America is Fucked
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- kingsteven2
If a patient arrived at an incredibly over capacity ER in the US with a lower respiratory condition, only 1 in 10 patients can receive treatment. Would the triage be on the basis of their ability to pay the $250k medical bills for a month long stay in ICU hooked up to a respirator? or their potential receptiveness to treatment?
I wonder because the US can do specialist treatments pretty much better than anywhere else on earth, but the idea of hospitals in the US working at 10x capacity just doesn't strike me as a realistic proposition unless it was 10 doctors working round the clock on one incredibly wealthy patient...
The one story that got me spooked about how things might turn out was early on in the outbreak when 25 out of the first 55 deaths in the US were from that one day care facility in Seattle. The families were reporting that the hospitals wouldn't even take in patients from the facility, some took their parents out and quarantined them at home while the ones that got severely ill were just drugged up and sent on their way.
I hope I'm wrong but it's so fucking retarded whats going on that I got thinking: maybe it's not entirely a financial decision to send people back to work? but a decision based on potentially coming last in the game of deaths?
Maybe Trump's advisers realised the US healthcare system can't mobilise its workers like China and Italy (and pretty much every other country in the world). Like someone has told him the difference between the steepness of the curve you could expect with stricter distancing measures at this point will make for a fairly negligible difference in deaths over the next 3 months when you can only actually treat 1 in 10... and Donnie's pulled the old "this game is stoopid! you guys are stoopid! i'm going home!"
- Rumors that ill people are turned away in the USA is incorrect. Hospitals here never turn them away, and we do have free Medicaid, housing, etc for the poor.robotron3k
- I didn't suggest they would be turned away robo. doctors have an oath to protect after all. but as in italy there are limited resources. who gets them?kingsteven
- oh in the life care centre cases? i definitely read that many died awaiting transfer to hospital. i cant believe numbers are still going up.kingsteven
- https://www.telegrap…robotron3k
- Article states, "Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities."robotron3k
- In China many were turned away and as much preferred to die at home than makeshift hospital... Not really sure u have a pointdeathboy
- US got a capitalistic healthcare system where most other countries got a universal/free healthcare. So yeah its not in any way ideal in this situationNutter
- robo, i'm saying even with italy recording fatalities the US may be far higher + db that's going to happen everywhere with the elderly in the US is it the poor?kingsteven
- allthethings2
As a white progressive American who is 58, I felt like America was fucked starting in about 1980. Of course, any black person could tell you that it was fucked from about 1600 on.
I'd estimate that two-thirds of the country wants to do the right thing and help fight the pandemic, but that only half the country is smart enough to hold the current administration responsible for the things they've done and not done to make this worse. We're dumb fucks and we deserve what's happening to us.
- i feel that the gradual dumbing down of america began after wwii. in the 60s there was the last revolt sort of and in the 80s it finally broke...renderedred
- Eisenhower was trying to warn, nobody listened.renderedred
- After the checks go out that "smart half" will drop by half.robotron3k
- you're right bobo, you guys will love socialismrenderedred
- It's called Americanism, not socialism.robotron3k
- that's a fair assessment haethered
- it's all good bobo, make up a term so you feel better ;)renderedred
- Americanism: n. Defined as Socialism performed by an American.zarkonite
- renderedred3
you can say whatever you want about china and communism (at least what they seem to be running now), but they do have less cases, they have "flattened" the curve, they cordoned of entire cities if needed, tested huge amounts of people and most importantly their economy did not collapse. america? capitalism? c'mon, two weeks of a virus and your people are freaking out. your president is ready to sacrifice people for economy. more importantly YOUR PEOPLE are ready to sacrifice their health for a few dollars. you call that the most developed country in the world? i don't think so.
you guys are fucked, i hope you realize this now and change something when you get the chance.- If you believe their lies, of course they have "flattened" the curveMaaku
- the propaganda is working. LOLKrassy
- c'mon guys, a little hope?renderedred
- imbecile2
- Why TF is DeJoy still in that role?akiersky
- The same dimwitted "MAGA Freedumb Fighters" want less government...as well as less money spent to fund the USPS and other national public service institutions!utopian
- nationalise amazonkingsteven
- Ramanisky22
- LOL
3rd world problemsPhanLo - lolmaquito
- So she lives in a shithole red state that doesn’t give a fuck about its people. That’s Trump America right there.monospaced
- LOL
- Ramanisky21
- i think showing his visage is horror enuf and they will run away superfast.neverscared
- Paul, tell us the story about how your wife left you and why your kids never want to talk to you.face_melter
- Only 9 in that magazine? I'd love to see him try to fire that thing without a stock.formed
- closeted gay for sure.sarahfailin
- PhanLo1
Man eats leg
-- "..of woman who'd just been killed by a train", in case you want the full horror but don't want to watch thisNairn
- it also wasn't the first incident of someone taking a limb from one of the 14 incidents involving a train, some other guy had taken a hand back to the shelter.PhanLo
- holy fuckYakuZoku
- what season of walking dead are we in now?_niko
- PhanLo2
G O D ' S - A R M Y
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- whatthefunk1
- Duke Nukem?NBQ00
- self destructedPhanLo
- They're not sending their best.mathinc
- Thoughts and prayers.Continuity
- utopian2
Venezuela is always sending us their best!
- First hotroddy now this kid!_niko
- to be fair, Venezuela isnt sending anybody, Venezuelans are sending themselvesautoflavour
- mother probably fled Venezuela as the kid was falling into the wrong crowd and was hoping for a better life.autoflavour
- imagine you arrive in a new country, and a few months in you're already stealing stuff and shooting peopleHAL9001
- HAL90015
"Flashback: Russian asset Tucker Carlson spreading Russian propaganda talking points. I wonder how much Putin pays this sniveling little traitor to betray Americ"
- HAL90012
Deranged MAGA hate preacher screams "You can't be a Christian and a Democrat!" and then threatens Biden: "Get out you demon! Baby-butchering election thief! You ain't seen an insurrection yet! It’s gonna get worse!”
https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeV…
America is turning itself against itself. Good luck!
- "Shithole country"nbq
- 3rd worldin'PhanLo
- dude has a full on hate boner showingautoflavour
- LOL.. the hand slapping right at the end.. kinda gay imhoautoflavour
- Ramanisky22
Just a nice little tourist visit or is it Antifa? I don’t fucking know.
- PhanLo2
'In a better place'
Texas dont giiive aaaa fuuuuuuck
-- that's a great leappango
- apparently there was a little trampoline just out of shot.PhanLo
- Lol @ trampolineskinny_puppy
- Ramanisky20
- she probably has a clit the size of a penis.milfhunter
- drop her to Ukraine or Middle East. let's see how tough she is.NBQ00
- God asked her to buy military weapons to defends her family against the bad people. Its normal.HAL9001
- Also, Trump is sent by God. So it all make sense. Totally normal.HAL9001
- Christian terrorist cell. I wonder if her kids are molested by their religious leaders.monospaced
- Find it really bizarre that these people idolise a guy who grew up in a city protected from any reality and definitely never wore any camo.PhanLo
- neverscared0
Blow to Biden as poll shows Trump in lead for 2024 presidential election
Trump ahead 47% to 43%, worrying some Democrats as others caution avoiding ‘mad poll disease’Donald Trump has nudged ahead of Joe Biden in national polling for the 2024 presidential election, a survey published on Saturday revealed, a day after the US president branded his predecessor as “despicable” at an event in California.
The Wall Street Journal poll shows Biden with the lowest approval rating of his presidency, a finding broadly in line with other recent studies that have sparked concern in Democratic circles less than a year before voters go to the polls.
It shows Trump leading Biden by four points, 47% to 43%, the first time this survey has shown that the former US president is favored in a head-to-head test of the likely 2024 White House matchup, the WSJ said.
- Who will democrats blame this time when they lose?nb
- This new Hunter crap isn't helping. I think he'll step aside.formed
- Waiting is a good strategy, regardless. The D's can just wait and watch the GOP circus.formed
- If they brought in Newsom, which I think there's a good chance, he's win in a landslide. It would be a breath of fresh air for D's and any undecided.formed
- Trump voterz vote for Trump - specifically!
Not for other GOP candidate. People just don't get this.grafician - We all get that captain obvious.monospaced
- Whois "we" if Trump wins again?
Are you THAT dumb?grafician - Your country can't really come up with decent candidates, other than dino saurs like Bi den and Tr umpgrafician
- @nb, You blame the voters if they're psychotic bigots.CyBrainX
- We is the majority of the country that doesn’t vote for him. Derp derp. Stop acting like you understand this better than me.monospaced
- ApeRobot2
Interesting interview on how KGB influenced the USA to destabilize it in the long term.
Listening to this make me wonder if they are also behind the mind virus called "wokeism"- Russia and China. They want the West to be weak and faggy.crazyprick
- because they in return are also very very weak?grafician
- Maybe weak, but not faggycrazyprick
- Pretty obvious_niko
- hydro743
- Travis who?monospaced
- Football player on the Kansas City Chiefsbulletfactory