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- ladyboy0
You are correct Wim
And I'm completely in the wrong - no denying it.
It's just the penalty I have a problem with - and I'm perplexed that Getty would destroy a relationship over this. Like I said I've probably been solely responsible for the purchase of over 70k in getty images over the years (I select the images and the agency or client pays for them). I have another 20 years at least in me. Think about that revenue loss for getty if I never bought another from them or any of their properties. What if I even convinced co-workers of mine not buy from them.
I tried to settle with them for what was a reesonable price plus penalty.
It's just bad business. Not saying it's right what I did but a bit understandable if you look at it. Shit's just not black and white in business - a lot of grey.
- ********0
Just play "reasonable". And apologize. Be that naive helpless little designer. It may work for you. Goodluck man.
- MrD0
just go to court
if you feel wronged.
getty posts their image on good faith that you wont violate their terms.
you violated their faith.
you as a customer, stole from them.
if you think this is bad business, than you should just simply pay the fine since you have admited your guilt.
it seems like you say its bad business but it seems like you just dont want to pay. same as how clients wont pay when you have give them the design.
- ladyboy0
Forget signing up someone you hate for porn spam - if you really want to fuck someone make a 600x400 photoshop collage using 80 getty images - sneak it onto their site and let the bots pick it up.
Getty will shake them down for half a million
- ********0
client no pay is bad.
i is bad when i give design to client but no pay.
grrrrr!
- MrD0
i prefer stealing someone else's design and calling it my own and sell it work get more work
if they find out, and ask for $7000, i will try to talk them down because I think that design isnt worth that much.
and i feel screwed cause they are a big design firm and i am just a freelancer alone designer.
so i think i am gonna take them to court or get a lawyer to bargain them down.
but hey i took the work down
- ********0
i always go for the sorry and sad face. i also try to collect-call them to show i is really poor. i just had enough money to buy a computer and maek designworks.
- ********0
anyway, look at it from the bright side.
talking shit about that great legendary design firm 2advanced on messageboards will cost you over 50k.
just sayin'.
- ladyboy0
It's not the same MrD -
I fully admit the crime - for whatever the reason - yes I've wronged.
I'm fully willing to pay and have told Getty this. My problem is the amount they're asking which is totally unreasonable.
Business is all about negotiations (unfortunately) and I've been in many situations where things go sour or something happens and you have to renegotiate your fees or whatever. You try to come to an understanding with a client so that you get your money but they don't feel like you ripped them off.
If getty said - "I don't care kid your're guilty you owe us $900 for image and our pone calls" I would have said OK, paid it, never made the same mistake again, continued to use Getty, and we would all not be responding to Ladyboy
- BonSeff0
the difference in dinky example is that his hypothetical design firm isnt banging people over the head with catalogs and direct mail begging you to use their designs.
- mg330
I think the main problem here was in using Getty at all.
istockphoto.com is so much cheaper!
- MrD0
of course its the same
arent photographers in the creative business?
why is it unreasonable?
its not even royalty free, its RIGHTS Managed
you should know this better. if you license the image to someone, and that image is being used some where else, Getty violated that contract with the client. The violation comes from people stealing images.
If you are using the image for personal use that does not lead to more income, than you have more leverage to down play the amount but the fact that you are using it to get more work, thats worst.
if this wasnt getty, if it was an independent photographer, would you have had the same reaction? maybe you think that Getty can afford to lose some money.
- MrD0
bonseff
but didnt you sign up for the catalogs?
you know you have the options not use them.
its like saying, the girl was begging me touch her because she dressed like a skank.
- ladyboy0
hey mg -
I love istockphoto - use them a lot these days but they're owned by Getty as well. I feel Getty probably bought them just to destroy it someday. Think how much they must have been losing to istockphoto and other "reasonably" priced stock places. BTW www.pond5.com is the best for cheap stock video footage for all you motiongraphics wizards out there.
- BonSeff0
no, its different because the skank gives away the pussy for free contigent on the client liking the pussy.
- MrD0
no one gives away anything for free. thats why you get low res
its like you get a video of the skank doing her thing than you decide if you wanna buy
- pepe0
I got into a very similar circumstance where i made illustrations based off the photos i found on getty for the body poses. I didnt have any detail in the faces and it was vector shapes (almost ipod commercial-esque). Different enough or modified enough i thought. I was wrong. Getty found em and we had to pay 25k US. some of these other posts are right. Photographers took these photos and want to be paid for it.
That said just put a tagline that the image was a comp or something. Or swap out the layer of the photo used with a big fat middle finger. royalty free of course.
- Jaline0
25k? shit.
- MrD0
if one cant respect other creative work and its value, how can one put a price on his / her own creative work?