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- mg337
After testing negative on a rapid test Monday, and negative on a rapid test at home last night, I felt really sleep this afternoon, mild scratchy throat, mild burning eyes, so I went to a testing center for an rapid and PCR. POSITIVE. :(
I generally don't feel any worse than a mild almost unnoticeable cold, and I hope it stays that way. I used to get horrible sinus infections before I had surgery in 2018. Antibiotic-requiring, depression-inducing, don't want to look at anyone or talk to anyone and want to curl into ball and disappear sinus infections.
This is about 1/100'th the feeling of those sinus problems and hoping it stays that way.
- Figured since your kids have it and you were on a plane and people had it.monospaced
- @mg33 hope you heal soonKrassy
- Hope you get better soon!Chimp
- Think positive: you can stop running around with a mask in your house and let your daughter out of her room...SimonFFM
- Thanks guys. :) Cant do that though Simon; wife and son are still negative and son is 4. Need to keep them free of it.mg33
- don't forget the zinccherub
- @mg, your whole family is going to get it.monospaced
- dbloc1
I overheard someone call it the Cabrona Virus
- OBBTKN3
Two co-workers of my wife have tested positive (One of them commute to work by car with her every day...).
Still without symptoms, and I hope we don't get it to home, cos our oldest daugther starts two months of internship in a possible job (health sector).
I'm with dbloc... Cabrona virus!!
- Chimp0
Covid vaccines are great at protecting against severe disease but new data shows the vaccinated are more likely to catch Omnicron.
Source: El País
- "Something similar is observed in the official data coming out of Iceland: the 14-day incidence rate is higher among the vaccinated population"Chimp
- vaccinated will rather do a test. omicron has less severe symptoms, so unvaccinated might tend to avoid testing to avoid quarantine?uan
- assuming omicron is getting everyone (according to what we are told here in switzerland).uan
- The idea that getting vaccinated would make you more likely to catch a virus doesn’t make much sense does it?yuekit
- As much sense as having had covid doesn’t give you as much immunity as vaccineGnash
- Although the data could be explained by the vaccinated being less cautious - having a false sense of securityGnash
- I know of at least 3 anti-vaxxers who all caught covid and told basically no one. fuck them all, I hope they all suffer and die!utopian
- These sorts of studies are going to get more and more difficult to carry out accurately as two thirds, three fourths etc of the population is vaccinated.yuekit
- I think this is misunderstanding what this graph is showing. Currently 87% of the Spanish population has been vaccinated.BaskerviIle
- ie almost 7 times as many vaxxed than not.
If vaccination increased likelihood of infection then you would expect this numbers to be way further apart.BaskerviIle - What this shows is that numbers of infections are similar per 100,000 despite that vaxxed group being far larger...ie vaccination is effective.BaskerviIle
- Vaccinated are more likely to catch Omnicron because there are far more of them (87% of the population)BaskerviIle
- ^OBBTKN
- It’s per 100,000 and there enough unvaccinated for the data to be reliable.Chimp
- This might explain why Isreal and Gibraltar have such high cases compared to lesser vaccinated countries.Chimp
- This data might just be an outlier case as that of Denmark and Iceland. It’s too early to tell yet.Chimp
- @Baskervill, if that were true you would expect the results in November to be similar but they are the opposite. The only thing that has changed is OmnicronChimp
- Take a look at the graphs at the bottom of the page. https://english.elpa…Chimp
- https://english.elpa…Chimp
- nb3
Question of the day:
Are NY’s falling case numbers the beginning of the end of Omicron? Or did NYers just stop testing because fuck it what’s the point
- a bit of both.utopian
- here if you test positive for omicron, you need to quarantine for a week - some do it, some keep quiet and move on (infecting others probably in the meantime)grafician
- this is why so many cases pop up, as people don't even know they had it!
The symptoms are very mild or many are asymptomatic!grafician
- dmay2
Our 18 months daughter just tested positive, got it at school... For now, no big symptoms, just a very mild fever. Me, the wife and our oldest daughter tested negative, for now.
- Same with my 24 month old nephew, just a runny nose and cranky.utopian
- My sister and her husband so far haven't contracted it yet from their kid. Same holds true of their friends. Perhaps it's harder to contract from infants?utopian
- 18 months old in school?sted
- Daycare, in portuguese we use “school” as a common name for every gradedmay
- Fingers crossed for you!mg33
- You’re going to get it. Stock up on soup and ginger and juicenb
- I called "daycare" in the US "school" too. So many germs passed around there. Hope she gets a mild case you all stay healthy.fooler
- Thanks guys, she had a bit of fever during the night but that’s it. We still don’t have symptoms.dmay
- PioneerDJ3030
COCAINE AND ECSTASY USE HAS DECLINED DURING THE PANDEMIC
A new EU-wide poll has found that cocaine and ecstasy use has declined during the pandemic, while cannabis use has increased.
The survey, covering the year March 2020 to March 2021, found that the usage of MDMA (ecstacy) and cocaine decreased the most among respondents in the year - owing to the effective closure of pubs, clubs, and parties across most of Europe.
https://mixmag.net/read/cocaine-…
- yuekit4
Data just released from NYC showing pretty much the opposite of what the numbers above from Spain show...unvaccinated are far more likely to be infected, seriously ill and die from the virus.
- From here...
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - There are a lot of comorbidities in the US.Chimp
- We have to see if the data from Spain, Iceland and Denmark are outliers or the start of a new trend. Too early to tell yet.Chimp
- Is MAGA the newest comorbidity?utopian
- Switzerland has the same graphs.
and a graph that shows the hospitalizations by age groups, which shows omicron gets mostly unvaccinated elderly ppl.uan - Trend here is getting rid of any precautions (also certificates) end of march...but remain cautious as much as it's possible.uan
- @Utopian Was MAGA the original comorbidity?Chimp
- death rate looks impressive. until you consider the scale on the left. x-times of tiny doesn't make it less than tiny.pr2
- shows it nicely there against another value on the same scale though... amazing how graphs work isn't it?kingsteven
- Dude got buttfucked by simple graphsbabydick
- pr2 is a fucking idiot.monospaced
- Dude just fucking bennnsplained a graph as an argument against a graph.palimpsest
- at least he's an idiot about graphs. you guys have been idiots about an experimental gene therapy. enjoy the next 2 years clotshotters.Brabo_Brabo
- You’re wrong though. Idiot.monospaced
- time will tell. tick tock,Brabo_Brabo
- you will never explain to a child how to run if they never learned how to walk. time to fire away those hamster wheels in your brains children.pr2
- If you had to explain to your child how to run I understand why you tried to explain how a scale in a graph works.
God bless your souls.palimpsest - with children there is hope, with some of you... not so.pr2
- Ok, chief.palimpsest
- So, wait, 2 years is when us 'clotshotters' are going to be doomed? If it doesn't happen will you just go away?mathinc
- From here...
- Brabo_Brabo-1
- Meanwhile big banks are making record profitsChimp
- like "why cant we all get along" for conservatives lolkingsteven
- seen this in the russia thread...but was a quote by another person.uan
- it's david attenborough but with the vs changed to conservative talking points - original is young v old, faith v science, men v woman, black v whitekingsteven
- Attenborough? Must've missed that episode of 'Life on Earth'Brabo_Brabo
- Except there’s a virus and it’s real.monospaced
- @mono Is anyone denying that here?Brabo_Brabo
- And obviously Divide and Rule isnt a novel concept.Brabo_Brabo
- thanks ObamaGardener
- It’s kind of a try statement though. Not necessarily related to Covid, but keep *us* agitated and we don’t focus on the bigger issueshardhat
- Follow the money.ApeRobot
- lol this is the weakest analogy possible. Speaking as a child of the South:garbage
- Fire ants are absolutely not like black ants. They are hyper-aggressive, lock into you with their jaws and sting you repeatedly.garbage
- Fire ants fucking suck, and they are invasive species to boot. Anyone who was swarmed by them as a kdi would know this, but it's just another empty parallel.garbage
- *kidgarbage
- @brabo, the issue isn’t people hurting each other in a box. There’s a virus and it’s real. This analogy is a failure.monospaced
- The virus is shaking us, but there isn’t a jar.monospaced
- I don't think brabo understands that the world isn't a dispute between these groups and that all the people telling him that he's wrong on the internet arekingsteven
- diametrically opposed to these conservative talking pointskingsteven
- Bobo all you ever do is stir up shit tho...inteliboy
- Divide and Rule isnt a talking point unique to conservatives. Anti-colonialists, fenians and other ne'er-do-wells are quite fond of it.Brabo_Brabo
- Who is stirring up the pot:
https://www.youtube.…kaiyohtee - It's common knowledge that governments use Divide and Rule tactics.Chimp
- nb3
Do you act different after you’ve recovered? Do you feel like precautionary measures are overkill? Let’s get back to life? Or do you keep on keeping on
- The precautionary measures didnt work (you caught it), so what's the point?Brabo_Brabo
- If you have antibodies from natural infection you should have the same rights as the vaccinated, well actually you have more protection.Chimp
- Same rights?! I’ve never lost any rightsnb
- In Italy the unvaccinated don't have the basic rights to use public transport.Chimp
- The UK has slightly lower vaccinate rates and no Covid Passes and still has lower deaths than Italy.Chimp
- Krassy5
- Hahahaha, damn,...this world is going nutts.ApeRobot
- bwhahaha... glad i'm a 'science denier'.Brabo_Brabo
- the thing with china is, they make you do the test regardless if you're a dumb science denier or notpango
- drgs3
https://www.nature.com/articles/…
https://www.nature.com/articles/…
https://www.sciencedaily.com/rel…"A Neanderthal OAS1 isoform protects individuals of European ancestry against COVID-19 susceptibility and severity"
There is a gene rs10774671-G which protects against Covid and other RNA-viruses like hepatitis c, which explains why some people get sick and others not so much, and more specifically why more black people get covid in America.
15+/- years ago I bought a DNA testing kit from 23andme to check my Native American ancestry (it's 0%). They let you download your genome afterwards. I have this value:
rsid chromosome position genotype
rs10774671 12 111841576 AGGG would be optimal and AA offers no protection.
Discuss
- https://www.pnas.org…
https://www.pnas.org…drgs - White power!palimpsest
- But I thought race was a social constructBrabo_Brabo
- The Duke of Edinburgh really did come back as a virus.Chimp
- You native American now?pango
- The ability to understand social constructs requires less chromosomes.palimpsest
- According to 23andme I have "more Neanderthal DNA than 85% of other customers".drgs
- The force is strong with this one.palimpsest
- I'm pretty neanderthal also. Heavy set, thick skull. An arm dragger.Brabo_Brabo
- haha, knuckle dragger. an arm drag is a wrestling move.Brabo_Brabo
- Cave privilegeGnash
- drgs, I have 83% more than most. What does this mean for us?misterhow
- AG as wellmisterhow
- Not having the G allele (AA) makes you 56% more likely to be hospitalized.drgs
- Btw, I was wrong about the G allele in Africa, in fact its dominant there, it is the Neanderthal haplotype that is absent there.drgs
- "The ancestral variant (rs10774671-G) is the major allele in African populations and became fixed in Neanderthal and Denisovan genomes...drgs
- However, the ancestral variant, with its increased expression of the p46 isoform, was reintroduced into the European population via gene flow from Neanderthals"drgs
- Covid mortality is low in Africa:
https://www.healthda…drgs - But this confuses me:
http://cdn.statcdn.c…drgs - Poverty and no access to healthcare plus Africans eat a healthier diet and get more exercise and clean air._niko
- Vs their African American counterparts._niko
- China also have your genome sequence. all those testing kits use chinese labs/resources. China aims to make a virus that Han chinese are immune from.shapesalad
- ^My nightmaredrgs
- Sounds like conspiracy talk. China has a lot of none Han Chinese as well. Unless their officials are highly uneducated, it seems unlikely.pango
- https://www.pnas.org…
- utopian-1
- api1
Good news everyone who is still alive out there!
Excellent natural immunity confirmed (CDC Report - New York & California)
PDF Link to CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes…
This was made with Delta Data. So, if you already had COVID-19 you were already about 4 times less likely to be reinfected and hospitalized than if you did not ever have COVID-19 and were vaccinated. Vaccination for previously infected individuals achieved protection from reinfection and hospitalization that was just slightly greater than protection that remained without ever being vaccinated.
- I k people who got Covid v1.0 last year, got vacc + booster, then got Omicron last week...
Consider Omicron = Covid v2.0, not a branch of v1.0grafician - This also means we will not end Covid pandemic with Omicron, it's just too infectious and you can get reinfected easilygrafician
- I don't know why people would get vaccinated soon after getting omnicron. The science says there is no point.Chimp
- @chimp it gives a false sense of protection ofcgrafician
- I’ve been told to wait at least a month and “probably best to wait several months” after getting Covid before getting another booster.nb
- As if any of this was based on the science, Chimp.MondoMorphic
- @grafician Zero covid will never happen. Omicron could become another version of the season flu.ApeRobot
- For people who recover from COVID-19, immunity to the coronavirus can last about 3 months to 5 years, research shows.
https://www.healthli…utopian - https://www.healthli…utopian
- I did an antibody test at Christmas and I still had them from March 2020.Chimp
- 5 years!?? What a lovely round number, how did they come up with it?nb
- I have no idea, I'm guessing that it is all speculation on a base case scenario, that is somehow rooted in science.utopian
- Maybe it’s the same scientists that said there would be 75k dead from omnicron in the U.K. by April.Chimp
- Is this guy a epidemiologist or a virologist?utopian
- the guys who wrote the paper he reads from ARE epidemiologists and virologists.pr2
- Can we really trust a youtube personalities/expertatomholc
- He more qualified than most journalists on the BBC, CNN and Fox.Chimp
- He's a doctor.palimpsest
- *he’sChimp
- What kind of doctor is he? Psychiatrist, Neurologist, Radiologist, Obstetrician, Gynecologist, MD, DO.?utopian
- @utopian, if you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.Chimp
- Tell us what's wrong with the data he has just read out.Chimp
- there are thousands of doctors in every city. he also peddled ivermectin. but he has an English accent, so people instantly parrot what ever he posts.inteliboy
- though to be fair his recent videos make sense around omicron = endemic.inteliboy
- Again, what’s wrong with what he said?Chimp
- In March 2020 The doctors in Spain treated me with hydroxychloroquine and it worked. But hey the MSM says it doesn’t work.Chimp
- But that’s just my own personal experienceChimp
- in this video said nothing wrong, as I posted just above you...inteliboy
- re hydroxychloroquine, no better than a placebo. glad it worked for you. u probably could have had a cucumber diet or something and had the same results thointeliboy
- DYOR via YouTube doctors and Joe Rogan podcasts are the same as stocking up toilet paper in the supermarket. coping with the ugliness of a pandemic.inteliboy
- I just don't believe Youtuber's that spout off and disseminate facts & figures that they're not qualified to share. What's his medical background again?utopian
- LORD HELP ME, BROdoesnotexist
- "ad hominem" was mentioned all the way in ancien Grece, but it has gotten so bad i'm sure in the future they will name those who use this so extensively...pr2
- ...as victims of some serious mental disorder.pr2
- The guy is a nurse who went into medical education...so he is qualified, but far from expert on these specific topics.yuekit
- Most of what he says is probably fine, but I've also seen cases where he definitely did misrepresent things. I think there's a certain degree of "audienceyuekit
- capture" going on here. Make a video questioning the vaccines or hyping hydroxychloroquine and you'll get millions of views.yuekit
- Why would you believe a journalist from the BBC, CNN or Fox News over this guy?Chimp
- @utopian perhaps your last comment belongs in the ‘signs your getting old thread’ ;)Chimp
- Sorry that I don't believe in and or trust social media influencers or Fox News for my scientific facts.utopian
- So do you do your own research?Chimp
- Do you trust the CDC report he read from?Chimp
- Chimp the report you read in BBC or CNN is the result of science journalists consulting with medical experts. So honestly yeah, it's more likely to be accurateyuekit
- Often they are just journalists and know little about science, unlike this doctor.Chimp
- But do you disagree with the facts he presents from the scientific papers?Chimp
- Who are we to disagree with a doctor?
Don't do your own research, listen to his own research.palimpsest
- I k people who got Covid v1.0 last year, got vacc + booster, then got Omicron last week...
