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- palimpsest5
COVID vaccines are free because they "saves lives". Then why isn't insulin free? That saves lives too.
Wake up sheeple!- Insulin is free where I live.PhanLo
- Don't kid yourself, the covid vaccines are not free, nothing in life is for free.utopian
- wtf is insulin?i_was
- Insulin is provided free in Ireland too.mort_
- Commiesi_was
- Covid vaccines are subsidised by the govs, bought at costgrafician
- insulin was free in Iran before the US sanctions - but now they buy it from terrorists at 8x the price on the FREE market GO USAkingsteven
- “If you go and deeply analyze big pharma, you will find oil”. - former BIG pharma client... Evil, selfish, greedy psychos.maquito
- However, it’s up to governments. In Uruguay, two thirds of the population already got both shots of Pfizer or Sinovac. For free.maquito
- Strictly speaking, Covid vaccines aren't free. Our taxes paid for that shit.Continuity
- It’s very sad, nevertheless, to see many countries struggling, while big pharma keeps patents for generic shots tightly closed. Sadistic fucks.maquito
- I wonder what their subconscious thinks about when they’re sleeping.maquito
- https://theintercept…maquito
- not contagious evidentlyneverscared
- speaking of insulin diabetes 2 can be reversed my friends.renderedred
- @renderedred Type 2 can be reversed in some cases, not all Insulin is mostly (but not exclusively) used for Type 1.mort_
- (oops, meant to type a period . after not all.)mort_
- oh, yes forgot about 1, no reverse for thatrenderedred
- Our taxes will be going up to pay for these vaccines, furlows, grants to businesses. There's no free shit here.microkorg
- they are free now, wait until the boosters are needed.. and all the infrastructure is in place meaning without a vaccine you aren't travelling or shopping.autoflavour
- Diabetes is for the weak and manipulatedi_was
- i_was0
- You’re clearly threatened.monospaced
- You need your third dose fat vulgar specimen :)i_was
- i fuckin love thee oh seeskingsteven
- lol, the dude ain't funi_was
- LOL@ John Dwyer jokeDRIFTMONKEY
- This isn't a magic eye, is it?
I'm sure not seeing a dolphin, anyway.Nairn
- yuekit0
Boris Johnson's former advisor claims "herd immunity" was the UK government's official strategy until last fall
- A year and a half in, has any country achieved anything approaching herd immunity without vaccines?yuekit
- Thinking back to how many people advocated this idea...yuekit
- depends on who you ask. I hear there’s this one silly fool who is convinced nyc reached it long ago and everything we are doing is pointlessmonospaced
- this is a bit daft, because dominic cummings says? 'fall', 'the guardian' - do you know anything about the UK? :-Dkingsteven
- fact is we cant pin anything on these cunts because the EU have been such dicks about AZ and now we're nearly vaccinated to a level where herd immunity comes inkingsteven
- @kingsteven I definitely remember herd immunity being embraced by UK gov in the early stages of the pandemic.yuekit
- the guy making claims in this article was supposedly behind it, then firedkingsteven
- it's now being pursued by the opposition (hence the guardian running it) but it doesn't have a chance of sticking to boris like usualkingsteven
- @king, he's supposedly leaking documents this week that prove his claims explaining why our early response was so slow... whether he does though I have no idea.fadein11
- Telegraph has published 5 stories (equal to the guardian) in the last 5 days on this Dom story so to say it's pursed by the 'opposition' is not quite right ;-)Bluejam
- Just (badly) explaining why the guardian are so willing to publish unfounded claims of a co conspiritor.kingsteven
- I don't doubt it for a second - i just see 'pursued herd immunity as policy' during a vaccine roll out about as scathing as 'he decorated a flat' in a pandemickingsteven
- i heard there is one silly fool (well, a few actually) who never invested in a simple calculator.pr2
- Heard immunity was Sweden's strategy - yeah, they are doing so badly i see (not).pr2
- You get one unhealthy, overweight, overworked, bad-diet (not to mention terrible haircut) prime minster who gets covid and gets it bad...pr2
- ...And changes the direction for a whole country... 1984 anyone?pr2
- Then again, why do i use a reference to a masterpieces describing the world we live to people who don't understand basics arithmetic?pr2
- big difference between acknowledging herd immunity exists and herd immunity as policy. i'm fairly certain in hindsight the response from the gov't would havekingsteven
- been a swifter, harder lockdown... not herd-immunity so the idea of applying current knowledge to the start of the pandemic is kinda daftkingsteven
- and not to further denigrate a childrens' classic there was a crazy guy walking round my way writing COVID 1984 on lamp posts 6 months agokingsteven
- "childrens' classic" - this kills any possibility of a conversation, as you clearly are from a different planet (or maybe never bother reading the book).pr2
- i loved that book when i was a kid but a send up of future global stalinism by an english left-libertarian in an england come airfield? the tories?kingsteven
- I'm pretty sure I debunked your fixation on Sweden's 'success' a couple of months ago. Also, a 'not joke'? Really?Nairn
- https://www.jokejive…Nairn
- lol the Swedish response has been a fucking shambles. The only good thing has been the govt. scheme to pay employee wages. Kept my company going with full staffface_melter
- king, do you mind recommending other "children books"? my kids love Winnie the Pooh, but are not really into Plato.pr2
- big point is you are feeding your own fears on fears of one man who you chose to show you direction - like polite lambs lead to slaughterhouse.pr2
- The fact any country thinks herd immunity is a morally justified approach to something we knew very little about at the beginning is fucking stupid.Ianbolton
- as opposed to morally "higher ground" of killing people by denying them basic medical procedures?pr2
- Exactly, this was the pet theory of conservatives and contrarian types but knowing what we know now, they were basically advocating mass slaughter.yuekit
- @pr I was late reading 1984 at 13, after reading animal farm in school. I wouldn't be a fan of Orwell's politics at the time (when he was writing kids books)kingsteven
- But he ended up embracing anarchism, still, closer to the Tories than where I align myself. But for your purposes the reference does not stand...kingsteven
- utopian1
I know that Covid is yesterday's news and what not...but.
- USA! USA! USA!autoflavour
- Close to 2% mortality. Pretty fucking bad.BusterBoy
- @Buster More like 5% irlgrafician
- this is not how you calculate mortality.pr2
- by now even your uncle who's a truck driver from New Jersey knows it.pr2
- @pr2 mate we don't have trucker uncle down in NJ, we're basically overseas!grafician
- utopian6
- https://www.forbes.c…utopian
- +1i_was
- lol @ +1
hmmm, how does one get immunity?
Has there been reinfection?
what an asspango - Hope he gets covid in the dicknecromation
- With natural immunity there can't be reinfectioni_was
- we got another QBN health professional here.fadein11
- The Axis of Evilpalimpsest
- It's funny the logic here. Ok, let's say you believe you have natural immunity. So, uh, still, why not get the vaccine? Too busy? Scared of needles?nb
- He got brained by his neighbour, lets see if the science works and he has a natural immunity against it happening again.face_melter
- gentlemen, since you missed the class on how white blood cells work... if you had a disease OR had a vaccine, your body learns who the "bad guy" is.pr2
- if he had covid, then for him taking vaccine would be akin to filling up a gas tank then driving to gas station across the street and attempting to do the same.pr2
- some of you might not know this is not how we tank up a car.pr2
- lol, this clown acting like he took a class on how white blood cells work. If you had, you'd know that teacher would say to get the vaccine.monospaced
- And then uses a gas tank as an analogy for the body filling up on antivirals. This is why everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot.monospaced
- I'd wager you haven't even taken a science course since 10th grade, where you got a solid C-. It shows.monospaced
- pr2 is too much of a Brainiac for us plebs. He read 1984 and *totally* gets it, man. Like, we're all just flapping around reading Marxist theory like twats.face_melter
- He's also incredibly predictable. He will, no doubt, deny that he is considered a fool, and then call us all fools. Just watch.monospaced
- oh yeah pr2. when is this herd immunity gonna kick in?pango
- ^
https://media.gq.com…ApeRobot - children are throwing a tantrum today.pr2
- getting angry instead of engaging the gist of the argument, oh children, children, one do you will grow up.pr2
- RIGHT ON CUE, predicted with 100% accuracy as well, LOLmonospaced
- And furthermore, this asshat ACTUALLY thinks he posed an argument. HOLY SHIT this is next level stupid.monospaced
- lol angry? not at all. We laughingpango
- so sad to see the half-developed brain cells trying to comprehend concepts as "complex" as difference between red and white blood cells.pr2
- so sad to see the half-developed brain cells trying to pretend he knows shit.pango
- until you prove you're more qualified than the majority of the doctor around the world, you're just that guy pretending he knows shit.pango
- until you show me that you understand how the immunity works (even on most basic level, the sort whoever made the meme doesn't get)...pr2
- ...then you are just that guy who doesn't even pretend anymore and is happy to live in blessed oblivion of ignorance.pr2
- That's the difference. I don't understand how it works. And I'm aware of it. But I don't act like a moron thinking I know better than doctor and go tell peoplepango
- To do dumb shit.
Rand Paul have no prove he has the immunity. He went with his feel feel.pango - Btw. When is this herd immunity gonna kick in? If you're so against vaccine and prevention, how many people has to die till gov do something?pango
- Wait.... So you admit you're pretending you know shit?pango
- "happy to live in blessed oblivion of ignorance." Lol you fell short on screaming "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!"pango
- Rand Paul is a quack and is not even a board-certified MD. He gave himself his own doctor title and degree...and continually talks out his ass.utopian
- We are 1 year into a global pandemic and you say out loud for everyone to hear that you didn't bother learning how your body's immunity works?pr2
- My 5 year old wanted to know what happens to his body when he was being immunized so i played him a cartoon. It takes a 20 min cartoon for kids...pr2
- ...to learn enough about immunity and white blood cells to know the meme is wrong.pr2
- Like seriously. You don't need to spend 8 years in med school to know it.pr2
- If you had covid = you have immunity. This is not Rand Paul saying it but science backed by countless years of research.pr2
- watching some youtube video is not the equivalent of actually understand how it works lol. youtube video does not make you more of an expert than the majoritypango
- of the doctors around the world. lol this guy who watched 20 min YT vid and now think he knows more than doctors who spent 8 years in med schools.pango
- did the 20 min video has reinfection is possible? well, it is. Roll the dice!pango
- yes son, it did show to kids what happens when anthromorphized viruses/bacteria enters immunized body.pr2
- lol, this clown STILL acting like ANYONE had even mentioned white/red blood cells or showed any confusion before he started bitchsplaining like a foolmonospaced
- coming out with his "I watched a 3 minute video" shit and then telling people they're stupid because they didn't know about something nobody is even talking abomonospaced
- once again monomoron doesn't even understand the fundamental basics of an argument. bravo to him for mastering the keyboard.pr2
- Krassy3
Intelligence on Sick Staff at Wuhan Lab Fuels Debate on Covid-19 Origin
Report says researchers went to hospital in November 2019, shortly before confirmed outbreak; adds to calls for probe of whether virus escaped lab
https://www.wsj.com/articles/int…
- Getting from impossible to possible to probable real quickgrafician
- I think the conspiracy theorists think it was released on purpose though. Probably by Gill BatesIanbolton
- @ianbolton anything is possible, but that's not very probablegrafician
- love the spacesuits . remind me of: https://vimeo.com/74…Krassy
- @Ianbolton Or Elon Muski_was
- Were the Chinese weaponizing the virus?
Did the virus accidentally slip out of the lab or was it purposely deployed?utopian - Yes. Hello. Been saying this from day one. Personally think it was accidental release. But CCP happy to see it play out and better understand how to bio-attack.shapesalad
- Weren't there cases earlier than November though? How does this fit into that?yuekit
- That look... She looks suspect. And she probably broke wind earlier and the stank is still floating inside the suit.VectorMasked
- What if you need to pick your nose while wearing such a suit? Could someone having tried to pick their nose been the cause of covid!?shapesalad
- Every shot of the wuhan labs post 2019 has been this hasmat shit. I work beside a BSL 3 lab (which wasvthe level for handling) and these are not a requirementkingsteven
- And it probably got leaked on the way to the lab. These standards exist to protect the unis against liability, beyond that it's cowboys tedkingsteven
- In our place (university dept with a campus in northern China) it spread in Dec 2019 don't believe for a second that procedures protect anyone but the institutikingsteven
- ...institutionkingsteven
- it doesn't matter at all right nowsandpipe
- Shape, millions of samples of covid are traveling too and from labs right now. It's a necessity and I don't think any worse of China than the rest of the worldkingsteven
- But the idea that it's not possibly the source in the light that leaks happen all the fucking time matterskingsteven
- ie. the denial stems from the acceptance that most people are terrible racists... but they're not wrongkingsteven
- oh fuck, i'm drunk. that guys called sand pipe. who the fuck is sand pipe?kingsteven
- apologies sandpipe, i read your username for shape's.kingsteven
- If there was absolute proof it was a lab accident and covered up, there could be major consequences...like possibly the end of Xi Jinping's rule.yuekit
- I'm not convinced we'll ever find out though...there isn't really any new info that's come out, even this story was already reported months ago.yuekit
- huh what is kingsteven on? I have no issue with chinese people, issue is with CCP.shapesalad
- tbh i have no idea how i was still constructing words last night but i was referring to the folks beating up old asian ladies... not yourselfkingsteven
- ie. putting the blame on wet market/ Chinese people and culture vs finding the source of an accidental release in an internationally funded virology programmekingsteven
- Ianbolton1
We should be championing women in science.
Jennifer Doudna and Kariko Katalin- Hold your horses pardner, we can't even get science to pass through.palimpsest
- Why was this downvoted?scarabin
- lol "we should do good things and not bad things" -10 downvotesyuekit
- Krassy5
Couple get married on plane mid-air with 161 guests to avoid Covid restrictions
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/wo…
- then it crashedGuyFawkes
- loli_was
- This is the reason why India has a caste system.utopian
- party hardKrassy
- When it landed, it was simply buried and used as a giant coffin for 161 Covid victims.shapesalad
- Not to be racist BUT i think India and its people are stupid fouls living in a crooked overpopulated bureaucracymilfhunter
- Yeh good thing no other humans did anything stupid in the past year lolyuekit
- Not to be racist BUT i think Americans and its people are stupid fouls living in a crooked overpopulated bureaucracymilfhunter
- The ol' "I'm not racist but Hitler did nothing wrong" trope.palimpsest
- always worksmilfhunter
- Darwin at workSlashPeckham
- Krassy3
The Wuhan Lab Leak
Prominent scientists are calling for a deeper probe and clearer answers from Beijing
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wuh…
- Of all the human populated land in the world, what are the odds of a virus originating so close to a virus lab?shapesalad
- Free Wuhan Flu for Everyone!utopian
- Wuflu 4uGnash
- Good luck_niko
- What niko said, China gives a f*** with all thisOBBTKN
- Paywalled but if you want to read go to Drudge Report first and click through from there.yuekit
- It's a good article summing up what is known but again, no new info at all. I think USA is trying to pressure China with all this media coverage.yuekit
- Wuhan Clan ain't nothing to fuck with.Wordsworth
- Looks like a drive in pharmacy from FloridaPhanLo
- ^ lolyuekit
- Krassy1
William Shakespeare dies at 81 after becoming first man in world to get Covid vaccine
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk…
- sted3
- Bert herd immernerty!monospaced
- oh shit not again_me_
- Noooonb
- I was in Pranhran near the 3 monkeys pub that the covid person went into. So glad I didnt go in.Sellies
- SimonFFM15
A model I knew died from her vaccination with AstraZeneca. She was around 30 yo and browsing her timeline on FB hurts. She has a thumbs up emoji saying "Hey, I got my first jab #AstraZeneca" and now, she is dead.
This post is non-political, I always am. But it just hurts and shocks when you see someone died who had a name and wasn't just an anonymous number.
In the news (and here), the purport is "you are less likely to die from vaccine than from Corona" which statistically is true. But when the statistic has a name and you knew the person and look at her age, it absolutely makes no sense anymore.
- Fuck me, Simon, sorry for that.Continuity
- wow! bad news in deed!renderedred
- " you see someone died who had a name and wasn't just an anonymous number"
Oh yes because it makes a differencei_was - that's too bad. was it the clotting that did it?hans_glib
- was that the one in Cyprus?necromation
- Sorry to hear. Fuck AstraZeneca. Why are they still being used after so many negative reports?NBQ00
- Blood clots?monospaced
- az is basically fine, unless you're really unlucky.hans_glib
- ^LOL if you're unlucky then it's 100% mortality rate. great odds in deed.renderedred
- ^^basically helping big pharma calculate risks and test on a wide population under the guise of "saving lives".renderedred
- @nbq they had so many initial problems that they rebranded it as Vaxzervia. Sorry for your loss Simon.garbage
- Sorry for your loss. That's horrible when someone is trying to do the right thing and 'science' is on their side.formed
- Is it concluded that the vaccine was the sole cause of death? So sad.monospaced
- Sorry to hear. :(Akagiyama
- Damn, sorry Simon. :-(PhanLo
- Yeah fucked up. It’s the reason we’re a little hesitant to vaccinate our kids for covid. Do the risks outweigh the benefits at their age?_niko
- @necromation Yes, it was her.
And yes, due to blood clots.SimonFFM - sorry for your loss. Simon :(Krassy
- They stopped using Astra here in the Netherlands.milfhunter
- So sorry to hear Simon. Your right it's different when it gets that close. You hear numbers thrown around a lot about everything and we can get desensitized.eryx
- Sorry Simon :(sea_sea
- that is sad.utopian
- damn, sorry manGuyFawkes
- Thank you for your sympathy, guys! QBN is a great community. Greater than we sometimes think. All the best for all of you.SimonFFM
- @niko kids have a very low risk with covid. @simon that‘s sad, all the best!api
- grafician2
"President Joe Biden said Wednesday he has directed the US intelligence community to redouble their efforts in investigating the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic and report back to him in 90 days."
-CNN
- What did your president commit to doing about it? Just curious.monospaced
- Well nothing mono, as we don't sponsor virus research in chinagrafician
- That's right. Your country really isn't a player in anything significant. That's my point.monospaced
- oh stfu mono, your country basically sponsored gain of function research at that fucking wuhan lab and started all this shit
when china leaked that virusgrafician - so yeah, I'm glad my country does nothing important these days AS FUCKING STARTING GLOBAL PANDEMICSgrafician
- grafician2
"Immunity to the Coronavirus May Persist for Years, Scientists Find
Important immune cells survive in the bone marrow of people who were infected with the virus or were inoculated against it, new research suggests."
- shapesalad0
Lol at 10:00
"Coronavirus Park"
- sted2
German researchers on Wednesday said that based on laboratory research, they believed they have found the cause of the rare but serious blood clotting events among some people who received COVID-19 vaccines made by AstraZeneca Plc (AZN.L) and Johnson & Johnson (JNJ.N).
- that is a good news, still, i'll wait for the v2 or v3, i will not rush on the beta version.ApeRobot
- BusterBoy0
Really makes zero fucking difference whether the virus came from a lab or a wet market. How would governments have handled things any differently?
If I see another fucking Trumper tweeting "vindicated! Trump was right all along" I'll spew up.
Fact is, his actions still contributed to the deaths of 600,000 Americans.
- Well... had we known what it was, its features, we could have implemented better protective measures earlier *and* developed a vaccine earlier.shapesalad
- Sadly Trump saying it came from a lab has clouded that theory and made it seem like dump trump supporting.shapesalad
- a stopped clock is right twice a day. wet market = racism against chinese people and traditional culture. lab = internationally funded programme.kingsteven
- it suits almost everyone involved (the labs, CCP, Fauci) to blame the wet market. yet the wet market would be where an accidental release would be discoveredkingsteven
- not wanting the truth because trump may be right, denying science to protect science? worth studying pandemics from zoological sources if study creates them?kingsteven
- a year ago they would have said "we're preventing the next SARS" not "collecting and transporting viruses 4000x more deadly from reclusive species to the city"kingsteven
- ... they study this shit deep underground in the desert in sci-fi movies to make in believablekingsteven
- Well if it leaked from the lab it's more or less the biggest fuck up in human history. Would be nice to know for historical reasons if nothing else.yuekit
- positive side effect. if it's from a lab, more young people want vax. if it's natural we have not so much fear.api
- Morning_star3
I posted this Wuhan Lab Leak discussion 11 months ago. It gets a bit in depth but gives a good account as to why the possibility can't be rejected.
Yuri Deigin and Bret Weinstein Discuss the evidence for the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis.
- Trump was right!Gnash
- Maybe.Morning_star
- Broken clock is right twice a dayautoflavour
- Trump mentioned it but it wasn't a Trump thing,
the bleach thing was a trump thingGuyFawkes - this makes sense,
is it worth WW3? no
just learn mandarin lolGuyFawkes - good vid, but not sure why mainstream media = left media, considering how giant and mainstream Murdochs newscorp is.inteliboy