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- Krassy2
Covid, Cocaine Take Europe To 'Breaking Point': Europol
- utopian9
Getting my first Rona shot this week.
- grafician-1
BREAKING: US health agencies considering pausing administration of Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine due to six recipients developing blood clots
- this is fine. get vaccinated!renderedred
- so a quick recap:
J&J and AZ = possible immediate blood cloths
Pfizer doesn't work with SA strain
excellent!renderedred - give it a rest. Just wait 20 years and have it when you think it's safe. Or not.Fax_Benson
- *clotsrenderedred
- I just touched cloth in fear at my 2nd dose... damn you renderedredfadein11
- ^fast typing + muscle memory :)renderedred
- sure fax, no prob. i won't be pointing out stuff anymore.renderedred
- this is fineFax_Benson
- more info https://www.nytimes.…grafician
- "All six recipients were women between the ages of 18 and 48. One woman died and a second woman in Nebraska has been hospitalized in critical condition."grafician
- I'm glad I got the J&J shot last Friday. I had no problems aside from wanting to sleep all the time.CyBrainX
- It would be a foolish mistake. The risk of more getting sick outweighs the risk of those getting blood clots.FNP14
- sted5
- hell of a drug... absolute image of my wee neighbour too. that would explain the matrix oakley's while doing the gardenkingsteven
- Lynch?Fax_Benson
- Floridautopian
- not even onceallthethings
- NBQ000
- who is this? Jesus?GuyFawkes
- If it's anything like the test and trace system in the UK, it'll be yet another sinkhole for money that goes nowhere.PhanLo
- It is going to cost £300 per person extra to go on holiday in the UK so that will be a barrier for some. Cheap family holidays will be out of folks price rangePhanLo
- jobs/cash for the boyshans_glib
- i do hate him but he makes sense in this bit.renderedred
- 1) we already all have ID's
2) we leave a trail with everything we do
3) if people want a passport so they can get to fyre festival 2021 who gives a shit_niko - 4) kids already need vaccine passports to get into schools_niko
- I’m still wondering what that crow fart was all aboutscarabin
- 5) would probably be pretty easy to have an encrypted passport that doesn't tie into any other personal info, ie they know that entity# 1234 has no covid_niko
- ...but they don't know anything else about enity# 1234_niko
- but yeah leaving anything into the hands of corporations, whose only concern is the bottom line, especially our health and wellness is scary as fuck_niko
- i wouldn't let unvaxxed folks into my event. did we just forget about the superspreader events? guess i'm just hitler or somethingscarabin
- i feel like this is just fear mongering for the sake of sounding woke and getting hitsscarabin
- ********5
So, let see...
Chance of dying from covid-19 in the states:
1 in 650Chance of getting a blod clot from J+J vaccine:
1 in 800000
- 'sup numbers guy. I suck at math btw********
- chance of dying from covid is that of car crash or suicide. so if you are terrified of cars or that u might intentionally shoot yourself, go get the vaccine.pr2
- ^ The fact you can get dressed and tie your own shoes every day without parental assistance really is remarkable.
Because, wow, you really are a spacker.Continuity - conti, the fact that you can't comprehend a basic analogy is staggering.pr2
- wtf are you talking about pr2? No one said anything about being terrified. Your analogy is irrelevant to the post********
- Just flippin trolley levers over here********
- nb, seriously? you literally pointed out - correctly i might add - that the fear of vaccine's complications should be lesser than the covid death.pr2
- in turn, i point out where covid deaths fall as a possibility in relation to obscure events such as car crash or suicide.pr2
- seatbelts save livesmonospaced
- I literally always wear my seat belt in a car. Not because society says I should, but because I'm aware of the dangers of automobile accidents********
- Vaccines are like seatbelts. If you choose to wear one your chances of dying go down drastically. In rare cases seatbelts strangle someonemonospaced
- do you also put a cork in a barrel of a gun, you know just in case u had a desire to turn a barrel on yourself?pr2
- but jokes aside, if you are 65+ you SHOULD get the vaccine. If you are 50+, you might consider it, but anything below that, you are rolling the dice.pr2
- I would like to point out that no one is standing on the rails, not like irl.sted
- Btw well over 10x as many people in the US died from Covid-19 as from car crashes last year.********
- We all know we'll die someday, but I'm generally trying to minimize the chances of dying this year.********
- nb, that's not how the math works.pr2
- As if owning a gun somehow MAKES you suicidal. Come on man.********
- pr2 please don't tell us about how the math works. There are so many factors that goes into accident stats and suicides. You're just being a prick********
- And hey there are at least two other major vaccines outside of J+J. (Not to mention that blood clots have only affected women.)********
- my God, bro do you own a mirror? YOU are the one who started by posting a grossly oversimplified scenario.pr2
- I do not own a mirror. 100% of people who own mirrors die********
- The math doens't lie********
- Is it owning a mirror or looking into a mirror that poses the greater health risk?akiersky
- As a general rule, we all need to remember that pr2 is either a moron or a troll. You can lead a fool to reason but you can't make him think.garbage
- I think he actually thinks he's smart, which was mildly amusing for a bit. But I'm bored with it now.garbage
- "do you put a cork in the barrel of a gun [to prevent suicide]" is a thing he felt was a solid argument********
- two imbeciles, garbage and nb, patting each other's backs because between the 4 brain cells they posses they can construct a sentence.pr2
- lets play the fool's game: "a drawing of a trolley equates mortality" - this is nb's "solid" argument. Man, you really missed the day God distributed brains.pr2
- PR is earning his rubles. fight on, comrade!sarahfailin
- Can't you see that nobody is standing on the railway? cleary trollingsted
- Come on numbers guy, where u at?fyoucher1
- I think pr2 either enjoys being mocked, or actually doesn’t realize how stupid he comes off.monospaced
- flol stedNairn
- The question is: Do you want to pick up FIVE passangers or just pick up ONE********
- *passengers********
- The trolley clearly just gave them all the finger and drove past themscarabin
- 'sup numbers guy. I suck at math btw
- pr2-12
This argument will fly past the village idiots - we all know who they are - but it will be helpful for those who understands basic math.
Israel has 840k CONFIRMED covid cases and 6,300 deaths. That means that their covid death rates is 0.75%. Even if we assume that they indeed counted every case and every death (they didn't), their OFFICIAL death rare can be used to calculate how many ACTUAL cases there are withing everyone's particular community.
Yes, it IS a gross oversimplification but it gives at least a perspective on how bad each community has it (or had it).All you have to do it multiply your covid deaths by 135 and it will give you a pretty decent estimate of how many covid cases there were in your community. This is a conservative estimate - meaning there probably were more.
- Numbers mean shit after 1 year of this. Russia "reported" 100k deaths while the actual number was well over 300k in 2020 alone...not to mention Chinagrafician
- Brazil stopped reporting? latest were 3-4k deaths A DAY! Stop with these posts to downplay the seriousness of this epidemicgrafician
- just get vaccinated and move the fuck on to other stuff, please, damn!grafician
- grafi, lets hope the scientists designing he vaccines didn't have the same "numbers mean shit" mentality.pr2
- btw, u got some way to cherry pick your data... using Russia and China.pr2
- LOL so multiply case rate by a factor of over 100x to get real cases? No.monospaced
- *case rate = death ratemonospaced
- mono, i get it. my 5 year old has hard time multiplying numbers of more than 2 digits too.pr2
- Or you know, just consider 10x number of cases for a real count number, based on historic data.
Also above I used the numbers from the website YOU linked!grafician - ALSO if you REALLY like numbers, you'll see how they differ wildly based on country population, continent, culture, etc.
Israel, Sweden, NZ, are edge casesgrafician - ALSO "scientists designing he vaccines" thought nothing of numbers, 10 or 10M makes no difference if you're contracted to make a vaccine!grafician
- ALSO there are no "village idiots" - some of us here know a bit more or a bit less about various topics, so make your argument or don't, doesn't matter anywaygrafician
- I read a lot and posted almost daily in this thread, check it! But that doesn't make me a fucking scientist, so just present new info and leave it at that? tnxgrafician
- "historic data" - what world do you live in? what historic data? every half-decent country has decent enough reporting system that reflects reality.pr2
- No. Most if not all countries report # of cases based on tests, not on real spread, which is like I said at least 10x, this was speculated by various sourcesgrafician
- We will never know real number of infections - ever - as this contagion can also have no symptoms in many, agreed?grafician
- So why would you go and try to make wild assumptions based on inconclusive numbers?! Stop wasting your time, do something useful.grafician
- which numbers are inconclusive? is 0.75% from Israel "inconclusive"? and if it's so low there, why is California at 1.6%?pr2
- is California's healthcare somehow that much less efficient OR because Israel is better at testing thus closer to real numbers?pr2
- If you can’t figure out why California and Israel are different then you are truly lost. Omfg you have the most narrow view imaginable, and it’s wrong.monospaced
- bro, by now, according to the fear-mongers, whole world should have it and 40 million should be dead.pr2
- why aren't you questioning their awful data, and in the process also questing you original assumptions about the virus?pr2
- what awful data?monospaced
- the reason we don't have 40 million dead is because enough people are clueless, moronic science denying fucktards like you, who refuse to do the right thing.monospaced
- If the whole world was like you, then we would be in a much worse place. I wholeheartedly hope you eat your words in the worst possible scenario imaginable.monospaced
- robotinc16
Pr2's bad flu
Covid 19 deaths => 91.5 deaths per 100,000
Car accident deaths => 11.0 deaths per 100,000 people- you simpleton, if you had a working brain you would understand that per 100k deaths is NOT the same as chance of dying as postulated in one post above.pr2
- one day you'll ask yourself "why does no one listen to me?" then you'll realize your a little prick that doesn't know how to communicate properlyGuyFawkes
- so will half a dozen dimwits on this forum.pr2
- why waste time with dimwits seriously? look inside man, you cant fix us, but you can fix you.GuyFawkes
- i'm not wasting it with dimwits (though it is somehow rewarding pointing out their stupidity), i'm posting for those who are on the fence and want some clarity.pr2
- You’d think that since pr2 has the truth, and no other experts on the entire planet got it right, he would be considered a true genius.monospaced
- you're not going to sway anyone acting like that dude.GuyFawkes
- Guy, i'm not trying to sway anyone. Just provide some perspective - anyone can take it or leave it - i'm not running for an office here.pr2
- why is everyone talking to that dimwit?pango
- Ignore it and it will go away. It being pr2.MarleyMarl
- next level of dimwit-dom is repeating the same insult the others throw at you.pr2
- anybody "still on the fence" over a year later? need pr2's perspective to set you straight? no? looks like your work is done, mate. you can give it a restscarabin
- now that that's over, how 'bout those lakers? think they'll make it to the superbowl?scarabin
- On the fence about what!?!? On whether to act like there’s a reason to wear a mask!? You’d have to be a real piece of shit to act like you don’t need to.monospaced
- Fuck it, I'm still going to get my Vaxx on Thursday. I really need to boost my 5G signal in my place.utopian
- do u guys even know what advertising is or did i stumble into some Devry University chat group? people are on the fence for all sort of issues.pr2
- of course not the few of you who managed to put your head in your ass long ago and choose to keep it there.pr2
- no. my loud speaker is not lough enough to get to your ears through the layers of fat around your ass.pr2
- we've heard your every rant. you've reached 100% perspective saturation here. it was a heavy burden for you to bear but it's all behind you nowscarabin
- go forth into the world knowing you've successfully spread your message and can finally be freescarabin
- i'll stick around until the anti-science mob doesn't force my pre-K kid to wear mask to school.pr2
- lol i wonder what percent of the doctors in the world are against wearing masks. less than 0.01%? and the majority of the doctors are anti-science I guess.pango
- it must feel great knowing your noble mission is finally over. that everything you say going forward would just be repeating yourself, that your msg was heardscarabin
- and how brave of you to face us here on QBN, knowing that if you drill your message into us enough, the entire world will change so you don't have to teach yourscarabin
- kid about hygeinescarabin
- https://i.kym-cdn.co…scarabin
- If covid spread to 100% of the population, the death rate per 100k citizen would be even higher. If everyone was driving and living in their cars 24/7drgs
- Traffic accident rates would be even higher. Not sure who these two figures are comparabledrgs
- Like parking lot accident or high way accident? They all count as accidentspango
- scrabi, you don't even want to listen to the great "1984" book quotes, so what can I do to change YOUR "mind"? (quotes around the word mind used on purpose)pr2
- pango, you can't even understand that the pandemic is only 20-30% medical issue, can you?pr2
- it should be 100% medical except there are a bunch of fucktards going around making it political or personal, because they're snowflake science denying assholesmonospaced
- yes, I'm talking about youmonospaced
- Your 1984 quotes weren’t relevant and you’re too dumb to see why. But there you go again hero, you’re just repeating yourself. Take a rest, it’s all overscarabin
- Pr. Lol no I can't. I wasn't talking to you.pango
- honestly even if I were on the fence about anything you act like such a cunt I would most likely leap to whatever side you're not on. you say you want to changescarabin
- minds but you clearly have no ability to communicate or use reason. best to find some other avenue to stroke your fragile egoscarabin
- scrabin, this just proves the extremity of your idiocy - changing mind on serious issues only because some dude on the "internetz" pissed you off. wow.pr2
- OP317
Pr2, you are looking at the numbers blindly and have a very narrow viewpoint. Just bc the death rate is "low" you are not accounting for the amount of people who are still being hospitalized or have lingering effects. If there was a virus that gave you a broken arm i'm sure you wouldn't want to catch it. Covid still has an effect on people other than death.
I know this is pointless to point out to you as your opinion will not change, but neither will anyone else's who disagrees with you. Please stop trolling, bc you don't offer much to this website.
- it's about the bottom line, which is: in some communities - such as mine, 60%+ of people had it.pr2
- ANY virus can "break your arm" but how likely is it? THIS is what counts. If 60% of my community had it, how likely am i to "break my arm"?pr2
- Honestly wouldn't mind a broken arm********
- As long as it's not my right one loleryx
- BusterBoy3
So the J & J vaccine gets suspended with 6 or 7 cases of blood clots in over 7 million doses.
The chances of blood clots during child birth are MUCH higher than this. The chance of a DVT during air travel are higher.
This is crazy...just fucken vaccinate.
- The chances of getting a blood clot looking at some of the pics on QBN is greater.utopian
- thank the QBN anti-science mob. it goes both ways.pr2
- refusing the super-low odds of dying of covid is the same anti-science refusal of odds of vaccine complication.pr2
- Suspend all child birth and air travelsausages
- pr2 just posting through it like some kind of interstellar wingnut. God speed, and reach for the balloons you fucking maniac.face_melter
- so pfizer profits and jumps in. very interesting how the others pushed out of the game by themself?api
- only morons look at the possibility of death as the only factor in the equationmonospaced
- OBBTKN3
The data show that there are fewer venous sinus thrombi among those vaccinated with Janssen (0.9 cases / million) than among the general, unvaccinated population, which is 3-4 cases / million inhabitants.
Even if there has been a death caused by the vaccine, 0.14 deaths / million inhabitants compared to 1736 deaths / million from covid-19... 12,000 times more risk of dying if you do not get vaccinated.
- Even if there is a problem, they can correlate the likeklihood and offer it to people who won't be affected. ie. more than 50% of the population.Nairn
- More info here: https://www.bbc.com/…grafician
- So fucking stupid. I'm absolutely not a Brexiter, but seeing the AZ travesty within the EU/French context is super-embarrasing for them.Nairn
- "The Danish Health Authority said studies had shown a higher than expected frequency of blood clots following doses, affecting about one in 40,000 people."grafician
- oops. sorry, you weren't talking about the AZ vaccine, OBBTKN. Anyway, whatever, same reaction.Nairn
- "EU was discussing a new deal with Pfizer-BioNTech to deliver 1.8 billion doses in 2022 and 2023 which would all be produced within the EU."grafician
- grafician1
"MILAN (Reuters) - The EU Commission has decided not to renew COVID-19 vaccine contracts next year with AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson (J&J), Italian daily La Stampa reported on Wednesday, citing a source from the Italian health ministry."
- Yup, been reading this today.
"That'll help".Nairn - Germans say it's false report, so take it with a grain of salt - for now.
But would be glad to only see mRNA based vaccines from now on.grafician - higher price point but well there are some real benefits. so not a bad choice to go for more mRNA.api
- The delay of the J&J shot is just further proof humanity is too stupid to live.CyBrainX
- Yup, been reading this today.
- utopian1
Cancer patient saw disease all but vanish after catching Covid
Days after being told his chest was riddled with tumours and before starting treatment, the man was admitted to hospital after developing severe Covid. After making a full recovery, he had another scan and discovered the cancer had almost completely disappeared.
- Imagine in 20 years if we find out the vaccines cured cancer.********
- Imagine in 20 years if we find out the vaccines cured cancer.
- NBQ006
Alex Jones says 90% of people who take the vaccine will die within 10 years. Heheheheh.
- Is that because so many are 75+ years old right now, or because he likes making up alternative facts like some videographers around here?monospaced
- lolGuyFawkes
- And people follow him, heheutopian
- population controldbloc
- the culling has begunGuyFawkes
- the scientist expert has spokenKrassy
- 100% of people who take the vaccine will dieBaskerviIle
- Bet he's making serious $$ at mo selling vaccine antidotes.fadein11
- It’s long enough away that the people who hang on his words will have forgot he said it. Televangelist stylePhanLo
- Continuity2
Just got word from my GP that I can schedule my appointments for the Pfizer jab (Munich). Nice.
- Nairn2
"Risk of Clots Higher With Covid Than After Vaccine, Study Says"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…
Where's that 'four stages of clown meme' when you need it?
- What about 5G?utopian
- Risk of 5G remains the same********
- we will need new vaccines for 6G in a few years...grafician
- I'm mostly made of water, so I think I'm ok where 5G's concerned. 6G tho? Shiieet.Nairn
- 6G Chess********
- I wonder if people with family history of strokes should hold off for a bit. (or anything else you can suffer as a result of a blood clot).SteveJobs
- Given the choice between blood clots and Covid, let's see humanity's common sense in action. Add to that the literal one in a million chance of clots from J&J.CyBrainX
- Krassy3
Pfizer CEO says third Covid vaccine dose likely needed within 12 months ... and it’s possible people will need to get vaccinated against the virus annually
- Good business move.BabySnakes
- Invest in Pfizer and you’ll be immune to povertyGnash
- für Ihre SicherheitKrassy
- Everyone knew this from the beginning. The vaccine was never once for life.monospaced
- mono is a pharma shillNBQ00
- Except I’m not.monospaced
- people will need to get vaccinated against the virus analy?dbloc
- ^ they already do in ChinaKrassy
- mathinc3
Conservatives: I refuse to live in fear!
Also, Conservatives: I need dozens of AR-15 rifles to protect myself!
- Pretty muchpango
- Also scared of immigrants, the devil, social good, and gay people. Go figure.monospaced
