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- Nairn3
"art is evolving".
Well, i suppose. In at least one abstract sense, at least.
Seems to me more like gambling has had an added layer of socialised gamification added to it, which - like art - does raise some interesting questions.
Also nice to see terrain generators doing the rounds again - reminds me of the Amiga days, playing with the latest public domain find on a floppy, seeing magic appear on screen. Except that was 30 years ago and I only had to pay £1.50 (per disk) + P&P.
- oh, and I'd actually own a physical disk, which I could format and use for something else if the PD Find was shit, which they often were.Nairn
- you paid for warez?uan
- Well, I paid for things I couldn't otherwise get a copy of or get someone to download from a BBS. I actually paid for Deluxe Paint 4 :)Nairn
- Actually, there was always something quite compelling about those Public Domain pages in computer magazines. Total bargain basket type feelNairn
- we're moving to the code generated Artwork to the real world data trained AI Art.sted
- @Nairn Just don't confuse poorly generated experiments with actual art...grafician
- @sted nah, you can train a neural network, there's no "trained AI" you should know that you guru youuuugrafician
- AI utilizes trained neural networks to generate content.sted
- Well, 'art' is a fairly hard to define domain, so I'll leave that to the artists. Suffice to say, I think most self-labelled art ... isn't.Nairn
- There's not really any such thing as AI, never mind AGI - all we have are trained 'neural' networks, and a bunch of overlapping statistical models.Nairn
- yeah, true, we just call it AI.sted
- Tell that to @sted...he's attempting to use tech buzzwords for no reason to try to be relevant in a discussion lolgrafician
- @Nairn i think we're dealing with a lot of things like technology becoming far more user friendly than before, copyrighted artwork is getting public domainsted
- for the same mediums where currently an evolution of the exchange of digital assets is happening.sted
- This change is what currently getting extensive attention catalyzing the art world on all levels.sted
- wat?Nairn
- lolpalimpsest
- you don't need comprehensive coding knowledge to generate art, lots of new tools from paper like responsive screens and pencils to drawing in vr is availablested
- an AI (neural network) can now generate the next episode of winnie the pooh without getting sued by disney.sted
- And i have to explain why/how this nft hype moves the art world?sted
- You'd have to train the ML system on Pooh-relevant content that wasn't Disney-derived© though :)Nairn
- Yeah I forgot for a sec that it isn't purely a Disney "product" :) I just overheard the other day that its public domain now and looked like a good example :)sted
- Public Domain in the States only. Still some time over this side of the pond, or here in the UK (where Pooh is, y'know, from) at least.Nairn
- Could train a secondary ML to filter out all Disney-related derivatives of Pooh, before feeding input to the primary Pooh Generator ML.Nairn
- Sorry, 'States only' as in it recently became PD in the States. I have no idea what the legal copyright status of Winnie the Pooh is in, say, Bophuthatswana.Nairn
- Suffice to say, with enough chained MLs we could make a thoroughly digestive pseudo-AI tract that could begin to mimic a C.elegans-like model of AGINairn
- wat?Nairn
- huh that's a lot, i'm still at what an awesome idea is the Pooh generator and cutting disney out.sted
- I do not know either the legal status of the Pooh in Bophuthatswana, but you get the idea. Lots of stuff what was made for screen is now available for reworksted
- Incidentally, pooh is public domain as of a couple weeks ago https://www.washingt…scarabin
- The book version anywayscarabin