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- PhanLo15
- Exactly. Mass transit was supposed to be an affordable alternative. Bulllshit.monospaced
- trains are such a rip-off. great way to travel and I love them but so cost prohibitive._niko
- even if you were renting a car, it still comes out way cheaper to drive the entire family._niko
- What about before they were privatised? Apparently the market knows best, commies etc etc.MrT
- They were "affordable" in the 80's, long time ago.i_was
- Try being spontaneous with trains = empty out entire contents of your bank account.shapesalad
- Trains are only affordable is you travel alone and book in advance. Liverpool to London is only about £30Chimp
- < Plus parking costs which can be up to £50 for the day. You can get a Birmingham to London family ticket for 4 for £77 total.Morning_star
- Also, the congestion charge of £15 for the car.Morning_star
- Add car depreciation/mainten... etcdrgs
- Apparently making it harder for large groups of people to spontaneously travel was thought about. So it would be expensive to go protest for example.PhanLo
- I drove from Edinburgh to Hastings for around £60 on Petrol, it would have been easily more than double on the train.PhanLo
- But you need a car to put in gas also? Trains are expensive for the once in a year traveller but frequent travellers have their shit togethermekk
- something something about peasants.. i mean phesants - glorious 12th wibble wabbla x wheres my cigar_me_
- Also right now, trains are an enclosed space full of other people so there's a much bigger covid risk than in a carBaskerviIle
- Would be interesting to look at the data. Family of 4, 1 car for 1 year, all costs vs no car and train/bus for 1 year. And not prebooked trainsshapesalad
- What about insurance, maintenance, registration, parking, taxes and all the other hidden cost of car ownership? These don't exist in the UK?utopian
- the train network in the UK can't handle loads more rush hour traffic anyway. Needs a mix of low carbon-buses, trams, pedestrian / cycle only routesFax_Benson
- especially to and from train stations. I guess traditional rush hours might become less of a thing, post-covid.Fax_Benson
- there needs to be a tax on idiots who just drive around because they can't think of anything better to do. Tax drive-throughs.Fax_Benson
- spend it on public transportFax_Benson
- She had to add how much was the car/number of years used + yearly maintenance + petrol + parking + ETC.zarkonite
- The real cost of having a car is almost always more than public transport, she just sucks at counting her money.zarkonite
- My car cost £100 to fill with petrol. It’s a standard 5 series BMW.Hayzilla
- all transport costs.... because the rich don't want to make easy for the poor to come in contact with them.shapesalad
- Nairn8
The solution really is incredibly simple - just get rid of the 6+ Billion people whose lives are basically entirely the product of the last century or so's hydrocarbon depletion. From expanded settlement catchment areas to nitrogen fixation and farming efficiencies, fossil fuels directly correlate to massive population increases.
It's very simple. A cull is in order.
Everyone other than me and my own though.
- old mother gaia is working on this alreadyhans_glib
- Cruise ships
- Bill Burrpalimpsest - I'm happy to go back to 1700's lifestyle of riding a horse, work from home - as a black smith or cooper, etc. Occasional sail-ship trip to some exotic land.shapesalad
- Fucking sheep.palimpsest
- BaaaaaaaahContinuity
- Riding a horse, you say? PonyBoy, you in for a career change as shape's conveyance?Continuity
- You should check out this guy hitler he also felt a cull was in ordernb
- If climate activism convinces the majority that the solution is to reduce humanity, we are in for a doozy of a holocaustnb
- Isn't a holocaust what we're fearing? We would just be beating mother nature to the punch.palimpsest
- @Nairn You'd like the plot of the UK version of UtopiaChimp
- @Chimp, yes, it's a 'favourite'. This shit's been banging around my head as a mental management for the scale of the problem, since my mid-twenties.Nairn
- #ThanosWasRightdee-dubs
- I've seen so fucking many people and articles about why overpopultion isn't the problem. Musk is a HUGE advocate of this.Projectile
- It's so obviously pushed by people that benefit from having more people under them to power their car batteryProjectile
- Just stop accepting things you buy being wrapped in so much plastic.microkorg
- wait, there is a gentler but more effective overpopulation killer called EDUCATION. Countries with a high level of education have far fewer children. Effective!api
- Musk’s problem can be easily solved by relaxing immigration requirements but he can’t advocate for that.nb
- You have to be careful with mass immigration as it’s not working out too well in Sweden.Chimp
- I think Pol Pot had a similar idea. We should check in with him and see how that worked out.monNom
- You get the first ride, Continuity. <3
*whinnies
The rest of you can 'hoof' it. GEt it??! GET IT?!!PonyBoy - No one said “mass migration”. Yes you have to be careful. America’s immigration system is ridiculous today. We’re letting in more “illegals” than “legals” andnb
- doubling down on walls and enforcement ?! Lol how’s that working out? Oh, it’s not. Surprise surprise.nb
- The US needs to slowly, gradually increase intake of educated immigrants from a wide set of cultural backgrounds. Not hard to do, but politicians refusenb
- The problem with America is that the GOP's gameplan since Reagan was de-education. They have monetarily raped our schools for decades.garbage
- A dumber populace is easier to rule because they're all a little dim.garbage
- @garbage https://youtu.be/cPA…Chimp
- PhanLo16
- inteliboy5
Debunked Australian Bushfire Conspiracy Theories Were Pushed by Alex Jones, Murdoch Media
https://www.desmogblog.com/2020/…
Victoria police said, “There is currently no intelligence to indicate that the fires in East Gippsland and the North East have been caused by arson or any other suspicious behaviour.”
Rural Fire Service spokesman, “The majority of the larger fires in the state [of New South Wales] were caused by lightning, and that arson was a relatively small source of ignition.”
Members of the New South Wales fire brigade have also dismissed the idea that the fires are due to efforts by the Green Party to stop fire management practices.
- the most amazing thins was how quick robo lapped up his far right dog food like a good little boy.inteliboy
- is the cnn story bs then? https://www.cnn.com/…PonyBoy
- Or this statement by the new s wales gov? https://bit.ly/35MmF…PonyBoy
- I'm only asking... I admit my ignorance... the last shit I read on this was these two items a few days ago.PonyBoy
- shit.. missed the second paragraph in your post... I'd agree w/the idea that 'arson was a relatively small source of ignition' based on the nsw statementPonyBoy
- 卐 Fox News 卐utopian
- UnrealFax_Benson
- CNN reported what was happening as a result of the rumor, obviously. Not reporting the rumor itself it seems.monospaced
- Same with the wales link, it seems. Reporiting on police action, not that the arson were the cause. I might be wrong?monospaced
- 40 juvis started 200+ fires, 24 others intentional, +100 others. It's not 1 arsonist 1 fire, more like 5 fires per 1 arsonist. But lightning starts fires?robotron3k
- CNN is just as bad & bias as Fauxmoldero
- Lol arson. How gullible some people are.nb
- I dunno robo, maybe listen to the experts? not your shit "news" sources.inteliboy
- Or try using your fucking brainnb
- Uh oh... https://www.washingt…robotron3k
- More reports of plague of youth and firebug arson starting from last summer till now, https://bit.ly/3a0TZ… he estimates 10k firebugs in the regionrobotron3k
- NB I'm using my fucking brain like you recco'd and I found this, 87% all fires are man made, https://bit.ly/2QLBo… why CNN say only 24 people?robotron3k
- Opinion pieces as “facts”....you’re a fucken moron Robo. NSW fire service has released figures that between 1-2% of all bushfires are arson. Cockhead.BusterBoy
- And that 200 arson case figure being quoted is utter garbage. Includes people who lit BBQs on days of fire ban and similar offences. So just fuck right off.BusterBoy
- Ok, I'll concede, if the arsonist aren't to blame, it's gotta be the anti-rakers!!robotron3k
- Well as long as it's something that supports your world view.inteliboy
- So lightning is to blame? Fuckin weird bolts of electricity!deathboy
- I want to start a kickstarter public fund to research and figure out how to stop lightning from every hurting anyone or anything again donate here -->deathboy
- Lightning is a byproduct of chemtrails thefore the fires are man-made therefore 100% of the fires are arson.
Only man is to blame here.deadsperm - sounds lie you have your own eco crusade spermy. we can cross donate 10k to get our funding going,deathboy
- Climate Skeptic Apologist Alert!
Climate Skeptic Apologist Alert!
Climate Skeptic Apologist Alert!
Climate Skeptic Apologist Alert!utopian - Utopian is looking like a paid troll. Or just simp refusing to accept factsdeathboy
- Donate to the Free Thinker Coalition Fund. Our operators are standing by!deadsperm
- Jesus fucking Christ, my IQ dropped 25 points just by reading robotron's and deathboy's troll comments.Continuity
- Utopian to the rescue!Hayoth
- @continuity, kinda how I feel about coming here in general these days. fucking sad.jaylarson
- continuity quit being so self obsessed and donate! Not all you you you and how you feel. We have dry brush to save out there!deathboy
- neverscared7
30°C above normal in the Arctic today.
40°C above normal in the Antarctic today.
It would be unbelievable if it were not true.its fine.... CO2 doesn´t matter...
- it all started with this tweet:
https://twitter.com/…sted - https://preview.redd…Gnash
- I blame sodastreamBrabo_Brabo
- BoBo you are a useless and worthless human being.utopian
- Earth is doing fine, humanity on the other hand.....ApeRobot
- Stop with the misinformation to justify your radical beliefsHayoth
- ^ Aaaah, there he is.
And there goes my IQ haemorrhaging 20 points just by reading his note.Continuity - Hayoth, stop with the misinformation to justify your radical beliefsimbecile
- I'm sure those missiles jetting off and blowing up at the control of Russia are a benefit to the climate.shapesalad
- There's our official village idiot chiming in.utopian
- it´s all lie... one big fat one... co2 is a hallucination didn´t u know ?neverscared
- lol these notes.
@shapesalad i'm thinking about that since this showed up on my twitter. idk how and why this happens but that was my first thought :Dsted - not radical enough for me.. but hey .. not everybody can be such a a cowardpuss like haydoofneverscared
- it all started with this tweet:
- Nairn9
^
Amazonians spent hundreds of years turning a basin with frequently low quality soils into one of the most fertile places on earth.
They burned wood to make charcoal, which they broke up and mixed with organic/faecal waste and existing earth to make what we now know as 'terra preta'.
Modern societies, particularly western ones, need to learn from this lesson.
We should be growing huge amounts of quick growth trees (or grasses, whatever - I don't care), then turning it into charocal, releasing useful heat energy, then using that 'biochar' to improve soil quality globally. If we do this, we can teeter ecosystems that are beyond the brink back into useful areas of plant growth, rebooting weather systems and increasing the scope of precipitation over dry inland areas.
Useful waste utilisation(esopecially for cities etc), atmosphereic carbon extraction, heat energy generation, carbon sequestration, environmental/topsoil improvement. i've been thinking a lot about this over the past couple of days and it strikes me now as being an incredibly obvious fix to a lot of our problems.
Not an easy fix, but a good one.
If I was independently wealthy, I'd drop everything and spend the rest of my life on this.
- Gates should do this with his farmlandmonospaced
- how did they think of this hack?
sounds like it was done on purpose.uan - It was definitely done on purpose. It's EVERYWHERE across the Amazon. As to how - well, you dump food waste and fire waste in a midden and then...Nairn
- .. in subsequent years you see plants growing liberally on it, and you take note. No smartphones = lots of time to notice otherwise mundane things! :)Nairn
- Amazon Rainforest 5.5 million km²
Sahara Desert 9.2 million km²
Let's do this!palimpsest - I remember seeing a video of a man dedicating most of his life to planting trees in the desert in Africa, and the impact that created. I'll look for it.monospaced
- Not Africa (not even close), but good stuff.
https://www.youtube.…monospaced - I worked out that London generates 3600 tons of shit every day. Shit that is significantly underutilised. Shit isn't even a main constituent of soil.Nairn
- ok, this is a bit handwavy, but LDN could generate enough soil to cover 3/4 the size of Wales each year.Nairn
- That's assuming about 30cm addition to that surface, which is quite a lot.Nairn
- Obviously soil need more inputs beyond shit, so they would be the more complex aspect to get to whatever tera-factory would be required to process it allNairn
- #terraformtheearthscarabin
- Nairn, your explanation about how they acquired the knowhow makes total sense. In India they recorded this kind of knowledge in a village book, a sutra.uan
- The sad/hopeful thing is - Humans ARE The Absolute Agents of Change on this planet. We have the potential to make things wholly better, if only we choose to.Nairn
- @Scarabin - absolutely. Just, not on the scales we saw in Star Trek. But we can absolutely modify things within a century or so.Nairn
- All this info is already known for generations here also in countryside.
But you can't really scale all that worldwide.grafician - Any solution to climate change needs to be able to scale in under a decade and anywhere, worldwide. Almost impossible in the current political climate.grafician
- Gates should do this with Hoes in his stable.utopian
- Contrast this with all the hand-wringing about farmers burning the Amazon rainforest.monNom
- the problem there is they burn it down to build mines or roads or mono cultures. burning and regrowing jungle would work.uan
- PhanLo4
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Scifi.- Phan, let me tell u a secret but don't tell anyone. Australia has a real arson problem by people ranging in age from under 10 to 24 yrs, then in older age.robotron3k
- Added to that they litterally slashed land management 60%, down to $825 million for the ALL of Australia. And done by the Turnbull liberal party! Ouch!robotron3k
- Arson can start a fire but it doesn't explain fires spreading to the size of a small country. You need increased temps and drought for that to happen.yuekit
- What are you talking about robo? I don’t understand what you are getting at?thumb_screws
- thumb_screws - a bunch of climate change denying conspiracies are being trotted out that the fires were started intentionally, some suggested greens did it etclowimpakt
- Yeah aware of all the green blaming that the Coalition gov and Murdoch’s cronies have been falsely spouting.thumb_screws
- The situation is beyond fucked. Our current government is peppered with climate change denialists. The lack of leadership from a federal level has been awful.thumb_screws
- Robo is feeding the chooks! What a load of absolute bollocks!sab
- robotard comment of yearutopian
- well you fucked up the election, here are the consequences. a gov what shits on your face when real problems occur.sted
- they aren't just climate change denialists. just listen to this: https://www.youtube.… best answer at 5:00sted
- You dumbasses need a pope slap. https://www.news.com…robotron3k
- Arson starts 50% fires in Aussie... https://bit.ly/2ZTpC…robotron3k
- lifestyle news... ahh u moron. people visit news.com.au for gossip and celebrity news.sted
- He is telling you to get educated idiot.Hayoth
- Robo, eat shittank02
- Have “Robo” in your name is actually insult to Robots. It well known that Australian economy is based on fossil fuels. My girlfriend is currently at parents...necromation
- Outside Sydney and in 40 years this the hottest it’s ever been. They all know this is a few bush fire set by kids. Everything is dry! Her folks birds died...necromation
- Died outside the other day, from the heat. Right wing government Deny’s the fact to keep getting kick backs. This gov is gonenecromation
- *Correction - the folks know this NOT a few fires set by kids!necromation
- here in melborune everything smelled like ash the other day, and it turned out that large area is burning 2 hours from the cbdsted
- but it's raining right now. i guess u guys in Sidney aren't this lucky :(sted
- dying reef, drought, country burning, people burning, mass death of animals, homes reduced to ash, 42˚ days in major cities.....inteliboy
- and robo trolls this forum with some shit about arsons. psychopath.inteliboy
- Unfortunately there is some truth in what robo is saying arson.thumb_screws
- https://aic.gov.au/p…thumb_screws
- That data is over 10 years old and by no means definitive.thumb_screws
- News.com.au links are down there with those from the Daily MailMrT
- Yes arsons have been lighting fires for centuries. Maybe lets start an arson thread. Worry about all the arsons. Clearly that is the solution to the problem.inteliboy
- Im by no means saying stopping arson and problem solved.thumb_screws
- https://www.youtube.…sted
- I read the comment before reading the name. Fucking knew it was Robotard.Hayzilla
- grafician7
- GAY.Nairn
- To save climate, and stop earths destruction, humans realised they needed to sacrifice themselves. All 7.6billion.shapesalad
- lol, as if diverting the NASA budget would make a differencemonospaced
- https://www.youtube.…kaiyohtee
- the science and technology around space travel is great for earth too.inteliboy
- There is no planet B!grafician
- This thread.garbage
- there is a planet B if you go to planet Bcannonball1978
- neverscared5
- Yup.Nairn
- Do we need industrial cooling?
Gotta tackle these prime directives for our kids , etc
-SHULAShulaDon92 - Greed is Good!utopian
- you can start by cancelling your amazon prime accounthotroddy
- It's gettin' hot in here, so take of all your clothes!!!ideaist
- burn the planet...u better get fireproof clothes !neverscared
- prometheus u sucker... why did u gave us sth we can´t handle and fuck it all up...neverscared
- doddy doddy...Guterres canceling his amazon prime will not help muchneverscared
- what amazes me is the urgency at which this is being discussed these days. Not like the writing hasn't been on the wall since - forever?dasohr
- it seems irrelevant as long as we can continue to plow our F350's through concrete wastelands, all while maxing out our credit cards on gas.dasohr
- Look at all 5 of those reporters!toemaas
- +3° till 2050 .. with network effects kickin in... its gonna be a global emergency and clusterfuck.... climate refugees higher than any numbers of any war.neverscared
- not buying your shit from china (world's biggest carbon emitter) will not help?hotroddy
- not enough ... if the decarbon tech is failing nuffing will help obviously..neverscared
- ignore the unelected little goblinzardoz
- indian_pole5
- Just watched this two days ago. Excellent, but, fuck me, I was angry afterwards.Continuity
- its crazy how China is ahead of us now in solar and wind because of the right and the bible thumping right is holding us backmoldero
- it's not real - the illuminati made it up.fadein11
- The Bible thumping, ignorant, racist, deniers are too busy at Drumpf rallies to give a fuck. They'll blame the Liberals when the planet comes to an end.utopian
- +1 molderocanoe
- and china isn't doing this just in a local level. they are the biggest alt. energy tech suppliers of australia and africa.sted
- Florida banned all state workers from evening saying the words "climate change" because they're so backward brainwashed.monospaced
- The GOP is not only a threat to the U.S. but the whole fucking worldmoldero
- China emits 25% of all global air pollution, they're the biggest polluter. The US is #2 at 15%. If you bring that back to Pollution to GDP ratio America iszarkonite
- actually doing pretty fucking good. Is there a LOT of work to be done? YES of course, but let's call a spade a spade.zarkonite
- look at these charts: http://data.worldban…zarkonite
- The US (along with most industrialized countries) are consistently becoming better at growing their economies while polluting less per dollars.zarkonite
- Yeah, but the US gutted its manufacturing base and sent it to China, and it has about a third of the population and has been #1 economy for decades. No excuse.detritus
- China's pivot to cleanTech was internal (re: smog) and it has singularly made leaps and bounds in very few years, showing up all us hypocrite cunts in the Westdetritus
- Whilst America invented Solar cells and Carter was mocked for putting them on the white house. Where are those panels now? In China, on display. Our hubris.detritus
- China's masterplan was to reach peak CO2 emissions by 2030 - analysts suggest they'll hit that in 2020, and then some. What's our excuse in the West? Profit.detritus
- We're the bad guys here, not them, no matter what charts you pull out of your rear-end.detritus
- We will see. So far we're leading. Where's the Chinese Tesla? The US are actually shutting down their coal plants, not China. Profits rule everywhere fool.zarkonite
- http://data.worldban…zarkonite
- You can see above that from 2002 to 2012 there's a marked ACCELERATION of Co2 emissions. So much for leaps and bounds.zarkonite
- actually debating with data and shit. good job people.lowimpakt
- 2002-2012? No shit, hombre? 2012's the year they instituted their next social/tech plan - and look what they've accomplished in less than 4 years!detritus
- And as much as I blow smoke up Musk's ass, China's Solar City and Chinese cell production has so far accomplished much more than dear Tesla, but..detritus
- I might be less skeptical if it wasn't for shitty politicians who gets us into endless wars and trillions in debt...IRNlun6
- ... or hypocritical actors who fly their private planes to give speeches on global warming. Do you know what fuels pollute the most? War machines and airplanes.IRNlun6
- Not to mention the manufacturing of batteries and solar panels which are horrible for the environment. Fuck out of here taking my taxes to enrich this scum.IRNlun6
- China doesn't give a fuck about the environment up until their citizens can't even breath so they make small concessions and get praised for it.IRNlun6
- Ramanisky25
Pictures taken from the same location in the Arctic 100 years apart.
- RIP earthnb
- Earth will be fine.PhanLo
- RIP humanityutopian
- make a nft of it.. its so good for the climate.neverscared
- Same locations, different seasons.pablo28
- location*pablo28
- meh, looks like the glacier's retreated a km or two. Season looks the same, given the similar snow coverage on the mountains in the background.Nairn
- This is incredible levels of melt not just seasonal change.monospaced
- Took him all that time to save up for that nippy speedboat.microkorg
- https://geekologie.c…pablo28
- inteliboy1
- Even with all this, its not enough to make the World realise Climate Change is really something we should take care about AQAP.Bennn
- We, sadly, need massive deads. And in Western country.Bennn
- Looks warm! The issue is that climate change will make it survival of the fittest/wealthiest. We need to adjust our ways as the planet will be just fine.Ianbolton
- massive deads will come from melting icecaps and rising seashans_glib
- massive deads will come from an asteroid hitting usHayzilla
- the massive deads will occur incrementally, so we don't notice. We're like the frog in the pot that doesn't know he's slowly being boiled.Fax_Benson
- Death men walking.Nairn
- Gotta say, it all is a bit fucked. Decades ago we were told this is exactly what was going to happen...inteliboy
- Thanks for ruining my future QBNIanbolton
- It's a dramatic color scale that is normally used to show a -10 to +30°C range.stewart
- We have to think in a time scale that doesnt make sense to us, who only live 75~90 years.Bennn
- Talking about time scale like 350 or 500 years doesnt seems to touch us. its too many.Bennn
- https://wattsupwitht…BustySaintClaire
- ^ cool, thanks for posting the contrarian view. We can all relax now. Nothing to worry about guys. Pumping Co2 into our air is clearly a-okay!inteliboy
- and the supportive view inteliboy? kill a majority of humans or destroy industries that allow for shit like iphones?deathboy
- and ben you base your scale of reference soley on an emo/selfish point of view. go big like 100k or even 40k which data suggests are bigger cyclesdeathboy
- outside human control. unless you think humanity can unite and stop climate change in her tracks? haha if that was a possibility i'd wonder about the effectsdeathboy
- I’d like to see every eco warrior put down their twitter and install and go live in a cabin in the woods ted kascinzki style lol_niko
- Seriously bennn, you being on your computer, living in your house in a major city is contributing to it all, so unplug and go live in the wilderness_niko
- It’s not trump or China or Putin... it’s you. So if you’re really concerned, in the famous words or Ricky Roma- “what are you going to do about it, asshole”_niko
- We are all assholes if we sit here, complain, point fingers but refuse to give up our lifestyle._niko
- How was your morning cup of coffee? Locally picked in the rainforests of Quebec I’m sure. Can you give up any of your luxuries?_niko
- Your phone, your car, your shoes, your clothes, your toiletries, your computer, your tv, your Netflix, your internet, your books?_niko
- It all contributes to the byproduct of co2 emissions into the atmosphere. So can we give this all up?_niko
- Its going to be taken away from us one way or another. Its only now that we have some influence on how this is going to happenjamesbeat
- And if we ever get it backjamesbeat
- niko - not sure what your point is? but yes, we all are gobbling up energy. but we also are not political or industry leaders in power.inteliboy
- inteliboy are you advocating the "people in power" force people how to live their lives?deathboy
- BuddhaHat3
Phoenix ends record 31-day streak of above 110-degree weather
Phoenix record-breaking hot streak of 31 consecutive days of 110 degrees or higher came to an end Monday, when temperatures at the city’s airport reached just 108, the National Weather Service said.
The old streak was 18 back-to-back days of highs above 110 degrees, which was set in 1974.
My city has had a few 105+ days in a row and it made life so uncomfortable. This is insane.
- it called the age of boiling...neverscared
- good news. who doesnt like nice weather?zardoz
- it´sneverscared
- jealous. it's 16c here and pishing down.zardoz
- u enjoy deadly extrem heat and people suffering equal to pushing migrants back into the sea..time to c a doctor for mental health for you is on the list..neverscared
- 110 degree? Can people even live above the boiling point of water?!!?milfhunter
- Nicolas Cage is one of the strongest forms of crapmongering on earth.CyBrainX
- ^ Wrong thread, but still true.CyBrainX
- I was in Phoenix in 1995 and it was pretty hot there already. 104°F at 9PM. They said the city is knowing for being the hottest in Arizona.SimonFFM
- that's hot.utopian
- Not missing the weather... but I miss just about everything else :/PonyBoy
- How does he have a deep V yet a belly, but then abs??Akagiyama
- the weather is the everything else.utopian
- Time we cut our power, scrap our cars and stop going to restaurants, grocery stores etc etc... Every last one of us is at fault.PonyBoy
- but mostly conservativesmonospaced
- Yep... and those smug fucks who can’t be bothered to watch their programming on anything less than a 4K screen... imagine the resources they burn through daily. <3PonyBoy
- yuekit2
This is Why We Should Stop Calling it Climate Change
https://eand.co/this-is-why-we-s…
How many people knew this? The term "climate change" is actually the invention of a Republican political consultant (you could say propagandist), Frank Luntz.
Luntz was big on pointing out how the choice of words can influence public opinion. He invented the term "death tax" to replace inheritance tax, "off-shore exploration" instead of oil drilling. This is the memo he originally sent to George Bush back in the early 2000s:
"Voters believe that there is no consensus about global warming within the scientific community. Should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly. Therefore, you need to continue to make the lack of scientific certainty a primary issue in the debate. The phrase "global warming" should be abandoned in favor of 'climate change'."
Apparently Luntz now regrets all of this and says he's no longer a Republican...but two decades later everyone is still saying the more neutral-sounding climate change instead of global warming.
- "Drill Baby Drill...Let's Go Brandon!"utopian
- All my liberal, well-educated intellectual friends supported this change in language at the time. Not knowing they were being dupednb
- They told me “you shouldn’t say global warming because it implies that if we have a slight drop one year then we don’t have to worry. Say ‘climate change’ ”nb
- Someone probably told them that the term global warming was racist.Chimp
- All marketing. There will surely be an article like and how FB, 'the big lie', etc., was promoted and marketed.formed
- While the D's continue to come up with stupid titles like "defund the police."formed
- Yeah but on the flip side it’s going to be a banner year for my tomatoes!_niko
- I cringe every time I hear “The Big Lie”. They need to hire this guy to come up with something a little more zingier.instrmntl
- Nobody really cared what it’s called. Some simply wanted to address the problem and some chose to ignore it.monospaced
- "Treason and Traitor" would have been a good term to start using.formed
- That's the thing Democrats titles are made by the activist while Republicans have lobbyist.pango
- an idiot says that the DNC coined the phrase "defund the police" to detract from the fact that police are military prepared to murder you without consequence.imbecile
- but yeah, blame democrats because police murder US citizens constantly, fucking idiotimbecile
- only a dimwit of incredible proportions assumes that only the party he/she doesnt like is doing this sort of PR.pr2
- and only even bigger dimwit belives a complex issue like changing climate is settled only because its hot outside in his part of the world.pr2
- monoboy5
"40% of the US does not see climate change as a problem since Christ is returning in a few decades."
And Jesus said unto them...
"Ya'll fucked that up something special Billybob, so amma gonna blast all ye highfalutin rich folks to hell and put the poor folks back in charge. Blessed are the meek 'n all."
Which ironically isn't true, because religion is just a convenient form of people control derived and perpetuated by an educated wealthy elite.
- AmenmoIdero
- exactly why it's so scary who Trump is picking for his teammonospaced
- I wonder if anyone on QBN is part of that 40% or not.monospaced
- from what I gathered we have a few church goers here but their the smart ones, we have 2 from TX though that I'm not too sure aboutmoIdero
- I guess that means the majority of americans accept that climate change is a problem (and that J's not on his way)Gnash
- I still can't quite believe Pence is VP. He wants mothers of miscarriages to pay for foetus funerals. Vindictive insanity.monoboy
- GOP = less government!
Except for women, then the government's all up in that pussymoIdero - Conservative christians share similar views to conservative muslims. Peas in a pod.monoboy
- so does the other 60% see it as a gov solvable problem like they have the powers of this jesus guy? they can stop change in its tracksdeathboy
- FUCKING
AMEN
BRAHutopian - @deathboy, nobody's asking gov to solve it, but to continue to support and further it and not deny and halt it.monospaced
- Lobbyists are asking gov for public funds so they have a campaign platform. and many of these politicians believe they can stop climate change.deathboy
- i see a big lie. small governments rarely can get shit done, how do we expect world. no one can imagine the global economic impacts let alone try and create adeathboy
- benchmark of progress.deathboy
- nothing wrong with individuals practicing the three RRRs, i see vast unintended consequences, and 0 results from global policies, esp with no measure of successdeathboy
- so far their measures of success look like business growth models. which pretty much makes sensedeathboy
- Most gov/bis concerns are short-term. The concerns from scientists on global warming pre-date the 1960s. Going beyond economic cycles. Not about money for them.monoboy
- It's not about solving world issues alone, it's about doing our part as a major contributor to the issue. It's about investing in things that ensure a future.monospaced
- Yes, there have to be incentives to do this, unfortunately, but at the same time there is a lot of new gov-funded infrastructure that could take advantage too.monospaced
- Setting the standard, being a good example of how to do these on a nation-wide level is a step toward stopping negative impacts to the climate we all share.monospaced
- and how do we measure if what we are doing has any impact, and wether its worth the costs?deathboy
- all the current billions spent so far on green technologies has bought us how many years? what is the goaldeathboy
- https://67.media.tum…deathboy
- ^ its like this guy just saying all i need is to get this header home. i think ppl are focused too much on blind hopedeathboy
- how, what is the impact, problems, costs, and when u get him home than what. its just aspirational marketing, just waste less food it will help moredeathboy
- A few decades?? Lol ffsfuturefood
- Foam at the mouth as socialist progressives! Attack those that don't side with your group think! Get'em!Hayoth
- climate models are a lot like wallstreet stock models to me, you can model and predict and see what happens with time. but if we are as significant as led todeathboy
- believe than i see a large amount of volatility that likely will scrap any model. its interesting. id love to see data points around mayan devastationdeathboy
- if there are multiple data spots dated back to the fall around the world. Curious if strong small changes can have huge effects globally balancing outdeathboy
- all models and predictions... i guess thats the point. we think of science as the new religion. we have iphones so we must no all. have some skeptisismdeathboy
- challenge stuff. Most published findings end up being false. Dont make the science into a false prophet or religion. Religion got popular because masses newdeathboy
- no better. People who didnt know read/write would believe whatever anyone said that was a scholar and could read and write, bible first printed word.deathboy
- there's plenty of parallels to science and religiondeathboy
- @deathboy, just because you don't know exactly how it's measured doesn't mean it isn't by a plethora of climate scientists and tools worldwide, every momentmonospaced
- and no, most published findings on the matter do NOT end up being falsemonospaced
- utopian4
- depressinghotroddy
- but true.sted
- Low information votersHayoth
- ^ that's funny coming from someone who denies sciencemoldero
- northwest passage for the win!Gnash
- I drink your milkshake!jmckinno
- hoax. downvoted.pablo28
- hoax = head in arsemoldero
- Info Wars Deniers, the brains of a dinosaur...why they went extinct.utopian
- looks like pigeon poopmaquito
- Bluejam7
- ExactlyBennn
- *slow claps.pango
- https://www.youtube.…SimonFFM
- https://www.youtube.…pango
- Next time, don't send the clown.Nairn
- ^ thisGnash
- neverscared6
- this is fine...neverscared
- Doesn't it smell like rotting mussels in there?stewart
- Wherenb
- everywhere soon...neverscared
- wuhan...neverscared
- Are we flooding or are we droughting? I can never keep straight which is the latest "inevitable" disaster.MondoMorphic
- I can smell this image.utopian
- PhanLo3
- Start of mad maxmonospaced
- It never worked out very well in Syria with their water protests.PhanLo
- Oh nonb
- Fun fact: By 2025, there's a projected population boom of approximately one billion people, mostly in developing countries.garbage
- The Pentagon and other world powers have been bracing for this for years, but the age of water conflict is already here. This is going to be ugly.garbage
- or Russia and China will step in and provide technology and economy to solve the problem with a more peaceful approach?uan
- why in poor countries with bad politics, poor economics, civil fractions, lack of natural resources etc do they breed like rabbits? Compounding their problems.shapesalad
- clotshot depop to the rescue...Brabo_Brabo
- Go put on your tinfoil hat.garbage
- @shapesalad in Bulgaria, plenty of water naturally, but failing to menage properly, the rest is bad, poor and lack..
only the gypsies breads like rabbits here/musikum
