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- neverscared-1
big shopping centre stuff openend today since the full on shutdown from 16 march in austria + it´s gettin quite liney up
- neverscared4
- thank you fashion industryrenderedred
- all those people not looking like they can afford LV, they just browsing?!grafician
- Fuck Louis Vuitton, French faggots.********
- they were the first to switch to making medical masks when the pandemic hit tho'grafician
- priorities********
- This is a line for free masks.imbecile
- +grafician
- Lot's of textile companies are manufacturing face masks now. Profit margin is huge. Better than making crocodile skin hand bags.Beeswax
- crocodile skin facemasks so hot right nowmoldero
- @i_was ... What is your problem with the French... A complex? Something about your mom?gonzalle
- Beeswax-1
As of today total confirmed cases in the world is : 3,392,771
Let's say the actual number is 100 times more than this.
That still leaves 7.5 billion people who havent met a virus that doesnt have a vaccination yet.
Quarantines are giving us time to get prepared for the next 2-3 years.
Places should open very slowly, and not to protect people from the virus but to spread the virus in a very slow pace.One day we will all have the virus, we can't really run away.
- Don't wanna get this one I'm good, will wait for the next onegrafician
- You can surely delay the infection by staying in quarantine and self isolation. I would rather get the virus "later" than sooner...utopian
- ...A vaccine will be discovered or a drug will be used to minimize the effects of the disease, without the worry of actually suffering or dying.utopian
- https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
- Yeah, I'm in no rush to get this virus, either, thanks.Continuity
- microkorg-1
233,500+ corona virus deaths worldwide.
26,000 of them in the UK alone.The UK accounts for more than 10% of worldwide corona virus deaths yet we are only 0.87% of the world population.
Thanks Boris & Co.
- Unfortunately need to add 30-40% more real cases from nursing homes and other sources not counted yet :/grafician
- real numbers should be over 40k unfortunately :/ from various sourcesgrafician
- graf they added in some last week, still not all. as i said last week they're cooking the books.kingsteven
- Incompetence more or less. We're not in the Conspiracy territory yet.grafician
- Italy still reviewing their numbers, they were overwhelmed a few weeks ago, expect the same in countries with high numbersgrafician
- And Boris, the PM, got it! and gave it to his pregnant GF!shapesalad
- And don’t forget China, no numbers from thereGnash
- grafician0
Sweden reaching R0 <1 without no serious lockdown measures, they just announced.
1 April - R0 1.4
25 April - R0 0.85
Today still under 1!Their numbers: 22.000 infections /2.650 deaths
But they're only 10 mil people, most of people high income and educated, good healthcare system, they could afford this scenario.
- That’s positive newsGnash
- Sweden is a pretty restrained society generally. They're just not all gas no brakes.
Not such a good outcome here in the UK. We should have locked down quicker.PhanLo - France and UK numbers could've been avoided... When in Spain and Italy we're locked down, looking at UK pop. doing nothing was v. sadOBBTKN
- utopian2
Kushner Airlift Moves Millions of Masks, But Details Are Secret
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/t…
Meanwhile Covidiot #1 is preparing retaliatory actions against China.
- Continuity2
I suppose no-one wants to think about it, but we pretty much have to.
'What happens if a coronavirus vaccine is never developed? It has happened before'
- https://66.media.tum…Bluejam
- Nahgrafician
- Its won't be developed.robotron3k
- Well... HIV’s Kaletra does not exactly “cure”, nor “kills” the virus... dozens of vaccines will be developed, but that doesn’t mean the virus will be controlledmaquito
- Perhaps, just like the influenza vaccine, it prevents and / or reduces the severity of the symptoms.maquito
- Big pharma will feast on covid...maquito
- There is always the disinfectant and light injections we can count on.utopian
- Beeswax0
A friend in my FB wrote this
"I think we are all totally confused by the amount of info and disinfo on Covid and I am extremely suspicious as we all are , of the narrative fed to us by the media, so to clear my mind I went and had a long conversation with a PhD cellullar biologist today who is working with her team and international virologist teams.
I asked her straight ‘Is there actually a Covid19?’.
She said she had worked with the blood samples from enough victims to say yes, and she spelled out the results.It was horrible.It is not a respiratory virus, it is a vascular virus.It attacks the blood and heart and the many victims’ drown in their own blood.This is why many patients die quickly. She has seen for herself through the microscope, I trust her.She said she cried when she first saw the test results.
Is it a transferable aerosol? Yes, most definitely.A proper mask is crucial, an N95 to N99, not the blue cotton things.Protecting the eyes too with either glasses or a full face screen.
This is a killer.
Yes many death certificates are actually Covid 19 and yes some are common flu entered as Covid which is confusing.
So, be careful, don’t risk your lives or the lives of others.Especially if you have high blood pressure and or cardiovascular issues.
As to where the virus originated she said they were as yet unsure and are still working with teams aboad.
Her team are working flat out on a simple finger-prick blood test.
She won an international prize last week for her research into this and it could bring the diagnosis forward by one week, which is a lot of time to rationalise treatment .
If I had a shred of doubt about this, I would not post, but this looks real.This is all I know at the moment."- That blood test sounds good, the rest of the info is known...grafician
- "A friend in my FB"********
- lol. fuck Facebook to source information.inteliboy
- "so to clear my mind I went and had a long conversation with a PhD cellullar biologist"yuekit
- ^ don’t you have one? I have 2Gnash
- To clear my mind I read a story on QBN that was pasted from Facebook as recounted by my non-expert friend who attributed it to an anonymous biologist.********
- so do you guys have a point other than dissing the source?Beeswax
- I posted this because it confirms the WP news that's posted here couple of days agoBeeswax
- How so? Can you point to a paper confirming that C19 is primarily 'a vascular virus' and that victims 'drown in their own blood', please?Nairn
- C19 has some interesting hypoxic angles, but that's absolutely not what your friend's friend's friend's friend is suggesting here.Nairn
- you dont drown in your own blood but your body does drown itself. Your body tries to fight the infectio by filling the lungs with fluid and protein....microkorg
- ... this lessens and lessens your lung capacity. Your veins/arteries around your lungs are told to clott and also restrict meaning less and less...microkorg
- .. blood flowing around your system meaning less and less oxgyen getting around your system.microkorg
- This can all happen within a couple of days and why people go downhill so fast.
It truly is scary shit that a completely healthy person can die within a week.microkorg - Perhaps your friend meant 'suffocating in their own blood'?Nairn
- https://www.theguard…Nairn
- That’s the high-altitude thing Everest climbers get, right? This virus is a bitchGnash
- Sort of - normally hypoxia is incredibly symptomatoic, but here it's not. One of the reasons hey've been having problems with ventilators, as they useNairn
- exhaled CO2 rates to dictate how they in turn work. C19 doesn't appear to significantly change exhalation, just fucks with oxygenation.Nairn
- monospaced1
Noticed some confusion about the stimulus checks. Some people believe it’s like a loan they payback, arguing it isn’t a welfare handout. They are wrong. It is in no way expected to be paid back. Ever. Not in taxes or any other form. Period.
- Hello, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in. It connects Brooklyn with Manhattan. Used condition. Only selling because I have a spare.********
- commis! :)renderedred
- No one here is spreading false rumors regarding stimulus payments. Who is your audience for this post?imbecile
- Besides, aren’t you returning yours? Kind of a moot point, no?imbecile
- Samesame in Britain - they're 'grants'. But - where do people think this money's coming from, exactly? Of course we'll end up paying it back, daft to think notNairn
- when I see people writing "commis" makes be cringe as those ppl have no clue how it is to live in a communist country...grafician
- ik we're making fun here, but there are lots of ppl that have no clue how the world works and quick to point fingers, we call those idiots.grafician
- also there's no free money ofcgrafician
- tip: don't fuckin return shit, just payitforward, lots of ppl needing help but won't qualify for those stimulus packagesgrafician
- I don’t qualify for one. And there are some people here who believe the myth it has to be paid back.monospaced
- What do you call government handouts that don’t have to be repaid? Forgot the word...monospaced
- Well this didn't happen before, so...handouts? No shame in getting free money.grafician
- It's just redistribution anyway, you pay taxesgrafician
- No mention of shame. It’s money for people who need it during a pandemic. It’s socialism at its best helping people. I’m all about it.monospaced
- I think the government should do more for the people like this. I think social welfare in a mass scale is essential to progress.monospaced
- Isn't it a bit too little to late? 1200 or 1400? That really covers anything rn?grafician
- It’s not great no. It’s not much at all. Once again I think there should be more welfare to people who need it in this global crisis.monospaced
- This is really addressing the conservatives who, for decades, vote against this kind of government support as a hard party line policy. That’s all.monospaced
- The same people who don’t like people getting free stuff when they can’t get it. The people who advocate for private medical and charter schools. Aka cunts.monospaced
- @grafician i was born and raised in a communist country fyirenderedred
- haha********
- Hello, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in. It connects Brooklyn with Manhattan. Used condition. Only selling because I have a spare.
- robotron3k-4
- it's going to go to 0 like magic ;)renderedred
- By Easter for sure.imbecile
- How accurate is the US coronavirus death count? Some experts say it's off by 'tens of thousands'Bluejam
- https://abcnews.go.c…Bluejam
- Yes, we now have 10s of thousands of covid deaths, and heart attacks, shootings, suicides, and drug overdoses have gone to zero in the USArobotron3k
- yup bobo, someone wanting to kill someone or do drugs and crime will respect the lockdown LOLrenderedred
- Like a miracle...it will go away!utopian
- PhanLo-1
UK is fucked thread. 5G NWO radiation weapons.- "Once governments take your rights away they don't give them back" - well, she's not wrong there, although that's the reason we didn't go full Italy or SpanNairn
- ..with our lockdown - because there was absolutely no legal precedence or existant social appetite for accepting such.Nairn
- so you guys have idiots over there too.
O_Opango - ... although it would seem that now we don't want lockdown to end
https://bit.ly/3foIM…Bluejam - as for this video, 3 random strangers regurgitate some shit they saw on twitter as fact.Bluejam
- Super minimal idiot fest for sure, but I did get a message from an old school friend along the lines of Bill Gates controlled flesh drones assisted by 5G.PhanLo
- yuekit0
Phylogenetic network analysis of SARS-CoV-2 genomes
https://www.pnas.org/content/117…
This is dense reading but interesting...about how different variations of the virus spread around the world. Apparently the type most common in Asia is actually not the original strain, although it probably originated in China at an earlier point.
- i read this one when it came out about a month ago, found it interesting but saw a few virologist folks tear it apart afterwards.kingsteven
- My main question is why different regions have been affected so differently. Could Asia have been hit by a milder strain?yuekit
- Many of the countries right next to China such as Thailand, Vietnam barely saw any deaths.yuekit
- that was one of the big criticisms about this diagram in particular. 'BAT' should be a short walk away from the rest of this cluster...kingsteven
- ie. it's so far away from any of the mutations we know of that it could be arbitrarily connected to any branch...kingsteven
- i've also read quite a few articles (a while ago now) debunking the 'two main strains' theories...kingsteven
- This one talks about three types, but I've noticed a lot of articles seem contradictory on this point, in terms of how many strains or variations there are.yuekit
- It is crazy to me though, Vietnam (with a land border to China) has zero deaths, vs. 70,000 in the USA. And Vietnam is not a small country, it has more peopleyuekit
- than the UK does. Thailand (where I am now) had the most exposure to travelers from Wuhan out of any country in the world. Months later, we have only 50 deaths.yuekit
- Can all of that really be explained by the virus just failing to take root here? I feel like if these Western countries the media would be paying a lotyuekit
- more attention to this.yuekit
- it seems thailand has about half the >65s of the UK, 9% obese vs 26%... i imagine that alone has a huge effect on symptomatic cases / deaths.kingsteven
- kingsteven3
Starting to see quite a few of these papers saying that lockdown in France/Spain/UK has not done anything to prevent the spread... When you look at the deaths it's hard to imagine it could be much worse.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/…
I'm fine with lockdown (for now) but I do think the idea that it's to help the heath care system being overloaded and protect old folks has been forgotten by the British public - From everything i've read it seems that limiting movement is the least effective (but most oppressive) of all measures and we're now well past the point where restricting people to their houses is effective in any way.
Here's a (quite old now) video which has a bunch of 'toy' models to demonstrate how hygiene/social distancing/lockdown affect a population...
I see family coming and going from 3 elderly neighbours houses, their adult kids wearing nurses uniforms while dropping off the grandkids... All my mates (with the exception of some customer service roles) are back at work - haven't seen a mask in weeks and few obeying the arrows and floor markings in shops.
If it's not lifted soon and emphasis shifted towards hygiene/ social distancing/ isolating the venerable we're going to see a lot more of these 5G idiots crawl out of the woodwork and 'the new normal' perpetuated by a majority of:
- "all lockdown protesters are stupid"
- "considering calling the cops on my neighbours"
- "i do no wrong" - submissive to authority (technically obeying the rules while potentially super spreading in a work and/or family context)- Again a case of "every man for himself" in the US vs. solidarity in other countries.grafician
- The death toll speaks for itself unfortunately. In Europe Govs moved the sky to keep the citizens safe and reduce as much as possible deaths...grafician
- US and UK took the arrogance road and thought their better, while citizens paid the price. Sad.grafician
- they're*grafician
- Anyway, we can't draw bottom line, this is not over yet by any case. Let's speak again after a yeargrafician
- think Sweden, Singapore, South Korea, New Zealand did a fuckin great job containing this, but each country is different, no best solution for allgrafician
- https://en.wikipedia…grafician
- it all comes down to how much the Gov respects its citizens, this crisis revealed this best this yeargrafician
- i think more than that graf it's the uk public's distrust of the uk public. the gov't getting away with all sorts because a majority of people think they'rekingsteven
- contestants on 'the great british lockdown'... the government would have to convince them to end lockdown so why would they?kingsteven
- You can't really go out and protest the Gov rn mate :/ we did that before, last year, we have a lefty Gov now that handles the crisis rather wellgrafician
- plus the economy is still ok here, just a 4% deficit now, might be 8% by the end of the crisis, but still manageable, nobody freaking outgrafician
- the UK gov't want to come out of this at an advantage, pre-brexit. aiming for herd immunity and lockdown is their current distraction and future scapegoat.kingsteven
- Just found out that the UK didn't closed borders even in this pandemic! I could actually come over for tea rngrafician
- Sorry, here in LDN it's still 70% wearing masks, socially excludiing and oing their thing, 30% not being total assholes but getting along with shit.Nairn
- If anything, I see complicit agreement with tabloid headlines that 'people are now scared to come out of their shells; rather than some overt want to normaliseNairn
- The response here was as british, poragmatic, in-authoriatian and as hapless as one might expect from the UK - but it was not some Economy at all costsNairn
- ...bullshit. Frankly, the reaction here was basically Sweden, minus degrees of class rubbing and remnant homogeneity.Nairn
- The UK is not spain, france, germany or Italy - unless we're talking class strife or miners, we don't as a rule have police beating the shit out of populaceNairn
- It's nuanced and flawed, but not some farcically-swiped stereotype from afar bullshit.Nairn
- +1nairnFax_Benson
- Oh thank God, because I read that back and thought "shit, I might have one cider too many to be posting coherently.." :)Nairn
- i'm not sure if your point was meant to counter mine nairn. i think the british are too good at lockdown to require it, social distancing as it was in the weekkingsteven
- I think I was aiming at grafician. I've read a few things recently echoing what you've suggested in terms of cost/benefit of measures taken, etc.Nairn
- leading up to lockdown was all that was required - as your comments exemplify ' lockdown' is now a national sport, a matter of pride...kingsteven
- ah, no - sorry, yes - I did mean you, where I referred to how I perceive things down here in LDN. I see general compliance, even if some people are workingNairn
- ooh, i see what you mean.
a paid for sport, at that.Nairn - this porridgematic you speak of though... is it like a teasmaid in design but for oats?kingsteven
- Gardener0
- what about the next custmerhotroddy
- What about sunshine?Fax_Benson
- Can this make your hair grow? - Muskutopian
- a giant petri dishhotroddy
- you can't drink fresh beverages there, hot in a minute, and sweatingOBBTKN
- but i can imagine all women in bikini after 5 mins, ummm, not bad at allOBBTKN
- Why do you all think a glass house is so hot inside? When the door is open. And it’s single pane glass. They are hot in summer.shapesalad
- @fax there is no sun in the netherlandsmilfhunter
- monNom1
Well this explains where all the N95s went. Evidently China started smurfing them around the world in January.
- yuekit1
The Covid-19 Riddle: Why Does the Virus Wallop Some Places and Spare Others?
Interviews with more than two dozen infectious disease experts, health officials, epidemiologists and academics around the globe suggest four main factors that could help explain where the virus thrives and where it doesn’t: demographics, culture, environment and the speed of government responses.
Each possible explanation comes with considerable caveats and confounding counter-evidence.
