Vegan?
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- detritus0
I live with a load of vegan and veggie types and am often amused by the cognitive dissonance in their respective choices.
Animal-loving veggies will often buy cheap-ass eggs and dairy, thereby relegating the animals they don't kill for food into a lifetime of suffering.
Supposed Gaia-worshipping Vegans, on the the other hand, will happily import whatever weight of 'alternate consumer product' from across the otherside of the planet, generating oodles of pollutants and greenhouse gasses. The most egregious example that sticks in mind were the kilos of pink Himalayan Table salt. ffs.
Then there's the amusing side - a friend who turned veggie (after I took them to task for critting bullfighting when they were sitting their chowing down animal product) ultimately gave up honey as he didn't think it was fair on the bees.
I mean, it's probably not, but we're higher up the complexity chain, so fuckit.
- BrokenHD0
^ In my city we have a bunch of farmers markets that bring fresh local produce to us. Tell your huge carbon footprint vegan homies about it.
- Hmm, London's a bit of a commute from LA — I'm not sure that'd be any more Gaia-friendly... ;)detritus
- haha u got me on that oneBrokenHD
- lol, LA has a huge population of patchouili stinkin hippy farmer organic dweebs to satisfy this needmonospaced
- so what your saying is there are cities where you don't have local food being grown?
BrokenHD - Maybe those cities shouldn't exist ;) Leave them for places that do.BrokenHD
- scarabin0
check for local farms here:
http://localharvest.org
- sandbag0
My Dad is at a health retreat right now, in Arizona, for diabetes. On a fresh plant-based diet his blood sugar went from 179 to 80 in less than a week (85 is normal). He has stopped taking 3 medications already. Type II diabetes can be kept under control completely just through diet alone. This fact is not commonly shared (or is possibly unknown) by the doctors that prescribed his pills.
- is that because of meat or all the processed, corn-based sugar shit that he normally eats?monospaced
- alcohol, meat, processed carbs (in that order) oh, and lack of fresh veggies
sandbag
- 74LEO0
just remember the amount of protein and calories you took in when you ate meet based proteins has to stay the same or your body will begin to feed of of itself. Prepare to graze all day.
Remember anything is ok in moderation and if it is fresh. Its also what you do with the energy you get from food that matters most.
- scarabin0
meat eaters always spout the same three bumper sticker jokes in every one of these conversations instead of actually looking at the data.
it's not hard to be vegetarian, it's not even hard to be vegan anymore. it's a simple modification anybody can do, and the rewards are great. better health, better ecology, save money, live longer. it's even anti-corporation if you're into that sort of thing.
not eating meat doesn't make you any less of a man. this "telling your parents you're gay" shit is retarded and just shows you're hung up on dicks.
- <Knuckleberry
- not eating meat in Mexico I found to be hard when eating out, its weird seafood is a breakfast thing down heremoldero
- mmm mariscos.sea_sea
- ItalianStallion0
This thread is asking for some snake-boom images...
- Knuckleberry0
I used to be for about 5 years, I am now a vegetarian. I did not do it right.
Do it right.
- sureshot0
Although I am a big meat (sasage) fan... I eat vegetarian 2 times a week.
- monospaced0
I've eaten vegetarian this whole week and didn't even realize it. I'm a meat-eater, for sure, but I love my veggies. Vegan is more difficult, not only to execute, but to understand. What's the problem with eating a byproduct like milk or honey? Eggs I understand (kinda) because they're embryos, but even eating those shouldn't cause alarm.
Another reason I could never really go fully vegetarian is because fish is amazing. Pescatarian?
- Ovo-lacto-pescataria... Nonextreme and healthy vegetarianism imo.digitdaily
- ********0
This thread has ruined scarabin for me.
Wish we could all just sing a "works-for-some" tune without preaching to one another.
- scarabin0
my advice would be to just try it. do some research, analyze your reasons for doing it, find sources for your new food, learn a few dishes you know you'll like. see how you feel after a couple months.
- vaxorcist0
Looking back on my vegan college experiment, I think my skin broke out because I replaced meat with highly processed "meat substitute" crap made out of soy milk and various fillers...
even if it came from "hippie-lovey-yuppie" branded packages, it was still highly processed crap.... and something in this processing and/or mysteriously fake-meat ingredients caused my skin to break out...
- that fake bacon and mayo freak me out, to be honestmonospaced
- i watched a doc that said GMO soy causes cancer in rats by changing its DNA or some shitmoldero
- never heard it again so maybe its bullshit, but im keeping my ear out for itmoldero
- because im half ratmoldero
- real mayo and bacon always freaked me out, incidentallyscarabin
- but yeah, substitutes can be hit and miss sometimesscarabin
- moldero0
I eat meat only once a month, I eat fish and raw veggies daily, when i started this "diet i guess" my energy and stamina both physically and mentally seemed like it tripled.
this doc is great: http://foodmatters.tv/
- just watched that and I am moving to make some changes in my diet as well.BabySnakes
- that whole vitamin C cure for cancer thing made me double my cigarette intakemoldero
- jkmoldero
- jfletcher0
I've been trying to cut back my meat intake, and buy better quality meat when I do eat it. Moving to Europe I was *shocked* at how fast food went back.... all food. It made me really worried about how bad food in the US is. How much crap we put in it. I'm probably already better from being here, but I'm trying to clean up more. Eat more veggies and such. Plus they taste better when they're all fresh and crispy :D I doubt I'll become a veggie or vegan, but I certainly don't want to depend on animal products.
- ********0
what's the point? you only live once
- thats the pointmoldero
- haha. logic fail.scarabin
- loldigitdaily
- dibec0
Tried it. Got really sick for a few days. Grilled up a t-bone and was back to normal. I "try" to eat balanced, but man food is so good. Meat is good. Veggies are good. Fruit is good. Dairy is good. Breads are good. Plus, I have an extremely high metabolism. So when I eat healthy I loose weight extremely fast. I must have the Christina Bale body type. I can indeed turn it off and on.
- ksv1230
I have been vegan for 18 years, works for me. But you really need to understand food and combining foods.
- DrBombay0
I could never do it unless a doctor said it was necessary. I BBQ a lot and also love cooking Japanese food. Try making Japanese food without animals. Can't be done properly.