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- mrdobolina0
everything with you is still about the man and big government trying to take control.
kOna
(Jan 17 06, 07:08)What did I say about big government? I said real estate developers.
It is true, I just got out of a meeting with the Editor from one of our newspapers in New Orleans and he agreed with me about developers flocking to the region. We both agreed that Nagin shouldnt have said what he said, but there was some truth in it.
The Major difference is:
Do any white folks feel threatened by Nagin's remarks about a "Chocolate City"?
No.
Were the shoe on the other foot and someone were talking about a white city, a million blacks would be freaking out because of the white man's track record in the south.
So that isn't really a fair comparison.
- ********0
mrdobolina do you think its better to bring money in the state or keep it poor?
- mrdobolina0
at what cost, Question?
- mrdobolina0
at the cost of uprooting a million people who made that city what it is?
- ********0
"at what cost, Question?"
In other words - would you rather that new orleans stay the way it was before the floods? There was a lot of poverty. You were talking about money moving in and pushing out the black population. I was wondering if you thought that it was better to leave a population poor rather than moving money in.
Casinos and business is what has the capabilities of turning poverty to wealth but you seem to elude that they should leave it the way it was. The way it was, was poor.
What do you mean by "at what cost?"?
- ********0
I am just asking because you appear to be insinuating that money moving in is a bad thing for a poor population. I happen to think that is the way it can turn around by offering better paying jobs and better futures. If you wish that it should remain the way it was that would indicate that you would rather see poverty and struggle with no hope for the future.
- ********0
D*mn, is God angry at Boca Raton, FL, Las Vegas & Rodeo Drive too?
Alrighty then Ray... and you're supposed to be leading NO out of a crisis.
Laughable leadership.
- mrdobolina0
If there are luxury high rise condos, golf courses and resorts being built, who do you think is going to be there, Question?
It is institutionalized gentrification that Nagin talks about mostly (not necessarily in this speech).
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btw, I'm blaming the corrupt leadership there not the innocent people. It's not just him, many others in the past, which probably also include whities
- ********0
Been busy, so Ihaven't gotten to this thread:
A) Kona I train capoeira and other fighting arts. Trust me, I can defend myself. You wouldn't want to get into a ring with me. Nice way to reframe the debate by attacking me personally, by the way.
B) If you guys think there is no difference between a dominant culture and a subservient culture in the US you're either blind and/or dishonest. If you don't think certain classes and races have the deck stacked against them..
The thing is New Orleans represents not only a city of vital economic and security issues for the US, but is also THE birthplace of much of african culture in the US. It is CULTURALLY important for the United States.
And let me tell you, a milky city like Mt St Helens will be repaired much quicker than the "choclate" one of New Orleans. You lonly need to check out the news to see this.
Moving money in is far form a bad thing, but why didn't it happen when the poor people where there and needed it, instead of now that they are conveniently in trailer parks in Houston and wherever else, USA?
- chaztoo0
That mayor totally stole the idea of rebuilding the city out of chocoalte from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Didn't he watch the whole scene? That nice Indian prince and his beautiful wife had their house melt down around them.
If he thinks that will work in real life, he shouldn't be mayor. And I really don't see what his poor ideas on civil engineering have to to with racism. Did I miss something?
- ********0
If there are luxury high rise condos, golf courses and resorts being built, who do you think is going to be there, Question?
It is institutionalized gentrification that Nagin talks about mostly (not necessarily in this speech).
mrdobolina
(Jan 17 06, 08:10)Hotels, casinos, resorts, golf courses, etc. all provide jobs for locals dont they?
So do you think it would be better to revert the way it was, poor? Leave it the way it was before the floods?
- mrdobolina0
Also, the term "reverse racism" bugs me.
Racism without power is just prejudice.
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Racism without power is just prejudice.
mrdobolina
(Jan 17 06, 08:16)
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Nicely put.
- ********0
A) Kona I train capoeira and other fighting arts. Trust me, I can defend myself. You wouldn't want to get into a ring with me. Nice way to reframe the debate by attacking me personally, by the way.
TheTick
(Jan 17 06, 08:14)Ok Chuck Norris, at what point in this thread did I attack you personally? Also, in all debates do you somehow assume everyone wants to get into a ring with you and fight? Frankly I have no idea where your above statements come from. I even went back and looked. I still have no idea what you're on about. How about you stop the fighting arts and pick up Tai Chi and fucking relax.
- mrdobolina0
That city has tons of culture, Question.
So resorts, casinos and golf courses are probably best left to Vegas, the city with the least culture in the US.
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Luxury high rise condos, golf courses and resorts being built?
Damn that's a lot of jobs.
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Kona...1001 Apologies..I though tit was you who said something, but it was uberdesigner:
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anybody who thinks theyre going to defend themselves from a mugger by doing handstands and flailing their legs around is not living in the real world
uberdesigner
(Jan 17 06, 06:51)
----------------------------Sorry bro...
- ********0
"Moving money in is far form a bad thing, but why didn't it happen when the poor people where there and needed it, instead of now that they are conveniently in trailer parks in Houston and wherever else, USA?"
Maybe investors hadn't seen it as lucrative before the floods. Do you expect to see people throw money at a state because there is poverty there? Has that ever happened before in any country? What kind of sense is that?
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That city has tons of culture, Question.
So resorts, casinos and golf courses are probably best left to Vegas, the city with the least culture in the US.
mrdobolina
(Jan 17 06, 08:18)So you still haven't answered the question and I guess your answer then is "yes" you would rather it remain the way it was before the floods. Poor.