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- yuekit0
Where did pandemic start? Anywhere but here, argue papers by Chinese scientists echoing party line
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https://klawerzeczy.…sted - "the lady doth protest..."Nairn
- That yellow is racistAQUTE
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- Krassy0
- lolKrassy
- "in order to save lives" LOLKrassy
- "flatten the curve"Krassy
- Because it infringes their patent according to them. Maybe they should have spoken up sooner?yuekit
- They are stuck with excess doses that can’t be sold; the lawsuit comes in now to offset the $ loses of the excess product. LolzKrassy
- rootlock-3
Ah Nice. The fall brand campaign on a flu shot. I'm sick of subsiding fatties.
I got the two "vaccines" , had covid, and am a Viking.
Do a push up. Grimace looking mf's
Why is it branded as a "Booster". Pill a day.
Fatties everywhere.
- sted1
SHENZHEN, China, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Authorities in China's southern city of Shenzhen shut the world's largest electronics market of Huaqiangbei and suspended service at 24 subway stations on Monday in a bid to curb an outbreak of COVID-19.
- nb0
https://twitter.com/drericding/s…
It’s a brave new world!
- Some of the most highly vaccinated countries are seeing the most excess deaths now.Chimp
- Chimp1
It would be interesting to know why the more highly vaccinated countries are experiencing more excess deaths than the less vaccinated countries.
- because the less vaccinated have no one left to kill? or how do you interpret that +50% starting point in this ridiculously lacking information graph.uan
- It depends on how long the excess deaths continue. Is it just a spike this year or will it continue for years?Chimp
- This graph conveys no informationnb
- demographics. the less vaccinated tend to have hight youthshapesalad
- I cropped it too tight. https://i.imgur.com/…
You can check out the excess deaths for you self too on varios sites.Chimp - Portugal average is 46.2 years.
Bulgaria average is 44.6 years. There’s not much of a difference.Chimp - 100% of vaccinated people will die.palimpsest
- Also 100% of not vaccinated people will die.Gabriel
- 100% of dead people went and got deaddee-dubs
- Chernobyl-surviving Bulgarians have super strong iron immune systems that need no vaccines ;pKrassy
- @Gabriel
I never looked at it that way. Thank you.palimpsest - the good news: nor corona nor the vaccines make zombies. the apocalypse is going to be piece of cake.uan
- Lol what the hell is this graphpango
- I know graphs.
This is the best graph.palimpsest - Pango, the more vaccinated EU countries have more excess deaths than less vaccinated countries.Chimp
- And fewer excess deaths prior to the vaccine being available. Mmmm...zardoz
- You can check it out for your self.Chimp
- Part of 'following the science' is the admission of being wrong. Revising opinion when new data arises.zardoz
- Some science is deemed as wrong if it goes against some peoples beliefs.Chimp
- Numbers don't lie.palimpsest
- portugal confirmed cases 5,266,454 bulgaria 1,180,636...neverscared
- is that a minus percent death rate in bulgaria.. does that mean u come back from the death if not vaccinated ? hussah hussah they did it...neverscared
- suck the vaccine out of everybody equals live forever...neverscared
- citizen: portugal 10mio. bulgaria 6.4... relations
portugal covid deaths : 24k... bulgaria 36kneverscared - 5 times more confirmed cases by 3,5 mio more inhabitants and 33% less covid deaths.... sounds like u are fake branding portugal to have excess death.. or am ineverscared
- missing some components in that equation ?neverscared
- wtf is this chartsted
- Lol oh how the tables have turned. Where is that commi Nazi utopian at?Hayoth
- how does it go below zero?! lolpango
- resurrection, we've seen it a few times in the last two years :)sted
- Ask Bill, he's got the data, and he'll have loads of it from Portugal since they have such a high number of installed chips.MrT
- Pango, have you not seen the Portuguese zombies? Of course you can have 10% less excess deaths.Chimp
- What do you mean by highly vaccinated countries have more excess deaths? Is there any serious study on this or are you just randomly picking out numbers?yuekit
- Because otherwise you wouldn't know if you were reversing cause and effect (maybe countries that had worse outbreaks led to more people being vaccinated)yuekit
- When you look at the excess deaths in the USA seems hard to explain as a result of vaccines:
https://www.cdc.gov/…yuekit - Notice how there's a spike in excess deaths before the vaccines were even available. Then a big spike in winter 2021 when there was both COVID surge andyuekit
- vaccine is available...but then it falls to almost nothing when the outbreak subsides. If vaccines were contributing so much, would we expect to see excessyuekit
- lol sry i just cant take whatever you're posting serious when zombies are involved.pango
- deaths remain at an elevated level instead of rising and falling with the outbreaks? People were getting vaccinated throughout 2021.yuekit
- The data is very clear in Europe. The more highly vaccinated countries have higher excess deaths than the leas vaccinated countries. Whats confusing about that?Chimp
- What's confusing is you claiming it without providing any source except for this weirdly cropped image...maybe you're right I just wanted to see the evidenceyuekit
- Just look it up for yourself.Chimp
- Perhaps the vaccines should have only been used on the vulnerable and not forced on the entire populationChimp
- So it's not based on anything? Perhaps you shouldn't jump to conclusions.yuekit
- This is the only study I could find on this and it suggests the opposite
https://pandem-ic.co…yuekit - great... this has turned into "do your own research!" again...pango
- age of the population, the demographics that are vaccinate vs not, state of healthcare are a few factors that also matterinteliboy
- There are responses to this regarding Portugal about deaths from excessive cold and heat and bill stress in a relatively old population.MrT
- Chimp what's being questioned is that the vaccine is the cause of the excess deaths. Other highly vaccinated countries don't have the deaths. So...?MrT
- im guessing the focus on Portugal is he's cherry picking to fit what he wants.pango
- if Portugal is different than what global stat suggest, i'd ask what fuck up did they do?pango
- You could choose Spain as well.Chimp
- MrT my point is that we were told that these vaccines were safe. Now there is growing evidence that this isn’t the case.Chimp
- How safe they are is still up for debate. Many factor apply such as age, sex, other health conditions.Chimp
- You can’t take away human rights and mandate people to take these things if you don’t know how dangerous they are.Chimp
- show us the stats to prove your claim.... or are u lying because of personal trauma...looks like it..neverscared
- u highly likely have to see a psychologist ... your causalrelationships and proof providing are on idiot level....neverscared
- You mean this report that says you’re more likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine than infection if your under 40?Chimp
- https://www.ahajourn…Chimp
- Do you still think it’s a good idea limit peoples human rights for not taking an experimental vaccine based on these facts?Chimp
- The formal involvement of the public and patients was not feasible under the time and resources constraints of this research project. However, this work hasneverscared
- been informed by dialogue with those working in healthcare systems and public policy.neverscared
- sums it up allright... to sum up your lie that portugal has death excess is not a good idea.. its a blank lie...neverscared
- i wonder how many people laughed when they see the graph goes below zero. lolpango
- Portugal does has excess deaths now. It’s clear to see.Chimp
- No body knew the risks of these experimental vaccines and people should have never have been forced to take them. That’s basic human rights.Chimp
- so u are mentaly retarted because there was never a launch of mandatory vaccination so no one was forced ... u are constant liar...neverscared
- with your puny perspective on medical science ... aspirin has to be experimental too ... considering the amounts of deaths it generates every year...neverscared
- @pango ... chimp thought it was serious enough to post... lolneverscared
- Oh yeah, excess deaths aren’t serious. Silly me for pointing that out. Nothing to see here, move along...Chimp
- IF this would've been an actual problem, pretty sure it would be all over the news, not "discuss" on QBN by keyboard researchersgrafician
- just make sure u dont die taking an aspirin next time...neverscared
- Graf, we won’t know the truth for the same reason Jeffrey Epstein‘s clients will never be brought to justice.Chimp
- LOL that's great transition to Jeffrey Epsteinpango
- uan1
ok Chimp, here's is the real data without cropping and framing and stuff:
are you still confused?
- Your missing the point here. We were told that the vaccines were safe. How will this look in 10 years time? Will excess deaths continue?Chimp
- still looks pretty bad for "team vaccine"zardoz
- vaccines started around january 2021 in portugal. stopped that spike at 70%.uan
- There is more and more data suggesting these vaccines were not what they were promised and have killed many people.Chimp
- There shouldn't be any "team vaccine" ...just look at the data. Also which vaccine?yuekit
- I'd rather live in the pink country... not sure what chimp is on aboutinteliboy
- clearly not a great reader of graphsinteliboy
- My point is that we were told that vaccines were safe and in many countries our human rights were taken away until we took them.Chimp
- looks superior for team vaccine..neverscared
- Not really when you factor in that no one knows the long term side effects and they didn’t lower all cause mortality.Chimp
- But that’s not my point. My point is that we were told that they were safe. Are we not permitted to question these things?Chimp
- Can you stop? The vaccines had fucking proteins in them, proteins DON'T fucking kill you, they just train your system to fuck the virus upgrafician
- And no, no medication of any kind if 100% safe, because humans not the same everywhere!
Damn your username checks out...grafician - Graf is right. Vaccines didn’t kill a ton of people.monospaced
- But they do kill people and there is a big rise unexplained excess deaths.Chimp
- Graf, its a fact that people have died of these vaccines. How many, perhaps we’ll never know.Chimp
- Chimp3
The risk of myocarditis is higher in young men under 40 after taking the vaccine than infection from Covid 19.
- sure, and “brain fog” is also a known symptom after an infection with COVID-19uan
- Weren’t these vaccines supposed to be safe?Chimp
- they probably are. I didn't read 87% of Portugal People died in the last year.uan
- Why does Portugal have high excess deaths if these vaccines are safe? Why are two I know dead if these are safe???Chimp
- Can you explain to their families why two young people I know are dead hours after taking a “safe” booster shot?Chimp
- Can you explain why the vaccines didn’t lower overall mortality?Chimp
- excess mortality is calculated by comparing to the previous years. look at portugal last year, bulgaria last year...your data reading is flawed.uan
- and I'm sorry for your loss. but it's unethical to blame it on a vaccine and try to find a proof online. did they do an autopsy on those people?uan
- because that is probably the only thing that would be a proof. everything else is speculation and gut feeling.uan
- It’s sad you can’t believe the data and not the big pharma propaganda. The vaccines are killing people and you’re turning a blind eye.Chimp
- Excess mortality is way above average. It’s there in black and white. Your near religious belief in capitalism and big pharma is blinding you.Chimp
- I know eight people that had their boosters and survived. 80% is pretty effective.palimpsest
- I know more healthy people who have died of the vaccine than Covid.Chimp
- show me your people ...neverscared
- My GFs workmate was found dead on his kitchen floor and the owner of our local restaurant died soon after taking the “safe” vaccine.Chimp
- It’s common sense that big pharma would try to push through an unsafe vaccine to try to make massive profits. It’s not like they haven’t broken the law before.Chimp
- my buddy who had a heart transplant was advised by the doctor not to take the vaccine for this reason. Then he ended up in the ER from covid.rootlock
- No idea why people under 40 need a booster. The death rate is almost 0 for this demo. Playing god.rootlock
- Because people under 40 have arms. And there’s a lot of them.monNom
- seems u are trying to solve some personal trauma than looking at the numbers objectively ... that bulgaria - portugal thing u tried to pull was easily debunked.neverscared
- There’s nothing personal about highly vaccinated countries having a much higher excess death rate. It’s just simple data. The tables really have turned.Chimp
- And this data above is pretty clear. I’m not sure why you’re so anti science.Chimp
- Downvotes for a scientific paper. The anti science woke mob has arrived.Chimp
- is that a paper from the band a-ha ?neverscared
- Elwin740
hmmm...
- yuekit0
If you're going to claim the vaccines cause more excess deaths you need to look at it in a systematic way. Here's one study that did...
https://pandem-ic.com/excess-mor…
"The cross-country comparisons suggest that vaccine coverage above a certain threshold is associated with LOWER excess mortality."
"We see that low vaccination rates are associated with much higher excess mortality rates, particularly during 2021. We also note that front-running countries in the vaccination space typically perform best on excess mortality."
However...the data is also a mess due to all the factors involved. There isn't a clear, consistent relationship across all countries and you probably shouldn't expect to see one.
For instance did people in the USA die at a higher rate because of bad policies of the US government? Is it because minority groups tend to die at a higher rate? Is it because Americans are fat? All of the above maybe? Good luck figuring all of this out.
- I know two dead people. Where are they in your graph?palimpsest
- The vaccines didn’t lower over all mortality. Sorry the science doesn’t support your belief system.Chimp
- Also you can’t conclude that the vaccines lower excess deaths until they have had long term studies. Give it a few years then look at the data.Chimp
- In any case we were told that they were safe and the science says they have killed many people. Safe vaccines don’t kill people.Chimp
- the numbers are skewed somewhat by the 100,000s of potential vaccine recipients who'd already died of covidFax_Benson
- excess deaths in the UK will have been contributed to by the hospital backlogs caused by the pandemicFax_Benson
- Even with that factored in there are large amount of young people dropping dead for “no reason”.Chimp
- The vaccines should never have been forced on to young people and their human rights taken away as was the case in some countries.Chimp
- A better approach would have been to just give them to the vulnerable.Chimp
- the vulnerable are easy to identify with hindsight. Vaccine research and testing was better developed than for covidFax_Benson
- In Italy you couldn’t even get on a bus without a vaccine, even if you had antibodies and were young.Chimp
- All in the name of pushing vaccines on young people who didn’t need them which in turn could cause serious side effects.Chimp
- Why would they do that? forcing a deadly vax on the customer base in plain sight. What's the big pharma marketing spin on kids dropping dead for no reason?Fax_Benson
- It’s not the first time they’ve done something highly ilegal that has harmed people.Chimp
- I think you need to separate these things...was the pandemic policy going too far, was it irrational at times...I'm willing to believe that, certainly in Chinayuekit
- it is. Do the vaccines have some side effects such as the myocarditis? This is basically proven. But are vaccines killing large numbers of people?yuekit
- I haven't seen any good evidence for that part. Even some of the studies you posted only showed a mild effect.yuekit
- Here is a link to an article and scientific paper that states all cause mortality was not decreased by the mRNA vaccines.Chimp
- https://brownstone.o…Chimp
- I feel like we talked about that study before in some other 100 comment thread :)ukit2
- Someone else who suddenly dropped dead: https://efocus.news/…Chimp
- The trouble is these studies you're posting actually contradict what you're saying. The Brownstone Institute one doesn't say the vaccines are killing people.ukit2
- Show me the serious study that proves the vaccines are killing large numbers of people and then you'd be onto something.ukit2
- No they are just mysteriously dropping dead for no other reason.Chimp
- And listen I totally understand if you know or heard about two people dying that would make me suspicious as well.ukit2
- But if the vaccines were really killing so many people it seems like this would be impossible to cover up.ukit2
- The amount they are killing is unknown but there is a suspicious rise in excess deaths and people dropping dead of heart attacks.Chimp
- I’m not saying vaccines are 100% bad. Just that they aren’t what they were promised and have to be questioned.Chimp
- The problem here is that anyone who dares question their safety gets labelled and anti vaxxer by the woke mob.Chimp
- Similar to if you question lockdowns or the amount of human rights that were taken away.Chimp
- I want to see a chart with the amount of human rights taken away.palimpsest
- How about Australia locking people up in camps that didn’t even have Covid for a start?Chimp
- Show me the chart.palimpsest
- Here you go. https://youtu.be/cgf…Chimp
- Where were people getting locked up in camps in Australia?thumb_screws
- No they were locking up camp people in Australia I think. Ooh I say.MrT
- Ah that was it! It was all for the next carry on camping film.Chimp
- bumdrizzle-1
I feel sorry for the woke science hating mob on here.
- So vaccines could be both saving lives and killing people.Chimp
- It’s hard for some to admit that things aren’t black or white and are nuanced.Chimp
- Maybe cropping out the inconvenient bits of a few more graphs will convince them?bumdrizzle
- So we should totally ignore the increase in excess deaths in highly vaccinated countries?Chimp
- Have you considered that maybe it's Covid that is causing the excess deaths and not the vaccine? Because that graph is also available.bumdrizzle
- https://i.imgur.com/…bumdrizzle
- You, a follower of science, can probably see that the peaks on both graphs (covid deaths and excess mortality) correlate pretty much exactly.bumdrizzle
- It’s a well known fact that a lot of these excess deaths are not caused by Covid.Chimp
- If it were Covid then the non vaccinated countries would be showing higher levels.Chimp
- Like I said, my point isn’t that Covid vaccines are 100% bad, it’s that we should be more cautious of them and taking peoples human rights away is totally wrongChimp
- "It’s a well known fact that a lot of these excess deaths are not caused by Covid."
Not to be pedantic - but statements like that aren't actually science.bumdrizzle - It’s becoming tiring providing links for you for well known facts. https://www.theweek.…Chimp
- https://www.telegrap…Chimp
- Here is another one just in case you’re too lazy to look for your self. https://www.ons.gov.…Chimp
- “ Coronavirus (COVID-19) was the sixth leading cause of death in July 2022 in both England (accounting for 3.8% of all deaths”Chimp
- “ In July 2022, there were 42,034 deaths registered in England, 3,898 deaths (10.2%) above the July five-year average ”Chimp
- 2 paywalls and a 404. thanks for the links though I guess.bumdrizzle
- https://www.ons.gov.…Chimp
- It looks like the QBN gods don’t like long links. You can check it out on the Office for National Statistics.Chimp
- The title clearly says death by all causes...Salarrue
- https://www.google.c…Salarrue
- Excess deaths were well above average before the heatwave.Chimp
- Salarrue0
Excess deaths surged as heat wave hit Europe
Preliminary data shows thousands more people died when temperatures soared in July.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www…- “ Excess deaths during this period could be because of a combination of factors, not just the increase in heat. Further investigation is required to understand”Chimp
- From the Office of National Statistics.Chimp
- On May 1st the U.K. had 18% excess deaths. The heatwave played a part but it’s not the main cause.Chimp
- Covid toomonospaced
- And vaccines.palimpsest
- Yep, Coronavirus (COVID-19) was the sixth leading cause of death in May 2022 for both England (accounting for 3.3% of all deathsChimp
- but the trend of total deaths by covid is lower than the first wave : https://www.google.c…Salarrue
- same thing uk :
https://www.google.c…Salarrue - thanks to vaccines...Salarrue
- And vaccines I’m assuming are the 4th or 5th leading cause before covid?monospaced
- The vaccines saved some lives and ended others. It’s probably best to take them if you’re over 50.Chimp
- Omnicron did more to end the pandemic than the vaccines.Chimp
- Natural immunity also played a massive party.Chimp
- sted1
"excess deaths"- "bonus deaths"palimpsest
- "death pool"utopian
- "overkill deaths"Krassy
- "surplus deaths"Krassy
- utopian-4
WTF!
I just heard about second person that I know....this month alone, who had suffered from a stroke the next day after getting the booster shot within 24 hours prior. All these people are between the ages 45-61 and are healthy males with no priory health conditions.
- I know hundreds who got all the shots (pziser and moderna) and the worst was sore arms and fatigue for couple days
20-70+grafician - Which booster? “All these people” is how you refer to two people?nb
- I'm trying to find out what brand booster shot they received, as far as I know it was the fourth shot. One of the guys can't speak or walk.utopian
- And the doctor of one of the stroke victims said that it was his 6th stroke victim related to the booster shot in recent months. We're all fucked!utopian
- Don't get vaxxed..!Elwin74
- Weird: people always read all info, compare prices, and really go into detail, when biuying a new phone. But no questions asked when get getting a jab???Elwin74
- Here in switzerland the official recommendation is not to get boosted a second time. Except you are at high risk. There is no consensus on effectiveness of 4th.uan
- because high effectiveness is limited to 2 weeks (moderna and pfizer). and the actual variant of virus doesn't seem to be a deadly one.uan
- so, gov. told population: you'll probably catch it, you'll have less pain if you are vaxed. you won't be necessary better protected by a 4th shot.uan
- the only ppl getting the 4th shot are those who need it for travel, in that case you pay yourself for the vaccine, or high risk patients, covered by insurance.uan
- Might explain the excess deaths that have been rising. I know 2 people that have died and 2 more that have had other strong side effects.Chimp
- @Elwin74 we've been told anyone who questions the jab is a conspiracy theorist.Chimp
- If questioning keeps me alive, i don't care how they call me...
The term 'conspiracy theorist' is a made-up term by the CIA during the cold war...Elwin74 - Careful using common sense round here.Chimp
- thanks for the heads upElwin74
- I know hundreds who got all the shots (pziser and moderna) and the worst was sore arms and fatigue for couple days
- yuekit-6
- nb-1
Went to a dinner party on the weekend. Was missing a handful of people because 4 (out of 20) guests tested positive before the dinner.
Neighbor downstairs just came back from a trip to Oslo and tested positive last night.
This shit won’t stop! Luckily everyone is boosted because there are some old ass people in these groups
