that. Maybe he'll spit out someting legible.garbage
- @deathboy, if you don’t like it you’re free to leave********
- Glad to know I’m not the only one who recognizes what a stupid lowlife piece of human shit he is.monospaced
- ha its so nice to hear you say my name so much. i get the rioting now. thanks********
- but while u guys in your social media bubbles thinking your doing the "right" thing by your chosen lord of the fly leaders you are missing the bigger picture********
- when will this end? its already nonsense nad been going on over 6 months. not to mention the real fall out and deaths are going to be in economic consequences********
- see how many people starve worldwide, shortages, crazy business sectors you never think about until you find no one is supplying that now. and its all politics********
- a fuckin huge powergrab that still surprises me that a governor has absolute power of a state liek a dictator with no council or democracy********
- thought more balance f power but apparently they can even use emergency powers to go over other sectors of state they had no power in.********
- and what really declares emergency? can a governor just claim emergency and be untouchable. will these gov be held personally liable in lawsuits?********
- will it be criminal against them or are they protected like cops. its all a bit long and the tooth and needs to end. think most ppl know it********
- oh yea never. racist crap = fake racism projection. Shits real as fuck. Wake up you fuckin idiot. Can you name one fuckin racist popular issue of late?********
- and for extra credit you could think about real racism with 1619 projects or CRT, or even classism as apply traits or values arbitrarily and who really is********
- the bad guy here peddling such nonsense. I hear no white people saying black people are shit or need to apologize, but success and white needs too... yea thats********
- what you call corner store crackhead nonsense. you can get all deep into it like a like any religion. personal beliefs one thing. but coercion force or gov********
- coercion and funding of belief systems are just a no no and will get clipped********
- And how do lockdown rules breed equality or basic rights...********
- LOLpango
- Lol? Is that all u can offer?********
- He meant to say "LOL, didn't read."garbage
- That would be less intelligent garbage. More your style. I know he's smarter than you. And he isn't a fake political account********
- If everything you were was subdivided into a horse race, I wouldn't know whether to bet on your ignorance, racism, or how much you bore me. Morning jog, peacegarbage
- Oh sorry, I meant "hello i t hink u really dumb and probably get confused by doors because why get a book to read brb gotta move legs fast"garbage
- What a fucking idiot.monospaced
- db, work on your portfolio, you're wasting valuable time here.ben_
- uh huh. all terribly childish insults and no rational counter arguments. makes one think some people really have no independent thought********
- what did i post like ten comments and yet not one of you has anything to say related to the posts. just childish insults and always complaining about amount********
- of posts like you are so special and shouldn't be troubled by others ideas. and what bugs me most is your simp attitude and lacking ability to respond********
- its pretty sad. like if you are representatives of an average than fuck humans might as well get there heads stuck in the mouse trap they create********
- but your just a vocal average of stupidity the top 5% overcomes to always benefit your ignorant lives. such is life********
- I managed to read 4 of your notes, and it almost pains me that you don't get why nobody takes you seriously. Nobody reads the shit you spew.garbage
- Oh I ran out of room for "fart". Fart.garbage
- Way to prove my point. U never undeliver********
- Shit, forgot to translate, That was pretty insensitive. "My U alway deliver ps fart also becaus e how paradigms shift but there always a deep brown state"garbage
- (honestly this feels like bullying at this point, but you're such a moronic hate-sack that I don't mind)garbage
- Hahaha god damn. garbage delivers!Continuity
- If we are all average, where does that put you deathboy (and before you say it, I'm sure I'm well below average)?ben_
- Shut the fuck up yurimonmonospaced
- sigh... children. insults but nothing to show this isnt more about politics than science. i know garbage has trouble with language. think hes a bit special********
- but you others who see fit to "say my name". and clearly insult like you got the point really don't say anything********
- I would be honored to watch your deep state rant and Covid dance on TikTok.
