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    This might sound like a stupid question/idea, but hear me out. If the vaccines don’t really stop the virus, just the symptoms, surely the UK opening up and easing most restrictions allows it to spread freely, encouraging the mutation until we have a variant which is way more potent, therefore needing a vaccine top up. Sounds like a dangerous way of dealing with it?

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    • vaccines do stop viruses. you get less symptoms, and recover fast. though I know what you mean... lots of vaccinated people could be carriers...inteliboy
    • yes, that's the case. it makes sense to spread that knowledge and try to keep social distancing, masks, caution with elderly, aso.at least at a voluntary level.uan
    • maybe just the opposite. let's see if population can live with the virus. I have no idea. UK going first with this step gives Europe some data on the effects.uan
    • If we look to Asia, China had to impose new lockdowns, South Korea also. So it's pretty clear a 4th wave will come back in fall/winter to Europe/UK this year.uan
    • it's in the interest of the virus to not kill the host and generally they mutate to be milder, thus ensuring their survival.shapesalad
    • problem is... covid is so viral, so easily spread, takes awhile to kill... it's kinda already found its best modus opus.shapesalad
    • Not sure if it makes things worse or just speeds up a process that will happen everywhere in a few months... Need to do sthg because the vaccines are notkingsteven
    • protecting the elderly and compromised folks we went in to lockdown to help. The unvaccinated will all get it if they haven't allreadykingsteven
    • That makes sense Salad. Maybe that's my point Kingsteven. The unvaccinated are going to be truly fucked as this thing comes more aggressivelyIanbolton
    • Let's see how many of them wish they'd paid more attention to the scientists and how their essential oils combat things going forwardIanbolton
    • by the time England opens up anyone 18+ has had the opportunity to get fully vaxxed... the cases should put the willies up at least some of the remaining 25-30%kingsteven
    • nothing like weeding the garden...shapesalad
    • There's a big grey area between immunity and death...which includes long covid, ie long lasting health issuesBaskerviIle
    • Also when we look at who is unvaccinated or most at risk: it's young people/children. immunocompromised people, BAME people...BaskerviIle
    • So, conveniently the Tory voter base is protected: older, white upper/middle class people will be fine...not so much everyone below themBaskerviIle
    • ask dr. mono he knows!renderedred
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