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- BaskerviIle5
"The mRNA vaccine revolution is just beginning
mRNA brought us a Covid-19 vaccine in record speed. Next it could tackle flu, malaria or HIV"This article from this month's Wired magazine is worth a read if you want to know more about mRNA vaccines...very promising stuff:
- and are all these going to be mandatory also. I weep for the futureautoflavour
- grafician-4
"Unvaccinated people are 'variant factories,' infectious diseases expert says"
- we were all variant factories for 18 months and we've only got to Delta? had my 2nd on Wednesday so i am still a variant factory, i may cough up an Echo yet...kingsteven
- the variants we have are apparently from UK and India and South Africa right? So very dense countries but with low vaccination levels?grafician
- UK has high Vax levels and SA isn't a dense country, so I'm not really sure how that gelsNairn
- More stating the obvious because the 4 dominant variants originated before any significant population was vaccinated... but we are up to L nowkingsteven
- @Nairn UK hadn't had high vax levels when that variant occured, not to mention many are only once vaccinated - that almost don't count!grafician
- Also dense as in densely populated! And I gave only those 3 examples cuz that's where the variants come from duh!grafician
- ^oh and ofc fucking China!grafician
- PhanLo1
A woman who I mentioned further down who got the Delta Force 5 variant of the Rona at a football game has been stuck inside with her family self isolating for ages.
Longer than the two weeks and they keep getting positive results, which is apparently common. Her doctor said this might happen for a few more weeks.
One of her friends who got the Covid at a different time is permanently blind in one eye now, such a weird flu.
- neverscared-1
- yeah, and this other moron won’t stfu about how the real issue is fear of bees, and there’s nothing to worry about evenmonospaced
- Nairn0
I've had one vax dose, AZ.
Next one is a few weeks away.
There are drop-in centres where you can get Moderna/Pfizer without much adminsitration.
I'm kind've considering threewaysing my dose and bumping up on some of that sweet mRNA shit too.
That would be wrong, right?
I mean, people around the world aren't getting their fare share of this shit.
- Morally wrong? Or just like moronically wrong?nb
- You'll laugh out of the other side of your mutated face as I and mein überbrethren take over the world, you beplagued scum.Nairn
- Better ask a doctor, but apparently word on the street is getting mRNA after AZ is rather goodgrafician
- but what for? Are you planing to go to a rave?uan
- i know a few folks that have gone 1st dose AZ, second Pfizer route after having a bad reaction to the first, just phone your GP and sort itkingsteven
- got my second AZ last week and it was like it never happened, not even a twinge in the arm a day afterwards... from all reports the pfizer is worse second dosekingsteven
- I got AZ 1st Pfizer 2nd. Minor aches 1st dose, fever in bed all day from Pfizer. Wife had the same and hardly any reaction to Pfizer. Prolly got the placebo ;-)monNom
- They do say mRNA for the 2nd looks like it gives better, more lasting immunity.monNom
- Ohhhhh I thought by AZ you meant “in Arizona”. Yeah top up with mRNAnb
- pango0
- Big surprise...they're a monolithic culture trapped on a fucking island.utopian
- Sorta like New Zealandutopian
- Monolithic how?pango
- Surprised at what? They held off or the surge in March?pango
- Wow, never realized how ignorant you are utopian.instrmntl
- Wait, so are ID cards with health on them a good thing now or still a bad thing?microkorg
- autoflavour2
UK is driving headlong off a cliff with Boris at the wheel, looking at his phone watching torture porn.
but that's part of the plan I guess..
let everyone go nuts, it gets crazy out of hand again, and bam, back to lock down with mandatory vaccination programs.
only an insane person would see 27k cases a day and say, you know what, its now time for personal responsibility ..
its not careless, its not bumbling baboonery.. its calculated and intentional.
fear is the mind killer
- but have fun with your freedom while you can.. its the last dance before the new new normal comes in. 1984 is in full effectautoflavour
- Darwin was from the UKutopian
- Calculated so the end game is mandatory vaccines? What a stupid ass conspiracy theory.monospaced
- end game is not mandatory vaccines.. they are just the catalyst for mandatory government digital IDautoflavour
- and you say conspiracy.. Vaccines are already becoming mandatory in Australia. Health and Aged care workers.. unless you want to quit your jobautoflavour
- in October or so they will come out and say not enough people are doing it, and they will make push it as a condition of employment .autoflavour
- in 2022 Children in Australia will need vaccination for schoolautoflavour
- digital ID is the push here tho. Vaccine passports are way in..autoflavour
- mygovid.gov.au .. voluntary program in australia.. you can always go into a government office or call if you don't want to access government services via webautoflavour
- have you tried calling any government agency in Australia.. bring a book, minimum is 2 hoursautoflavour
- once everyone has a digital id.. how long before you need to use it just to access the internet in general.autoflavour
- only criminal and people with something to hide wouldn't want verification of ID on the internet..autoflavour
- also don't forget, you need your ID to scan QR codes to go placesautoflavour
- inch by inch, the government is rolling back freedom .. they take it away with lockdown and then portion it back out attached to conditions.autoflavour
- there is no futureautoflavour
- lol, you think this is all for a new ID? Funnymonospaced
- Oh you’re talking about Australia. That government. Good luck down under there.monospaced
- +1 autoflavour. Our country is fucked.sausages
- ...you already need mandatory IDs (or passports) to travel. Where's your freedom here?uan
- Digital ID as in microchips in the vaccine?palimpsest
- The UK is willingly vaccinating. Boris imposing another full lockdown in a few months would be electoral suicide. He doesn't do plans.Fax_Benson
- vaccinations in England are lulling and may top out around 66%i think this is the only way forward that isn't mandatory vaccinations...kingsteven
- boris coming out with shite about freedoms but he's in a corner and somehow his critics are coming off more authoritarian than the gov'tkingsteven
- The % depends where the age cut-off is drawn and how those under it are classified? The real ID grab is the NHS data shareFax_Benson
- agree the lockdown zealots are increasingly bonkers.Fax_Benson
- over 60s only account for 20% of the overall population (highly vaxxed) and less than 50% uptake in all < 60 groups that have been open >1 monthkingsteven
- i doubt many will get their kids vaxxed if its not mandatory and they don't live with a compromised person...kingsteven
- not there yet but 16th august seems like quite a realistic point to call it, the resulting wave may panic more in to getting itkingsteven
- https://www.theguard…neverscared
- Data predicts 2m UK summer Covid cases with 10m isolatingneverscared
- Just remember, however bad it may seem, things are far worse in the developing world (i.e., most of the world) where there is nowhere near the same access toyuekit
- vaccines, let alone vaccines that work effectively against new strains of the virus. In the grand scheme of things UK, US and other privileged countries have ityuekit
- good, regardless of political fuck ups or annoying rules.yuekit
- indeedFax_Benson
- I am not suggesting Covid was planned, I'm not a tinfoil Alex jones type.. but I also recognise no government misses a opportunity to take advantage of a crisisautoflavour
- proof of vaccination in Australia is through mygovid.. new government issued digital wallet as of July 2021. mission creep is inevitableautoflavour
- PhanLo0
My wife was on a zoom call with her old friends from college last night, one of them had got divorced a few years back, she's still good friends with the guy but he got really into conspiracy theories shortly before their wedding.
I remember having some illuminati chats with him, he got really into them, especially since his business was repossessed by over extending.Anyway, they have a daughter who's 14, and he's been telling her if she gets a Corona virus vaccine she'll become infertile. Quite a headfuck for the kid I think.
- damn...that's so fucking cruel.oey_oey
- Technically, he's right: If she does anything in life, ultimately, she'll become infertile.
:|Nairn - Same for if she does nothing.monospaced
- The becoming infertile fear is a big one. Public health Office started an information campaign to educate on the matter here in Switzerland.uan
- grafician1
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- yuekit3
This article by French researchers suggests a totally different possible origin for SARS-CoV-2, the fur industry. No idea if this is true but it's an interesting theory.
Apparently outbreaks of viruses on fur farms are common in China as minks, raccoon dogs and other animals are held in terrible conditions. It's known that minks can be carriers of the virus as seen in Denmark, USA and other countries.
"A little known fact is that in 2019 Shandong produced 6.5 million mink pelts, down from nearly 15 million in 2018. This means nearly 9 million mink disappeared from one year to the next, a 55% drop in production for just one province. Such a sharp decline suggests some form of disaster."
- Makes sense so we they did have that outbreak in Norway causing them to kill millions of mink to prevent the spread_niko
- But the article is from january_niko
- Yeah it's not brand new...just weird that so little attention paid to this possibility. It's been known for some time that small mammals like minks, civet catsyuekit
- are carriers of SARS viruses. Keeping millions of them together on farms is like a massive disease factory.yuekit
- dr. mono knows the truth, ask himrenderedred
- AQUTE0
“But wait, there's more!”
- Ianbolton0
This might sound like a stupid question/idea, but hear me out. If the vaccines don’t really stop the virus, just the symptoms, surely the UK opening up and easing most restrictions allows it to spread freely, encouraging the mutation until we have a variant which is way more potent, therefore needing a vaccine top up. Sounds like a dangerous way of dealing with it?
- vaccines do stop viruses. you get less symptoms, and recover fast. though I know what you mean... lots of vaccinated people could be carriers...inteliboy
- yes, that's the case. it makes sense to spread that knowledge and try to keep social distancing, masks, caution with elderly, aso.at least at a voluntary level.uan
- maybe just the opposite. let's see if population can live with the virus. I have no idea. UK going first with this step gives Europe some data on the effects.uan
- If we look to Asia, China had to impose new lockdowns, South Korea also. So it's pretty clear a 4th wave will come back in fall/winter to Europe/UK this year.uan
- it's in the interest of the virus to not kill the host and generally they mutate to be milder, thus ensuring their survival.shapesalad
- problem is... covid is so viral, so easily spread, takes awhile to kill... it's kinda already found its best modus opus.shapesalad
- Not sure if it makes things worse or just speeds up a process that will happen everywhere in a few months... Need to do sthg because the vaccines are notkingsteven
- protecting the elderly and compromised folks we went in to lockdown to help. The unvaccinated will all get it if they haven't allreadykingsteven
- That makes sense Salad. Maybe that's my point Kingsteven. The unvaccinated are going to be truly fucked as this thing comes more aggressivelyIanbolton
- Let's see how many of them wish they'd paid more attention to the scientists and how their essential oils combat things going forwardIanbolton
- by the time England opens up anyone 18+ has had the opportunity to get fully vaxxed... the cases should put the willies up at least some of the remaining 25-30%kingsteven
- nothing like weeding the garden...shapesalad
- There's a big grey area between immunity and death...which includes long covid, ie long lasting health issuesBaskerviIle
- Also when we look at who is unvaccinated or most at risk: it's young people/children. immunocompromised people, BAME people...BaskerviIle
- So, conveniently the Tory voter base is protected: older, white upper/middle class people will be fine...not so much everyone below themBaskerviIle
- ask dr. mono he knows!renderedred
- PhanLo0
A friend has been organising painting a mural on the side of a small local GP surgery that has also been doing covid vaccines for the elderly and vulnerable. It was for the 'woman in science' part of the science festival here.
She briefly mentioned that it had been targeted by anti-vax folk. A common site in my city is 'covid vax = 666' spraypainted around testing and vaccination places, but she was saying excrement had also been posted through the letterbox multiple times and attempts had been made to set it on fire.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯- Absolute madness. One of my friends had a go at me for watching the football saying 'do you not see it's a distarction from what's really happening?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Ianbolton
- "...football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”PhanLo
- Folk need to enjoy something, I think football kind of does that. It's been a pretty miserable year and a bit for a lot of folk.PhanLo
- I think sport has always been a distraction from the constant barrage of human suffering. To the point we suffer when we lose anyway - why do we do anything?!Ianbolton
- Be like Scotland. You win you booze, you lose you booze. It's just booze. :-)PhanLo
- Football gives men something to talk about when they meet each other.Nairn
- ^Very true Nairn, lot's of men would be lost without it.PhanLo
- You see the game the other night?Ianbolton
- grafician-5
"Pfizer says it is developing a Covid booster shot to target the highly transmissible delta variant"
- 3rd shot gives you 6G, better upgrade boysgrafician
- ask dr. mono, the village idiot, he knows!renderedred
- maquito5
Recently had Sinovac’s CoronaVac shots (2 within a 2 month span). Uruguayan government officials announced today that anyone with CoronaVac shots will have a third, Pfizer shot available to strengthen the antibodies. This shit looks like it’s never going to end.
- big pharma is rubbing their hands together, money is coming!!! booster shots every six months or so... get vaccinated, yeah :) (and still be a carrier orrenderedred
- get sick anyway...renderedred
- i am not anti vax at all but this is becoming ridicolous.renderedred
- https://en.wikipedia…renderedred
- What does this have to do with being anti vax and how could it possibly contribute to anti vax perspective?monospaced
- It only ends when the fucktards of the world stop being fucktarded and start actually getting vaccinated.monospaced
- In the meantime they post Wikipedia links and in leaps of anti logic start waxing fucktarded about planned obselecence conspiracy theories. NO OFFENSEmonospaced
- looks good for vegetarians https://www.sciencef…neverscared
- @mono you the man and not a fucktard, i will not stoop to your level of conversation. never!renderedred
- but, yeah, be a good and obedient little boy that you are and do your duty, get vaccinated every 6 months with an experimental vaccine.renderedred
- @renderedred, you stooped long before with your nonsense theories based on fucktards mojuthing off on the internet, NO OFFENSEmonospaced
- I suppose you consider yourself the better man by rejecting what THE WHOLE WORLD'S SCIENTISTS think you should do. You're like a fucking Neo in Matrix no?monospaced
- Or else you just think it's fun to fabricate nonsense, use words like "experimental," and act smart to hide your nonsensical fear of what you don't understand.monospaced
- What's worse is that you somehow think this is mandatory. WTF?monospaced
- two doctors i asked told me not to take the vaccination and with good reason. and yes, your vaccine is STILL not approved for use other than emergency,renderedred
- go forth pharma bro and enjoy your pharma stocks, you are earning money with every vaccine my man. you and i are different but you somehow ignore anything elserenderedred
- but your righteous opinion. good luck to you. NO OFFENCErenderedred
- OFFENSE, sorry :)renderedred
- call your pharma stocks companies you're invested in and ask them if they have approval for use on a wide population, they don't, EMERGENCY USE ONLY, so yeah irenderedred
- call that experimental.renderedred
- and no i don't think politicians and big pharma have our best interest at heart. so i'm a fucktard, sure :)renderedred
- ummm, they have 100% full approval from FDA for this emergency, yesmonospaced
- Will you stop ranting like a fucktard next week when they do approve it for wide population use? like will you STFU?monospaced
- If you can't even articulate what interests they have for you, then you sound like a crazy fucktard conspiracy theorist, WITHOUT A CONSPIRACYmonospaced
- It's also not experimental. It's been tested as much as any other vaccine in history. That's a fact, but I guess you ignore those. You're like a new pr2 I guessmonospaced
- yo pharmabro, vaccines are tested 5-10 years before approved for wide use, NOT 6 months.renderedred
- YOU and everyone that got it are part of that testing. i wish no harm to anybody but side-effects will kick in sooner or later if there are any... for a start.renderedred
- and then there's lack of efficiency on different strains too.renderedred
- and again, i don't insult you on a personal level. yet :)renderedred
- for some reason you're very invested in denying reality other than your own opinion. good luck to you!renderedred
- go get your third shot man :)renderedred
- if you had even a basic understanding of the timing involved in traditional vaccines vs mRNA ones, you'd understand that 5-6 years isn't requiredmonospaced
- They managed to get in the same amount of testing they would have with an older vaccine, in a single year.monospaced
- And why mock someone who gets a vaccine? It's not like there's a problem with it that I should be worried about.monospaced
- The reality is clear as day, and the only one denying it is you.monospaced
- yeah, you're right of course mRNA vaccines have been in wide population use for decades already LOL, like this is NOT the first time.renderedred
- I'm not talking about how long they've been in use. We're talking about the amount of testing.monospaced
- But on that note, they have been tested for decades. Go read up on the woman behind the research and the miracle vaccine. It's very enlightening.monospaced
- In the late '90s, one of my friends started working as a research assistant at our university for a grad student precisely on mRNA treatments, including vaccinemonospaced
- You're absolutely right they are new in human trials, but they aren't being rolled out blindly, as it seems you are implying. There's a lot of science there :)monospaced
- grafician-1
BREAKING: FDA warns Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine associated with increased risk of developing Guillain-Barre syndrome, in which the immune system attacks the nervous system.
- sounds horrificshapesalad
- cue pharmabro denial of realityrenderedred
- ApeRobot0
It's on, France decided to apply the covid pass.
Get vaccinated or say goodbye to your social life.
Third shot is coming.
Welcome to 1984- exactly. fascism rears it's ugly head slowly but surely.renderedred
- *its sorryrenderedred
- The pass is given out if you have a negative covid test, or if you've had covid recently too. It does NOT require a vaccine.monospaced
- It's basically the same as "don't go to school sick" and "get a note from the doctor." Calm down.monospaced
- Dude, it means being tested everyday.ApeRobot
- ^@pharmabro does NOT want to hear that, STFU ;)renderedred
- for medcare workers.sted
- it doesn't mean being tested every daymonospaced
- And what does "pharmabro" even mean? I'm sure it's based on a gross misunderstanding and is just your pathetic attempt to insult me when you have nothing elsemonospaced
- ^you admitted it yourself, YOU are the one owning stock in big pharma not me, so yeah, i call you pharmabrorenderedred
- i hope your stocks are doing better with every person you insult with your vast medical knowledge :)renderedred
- Yup, a gross misunderstanding and nothing else. You've gotta be pretty stupid to think owning stock means anything beyond that.monospaced
- My stocks are doing great, btw, and pair well with my higher than average medical knowledge.monospaced
- dr. mono to the rescue!renderedred
- well, yeah, I'm bringing us safely back to logic and reason, which doesn't seem to fit well with youmonospaced
- fuck you cuntrenderedred
