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- _niko-4
Here's an interesting take on gun control that could be easily applied to anti-maskers ie, smoking in public places and drunk driving. We don't do both of those things any more because it hurts others, same with masks, it doesn't so much protect you but it helps protect others.
- The heat lamps design and fake knockoff Eames chairs is just such a bizarre shitty set********
- Definitely not watching because these two are tried and true morons.garbage
- ^ yup. no thanks.inteliboy
- lol I was going to say something like "whatever you think of these two bell-ends" but piers is pretty good here_niko
- The Dunning–Kruger effect on full display.utopian
- did the guy actually say: "Let's limit the number of knifes to limit knife crimes?"pr2
- The heat lamps design and fake knockoff Eames chairs is just such a bizarre shitty set
- utopian2
The company Trump awarded $1.3B has produced nothing!
A year after a Connecticut company was awarded almost $1.3 billion in federal loans and contracts to supply an essential syringe for COVID-19 vaccines, none have been made.
- Projectile1
LOL this is a new level of stupid!
Brought to you by the same muppets that will protest a track and trace app of "vaccine passports"
- if only there was a way to trick your immune system in to believing its had covid without getting sick or infecting otherskingsteven
- Haha, this is mad. Those bloody anti-vaxxersIanbolton
- I don’t think polio gives a fuck about your child’s immune systemIanbolton
- kingsteven3
Got a nice little buzz off that AZ vaccine for a few hours yesterday morning and was waiting for some side effects that never came. just a tender arm this morning. Overall a fun experience, 7/10 will vaccinate again.
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congrats, it wiped me out for 2 days and I don't say that lightly as I push on through most illness. I've read it may be related to having had the virus?fadein11 - as stressed before though, it wasn't bad enough to put me off having it remotely.fadein11
- remotely ha, I wasn't referring to 5Gfadein11
- I think we had it December 2019 but can't be sure. Girlfriend got hers yesterday afternoon and its like she's come off a 3 day cocaine and wine benderkingsteven
- ha I drank through day 2 and was gone day3, yes my girlfriend struggled also but I had it worse.fadein11
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- utopian0
U.S. Covid-19 Factoids
• On average 85,000 people a day are contracted Covid-19
• On average 700 people a day are dining from Covid-19
• Tens of million of American's refuse to get vaccinated
• Herd immunity not likely until early to late 2022
- 700 people dining like they haven't been to a restaurant in a year!Krassy
- thanks to the mask resisting, science skewing bobos out theremonospaced
- At least 80mil of Americans had it. In some parts of the country, 60-75% had it (at 75% you have proven heard immunity). Then why vaccinate unless you are 65+?pr2
- or from the areas where many still didn't have it?pr2
- "At least 80mil" is just your estimate. No proof that any spot has had 60-75% infection of population.monospaced
- 0.4-0.7 is now widely accepted IFR number. Go do your own calculations and see for yourself.pr2
- NYC has 60-75% infection rate in Quees and Brooklyn.pr2
- pr2 care to post some sources to back up your numbers?robotinc
- here is one meta-analysis (IFR 0.7%):
https://pubmed.ncbi.…pr2 - Another one from WHO (IFR 0.27%):
https://www.who.int/…pr2 - Queens in NYC has 10k deaths. If we assume IFR of 0.5% that gives us 2mil infection (out of population of 2.3 mil).pr2
- IFR is a different discussion from infection rates though.monospaced
- u can deduct one from another.pr2
- it takes too many estimated from really wide reports. And not a single source even likes using an average IFR because they vary a lot by age.monospaced
- It’s nonexistent with young people and super high with old. And it’s not really connected to how the virus spreads.monospaced
- IFR of 0-40 is pretty much 0. up to 55 it's the flu levels and around 65+ it skyrockets, so indeed IFR taken by itself is a mistake.pr2
- but the above quoted numbers are general averages, which in population with average age spread, give you a good starting point.pr2
- But it’s wildly different from county to county. Averages are where you’re getting all fucked up.monospaced
- IFR of the disease isn't that different if you compare apples to apples. Compare 1st world country to 1st world country and you gonnan be in ballpark.pr2
- that's why u want meta-analysis not just one study that often deals with just one region.pr2
- Krassy1
India: 315,802 new cases and 2,102 deaths yesterday !
- India will become a slaughterhouse. Deaths will be in hundreds of thousands.pr2
- Unless they start wearing masks and taking stricter precautions to curb the spread. Of course.monospaced
- cloth masks provide almost zero level of protection. if less densely populated countries still have a huge spread - there is no hope for India.pr2
- the only thing that can save them is massive inoculation, otherwise 1mil + deaths.pr2
- But masks do help. A lot.monospaced
- As a reminder that a pandemic is going on (a form of social control through messaging) - yes, but on physical ability to contain the virus - definitive no.pr2
- lol @ definitivemonospaced
- mono, you want me to to another meta-analysis at you or you will be humble enough to do your own research?pr2
- I wonder if your'e the kind of Karen that tells doctors and dentists that masks are useless too. Research my ass, you're a fucking videographer.monospaced
- sonny, that's why you give voice to experts. you won't find ONE meta-analysis of cloth mask efficiency that show they work. not even one.pr2
- Oh yes an expert is what we need. Plz get over here. Thx!
https://www.qbn.com/…pango - so, why do medical staff wear masks when around patients?monospaced
- dude, didn't we go over this question a few weeks back?pr2
- Do you tell your doctors or dentist that the mask they wear has no met-analysis showing effectiveness? Do you, Karen?monospaced
- well, pr2 did you answer it? or did you avoid it with insults like you always do? such a smart guy thing to do. Definitely make you seem smart.pango
- He will call you mentally challenged before actually realizing this entire site considers him a quacktard pseudoscience anti mask emotional Karen of Karen’s.monospaced
- Mono, since you need some spelling help: G-O-O-G-L-E it and you will find your answer. But then you don't really care, do you?pr2
- hey pr2 i can't seem to find the answer to this on google. help!
https://www.qbn.com/…pango - I did google it, and it turns out the entire medical community wears them to protect people from the spread of germs. I guess that means you're retarded.monospaced
- I wear a mask, like doctors do, because I care. You don't wear a mask because you don't care, and you don't care because you're a heartless, selfish cunt.monospaced
- I know this, everyone here knows this, and soon your child will know it.monospaced
- ya i just checked. the consensus in the medical community Is still "pr2 is an idiot"pango
- Krassy0
Brazil: 71,910 new cases and 3,157 deaths yesterday !
- Brazil is over it's cusp. From now on, the cases will start droping (they are where US was in mid january)pr2
- you do know the numbers started dropping because of vaccinations, right? you can't compare Brazil to the US in that regardKrassy
- lol pr2 AKA Captain Covidiot is back, Remember not all heroes wear masksfadein11
- Kras, the bumps in cases and deaths happen for all sort of reason, US had two declines BEFORE vaccine.pr2
- fad, i'm not even gonna indulge you stupidity. you looking in the mirror would frighten you.pr2
- Declines because people wore masks, but peaks because fucktard bobo deniers didn’t. Vaccinations are helping immensely. So are masks.monospaced
- Mono, this is not why the peaks happen.pr2
- The peaks were because the virus spread quickly. Period.monospaced
- That's 3 periods, got that dr2?!GuyFawkes
- Oh there you are pr2
Get over here we need you!
https://www.qbn.com/…pango - pango, unlike mono who's insults are actually decent (in this convo we kept it civil), yours are so lame that i don't bother.pr2
- there is just no fun insulting a mentally challenged child.pr2
- you're an asshatmonospaced
- lol sure, sure. or is it because you have no idea what you're talking about so you resort to insult instead of answering my question from the beginning? LOLpango
- such a smart guy, you prefer to talk shit all over the place instead of answering 2 questions.pango
- pando, you are a child who comes with a finger up his nose asking "why are buggars so delicious" then wondering why u get no answers?pr2
- :) sure. so do you have any answer to how soon this anti body gonna kick in? https://www.qbn.com/…pango
- you trash talk all over the place but seem like you cant actually don't know what you're talking about.pango
- instead of actually answering the question you can only trash talk cuz you don't know shit.pango
- yes i'm a dumb child ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ wowowowowow. we established that. now answer my question. here's the ling to help you out.pango
- https://www.qbn.com/…pango
- PhanLo1
Have been working in various shop/bar refits over the last few weeks and today was up in the city centre where the bars are building raised decking areas outside so folk can get on the sauce from Monday.
It's going to be bedlam if the weather is good.
There's nothing quite like paying £8-9 a pint to drink in the street.
- utopian0
India reported 332,730 new cases on Friday, marking the highest daily case count globally. The United States is second, having recorded a high of 300,310 cases on January 2.
Like a Miracle...
- grafician1
"‘Excess deaths’ in 2020 surpassed those of the 1918 flu pandemic"
- This is normal. Just ask any asshat moron.monospaced
- Yeah I won't believe it until pr2 weighs in with his two brain cells.garbage
- garbage in garbage's brain, garbage out of garbage's mouth.pr2
- Since it's NYT i'm certain they selectively cherry-pick data to create a narrative that spews fear. Those people have zero interest in science or truth.pr2
- Right right, they're not woke like you. We get it.garbage
- Yeah garbage mind, cause no organization is doing it nowdays... yeah. You got some truly tuna can understanding of the world's dynamics.pr2
- lol look at this clown blanket claiming nytimes is fear mongering like an asshatmonospaced
- NBQ000
They better stop the flights in/ out of India because of Indian virus mutant which is apparently the most dangerous.
- ********3
Each day, the government reports more than 300,000 new infections, a world record, and India is now seeing more new infections than any other country by far, almost half of all new cases in a global surge.
But experts say those numbers, however staggering, represent just a fraction of the real reach of the virus’s spread, which has thrown this country into emergency mode. Millions of people refuse to even step outside — their fear of catching the virus is that extreme. Accounts from around the country tell of the sick being left to gasp for air as they wait at chaotic hospitals that are running out of lifesaving oxygen.
The sudden surge in recent weeks, with an insidious newer variant possibly playing a role, is casting increasing doubt on India’s official Covid-19 death toll of nearly 200,000, with more than 2,000 people dying every day.
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“It’s a complete massacre of data,” said Bhramar Mukherjee, an epidemiologist at the University of Michigan who has been following India closely. “From all the modeling we’ve done, we believe the true number of deaths is two to five times what is being reported.”
At one of the large cremation grounds in Ahmedabad, a city in the western Indian state of Gujarat, bright orange fires light up the night sky, burning 24 hours a day, like an industrial plant that never shuts down. Suresh Bhai, a worker there, said he had never seen such a never-ending assembly line of death.
Read this and look at the photographs. POwerful.
- its nuts, we may go from 3 to 5 mil covid deaths globally in a matter of months. and the UK govt promoting a 'mask free summer'kingsteven
- please, please, please find a smarter source of info than NYT. That's like eating McDonalds for your nutritional needs.pr2
- this comment is not even about our disagreement about covid but rather than you purposefully make mush of your mind with NYT.pr2
- thatpr2
- Well most likely this is what China had at the beginning of the pandemic, but didn't disclose.grafician
- That’s so fucking horrific._niko
- pr2 videotaped a couple doctors and thinks he’s smarter than the epidemiologist and all the journalists involved in this piece.********
- Lol if nyt is MacDonald’s, your sources are the rat infested dumpsters behind macdonakds_niko
- Should we going to trust the epidemiologist from the University of Mich. or the random videographer with no credentials at all? HMMMMM********
- *Are********
- i'm definitely smarter than a few of you "gentlemen" who in XXI century believe in impartially of media behemoths.pr2
- Oh wait, i used big words, so let me simplify: cave - you - in - has - a door - you - don't - want - to - see.pr2
- (of course none of the dummies will get the allusion)pr2
- pr2 hasn’t posted a source here in months. He posts numbers without source and a lot of “oh I talked to people” bullshit. Ignorant fool.********
- Then he calls us cavemen and wonders why no one listens to him! Hahaha I feel bad for you son********
- nb i'm so sorry for mixing the two of you up a few weeks ago :D pr2 i don't read any of this shite, i just look at stats as close to source and i've been wrongkingsteven
- (to my credit usually optimistically) multiple times in the last year based on interpreting scientific papers. you have a point here and there but the fact youkingsteven
- keep posting, it serves no purpose other than iconoclasm and is only testament to your own stupiditykingsteven
- nb, just cause you can't read, don't blame others for your own shortcoming.pr2
- king, i keep posting to offset some people's complete ignorance. the fact that i have to explain how basic math works...pr2
- ... or how basics of body immunity work is just shameful.pr2
- there are cartoons about human body that my 5 yo watches that make him smarter than some here and that's just disturbing.pr2
- how often do you win arguments with your 5 year old? :D if you think you have facts lay them out and let others argue it, no need to stoke the firekingsteven
- The NYT isn't perfect but lol @ thinking a story can be totally dismissed just because it appears in one of the biggest papers in the country.yuekit
- As a filmmaker surely you understand these stories are created by regular journalists, photographers etc, working in difficult conditions.yuekit
- pr2 has gone Full Karen.********
- For the record, you have not needed to, or even remotely “explained how basic math works,” you dumb fucking piece of ignorant shit.monospaced
- You don’t wear a mask because you don’t like it. You think anyone who does is a victim of fear mongering. You skew numbers for this agenda. Idiot.monospaced
- Oh, and using XXI for 21st makes you look even more stupid than deathboy, even though you thought you looked smart. You goddamn joke.monospaced
- Ramanisky20
lol
- jus filming...jus filming lolutopian
- ^lol, its like the hamster stopped spinning the wheel.Ramanisky2
- That’s every anti-Vaxxer don’t need to add mentally unbalanced, that’s a given._niko
- oey_oey1
Got my first vaccine today.
BioNTech.
So far so good.- NSync Bio********
- putting the NT in biontechkingsteven
- You got the good one.NBQ00
- B E Y O N D T E C Hgrafician
- Awesome now you have access to qbn pro_niko
- Cool, where's the link?oey_oey
- it is inside you nowESKEMA
- your ring-piece is now a QR codekingsteven
- QBN Pro can only be accessed using the latest 5G coverage from the latest vaccines
you're welcomegrafician - My internet works better and I can see the gifs in QBNoey_oey
- 5G activated clubsea_sea
- NSync Bio
- NBQ002
So what happens if let’s say the Indian mutation of the virus is immune to the vaccines? Will this state we’re in go on forever? Forever lockdowns, restrictions, restaurants & bars closed, no or limited traveling, etc.?
- pajeet my son********
- what science has been saying for over a year, coronavirus is now endemic. more vaccines this winterkingsteven
- @kingsteven what science? I’m genuinely interested. Who is saying this? Got some links?********
- old article from feb 4 2020 https://www.statnews…kingsteven
- more recent paper: https://www.bmj.com/…kingsteven
- i don't think they had seen the 'double mutation' by then, but all that means is that it has both the US mutation and the SA/Brazil - what's happening inkingsteven
- india and brazil is thought to be from dwindling heard immunity to a first wave AND a new strain (ie. a true second wave) hopefully we'll be preparedkingsteven
- king, "dwindling heard immunity" = what??? Not even 10% of Indian population got the virus yet. In a month or so, Brazil will be where US is now (safe).pr2
- (safe-ish)pr2
- 5% reinfection rate in cities you fucking dote. The virus is spreading through the same communities as last time infecting the same people.kingsteven
- ie. 5% that have it this time had it before, previous 'waves' are just spread. this one is an endmic wave similar to the other coronaviruseskingsteven
- pick your side pr2, you would seem to be big on 'like the flu' but here your suggesting that covid magically does not act like all other coronaviruseskingsteven
- pajeet my son
- NBQ001
Nevada teen suffers seizures, brain clots, receives 3 surgeries after Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine: https://abc7.com/health/nevada-t…
- grafician-1
JUST IN: India coronavirus variant case reported in Switzerland
OH SHIT HERE WE GO AGAIN
- You think it will spread to Romania?NBQ00
- By "we" I mean everywhere!grafician
- Anyway Pfizer already said "get ready for a 3rd shot if this thing continues" so that's thatgrafician
- A lot of countries still have flights going on to and from India so no wonder.NBQ00
- and yes, we are at an impass, as you said, we'll drag this shit over and over because countries have different mitigation measures unfortunatelygrafician
- Hey. Umph. Yo. One more time. Rewind. Here we go AGAIN! BOOM Corona in your face!shapesalad
- grafician4
- That’s because there weren’t very serious travel bans! Maybe Vietnam was serious. They’ll kill you for less.monospaced
- fuck voxinteliboy
- @mono you're right, stopping travel until developing vaccines would've curbed this to a halt, but nooo, ppl need their vacays smhgrafician
- I was partly joking, but yes, people traveled.monospaced
- The diff was trump in power 1st story. That and vox is a jokeGnash
- Of course travel bans workGnash
- No he was not in power last week. What?monospaced
- Oh, I see. ;)monospaced
- Vox has a very strong bias. Opinion articles aren’t worth reading.********
