America is Fucked
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- zaq6
- BusterBoy5
Unfortunately the many thousands of peaceful protestors are providing unintentional cover for the criminal looters...in just the same way "very fine people...on both sides" gives (intentional) cover for racists and bigots to pop their heads up.
- Chaos get more eyeballs, in return chaos sells more ads. It's called Capitalism, look it up!utopian
- elahon3
This shit is giving me an anxiety attack. I hate that #POSPRESIDENT so much.
- Bennn5
DENVER right now :
- we should see more of these.
here is the night stream:
https://www.youtube.…sted
- we should see more of these.
- grafician6
Fair?
- neverscared4
Much of the government may be broken down but it's good to know the Department of Metaphors is fully operational.
- I do this on halloween when i run out of candy to give. I can't face the angry kids when they are all hopped up on sugar.capn_ron
- jfc wtfwhatthefunk
- PonyBoy0
how to protest powerfully w/out placing a hand on your neighbor or community...
- this is whats called protest.sted
- This looks like a swell day at the park to catch a tan and sip on a smoothie.utopian
- This is what one calls a demonstration, not a protest.utopian
- How convenient and easy to ignore it would be that people would protest without disturbing or affecting you in any way, wouldn't it?sr_rosa
- same thing, 'topes
https://en.wikipedia…PonyBoy - nobody is affecting me person in one way at all, sr_rosa. However the poor in the hoods being destroyed are being fucked over...PonyBoy
- *personallyPonyBoy
- @utopian same thing just with different numbers? :)sted
- If you want more destruction, guyz— torch your own homes and cars—take pictures and post w/your phone (your last possession) and show everyone how woke you are!turk_182
- I'm PonyBoy btw... can't seem to login using PB on my phone :/turk_182
- Maybe you can do it, I do not own any home or car.sr_rosa
- Regardless... can’t you empathize w/ those suffering the destruction that destroys their already decaying neighborhood?turk_182
- Of course. Nothing I commented suggests otherwise. Unlike you, I didn't say what people protesting should or shouldn't do. Just remarked that in order to be...sr_rosa
- Which one will politicians take notice of?Chimp
- ...noticeable, a protest has to be inconvenient. Pretending that protests that are not annoying, inconvenient, or disruptive are better shows a lack of empathy.sr_rosa
- I didn't say what people should / shouldn't do, sr_rosa. I pointed out you can protest w/out hurting your neighbor / hood. Sad that seems to upset some of you.turk_182
- sr... to destroy one's neighborhood in anger is just stupid... it doesn't put ME out at all btw... it puts out primarily the poor people in those hoods.turk_182
- Yes, you did. You say people should not hurt others, and in order to do that they should behave like the example you give, judging those who do differently.sr_rosa
- And we can discuss morality of violence against people and things, just don't deflect to create a false debate.sr_rosa
- You know what? I'll accept that & gladly admit to what you're saying as it doesn't involve more death & destruction which is what you seem to be advocating, sr.turk_182
- No, I do not. I reiterate my disposition to discuss it if you want. But if you just keep trying to guess what I think, there is no dialogue.sr_rosa
- I'm 'deflecting' to create what 'false debate'? I'm advocating for a more peaceful approach of which the vid shows ... nothing more.turk_182
- You, however, are arguing that it's somehow an inconvenience for me or that my reason for wanting a diff. approach is that it's 'disturbing or affecting' me...turk_182
- ... when in fact my mind is on those in the neighborhoods being destroyed. You are 'guessing what I'm thinking' too, sr... and you're wrong.turk_182
- First you create a false dicotomy: good protesters vs bad protesters. When contested, suddenly it is about empathising with the poor. Then it is about...sr_rosa
- there is no false dichotomy as there IS good protesting and then there is destructive protest. I know you know this... not sure what you're up to here tho. <3turk_182
- ...not willing to destroy my own possessions. Or being woke. Then it is about me supposedly advocating for death/destruction. All deflections and false debates.sr_rosa
- It's like you're arguing for the sake of arguing... and you've got a cute way of avoiding the fact you got caught indirectly advocating for violence.turk_182
- If you think violence is ever okay toward your neighbor / their property (who hasn't done shit to you) then I can't go much further w/this conversation.turk_182
- My point, again, is that there is no good and bad protests, because you can judge them by many factors, and just because some are more palatable for you,...sr_rosa
- ...they are not better.sr_rosa
- violence toward people who merely live or have a biz isn't 'palatable' for me, sr—again it sounds like you're cool w/violence when it's not necessary.turk_182
- Well, have fun with your false debates, that you seem pretty capable to have all by yourself. I didn't advocate for violence, and stated the opposite repeatedlysr_rosa
- I merely showed a protest can be held w/out violence—zero false debate there. You chimed in and turned something upbuilding into this odd conversation, sr.turk_182
- utopian6
Rioting, looting and protesting is the symptom not the cause.
- SlashPeckham3
America isn’t fucked thread
https://twitter.com/tomakeupwity…
- nb6
2.3 Million people live in Brooklyn.
Only 3000+ protesters (not all from Brooklyn, but most.)
Of those 3000, only a few are violent, looting or rioting.
Most want peace.We stand in solidarity against racist cops and a power structure that protects them at the cost of human dignity and even life. I recognize that people are angry, fed up, and are losing control. I understand the violent reaction but I don’t support it. I don’t think it will solve anything or bring us together. But I understand why some people feel they have nothing left to lose, so they rage and hope to find peace through violence.
May we all find peace.
- ernexbcn1
I'm all for the right to protest, senseless killings like this should not be tolerable and need to stop.
But some people will take advantage of this rioting for their own political motives, for example this paid shill of the venezuelan government wearing a Hugo Chavez t-shirt on a protest on DC, who runs an "altenative media" outlet:
The venezuelan regime security forces have killed thousands of people, for instance just from this UN investigation 7 thousand people in 2018:
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/05/7…
So this guy for example has nothing to say about police brutality when he willingly decides to ignore the ones happening in other countries he likes to support, be it for similar political ideals or because he's getting paid for it.
- name: Max Blumenthal editor of "The Grayzone"ernexbcn
- and this why I don't sympathize with antifa, they love oppressive governments that kill their own people, they don't give a fuck because it's leftist regimesernexbcn
- to me they are the same kind of cunts as the MAGA ones, only from the opposite extreme of the political spectrumernexbcn
- thats why i dont sympathizse with maga cops coz they actually start the riot.neverscared
- Yeah if I had to guess I would say this guy is on the take from various governments. He comes across as a paid propagandist.yuekit
- Ironically his dad Sidney Blumenthal was close to the Clintons and had pretty much the opposite worldview, very pro American and pro war.yuekit
- damn had no ideaernexbcn
- "some people will take advantage of this rioting for their own political motives, for example this paid shill"...shaft
- You're on to something, very close, unlike most—thanks to having grown up in a Russian satellite regime—but you're still mistaking effect for cause.shaft
- I ain't wrong on this one, you cannot condemn police killings selectively like this asshole doesernexbcn
- I mean who this guy is. He's a regular on RT, come on. That can be a sign of one thing only.shaft
- "In Italy, fascists divide themselves into two categories: fascists and antifascists."
- Ennio FlaianoNairn
- pango2
riot thugs protecting police officer?
- https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
- Or protecting the restaurantGnash
- no the back story was that little guy got separated from his friends. but a group of protesters got together to protect him.pango
- Put your pants back on, I was kiddingGnash
- or they don't want to mess with Sicilians ;)_niko
- Dude you gotta write something ridiculous when you are kidding! Otherwise it seems like something you might really say.pango
- mg333
Robo,
I agree with your comment - nobody in their right mind is on the side of the police unless they’re just completely racist, worthless idiots, but the thing to remind them is that hypocritical nature of supporting someone who emboldens police brutality. I wrote the following on FB:
I would be remiss if I did not remind every single person who continues to support Donald Trump while also posting their outrage about the death of George Floyd, that the president you support gave the following endorsement of police brutality against black Americans:
"When you see these towns and when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of the paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough. I said please don’t be too nice. Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put your hand over? Like don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody. Don’t hit their head. I said you can take the hand away, okay?"
https://www.theatlantic.com/poli…
I would be remiss if I did not remind you that the president you support has never apologized for calling for the execution of young black teenagers who were wrongly convicted of raping a jogger in Central Park in 1989, their confessions coerced by police. The men were later exonerated for having nothing to do with that crime after DNA evidence confirmed the assault was committed by a man named Matias Reyes, who surfaced in 2002 and confessed to the crime.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/…
You either support an obviously racist man who appears to get off from oppression and police brutality against black Americans, or you don't support an obviously racist man who appears to get off from oppression and police brutality against black Americans. There is no in-between. There's simply being right, and being wrong. You can be compassionate and sad about George Floyd's death - and we all should have those feelings - but you can't be oblivious to the enablement and glorification of police brutality by the president of the United States that you voted for and God forbid may vote for again in November.
- I read the quote, the words "black people" wasn't in it. Also, read up on CP5, the woman raped even disagreed with deBlasio settling case. Get educated.robotron3k
- Ah, yes, he was probably talking white thugs.mg33
- The reason I give all you stupid gringos shite is because I dont want your privileged white asses lecturing ME about racism.robotron3k
- Tell me more about how us dark people are oppressed, I love stories....robotron3k
- I see. I see. Empathy is impossible unless a personal is identical to the person they’re expressing empathy for. Do I have that about right?mg33
- I actually believe it could be shocking if you changed places with a minority. Have you read the book Black like me?robotron3k
- I have not, and I fully believe you that it would be shocking. I’m simply trying to say that it is possible to be empathetic and want change for others evenmg33
- ... if they’re a different ethnicity, color, etc.mg33
- That sense of empathy is not unique to anything or anyone. It’s a human expression that we’d be better off seeing in many more people these days.mg33
- I guess what I'm saying is, it shouldn't offend you, or be impossible to understand, that we don't have to be the same to agree on changes needed.mg33
- True, as a white man, my experiences have never involved that which minorities experience on a daily basis. But that doesn't mean I can't want better for them.mg33
- I hope that makes sense. :) This issue is truly something we should not be at odds about simply because of our skin color.mg33
- I understand and appreciate your thoughts. Yes you def can have empathy, this is innately human 100%. But going into day to day racism is unreal, I worked yearsrobotron3k
- never got raises or promotion. People can look at my surname and they know my role. Imagine someone can just look at your name and do that.robotron3k
- I'm glad we agree. :) My entire life I've never viewed people as inferior or incapable because of race or color. More a matter of good / bad, evil / kind.mg33
- While I can't legitimately say I understand as if I've walked in your shoes, I abhor it as much as you and I want positive change as much as you.mg33
- Jeezus h christ. If u can't understand the giant bullshit jump from a cop killing to race and presidential candidate I'm bummed for udeathboy
- You are chasing ghosts mg33. Ie.. ask yourself what Trump believes in when he's says differing opinions to everything. He's casting a big netdeathboy
- He doesn't believe in any shit that doesn't work for him. He's opportunistic as hell. And still surprised ppl don't understand that vs lash on to the emodeathboy
- Responses he chums water. But maybe he is right in displaying how dumb the political system is and can be manipulateddeathboy
- No russia got Trump elected all trump and everyone including and mostly his haters u can thank for beingdeathboy
- Played like a fiddledeathboy
- sted5
Teargas the people. Napalm the shelves. Save a flatscreen TV
- I hope you corporate bigwigs learned a lesson. Next time, don't name your store Target!robotron3k
- PhanLo1
- imeana if hesnaganna wear a maisk thein am not gonna either sum-bitch
*spitsmoldero - Actually quite impressed, not only did they have manners but they were able to balance the BS by experts with safety. Also air/sunlight is proven flu therapy.robotron3k
- https://www.ncbi.nlm… jump to Ventilation & Sunlightrobotron3k
- Golly gee...it's God plan!utopian
- Plot twist: the reporter gets red pulled hard, rips mask off and yells a spontaneous grita! He had arrived home. https://bit.ly/2X99e…robotron3k
- Bobo you're the best. God will reward you in heaven.PhanLo
- Robo would make a good north korean. Praises and parrots every single talking point of his glorious leader. No questions asked.inteliboy
- Also holy shit there's a lot of obese people in this video...inteliboy
- imeana if hesnaganna wear a maisk thein am not gonna either sum-bitch
- omahadesigns4
Just don't listen to the president. The only people who like him are idiots.
- scruffics3
“Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger,” the columnist Fintan O’Toole wrote in the Irish Times. “But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.”
- https://www.theguard…Bluejam
- definitely.microkorg
- I think this is the major thing. EU/UK/CAN JPN/AUS/NZ etc are feckless and neutered, US has been the lynch-pin for decades over a shared philosophical valueNairn
- In a multi-polar world. the biggest bear gets the honey. As I see it now, China is the biggest bear. Whether that's a good or bad thing, I don't know.Nairn
- dmay6
