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  • neverscared1

    • NFTs are inherently patriarchal.palimpsest
    • its bad u are right.neverscared
    • I didn't say it was bad.palimpsest
    • patriach is not bad?neverscared
    • agree to disagreeneverscared
    • Disagree to disagree.palimpsest
    • lolfadein11
    • I also didn't say patriarchy was not bad.
      I said "NFTs are inherently patriarchal." based on what you posted.
      palimpsest
    • some love it some hate it...its all a matter of taste... the taste of female genitalia or cock in that case.neverscared
    • i didnt adress it do you... it was between posting.. i didnt see your first response even before i posted it...was a common statement.neverscared
    • If your mouth is the your means to understanding the world I'm not saying it's bad.palimpsest
    • What is ment by "benefited"? If the buyers are also men, in sum men have benefited nothing.drgs
    • "i didnt adress it to you"
      There's only 2 of us commenting on this post. I have the time, take my hand.
      palimpsest
    • Let's walk this trough.palimpsest
    • @drgs
      It's not about benefiting, it's about domination.
      palimpsest
    • It's about men exercising their jouissance of power. ;-)palimpsest
    • what is wrong with men liking a pretty picture? finally men are addressing their sensitive side.shapesalad
    • OK, chief.palimpsest
    • What's the stat?
      No. of Artists, No. of Sales, Sales in $ ?
      microkorg
    • taste is aneverscared
    • n important thing... that walks u fru the thing
      https://www.goodread…
      neverscared
    • seems to get even worse though
      Female artists accounted for just 5% of all sales in last 21 months.
      neverscared
    • seems to get even worse though
      Female artists accounted for just 5% of all sales in last 21 months.
      neverscared
    • https://www.bloomber…neverscared
    • some numbers for micro
      https://www.theartne…
      neverscared
    • u could just google it anywayneverscared
    • Nerdy tech dudes make up NFT core demographic, mind blownjagara
    • Men are generally greater suckers, so there's that.formed
    • I went to meet some crypto guys a while back to see about selling NFT's. It reminded me of meeting dickhead art collectors in London years ago.PhanLo
    • So much cocaine and just lame as fuck people, but also quite wealthy.
      Empty people, that even with all that money, had nothing to offer.
      PhanLo
    • ironically the one woman who was meant to come to the meeting never turned up. She's did pretty well from selling NFT'sPhanLo
    • only nerdy men know how to set up an accountRaybandana
    • more like men watching other mans pictures.. very sensitive chief.. lol . shapes loves the nerdy man they are so smart.neverscared
  • monNom4

    And here is the counter-argument against NFTs

    https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockc…

    A choice quote for those looking to do well in this space:

    "Put a large price tag on your NFT by buying it from yourself — then write a press release talking about your $100,000 sale, and you’re only out the transaction fee. Journalists who can’t be bothered checking things will write this up without verifying that the buyer is a separate person who exists. Just like the high-end art world!"

    • "It’s like a “Certificate of Authenticity” that’s in Comic Sans, and misspelt." LOLgrafician
    • Hey kid, that's a great suggestion, I'll try this myself!shapesalad
    • umm....who is that guy.....? did he work in the Trump administration?dkoblesky
    • sorry....this guy seems like an idiot....not enough time in my life to read his entire screed....dkoblesky
    • yep, it's a terribly written 'article'.fadein11
    • $100,000? Why not $46,000,000nb
    • $69M sounds like a nice round number.monNom
    • ‘oUtrAgE'Gnash
    • 'iTs LiKe A dRuG'fadein11
  • neverscared2

    The NFT bubble is beginning to burst, says the man who was one of the few to see the 2007–2008 financial crisis coming in a book some consider one of the most influential since World War II.

    https://fortune.com/2022/04/16/n…

    • Just another get rich quick American Ponzi scheme.utopian
    • I'm ready with a huge "told you so" when that happensgrafician
    • I believe that many of us said the same thing...at least I did.utopian
    • ....and yet only I was getting all the hate ;))grafician
    • many of us don't continually post about things we don't likekingsteven
    • It has to burst. But NFTs are not going to disappearmicrokorg
    • of course they will not vanish.. paris hilton needs to make moneys...neverscared
    • lol at grafician still not understandingimbecile
    • just getting you to say it you imbecile :)grafician
    • I'll be right there w you with my big *POOF* laughter. Ain't gonna be too long now.formed
    • lol, nobody cared about your predictions, argued against you, or gives a fuck now, so your "told you so" is nothing but your own masturbatory nonsense for suremonospaced
  • microkorg4

  • microkorg5

    At 1pm GMT/UTC 1st February 2022 (today), I'm minting a new project on https://www.fxhash.xyz/

    Steps of Yu - 禹步
    Edition of 888
    6tz each

    If you look back in this thread months and months ago you'll see the initial concept/r&d work for this. That version only had a single panel. This version has many, many more layout variants.

    The original concept for this project last year was to have it as a 10k project on Ethereum but I had no technical know-how of how to achieve this.

    In December FXHash came along and effectively presented a way I could release this piece to the world. Been a good bit of graft perfecting this piece!

    • https://www.youtube.…palimpsest
    • literally!
      (one of my fave trump vids)
      microkorg
    • Direct Link...
      https://www.fxhash.x…
      microkorg
    • Really like these man.PhanLo
    • Thanks Phan Lo. I'm loving seeing all the outputs that are being collected. No one has a gold stamp yet. Odds were 1 in 66. 238 sold, still no show!microkorg
    • Gold is imminent!microkorg
    • congrats on the stellar drop. +1cherub
    • tell us more about this gold stamp, does it fill all the cells? a watermark?cherub
    • Cherub. The red stamp that's on all of them is my 'signature' stamp if you like.
      There is a 1 in 66 chance of it being gold rather than red.
      microkorg
    • Having said that 250+ have been sold already and a gold stamp hasn't appeared!
      However if you click the infinite variations button for long enough...
      microkorg
    • ...one will appear. They ARE there!microkorg
    • https://twitter.com/…microkorg
    • See link above for how a gold stamp would look. The above find was about 20 clicks on the infinite variations.microkorg
    • Wrote a little thread tonight about the Edition Number and further stages...
      https://twitter.com/…
      microkorg
    • @microkorg The editions say 326/326 minted now; was that your choice or something on the platform?Wolfboy
    • he burned the excess editions.cherub
    • supply and demand dictates that if you start to cut the supply of something the demand goes up.cherub
  • neverscared6

    The Worrisome Rise of NFTs

    An astrobiologist says non-fungible tokens do not bode well for our species’s future.

    Humans are very good at inventing commodities, and we’ve been at it for a long time. See that pebble over there? Well, that’s a better pebble than all these others, and if you give me something in exchange for it, I’ll let you take ownership. It’ll be your pebble, forever. And soon there will be a market in pebbles, a pebble community, pebble exhibitions and auctions filled with pebble speculators, pebble exchanges, and pebble arti

    https://nautil.us/issue/112/insp…

    • food for fought.neverscared
    • No offense, but it sounds like some commie gobbledygook.palimpsest
    • Pebbles / NFTs / Sneakers / Beanie Babies / Diamonds / Goldmicrokorg
    • / CO2neverscared
    • ≠ ꜩmicrokorg
    • no really precise ... tezos still pushes co2 ... just not as much eth... don´t look upneverscared
    • + tezos is no excuse for the rest being dirty polluters.. only plays an outsider part anyhow.neverscared
    • RIP Normbabydick
  • drgs5

    I still dont know what fungible means

    • fungus (plural: fungi)babydick
    • Fungus is Among Us!utopian
    • mutually interchangeableutopian
    • It means if u buy 1 k/w of electricity from ur electric company for 1 euro, they could swap out that 1 k/w of electricity with any other, it wouldn't make anycherub
    • difference to you, because the kilowatt wasn't unique or special.cherub
    • It was fungible.cherub
    • Why would they swap it?drgs
    • They don't swap it, or better, there's no difference anyway so you'd never know which kilowatt of electricity you are getting bcuz they are all the same.cherub
    • Sort of like a £1 coin has the same value, at least in theory, as another that comes off the mint at the same time.cherub
    • When you're bench pressing 100kg you don't care what specific weights you're putting on.palimpsest
    • Your gym neighbor may be using the red weights while you're using the black ones. You're still lifting 100kg, that's fungible.
      Hope that helps.
      palimpsest
    • Got it✍drgs
    • So, Bitcoin is fungible?drgs
    • No, Bitcoin is not fungible, they leave a trace. I think people would like them to be fungible.palimpsest
    • In the end nothing is fungible, it's about how we decide to treat objects (physical or not).palimpsest
    • And that's why NFTs seem really smart for some and really stupid for others.palimpsest
    • Those red weights could become non fungible because you decide they make you stand out more and that's the value you assign to them.palimpsest
    • I understand now. If the biggest meatheads in the gym use red plates, I want to use them too, thus black and red plates, both 20 kg, are not fungibledrgs
  • Hayzilla4

    So who is actually buying NFT's? Is it just billionaires? And everyone is trying to trick them into buying their art? Normal people aren't falling for this shit right?

    • I don't think billionaires are buying NFTs.palimpsest
    • it's all a scheme to drive up Ethereum value and establish it as THE cryptocurrencyKrassy
    • while fucking the enviroment... classy the new oil.neverscared
    • Eth platforms are pricey but anyone can start collecting on Tezos chain, and it's massively greener!microkorg
    • Normal people aren't falling for this shitbabydick
    • A few peeps I know actually make money minting NFTs... but they have been mining ethereum cheap since 2015.jonny_quest_lives
    • Late 40's designer types who never went in on having a family... traveled the world bought cool toys with their salaries... Meanwhile...jonny_quest_lives
    • Wife, kids, mortgage, risk adverse and "dad inside" good on them for challenging the status quo and living their best life.jonny_quest_lives
    • @micro ..can u only collect with the tezos on hic et nunc? thats pretty low money flow there in relation right?neverscared
    • no theres other platforms on tezos too. HEN is crap interface. objkt.com much better to use.microkorg
  • Nairn9

    This comment on NFTs made me smile..

    "Two swindlers arrive at the capital city of an emperor who spends lavishly on clothing at the expense of state matters. Posing as art dealers, they offer to provide him magnificent clothes that would be backed by a digital token which proves value to those smart folks who understand digital. The emperor hires them, and they go to work in a special minting room. A succession of officials, and then the emperor himself, visit them to check their progress. Each sees that the room is empty but pretends otherwise to avoid being thought a fool.

    Finally, art dealers report that the emperor's suit and its token are ready for release. They mime dressing him and he sets off in a procession before the whole city. The townsfolk uncomfortably go along with the pretense, not wanting to appear inept or stupid, until a child blurts out that the emperor is wearing nothing at all. The people then realize that child is very stupid, not understanding simple principles of digital DeFi-fueled web3.0 economy. Still smirking at the child, the emperor continues the procession, walking more proudly than ever. "

    - https://news.ycombinator.com/ite…

  • grafician3

    "Most artists are not making money off NFTs and here are some graphs to prove it"

    https://thatkimparker.medium.com…

    • Such a surprise.NBQ00
    • This article basically ends NFTs
      and also Etherium
      grafician
    • whoever says "but think about the artists..." will get punched in the face from now ongrafician
    • who thought most would?fadein11
    • they are all elbow deep in blood by fuckin the enviroment though..... cashin in or not..neverscared
    • That graph could be an NFTStoicLevels
    • no shitkingsteven
    • you cant just pay to mint stuff and expect it to sell. you have to price wisely and put in the graft to MAKE it sell!microkorg
    • indeed, i only started investing in crypto as it started mimicking capitalism. NFTs are for commoditisation and negative value assets.kingsteven
  • Bluejam5
    • LolzGnash
    • NFT is a receipt that proves you paid for said receipt.palimpsest
    • Witness the original f*cking lol cube thread to see how this plays out.monNom
    • "Eagerly awaiting the day when I can buy the bankrupt startup domains and start charging NFT owners to serve their files"grafician
    • there is a LOT of new stuff here that will be very different in the near future.....dkoblesky
  • Krassy8

  • Krassy4

    is this thing still a thing?

    • noNBQ00
    • everyone's moved onto midjourney insteadhans_glib
    • i still see a lot of folks minting NFTs (and a bunch of AI artists) so it must still be a thingkingsteven
    • 2% keep the 98% washtrade flowing...neverscared
    • kingsteven hahahahahahahahacrazyprick
  • microkorg3

    A Million Heroes (百万雄师)

    • Twitters trash previews! Piece is 8000x6000 and crisp as hell ;)microkorg
    • mid journey?inteliboy
    • I don't see a million of thempango
    • put it on ethereum, gas is so low right now... I wish crypto crashes would happen everyday lolcherub
    • I paid $4 the other day for an ETH transcation... unheard of right? I've never seen gas this cheap. I love it.cherub
    • if you use the same prompt, you get the same image?

      if I use the same prompt, I get the same NFT? :)
      grafician
    • Cherub. it's on objkt.com right now for the 1/1 event but priced as if it was on eth. If it doesnt sell there then the series will be going on FND/KO.microkorg
    • Inteliboy. yes midjourney. Graf, no not a single prompt. Everything is midjourney created but lots of elements brought into one composition.microkorg
    • Large 'painting', illustration, typography, each stamp is an output, paper, textures, dirtmicrokorg
    • Pango, the concept is these are recruitment posters to build a million man army to fight the dragons woken by the building and damming by Yu the Great.microkorg
    • MJ and Dalle not capable of making such layouts that make absolute compositional sense as this ... yet. ;)microkorg
    • did u at least design sth. at a substance level or just arranged 13 components that u listened above...neverscared
    • concept first then many many prompts to get the assets I wanted.microkorg
    • Theres a whole fictional story behind this collection based on Chinese history.microkorg
    • i guessed not then... nuffin from zero i mean... no texture.. type line or else...everything prefabricated...neverscared
    • Yup. The calligraphy isn't even genuine Chinese, it's what AI has created to replicate Chinese. Which I think makes it even more epic.microkorg
    • as to someone who doesnt know chinese this could look like a legit piece of chinese ancient art. But IYKYK it aint. ;)microkorg
    • oiright of course definitons for epic vary... some say epic some say boring.. because not a lot of skill needed..neverscared
    • since that guy who bought the tweet from dorsey called that thing the new mona lisa...i´am skeptic than nft bros know epicness in art history...neverscared
    • there has been so many "new mona lisa" but all forgotten already. the most known attribute of mona lisa is it's fame. This painting doesn't even come close.pango
    • What skills would be needed to recreate Pollock, Rothko, Emin, Herrera, Basquiat? Or is the greatness in their art the concept, the story, the originality?microkorg
    • Art does NOT require skill.microkorg
    • art is smoke in the air. poop on the side walk. you hopes and dreams. your nightmares. art is everything and nothing.pango
    • Yes Pango! The people that tell us art must follow rules, be this, that or use specific skills are so, so wrong.microkorg
    • tho i agree kills help but it is not required. i still think this generated painting looks like shiet lol but that's just my opinion.pango
    • *skillspango
  • microkorg0

    Got an invite to midjourney.com and was using up all my free credits last night.

    This is an insane AI art creation tool. You type your request into discord then a few seconds later you get 4 images rendering.
    You can then choose to upscale any or show up to 4 different versions of each.

    At the moment it's invite only. You get some free credits but after that have to pay $30 for infinite credits per month. You have to renew each month.

    Currently it is for Non-Commercial use only. It looks like there's going to be a pay to use for commercial use soon.

    Their text-to-image technology is unbelievable!

    • Examples of the types of outputs
      https://boingboing.n…
      microkorg
    • This is the underlying tech: https://openai.com/b…section_014
    • its kinda boring ... the text to image technology get pretty lame.. ontology and skillwise its crap.. u can literally feel that every douchebag who has noneverscared
    • knowledge of design can produce something eyecandy which lasts for a second...at least i got bored after watching the pieces the last monthsneverscared
    • MaaadPhanLo
    • overrated id say.neverscared
    • but i can see that someone who is too lazy to get into 3d software and coding might find this mindblowing.neverscared
    • i remember joshua davis saying a few years ago that there will never be a kick ass filter... same with this ..it gets so boring in such a short time that itsneverscared
    • close to worthless.neverscared
    • Remember when we all thought Content Aware Fill was going to replace us?nb
    • Paging Palimpsest.
      Palimpsest to ER.
      Nairn
    • I hope that their pay-to-use model is a high price so that it puts off folk creating low effort artworks and flooding the AI art market with straight outputs.microkorg
    • That is absolute laziness. The way I and others I know use AI is we use it to create elements. Then I piece together lots of ai (or other genres of work) tomicrokorg
    • create unique works.microkorg
    • Am looking forward to this evening once kids are home from nursery and sitting with them thinking up shit for AI to create for fun....microkorg
    • 'Unicorn with pink sneakers on drinking bubble tea' . that kinda shit ;)microkorg
    • @nb I don't think any of us thought content aware fill was going to replace us as designersSimonFFM
    • Neverscared, there is some skill to great outputs. 90% of what I'm seeing output from the platform is generic AI stuff.microkorg
    • But the 10% who've nailed writing great descriptions for the tech to pick up on have some astounding results. I'll post some in here later today.microkorg
    • i know i follow some guys and they get shitloads of good feedback .. and it looks allright but after a short time it get so boring like a filter.neverscared
    • after u seen a couple of them u go... cmon, this is incredibly boring .not this generic stuff again and again...neverscared
    • maybe the untrained mind and eyes gets more kicks out of it... and i adore A.I driven design but only with more substance behind it.neverscared
    • how is this connected with nfts ?neverscared
    • Great more ways to devalue artists...grafician
    • Nobody is talking about how their beta program is just a way to harvest the skills of talented creatives to dump into future algorithms for free?garbage
    • Facebook and the like have been taking and selling your data. This type of thing is taking and will be selling your talent the same way.garbage
    • Said it before, and I'll say it again: If you're a creative in your mid-30s, you need to consider the very real possibility of your own irrelevance..garbage
    • ..in the very near future. It doesn't matter how good you are, because people just as good as you are feeding these things.garbage
    • And let's be honest, it's not like audiences are becoming more discerning. Standards are lowering for everything because we see more of everything everyday.garbage
    • Again, you guys don't understand "AI" :))grafician
    • here some more background info: https://www.qbn.com/…

      Again, nothing to fear
      grafician
    • If you think this is about DALL-E, maybe you don't understand AI. GANs have been effective at producing work that passes as human for over a decade bro.garbage
    • Things like this beta are human input to compose the discriminative network to levy against the generative network..garbage
    • ..then the AI spits out it's best "not uncanny valley" version, and it's going to get better and better at it. But you knew that, right?garbage
    • It should be scary to anybody in any creative field that hasn't already gotten a cushy foothold.garbage
    • Your stance is like somebody working in a newsroom in the late 90s with a working title "This Internet Thing is No Big Deal".garbage
    • it´s good for nfts .. people with no skills can shoot sth up and make some bucks with a exo toxic coin and token .. without substance .. if u wanna be narrowneverscared
    • go for it..i mean eco toxic..neverscared
    • Connected with NFTs cos I use AI in my NFT artwork ;)
      But also, if they start to allow commercial use, be prepared for an onslaught of folk minting creations
      microkorg
    • who cares if they mint it... it´s a zero skill method..neverscared
    • good for paris hilton and alike.. she can finally show of and the undereducated will get all hyped up.neverscared
    • looks a little you are to lazy to learn some new code in processing or c++ for 3d scripting to compensate your outdated flash scripting skill with a childrenneverscared
    • A.I method.neverscared
    • @garbage wanna bet it's all a fad? :)grafician
    • also my stance is that of someone who gets it and laughs at all the idiots who think they're rediscovering firegrafician
    • @neverscared Zero skilled method should scare you. We're moving into a LCD generation of appreciation. Quantity will Trump quality.garbage
    • @grafician Oh I will take that bet, because it seems like you don't really understand GANs.garbage
  • neverscared2

    A few have asked about our stance on NFTs:

    NFTs are a scam. If you think they are legitimately useful for anything other than the exploitation of creators, financial scams, and the destruction of the planet the we ask that please reevaluate your life choices.

    Peace

    Also f̸̗̎ú̴̩c̷̖͌ḳ̵̀ any company that says they support creators and also endorses NFTs in any way. They only care about their own profit and the opportunity for wealth above anyone else.

    Especially given the now easily available discourse concerning the problems of NFTs.

    https://twitter.com/itchio/statu…

    • Meanwhile.... pay to play, pay to buy this 'power-up gun' that you only own within our platform - but only as long as we exist.
      We go tits-up, you got nothing.
      microkorg
    • It seems like a lot of game platforms share this view.microkorg
    • Creators are increasingly choosing Tezos for its massively greener credentials, less greed and profit. Much more fairly priced art.microkorg
    • Much more community and art focussed. Definitely artists and coders first in this community. I hope it doesn't inflate...microkorg
    • ...to ETH proportions of 'values' as the longer the ETH-bro's keep out of Tezos, the better. lol.microkorg
    • do u have some stats to back that up .with the creators? .. greener credentials alone will highly likely no big profits will be not succceed i guess.neverscared
    • How would that power up gun work without the game anyway?Nairn
    • it wouldnt work. your money is down the pan.microkorg
    • I don't have stats. Im part of the tezos artist community. I can see it with my own eyes.microkorg
    • folks that promote the idea of game stores using NFTs cry themselves to sleep thinking about the thousands they spent on fortnight skins. factkingsteven
    • If the games platforms dont want to use NFTs then thats all good with me.
      Anyone spending that money or time on gaming should reevaluate their life choices.
      microkorg
    • eh, each to their own - I'm sure a happy gamer might look to your consumption patterns and mirror the sentiment :)Nairn
    • there will be, but it'll be entirely balls and of no advantage over what exists already other than hype and speculation. like all digital art NFTskingsteven
    • The car industry is a scam.Sandder
    • It's all true down to the letter. But do you want to be right or do you want to make money? Respect the stupid and take advantage of itdrgs
    • a blockchain and a marketplace selling p5.js scripts is junior dev shite compared to steamworks. and a toy compared to a game - it's difficult to see a usagekingsteven
    • that isn't exploitative of creators. i already make mods as a side-hustle and know plenty of folks making maps and skins full time.kingsteven
    • skin gambling and price fixing is huge already, and some gambling sites have been 'blockchain based' since well before NFTskingsteven
    • it would be difficult to see a marketplace condoning that (it's essentially an exploitation of item trades) and it would shift liability to the game devkingsteven
    • it may reinvent something in the art world, there is nothing about NFTs that is new to games. i'm still predicting they will be used a lot in the future butkingsteven
    • the 'medium of the NFT' or the term NFT as a synonym for digital art is nonsensekingsteven
    • the original intention was to represent any entity including negative assets, i think thats a better use case than artkingsteven
    • There's certainly not an 'each to their own' sentiment through this whole NFT thread.microkorg
    • the digital art movement is great. its the idea that it is synonymous with NFTs or that the blockchain has anything to offer other than hype over other forms ofkingsteven
    • collectables is what i don't like. your digital art market is being used to promote a technology that (if it becomes mainstream and used for it's intendedkingsteven
    • intended use to represent any asset off the blockchain) will make having a jpg in your wallet seem very silly indeed.kingsteven
    • People that are into NFTs -- please don't spread those retarded genes and get a vasectomy.babydick
    • But each to their own, yes?microkorg
  • hydro747

    • “Money is the oxygen of capitalism and I wanna breathe more than any man alive.”
      ― Jordan Belfort
      neverscared
    • with all the co2 u better dont take a too deep breath.neverscared
    • Done.AQUTE
  • sted5

  • Nairn3

    "art is evolving".

    Well, i suppose. In at least one abstract sense, at least.

    Seems to me more like gambling has had an added layer of socialised gamification added to it, which - like art - does raise some interesting questions.

    Also nice to see terrain generators doing the rounds again - reminds me of the Amiga days, playing with the latest public domain find on a floppy, seeing magic appear on screen. Except that was 30 years ago and I only had to pay £1.50 (per disk) + P&P.

    • oh, and I'd actually own a physical disk, which I could format and use for something else if the PD Find was shit, which they often were.Nairn
    • you paid for warez?uan
    • Well, I paid for things I couldn't otherwise get a copy of or get someone to download from a BBS. I actually paid for Deluxe Paint 4 :)Nairn
    • Actually, there was always something quite compelling about those Public Domain pages in computer magazines. Total bargain basket type feelNairn
    • we're moving to the code generated Artwork to the real world data trained AI Art.sted
    • @Nairn Just don't confuse poorly generated experiments with actual art...grafician
    • @sted nah, you can train a neural network, there's no "trained AI" you should know that you guru youuuugrafician
    • AI utilizes trained neural networks to generate content.sted
    • Well, 'art' is a fairly hard to define domain, so I'll leave that to the artists. Suffice to say, I think most self-labelled art ... isn't.Nairn
    • There's not really any such thing as AI, never mind AGI - all we have are trained 'neural' networks, and a bunch of overlapping statistical models.Nairn
    • yeah, true, we just call it AI.sted
    • Tell that to @sted...he's attempting to use tech buzzwords for no reason to try to be relevant in a discussion lolgrafician
    • @Nairn i think we're dealing with a lot of things like technology becoming far more user friendly than before, copyrighted artwork is getting public domainsted
    • for the same mediums where currently an evolution of the exchange of digital assets is happening.sted
    • This change is what currently getting extensive attention catalyzing the art world on all levels.sted
    • wat?Nairn
    • lolpalimpsest
    • you don't need comprehensive coding knowledge to generate art, lots of new tools from paper like responsive screens and pencils to drawing in vr is availablested
    • an AI (neural network) can now generate the next episode of winnie the pooh without getting sued by disney.sted
    • And i have to explain why/how this nft hype moves the art world?sted
    • You'd have to train the ML system on Pooh-relevant content that wasn't Disney-derived© though :)Nairn
    • Yeah I forgot for a sec that it isn't purely a Disney "product" :) I just overheard the other day that its public domain now and looked like a good example :)sted
    • Public Domain in the States only. Still some time over this side of the pond, or here in the UK (where Pooh is, y'know, from) at least.Nairn
    • Could train a secondary ML to filter out all Disney-related derivatives of Pooh, before feeding input to the primary Pooh Generator ML.Nairn
    • Sorry, 'States only' as in it recently became PD in the States. I have no idea what the legal copyright status of Winnie the Pooh is in, say, Bophuthatswana.Nairn
    • Suffice to say, with enough chained MLs we could make a thoroughly digestive pseudo-AI tract that could begin to mimic a C.elegans-like model of AGINairn
    • wat?Nairn
    • huh that's a lot, i'm still at what an awesome idea is the Pooh generator and cutting disney out.sted
    • I do not know either the legal status of the Pooh in Bophuthatswana, but you get the idea. Lots of stuff what was made for screen is now available for reworksted
    • Incidentally, pooh is public domain as of a couple weeks ago https://www.washingt…scarabin
    • The book version anywayscarabin
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    Keanu Reeves Thinks NFTs Are A Joke

    In a recent interview with The Verge, The Matrix Resurrections stars Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss were asked their opinion about the NFTs created for the upcoming film, which proved so popular that they temporarily crashed the website on which they were sold.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dan…