Shooting of the Day
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- Ramanisky29
- LOL?DRIFTMONKEY
- lol!sarahfailin
- wowkona
- pretty muchGuyFawkes
- Nutter6
"Nothing can be done about it"
1. Start by not selling ammo to those weapons.
2. Create a "weapon refund policy" where turning in a weapon gives you a certain amount of money back. The weapon is then disposed of.
3. Ban selling new weapons of that type to regular people.
Sure it will take a long time to correct things, but its pretty simple steps.
- Nothing wrong with these steps. It just feels like this is phase 2 after regulating the sale of existing sales (ID, vouchers, etc)monospaced
- That much is obvious - buy backs are how Aus and NZ dealt with it when their time came. The problem in the How is clearly cultural, not practical.Nairn
- There have been localized buy backs and drop offs for weapons and it has been very successful. Many cities have totally outlawed weapons. It is possible.monospaced
- Easiest problem to solve ever.nb
- A few people in this country think that banning these guns is unfair and a greater punishment than a parent losing their child forever. FUCK YOUnb
- A more radical step would be make the weapon manufacturer financially responsible every time one of their weapons were used in a mass shooting.Nutter
- Nearly every American supports background checks and limits on assault rifles. The govt allows children to be murdered in exchange for senate seatsnb
- Since capital seems to be everything, that would change the supply of those weapons.Nutter
- You’re not wrong about that.monospaced
- Outlaw lobbying by gun groups/manufacturers would end a lot, too, and most would support that.formed
- But what person would support Citizens United? The Supreme Court needs to die.formed
- @formed, so far, no republican leadership has, despite a hundred children deadmonospaced
- 3d printed weapons are just around the cornerdrgs
- I’d love it if everyone had to 3D print and build their own damn guns.monospaced
- renderedred2
she seems normal, right?
- Why do ppl lose their mind into their later years, is it the culture change if you are an immigrant, money or fame? She was clearly not well.helloeatbreathedrive
- 3 innocent lives lost :(helloeatbreathedrive
- give me your tears gypsyGuyFawkes
- ironically, her vids are getting tons of hits nowGnash
- LOL @Fawkesrenderedred
- bewbsmonospaced
- @helloeatbreathedriv... Only person dead is the shooter. (insert dark humored shoots like a girl joke here)GM278
- ^ you are right, 3 injured, my mistake. still its a tough day. sorry again - this kinda shit just pisses me off.helloeatbreathedrive
- Getting pissed off is a sane and rational response. An irrational one is to shrug and say "oh well" and go back to jerking off to your NRA membership card.GM278
- Wait, she was the shooter!? Her videos have been posted here many times because of their oddity. It seemed like she was doing smtng artistic.Beeswax
- You know criticising patriarchal society by absurdly erotic videos etc. But gun violence!?Beeswax
- so youtube put an age restriction on her videos and she got pissed according to this
https://www.youtube.…Beeswax - iWoodutopian
- Seems she had a gripe with YouTube taking away her monitisation or not promoting/showing her videos to people.microkorg
- It's at times like these I wonder what OMG would have thought about this.PhanLo
- Cracking knockers!Hayzilla
- colin_s7
45 days in to the year, 29 mass shootings, 8 of which took place at schools. Good job, America, 2018.
- Unfortunately, I think that number is much higher than 8.Ramanisky2
- #ShitholeUSAGuyFawkes
- It is being reported that 4 of them were schoolsdbloc
- lol, every news outlet is reporting a different #dbloc
- yeah I heard as high as 18 school shootings so far.Ramanisky2
- As a fellow QBN’er pointed out: the fact that this site has a “shooting of the Day” thread is the fact that this shit is that common, and more importantly...lvl_13
- ...completely fucked up. So sad.lvl_13
- America is not even capable of tracking their school shooting count.mekk
- #MAGAelahon
- shellie7
Smh it seems so unsafe to send kids to public schools in the US. Are the partents here worried? editorially ones that aren't school age yet.
Will you make changes to your school plan? Are you going to train your kids at home about how to handle an active shooter situations, other weapons, and about harder drugs earlier on? I'm curious -- I do not have children but I often think about what I might do if I did. I think also about how I might handle the topic of police, because my future children would be unmistakably black which adds another layer of danger when out in the streets.#itscomplicated
- Awful. Just fucking awfulfadein11
- What parents have to do in warzones, get ya shit together Americafadein11
- *Editorially = especiallyshellie
- #ThirdWorldutopian
- Worried everyday.R_Kercz
- I think most High Schools do practice active shooter drills these days.fooler
- ^ seems like kids need to be taught day 1 of school, sometimes before. Scared, lost children that don't know what to do are in tons of danger seems like.shellie
- I never paid much attention to drills I always felt like it was for the teachers. My emergency training came from mom and firefighter family members.shellie
- Horrified as the problem will not end. The gun lobby will never cave. I'm looking into moving to Japan to raise my boys.stoplying
- Hayzilla3
Sorry. I'm starting to really become desensitised to shootings in America. I think, well this is how they want to live. They aren't willing to give up guns so must suffer the repercussions. Sad.
- True the USA is crazy about guns, on the other hand, nobody has ever colonized an plundered like the good old Brits.robotron3k
- ^ Are you still colonising yourself then? Interesting fact!Hayzilla
- #robotard3KKKRamanisky2
- https://en.wikipedia…dmay
- robotron3k: What does that have to do with what he's talking about? I don't understand the reason for your "they did it first" reaction... weird.sofakingback
- I agree, Americans love it. I think in a strange way Americans love hearing that theres been a mass shooting. I think they love knowing theres a bad guy...sofakingback
- around the corner. It's indoctrination, from movies, to stories, to speeches. You name it. The hero always fighting evil. Americans need villains to be heroessofakingback
- Im a peace loving goth - but I actually get why american's feel the need for guns and dont mind it.
Guns arent the problem, the world is mentally unstablemugwart - Gun deaths are caused by people that are not mentally Ill as well. Police officer kills a suspect, kid playing with dads gun, robbery, altercation, etc.sofakingback
- This is true. They make a lot of money from this mentality. Problem is it is bitting them in the arse. But where in the world is there not major issuesmugwart
- I really don't agree with this mental illness angle. EVERY country has a lot of mentally ill people. But they don't have access to guns. Guns are the problem!Hayzilla
- Guns are the problem? Funny...that clown who just ran over 8 peop used a truck...the orig. 9-11 twats used box cutters...England has hat it's share of knifers..PonyBoy
- ... maybe if people stopped blaming inanimate objects instead of the people using them this world would make more sensePonyBoy
- Not sure people in America want to live in fear of gin crime @hayzilla. True it sucks but to generalize is pretty fucking purileDaveO
- @PonyBoy. Do you think that powerful groups like the NRA share any blame for fear mongering and promoting the necessity of gun ownership?Morning_star
- No...I don’t. If they were promoting mass murder, armed robbery etc then I’d have a problem—but they’re standing by a Right in our law—that’s not fear mongeringPonyBoy
- I beg to differ. http://adage.com/art…Morning_star
- Hayzilla, I'm feeling the same way which is sad, my wife mentioned the Texas shooting last night and we both had the same "oh" reaction.ben_
- Morning... you're crying over one Ad when nearly every fucking TV show / Movie and Video Game being sold / played is damn near pure violence...PonyBoy
- ... one AD about the real timeframe for an actual emergency and you call it fear mongering? Are you even living in reality?PonyBoy
- Yep. A reality where: guns are illegal, we can trust the police and a have sensible approach to age sensitive media. (BTW i can link to at least 20 separate...Morning_star
- ...NRA campaigns that play on the fears and paranoia of idiot Americans.)Morning_star
- I’m sorry... guns are illegal? What conversation are we having?PonyBoy
- kona4
Similarly,
Who gives a fuck if North Korea has nukes? Nukes don't kill people, people kill people.
See how fucking stupid that sounds?
- hah . also nukes are actually defense weapons unlike assault riflesBeeswax
- You mean... defense rifles.
lolkona - people quite literally give the reason for owning them as "defense"monospaced
- the military industrial complex hates this!moldero
- The problem is the man behind.ApeRobot
- Education is the key.ApeRobot
- I include parenting.ApeRobot
- Fucking sudafed is regulated
but bullet spraying weapons aren't yeah makes total sense.Ramanisky2 - why should one party have nukes and not the other? because your govt doesn't like their govt? its cool we have them but no to others? lololimbecile
- Educate the mentally ill. Good luck! :DBennn
- lol, start the internet sensation: Nukes are not the problem, people are.sofakingback
- omg-2
Photos emerge of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock’s body....and there is a NOTE
- a love letter to Hillary?moldero
- I saw someone on another site say that was a bathtub... It's not, but what is it?mg33
- something about Kaepernick and kneeling during the National Anthem?Ramanisky2
- 2 chairs facing each otherGuyFawkes
- It's a print out of Hillary's emails. (just helping robo/omg out)capn_ron
- That's a giant pen.elahon
- Comfirmed 2 chairs set up as a makeshift barricade. He knew the cops were coming.CygnusZero4
- white socks and loafers.Gnash
- Leak because someone got paid.
Ya... no need to see this. Serbs no purpose for the general public.pango - ^ I don't think he was a serb, name's pretty angloGnash
- Ugggh. *serves.pango
- iSpy a hammer. what is that blue thing?omg
- How can someone carry that many weapons into a hotel room without getting noticed?Beeswax
- he was there for a week -- could probably fit 10 in a big suitcaseGnash
- Happy St. Paddock’s Day!utopian
- Rifles are easily disassembled - no hassle to carry them in pieces and put them together afterwards.face_melter
- carried them in with 10 bags. i wonder how many trips it took.omg
- The note says : "I hate country music"i_was
- it's his room service order: "pls send up more ammo"hans_glib
- Ramanisky28
- much insight
very helpimbecile - what does the (((( )))) mean -- I see that occasionally - is it code for something ?Gnash
- https://www.theguard…dorfsman
- ^ @Gnashdorfsman
- holy fuck that is some scary shit, dorfmonospaced
- (((imbecile)))imbecile
- oh, damn :/
kinda cool that people are using it on their own names, though.Gnash - Should surprise no one. In US, 100 people die EVERY DAY in vehicle accidents. Only the related care. Guns & gun deaths are an integral part of American culture.BustySaintClaire
- much insight
- moldero6
Don't worry Georges, french trump will fix everything
- FrumpRamanisky2
- "I'll nom the people" is what her sign says.sarahfailin
- ISIS taking tour of Champs Elysees this eveDillinger
- "I've sucked cock this big!"pango
- i will fuck you so bad, that your asshole will be that large.ApeRobot
- Le Pen is mightier than the horderobthelad
- Aye mon thenset
- instrmntl3
It was just a routine workers’ compensation fraud case for Ken Sheppard. Show up for a spot check, do some surveillance of the subject and keep it pushing. But on March 3, 2014, it was anything but routine for the renowned private investigator known for busting reality TV series “Bridezillas” star Anita Maxwell for insurance fraud.
On location in Montrose, California, a city with just under 20,000 residents and less than one percent of them African-American, Mr. Sheppard was conducting regular surveillance of a subject while parked in his black Chevy Tahoe.
It wasn’t long before a black and white, Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department cruiser materialized while Mr. Sheppard was in his car working in this city of very few Blacks.
The Tahoe Mr. Sheppard was sitting in had side and rear tinted windows and was registered and insured for $three million dollars in policy coverage.
It’s important to note that in subsequent court documents filed in federal court, Deputy Plunkett, as he was identified, had not been called to the scene by a neighbor or any other witness. No person alerted Deputy Plunkett’s station of suspicious activity in the area. He was just there.
Deputy Plunkett exited his vehicle walking along the drivers’ side of the Tahoe, with his weapon drawn. Upon seeing Deputy Plunkett’s approach, Mr. Sheppard rolled the driver’s side window down and exposed his hands, demonstrating that there was no cause for alarm.
In response to Deputy Plunkett’s question concerning his activities, Mr. Sheppard advised that he was sitting in his vehicle working. Deputy Plunkett asked, “why?” making no mention of having noticed tinted windows, nor any issue with license plates. Deputy Plunkett next asked if Mr. Sheppard was engaged as a “P.I. or something.”
Mr. Sheppard next asked Deputy Plunkett whether it appeared that Mr. Sheppard was doing something wrong to which the deputy admitted that he “did not know.”
With his weapon still drawn, Deputy Plunkett then placed his left hand on Mr. Sheppard’s left wrist. Mr. Sheppard asked Mr. Plunkett to “please remove” his hand from Mr. Sheppard’s person. Deputy Plunkett refused this request, used his radio and proceeded to ignore Mr. Sheppard’s repeated demands for the intervention of Deputy Plunkett’s Watch Commander.
As the video shows, Mr. Sheppard asked Deputy Plunkett at least eight times to call in a Watch Commander to the location.
While holding Mr. Sheppard’s wrist, Deputy Plunkett was visibly shaking, to the point that Mr. Sheppard could feel and observe the tremors emanating from Deputy Plunkett’s hand. Mr. Sheppard repeated his request that Deputy Plunkett holster his weapon.
According to Mr. Sheppard, in order to make sure that he could properly hear any commands from Deputy Plunkett, he raised his left hand in full view of the deputy and removed a Bluetooth earpiece, from his left ear. His ear was also facing Deputy Plunkett.
It’s at this point that Deputy Plunkett points his Beretta 92F at the side of Mr. Sheppard’s head toward his left temple while shouting “do not fucking be reaching.” At some point, prior to holstering his weapon, Deputy Plunkett “cocked” the hammer of his weapon, while continuing to point the weapon less than one foot from Mr. Sheppard’s temple.
It’s about this time that the videos a second deputy arriving at the location and joining Deputy Plunkett’s side. Deputy Rodriguez, as she was later identified, also had her weapon drawn, in a low ready position. A few moments later, Sergeant Hollis arrived at which point Mr. Sheppard informed Deputy Rodriguez and Sergeant Hollis of everything that had transpired to that point in time. Mr. Sheppard also advised Sergeant Hollis that he was “Code 5,” a reference to his work as a private investigator and the fact that he was actively involved in a legal investigation.
Through all of this, as the video shows, Deputy Plunkett continues to shake with his Beretta still pointed at Mr. Sheppard’s left temple. No one tells him to lower his weapon or to stand down.
Mr. Sheppard told Deputy Rodriguez and Sergeant Hollis that Deputy Plunkett still had his gun pointed at his head, despite the fact that Deputy Plunkett had neither identified nor articulated a crime in commission.
A second female deputy, later learned to be Deputy Hanson, approached the scene with Mr. Sheppard with her taser drawn. Deputy Plunkett continued to point his weapon, hand shaking, Mr. Sheppard’s left temple. Mr. Sheppard continued to strictly comply with all directives, to the best of his ability. He did have a gun pointed at his head and now a taser.
The video shows Sergeant finally advising Deputy Plunkett to stand down. Sergeant Hollis specifically asked Deputy Plunkett to explain what happened but Deputy Plunkett refuses to answer.
And while you might think that’s the end of the drama, it’s not.
Without a warrant, deputies attempted to inspect the contents of and even entered Mr. Sheppard’s vehicle. After his field frisk, Mr. Sheppard was placed into the backseat of Deputy Plunkett’s cruiser. It’s at this point that Deputy Hanson gets into the front seat of the cruiser and asks Mr. Sheppard what he was doing in the area because, according to her, Mr. Sheppard “did not belong in the area.”
Court documents and video would reveal that Los Angeles Sherriff’s deputies then actually conspired to fabricate charges on Mr. Sheppard after they realized that he was clean as was his vehicle.
“During the course of the next several minutes, the Deputies on scene conspired to concoct a citable offense against Mr. Sheppard. These law enforcement officials attempted to justify Deputy Plunkett’s actions, ex post facto. Most critically, Deputy Hanson and Deputy Ramirez drafted a citation that was ultimately signed by Deputy Plunkett. Neither Deputy Hanson nor Deputy Ramirez was willing to personally sign the citation, after engaging in a lengthy discussion concerning the contents of said citation. As she was attempting to creatively fashion charges to be brought against Mr. Sheppard within the aforementioned citation, Deputy Hanson stated, ‘please, just let me taser him!’”
None of this would be known today if Mr. Sheppard had not been a P.I. on a surveillance job. For whatever reason, once the deputies learned that he was a legitimate private investigator in the middle of a legal investigation—they never thought that he might have devices recording audio or video.
Mr. Sheppard was not arrested. He was given one ticket for tinted windows and no license plate. His Tahoe did have a temporary registration in the windshield and paper license plates on the back of the vehicle as required by law at the time of the incident.
On April 20, 2015, Mr. Sheppard filed a civil lawsuit in federal court for violation of his constitutional rights, assault, battery, false imprisonment, intentional infliction of emotional distress and various other charges.
The trial took place last week in Los Angeles September 13 through September 15 before the Honorable S. James Otero. After hearing the evidence and viewing a small portion of the video evidence provided by Mr. Sheppard, a jury of 8 persons found in favor of the sheriff’s department.
Mr. Sheppard plans to appeal the verdict. He is currently working on the Suge Knight murder case and two high profile cases of deaths involving the Los Angeles Police Department—Ezell Ford who shot and killed in South L.A. in 2014 by the LAPD and Wakiesha Wilson who died while in the custody of the LAPD on Easter Sunday.
It is unknown whether any of the Crescenta Valley Station deputies on scene faced disciplinary action.
- http://www.jasmyneac…instrmntl
- Sheppard is very lucky to be alive. That deputy wanted squeeeeeeze that trigger so so badly. Man that was tense.Ramanisky2
- https://www.youtube.…utopian
- Finger on the trigger, not good. Completely unnecessary in that situation.IRNlun6
- was this cop get his training on a gangster movie set?yurimon
- after watching that vid how could a jury find in favour of the sheriffs dept? that cop should be behind a desk, not dealing with humansGnash
- The more I see the less respect I have for police. The training is ridiculous.formed
- depends on who you pick for the jury. does jury system work with a dumbed down population?yurimon
- Dude: you hands are shaking, please stop point that gun at my head.
Fuck me.sofakingback - If the jury is sympathetic to law enforcement or military background. If I showed this to my law enforcement friends they would praise this ass wipe as a herosofakingback
- if police were firemen they would run around starting fires all daybliznutty
- Tldrterry_cloth
- GeorgesII0
Seriously,
fuck black lives matters!say it with me!
fuck black lives matters!
sick of them speaking for blacks
- yep you have said before.fadein11
- and I will keep on saying it until liberals realize this group and their leader brought back race relation 50 years in a span of 8 years, fuck themGeorgesII
- Thank God you don't live in the states, amen.utopian
- theyre a terrorist organizationCygnusZero4
- Say it in another thread where the mocking, sarcastic, repeated and insensitive rants might be more acceptable then.monospaced
- Also what the hell did BLM have to do with this man, today's shooting or anything related to this post? Nothing.monospaced
- Forget it. You're just trolling for a reaction to your perceived social injustice.monospaced
- I think George's is saying blm is inciting more hate causing more people to revolt against police.pango
- I understand how blm came about. Why it exist. But their recent actions are questionable.pango
- They do have reason to not like the police but the events they use are all justifiable.pango
- *notpango
- Tons of people have reasons not to like police, and I haven't heard that BLM had anything to do with this.monospaced
- and BLM has never justified killing police, that's ridiculousmonospaced
- Altonpango
- That would be rediculous. Justify killing police.pango
- Lol at mono. Always defending the killers.Hayoth
- @hayoth. What? Dude you can't read? Mono was defending blm. Not the killer.pango
- Anyone else got someone to point a finger at, for anything?jaylarson
- "an eye for an eye". maybe these shootings will prevent future unjust deaths from law enforcement.omg
- Prob won't. Now the police has more reason to be hostile.pango
- I love black peoplesureshot
- mono is defending those thugs but would he live in the ghetto, BLM is 100% responsible for the racial tensionsGeorgesII
- as usual champage liberals will tell you there's isn't a problem with blacks in the states, it's because of slavery etc etc,GeorgesII
- Georges you don't even live in this country...you are even further away from the issue than monospaced.yuekit
- It's great how everyone is a political economic legal expert on every issue these day...thanks internet :)yuekit
- You're welcomepango
- BLM is not responsible for the tension. Sorry you have that impression but it couldn't be further from the truth.monospaced
- They have risen from the decades of racial tension that have gripped this nation. But they aren't the source. That's naive thinking.monospaced
- "BLM is 100% responsible for the racial tensions" - what a load of bullshit Georges.fadein11
- BLM plays a part, no one can deny that. All these videos play a part. Every speech plays a part. I agree that highlighting every single detail makes it aformed
- issue. I don't know the answer, but I do know that pushing one side or the other divides more than it solves any problems. You need balance, not absolutes.formed
- yep 100% absolutes provided by georges are not v.helpful at all.fadein11
- Sick of you, fucking stupid blacki_was
- Well I'm sick of you i_was. Whatever you are.pango
- GeorgesII8
- #triggeringutopian
- can't be real... that's a racist white guy in blackface who's in collusion with the NRA and George Bush and Donald Trump and Margaret ThatcherPonyBoy
- IDKmaquito
- I like that saying. "to many people died for you to be stupid."yurimon
- i like that you're still too stupid to spellimbecile
- #triggeredyurimon
- moldero4
See How Much the NRA Paid Your Senator to Vote Against Gun Reform
the NRA contributed a total of $36,290,699, according to data compiled by the Center for American Progress Action Fund.
http://usuncut.com/politics/see-…
Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.): $23,426
202-224-4944
Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.): $7,450
202-224-3324
John Barrasso (R-Wyo.): $21,489
202-224-6441
Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): $1,439,902
202-224-5721
John Boozman (R-Ark.): $61,296
202-224-4843
Richard Burr (R-N.C.): $805,219
202-224-3154
Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.): $335,770
202-224-6472
Bill Cassidy (R-La.): $2,861,047
202-224-5824
Thad Cochran (R-Miss.): $65,833
202-224-5054
Susan Collins (R-Maine): $18,099
202-224-2523
Bob Corker (R-Tenn.): $79,203
202-224-3344
John Cornyn (R-Texas): $57,135
202-224-2934
Tom Cotton (R-Ark.): $1,968,714
202-224-2353
Mike Crapo (R-Idaho): $52,135
202-224-6142
Ted Cruz (R-Texas): $75,450
202-224-5922
Steve Daines (R-Mont.): $121,711
202-224-2651
Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.): $24,722
202-224-3424
Joni Ernst (R-Iowa): $3,124,273
202-224-3254
Deb Fischer (R-Neb.): $14,960
202-224-6551
Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.): $365,302
202-224-4521
Cory Gardner (R-Colo.): $3,879,064
202-224-5941
Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): $49,049
202-224-5972
Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): $113,602
202-224-3744
Orrin Hatch (R-Utah): $140,748
202-224-5251
Dean Heller: (R-Nev.): $122,802
202-224-6244
John Hoeven (R-N.D.): $17,499
202-224-2551
James Inhofe (R-Okla.): $65,191
202-224-4721
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.): $100,353
202-224-3643
Ron Johnson (R-Wis.): $615,681
202-224-5323
James Lankford (R-Okla.): $11,463
202-224-5754
Mike Lee (R-Utah): $4,617
202-224-5444
John McCain (R-Ariz.): $7,740,221
202-224-2235
Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.): $1,261,874
202-224-2541
Jerry Moran (R-Kan.): $22,171
202-224-6521
Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska): $130,738
202-224-6665
Rand Paul (R-Ky.): $2,500
202-224-4343
David Perdue (R-Ga.): $1,825,006
202-224-3521
Rob Portman (R-Ohio): $1,412,819
202-224-3353
Jim Risch (R-Idaho): $18,850
202-224-2752
Pat Roberts (R-Kan.): $1,584,153
202-224-4774
Mike Rounds (R-S.D.): $93,049
202-224-5842
Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): $4,950
202-224-3041
Ben Sasse (R-Neb.): $68,623
202-224-4224
Tim Scott (R-S.C.): $17,013
202-224-6121
Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.): $35,750
202-224-4124
Richard Shelby (R-Ala.): $259,464
202-224-5744
John Thune (R-N.D.): $628,645
202-224-2321
Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): $4,418,042
202-224-6342
David Vitter (R-La.): $35,250
202-224-4623
Roger Wicker (R-Miss.): $88,406
202-224-6253
- Wow, that's some serious "do what we tell you" cashRamanisky2
- Cash is not why NRA is so powerful. It's their large, and politically active members.IRNlun6
- that give them cash as well as cash from the gun manufacturersmoldero
- where do you think they got the cash? some axis of evil? inbred hillbillies? racists with gun fetishes?terry_cloth
- if you ask the country 100% would say lobbying like this should be illegal, and yet here we are, bought and paid forformed
- your comment hadn't yet loaded when i commented that<. but yea, we make a shit ton of weapons over here, big business has lobby powerterry_cloth
- this country is run like a business so this type of thing is hard to avoid, anyhows, here this thread goes again, inevitably turning into a political discussionterry_cloth
- lobbying sucks but what are you trying to say? see we cant violate peoples right because of lobbying?yurimon
- they are commenting on the 'problem' with capitalism which is that your real vote is what you buyterry_cloth
- once again, this entire thread is comprised of varying degrees of overt politicking, where are you hypocrite, half stepping mods?terry_cloth
- oh sorry, *hypocriticalterry_cloth
- 2nd ammendment is a 'right'—it's weird you even have to pay these people to stand up for an 'inalienable' right—something that supposedly can't be taken awayPonyBoy
- Im more surprised how cheap some senators are.pango
- Also... I'm pretty sure they'd all vote the same w/out the money.PonyBoy
- All? i don't believe that.pango
- I find it weird also ponyboy. but also that the organization tip toes around it being for hunting and alot of its reasoning behind the amendment has been lost.yurimon
- Vote the same without the money LOfuckingL ... Yeah right !!!!Ramanisky2
- What I want to know is why people seem to think that the government is both the cause and the cure to all of our problemsterry_cloth
- You don't think a bunch of republicans would vote the same when it comes to gun control? Pubby's love guns... There was no need to pay them.PonyBoy
- I don't think people are as binary as the 2 parties. republican and democrat. People in each party are still capable of seeing when other people are right.pango
- but to act for party interest or against is another story.pango
- dunno, pangz... if greed overruns 'seeing when people are right' (as the $'s show)... do these folks actually have consciences to begin with?PonyBoy
- MeriKKKa Fuck Yeah,
Kill dem all softly with lead
to the head!!utopian - What does that (R) mean that is next
to every every Senator on the list?utopian - Rapists?pango
- Retardsmoldero
- Rolderoyurimon
- iCanHazQBN6
Gilgamush, how is it not true that because of YOUR views, and the pro-gun people that YOU elect, that guns are everywhere and easily accessible... thus leading to the deaths of innocent people, through crime or accidents.... ? How is it not true?
You didn't pull the trigger. But your ideas play a role in every shooting. Your views. The people you elect. The lax rules regarding guns. The fact that guns are so incredibly prevalent in people's households. The accidental and tragic deaths that happen in those households.
How do you not see the indirect blood on your hands?
Go ahead. Put your fingers in your ears. Mumble something about freedom.
- This makes no sense like the idea of original sin. Id have indirect blood on my hands for going along with booze/driving/living... i'll say nodeathboy
- People who drink booze do so by choice. And it's against the law to do it while driving. There are laws and measures to prevent it as much as possible.iCanHazQBN
- you have some issues broh. I agree with deathboy.yurimon
- Yes, I'm the one with issues. Right. I'm the one who actually want's to do something about 51,740 people dying in 2014 from gun deaths.iCanHazQBN
- dude you contribute money to the war effort without blinking an eye. and we all know war moneys is used to buy freedom for all those brown people.yurimon
- While the other side says things like "we need more guns". Yeah dude, I'm the one with issues. Yup.iCanHazQBN
- What on Earth do you know about my views on the current US wars???? LOL. I love how you just pulled that out of nowhere...iCanHazQBN
- ...Simply assuming that because I care about gun issues then it means I must not care about the wars we wage.iCanHazQBN
- You guys do nothing but divert the topic, over and over again.iCanHazQBN
- If you had cared to ask... I'm vehemently against the current wars ("wars for contractor profits" I call them). You think I want my tax money for this??iCanHazQBN
- well you claim whats his name is contributor while you are a contributor to death and destruction. but i suspect you have some deeper fears going on.yurimon
- I pay my taxes. Unfortunately I'm not in control of precisely how they're used. However, I try to elect people that make decisions againstiCanHazQBN
- things like war.iCanHazQBN
- you are a troll, and now i know who's proxy account you are. for once in your self hating little life be a man 'icanhaz' and stop playing your little gamesgilgamush
- unfortunately somethings can be written off as virtuous or non hypocritical put under the psychological rug conveniently.yurimon
- proxy account?monospaced
- When Gilgamush has nothing to defend himself with he just starts calling people trolls. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they're trolls.iCanHazQBN
- The cyber police is on to you.isleptwithsirenstonight
- And he doesn't think I'm American. He just can't fathom how an American could be anti-gun. He just can't wrap his head around that idea.iCanHazQBN
- but you are indeed just a troll, and because i hurt your feelings once by pointing out what a dickless sissy you are, now you are on a mission to say the most rgilgamush
- repulsive shit possible to me as your passive agresive little revengegilgamush
- And now I'm threatened with proxy talk and cyber police nonsense. What is this, 4chan? Yeah, I'm the child here... sure buddy...iCanHazQBN
- well guess what 'icanhaz', it just reaffirms what a dickless sissy you aregilgamush
- I don't really register personal insults, especially online. So I don't recollect when you called me a "dickless sissy". I instinctively ignore those parts.iCanHazQBN
- ..of a post.iCanHazQBN
- lol monospaced, where have you been hiding, so funny to see you here isn't it. what a coincidencegilgamush
- iCanHazQBN isn't a troll. LOL.monospaced
- Maybe the sissy is the one who feels so afraid that he needs a gun? Something to think about.iCanHazQBN
- so tell me, how does it work, do you log out of one and then into the other or do you just have them open in different tabs, trolling simultaneouslygilgamush
- icanhaz doesnt see his moral dilemma he is in. he hates gun but supports war even though he doesnt support war.yurimon
- I financially support war, though it's not my choice to. Don't play dumb. At the moment we don't have control over how most tax $$$ is spent. Nice spin though.iCanHazQBN
- ...While you guys will actually VOTE-IN people who are pro-gun.iCanHazQBN
- You're trying to compare the two dilemmas, but the intents are completely opposite. I try to vote-in anti-war people, while you vote in pro-gun people.iCanHazQBN
- it's amusing to hear you talk about playing dumb, seeing as how that is your favorite game. so why use the fake account anyways. proxy wasn't the right wordgilgamush
- This isn't a fake account. It's my real and main account.iCanHazQBN
- I had an account in the mid 2000's linked to my previous professional workplace. But that is long gone.iCanHazQBN
- What do you want from me? My real name and address?? LOL. Why are you calling this a "fake" account?? It's as real as yours. I've been around since 2008.iCanHazQBN
- its not a spin its a moral reality we are in. its a contradiction but a real one. you are against something that kills people yet a contributor.yurimon
- But there you go again, diverting off topic. Now you're trying some weird personal "I know who you are" game, instead of sticking to the discussion.iCanHazQBN
- Uh, but yuri, I have no control over how that contribution is made. If I did, I wouldn't make that contribution. You're spinning it.iCanHazQBN
- You're spinning it by saying: "Because you pay taxes, you must be FOR war". That's just stupid. Come on bro. You know how stupid that sounds.iCanHazQBN
- I do everything in my power to PREVENT war-mongering politicians to getting elected into office, by voting for ones who aren't so pro-war.iCanHazQBN
- While you will actually vote for FOR politicians who ARE pro-gun.iCanHazQBN
- no dude thats not how morality works. would give a person $ if you know they will go buy weapons.yurimon
- troll b gonegilgamush
- I pay my taxes. Some of it is used for good, some of it is used for bad. The point is, I'm trying to put people in office that use tax money more responsibly...iCanHazQBN
- ... instead of just giving up and saying "I'm not paying my taxes at all" and then ending up in jail.iCanHazQBN
- good luck with that pipe dream. you still miss the point of moral action in the now. you know that something immoral is happening and you consciously support ityurimon
- the excuses yeah but im trying to put someone in office, sidetracks the point. you are a heavy avoider i see cant face the truth.yurimon
- It doesn't sidetrack the point. It's a solution. We can't cut off all the benefits that tax money provides this country (health, education) because of this...iCanHazQBN
- What we should do is elect people who aren't militaristic-minded and who DON'T want to spend tax money on wars.iCanHazQBN
- What you're proposing is stomping on the ENTIRE tax system (which hurts education & healthcare), instead of extracting the negatives things (war) that use it.iCanHazQBN
- So because our government is using some tax money for war, you want to hurt the country's education and health as well??iCanHazQBN
- i guess you dont care about peoples lives then. just hot political issues from the safety of your home, or office. you know morality doesnt work that way right?yurimon
- You're drawing conclusions from your head instead of what I said. Whatever makes you better.iCanHazQBN
- i guess you are the moral authority of deciding who lives or dies. whats a life worth? its not like you have to go and do the actual work..yurimon
- Just because my house is safe, doesn't mean I don't care about people's lives. It's amazing how you draw your conclusions.iCanHazQBN
- you are an actual participant in a process of violence while opposing it. i can admit im a hypocrite for it and try to remedy it from there. we are all.yurimon
- What specific work are you suggesting I do? I cast my votes for what I believe is right. I protest against things which I believe are wrong.iCanHazQBN
- Do you want me to fly to Iraq and breath life into a dying civilian? What sort of "work" are you implying??iCanHazQBN
- not only you are a participant but you have knowledge of what you are doing. its hard fact. this the reality everyone brushes under the rug.yurimon
- the point im trying to say is that is more of political issue. a hot potato of sorts. the tunnel vision. its important that we deal with the core issue of moralyurimon
- Huh?? But it's not something we brush under the rug. Lots of people are trying to get anti-war, peace-minded people as our leaders.iCanHazQBN
- Why do you assume that everyone is unconscious to this? Every time I fill up my tank in my car I literally think "Where the hell did this oil come from and howiCanHazQBN
- many people in the middle east had to die because of it?"iCanHazQBN
- The dilemma of so much tax money for war is something we know about and are trying to change.iCanHazQBN
- .. while the pro-gun people are saying things like "we need MORE guns". It's completely opposite.iCanHazQBN
- That would be like me saying "I know my tax money is going for war, and I'm perfectly OK with that, so here take some more money."iCanHazQBN
- ... But I'm not saying that! How can I explain this any clearer?iCanHazQBN
- i dont know anyone saying it and im not pro gun. im pro rights. everyone could have changed it but didnt. you dont see the delusion of moral action yet?yurimon
- "honey i cheated but she means nothing to me" accuses all lead to the issue of personal responsibility and power.yurimon
- everything you suggesting absolves you of this power and responsibility. how do you face being not completely moral in the face of massaging political topicsyurimon
- i'm not trying to single you out but this is just a classic example.yurimon
- Pro rights? Why when gays want to get married you say "the gov't can't give you rights".....iCanHazQBN
- But when it comes to guns you're all about having rights??iCanHazQBN
- People should have to right to go to school and the movies and mall without fear of getting shot... as long as we're talking about rights.iCanHazQBN
- because rights dont come from gov. thats why. you can go anywhere you want. the fear is something within your reality.yurimon
- anyway, how are you going to deal with your moral dilemma and hypocrisy is what i want to know.yurimon
- If rights don't come from the government, then why do you cling like mad to the right to bear arms?? That right was created by a government.iCanHazQBN
- rights can be taken away or legal terms trespassed on, stolen. look it up.yurimon
- lets get back to your responsibility here. how are you handling it?yurimon
- Handling what?iCanHazQBN
- You didn't answer why you get the right to bear arms, but you don't feel gays should have equal rights to get married.iCanHazQBN
- You just mumbled something about "rights can be taken away". Well, no shit.iCanHazQBN
- Only yurimon gets to have his rights! Anybody else wants rights? Fuck them!iCanHazQBN
- the problem with you icanhaz is that you are too busy emoting, thinking about what 'should' happen in stead of thinking about the hows and whys of the issuegilgamush
- we 'should' have a society where guns aren't necessary but we do, so instead of fixating on the injustice of it all and shouting over and over again how unfairgilgamush
- it is, why don't you join the discussion on how we can make the u.s. safer, so that people wont need fire arms to protect themselvesgilgamush
- Guns are necessary because other people have guns. It's a stupid cycle that's created by fear. You get rid of the gun.iCanHazQBN
- Want to make the U.S. safer? Get rid of guns. It's proven all over the world it works.iCanHazQBN
- Unless you want metal detectors in every school and movie theater and shopping mall and park and sporting venue and bus and train and... etc.iCanHazQBN
- you are such a tiresome troll. almost like a child who deos not get his way. listen real closely kiddo, the answer is nnnnoooooooo. it isn't going to happen, stgilgamush
- stop fantasizing all day and pose a real suggestion or shut your stupid ass upgilgamush
- do you really think telling people to shut up would ever work? has it ever? you don't seem like a smart one :/pango
- I think its pretty clear that ican is overly afraid, where fear has taken over the one cell of rationality he ever had in his body.yurimon
- And i think you haven't gone to the toilet for months. you're brain in buried in shit.pango
- I have yet to see you say any thing of value pango, worry about yourself for a changegilgamush
- mg336
Why/How the F is this a thing you can buy? They don't even have this in the military.
I'd love to see one gun owner justify the need for this.
If it's to avoid reloading when shooting targets, LEARN HOW TO RELOAD FASTER.
If it's because they're afraid of an army of people invading their home to kill them, HIRE A SECURITY TEAM.I cannot comprehend that something like this exists and is LEGAL.
- NRAGOPMAGARamanisky2
- When 18 people try to rob your house at the same time, and all of them armed and deadly. It happens ALL. THE. TIME.monospaced
- Stupid liberals just don't get it.monospaced
- yet items like this, i don't think, have been used in mass shooting...BabySnakes
- ^ This is what the shooter in Dayton Ohio used 2 days ago.Ramanisky2
- ohBabySnakes
- Military wouldn’t even use this. Items like this are only bought by those who glorify death.Gnash
- Military cares about precise actions - no full auto, bursts only, etc. But the #MAGA punks love showering bullets everywhere.formed
- The cunt killed 9 people in a little more than 30 seconds.Ramanisky2
- I remember grade 7 shop class where most of the guys made ninja stars.Gnash
- I think these kind of weapon mods are inspired by that same immaturely developed part of ones brain.Gnash
- Zombies ApocalypseBennn
- Ramanisky21
- i just dont get it... america is fucking doomed...cruddlebub
- they are willing to tollerate this and let this happen over and over again under the guise of some second amendment bullshit or tyrannical government bullshit.._niko
- ...but in reality the only reason Americans won't give up their guns is that they're scared shitless of black people and Mexicans._niko
- watch the red sweater guy, you can see the green dot moving :(ernexbcn
- _niko - history has shown to be true. zimbabwe & Venezuela. once socialism comes knocking on your door. watch out. little respect for property rightshotroddy
- game of peaceGnash
- but no amount of guns is going to matterhotroddy
- I'm reading the green dot was someone doing that with a pointer and not the actual shooterernexbcn
- the problem isn’t socialism ffsmonospaced
- america and socialism will never ever be a reality lol, but I do enjoy the triggered fools thinking any politician who may consider the lesser off in theirfadein11
- plans as a 100% far left Marxist... I may be wrong but isn't Obama considered a Marxist in the zany right thinking, haha. Keep it coming, it's v.entertaining.fadein11
- "LA Times reports that the shooter was a gamer who was competing in the tournament and lost"drgs
- Sad Murica is sad.utopian
- my point is that it's easy to radicalize blacks and hispanics. so it can be a reality.hotroddy
- you tell one group this land was promised to you by your ancestors. tell the other group this land was taken away from your ancestors.hotroddy
- I would expect a brit to understand american sentiment and resentment.hotroddy
- won't happen in our lifetime but it will happen. Particularly after they get rid of the electoral college.hotroddy
- I can't believe people still play John Madden.PhanLo
- USA!LMFAO
- elahon2
Jesus fucking christ.
4-year-old accidentally kills 2-year-old sibling with gun he thought was a toy
- "There is no way that they would leave a loaded gun out. They're good people, they're Christians. They're good people..." LOLOLOLOLimbecile
- mental issues. no wait, too many doors in the house. no, wait, the 2 year old should have been armed_niko
- the parents were idiots for allowing easy access. only 15% of gun owning parents secure their guns, ergo too many idiots have guns._niko
- put another way only idiots need guns...idiots can't be trusted with anything...america is full of idiots with guns...it's therefore easy to see_niko
- ...why they're in the mess they're in._niko
- delusional much, _niko?imbecile
- The gun owner should be sent to prison for negligenceR_Kercz
- Horrible the left are flaming the family hard like you guys. Doubt the parents leave guns out, they need to ask the teenage brothers who also live thererobotron3k
- Yeah, Jesus would never let the parents leave guns out, must have been those devil worshiping teenage brothers._niko
- No-one else to blame but the parents. Responsible Parenting?, Responsible Gun Ownership? These days in the USA it seems a child's life is too damn cheap.Morning_star
- bullets seem to be the problem hereGnash
- it's the ROCK MUSIC!dopepope
- That 4 year old is master at Call of DutyRamanisky2
- What's the ratio of terrorist killings to assissination by toddler?
https://www.snopes.c…PhanLo - Simply put, if the parents didn’t allow easy access, this couldn’t have happened.monospaced
- Miguex10
- +1OBBTKN
- not to mention, this would destroy the entire school system as we know it, from the top downmonospaced
