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  • YakuZoku17

    I don’t support political violence. I never have and I never will. What happened to Charlie Kirk is not something to celebrate.

    But let's not act like he's some innocent voice of reason. His entire brand has been about dividing people, turning Americans against each other, feeding the outrage machine for profit and power. He chose that path. He built his platform by stoking fear and resentment.

    And it's not just him. It's every hardcore left or right pundit who spends their life pouring gasoline on every cultural fire. They're not patriots. They're not heroes. They're distractions. Tools of the elite, keeping regular Americans too busy fighting each other to ever come together and demand real change.

    So no, I don’t condone what happened. But I also won’t pretend that people like Kirk aren’t part of the problem. If your job is to keep Americans hating each other, you are the enemy of progress, of unity, of any hope this country has left.

    We need to stop idolizing these chaos merchants. They're not leading us. They're using us.

    • He made good money, building a $12 million fortune. The incentive was to create division and have people invest in him, he did really well.PhanLo
    • capitalism at work._niko
    • But you seem to support the actions of Luigi Mangione, as evident here: https://www.qbn.com/…curiouscat
    • Why is it "political violence" when nobody knows who and why they did it yet? Most MAGA dogs on X blaming the Left, for no reason!

      America is crazy.
      grafician
    • So what you're saying is Kirk is no MLK?canoe
    • Wow. Prompt?
      .
      .
      j/k.
      Nairn
    • violence is bad mmkay. but i dont feel bad for this one. I only feel sad that a person can be such a prick that people don't feel bad when they're dead.pango
    • @curiouscat aka grafician you're comparing apples to orangesYakuZoku
    • grafician is basically egging us all on to fight each other while he watches on enjoying the show, stay out of our shit bitch assYakuZoku
    • In the present, everyone will be famous for 15 minutes.ideaist
    • Graf has the strangest boner for all things America, his obsession with America still leaves me profoundly dumbfounded.utopian
    • Again, not grafican, but if that helps, sure. I actually like what you wrote here. I think you nailed it. You state you do not support political violence, but...curiouscat
    • you do seem to support the killing of an insurance executive. Yes, not apples to apples, but somewhat contradicts your position stated here.curiouscat
    • so you think an insurance executive is a politician on one side? what side did he serve? that's what I thought graf, now let the big boys talkYakuZoku
    • and go eat a sandwich and try and go lift somethingYakuZoku
    • "We need to stop idolizing these chaos merchants. They're not leading us. They're using us." Is that not what you did in the Luigi = Hero thread?curiouscat
    • He created the culture that killed him. Whomp whomp. Thoughts and prayers for the family.pango
    • Uhm...I'm not curiouscat, I don't have other accounts - LIKE YOU :))grafician
    • And for the rest, stfu and wait for the Patels of the FBIs to uncover some shit and find the actual guy and actual reason

      You're the new canoe of long posting
      grafician
    • just don't call me grafician pleaseYakuZoku
    • Political was when that democrat lady got shot in her house along the husband and dog by a maga guy

      This guy was just an influencer turned martyr it seems
      grafician
    • Shit posting, yes. Long posting, no. That's how our janitor likes it.canoe
    • If you think about it nearly everyone involved is an influencer of some kind. The president is a social media shitposter, Charlie Kirk was a podcasteryuekit
    • debate bro, the people running the FBI searching for Kirk's killer are podcasters. It's all just entertainment now and so the killer will probably also end upyuekit
    • being someone who was way too into online culture and podcasts.yuekit
    • They are following a method, this is nothing new. While you guys are wasting time cutting each others throat they can do whatever they like (as u can see)sted
    • Je ne suis pas Charliesrhadden
    • I don't know what we're arguing about anymore. You don't deserve to die for being a twat. but he was indeed a twat of highest magnitudebogue
    • He shouldn't have been shot. And he was indeed a piece of shit.pango
    • your on a list now.autoflavour
    • ok :)pango
  • bainbridge0

    Damn, Oreo cookies are delicious.

  • OBBTKN5

    My youngest daugther is on the beach on Sicily this now <3

    I want to be 20 again.

  • renderedred9

    In all of this chaos we are in now I wish you all a nice weekend. Have fun people, I'm not sure for how much longer we'll be able to do it.

  • Gnash0

    Had to drive five hours last night to Windsor, ON so that my daughter could write the MCAT exam this morning at 8am (go girl!)

    Holy crap. this town is a depressing fucking place. would not recommend

    • Never give up! Go girl <3OBBTKN
    • Yah, Windsor has gone to shit... it used to be vibrant 20 years ago... my racist uncle blames immigration, I blame heroincanoe
    • Ya, did see plenty of drug users. I would imagine that Windsor and Detroit linked economically. But dang, it was sadGnash
    • It is sad... Sioux Ste Marie was like that too. Windsor and Detroit are both messed up, but it's independent, not co-dependent.canoe
  • jagara2

    On a walk in Copenhagen, I saw this hipster looking guy walking around with what from a distance looked like an unusually big gray husky-ish dog. I approached the guy, and out of curiosity asked him what kind of dog it was. "Oh, it's a wolf" he said, smiling, struggling to contain it. It looked me straight in the eye, pulled the leash, showed its teeth and growled violently at me from more than a 5 meter distance.

    Probably some kind of wolf-dog hybrid. Why? Why do you have that kind of animal in a densely populated city? Dangerous for people, probably stressful as hell for the animal. Fucking idiot.

    • (not my image, but it looked exactly like that)jagara
    • I've seen a few here too. They don't seem too agressive but they do seem hard to control.Chimp
    • Where u live?jagara
  • grafician-6

    curiouscat bro who are you?

    I have an open identity here like the normal designers and artists, you did nothing wrong, but let's prove to the morons around here we're not the same lol

    • lol this is hilarious :)))

      https://www.qbn.com/…
      grafician
    • Bro they don't believe we're nott the same, they even have espresso machines at home :)))grafician
    • https://i.haasie.com…pango
    • curiouscat since 2023 certified by drgs

      IF you think drgs would EVER certify me then you are truly morans :))

      monoscpaced
      Moldy
      redneck
      canoe
      etcv
      grafician
    • I am also not drgs :))grafician
    • It's not 4am, it's 6am, going for my run, deal with it

      lol
      grafician
    • @curiouscat sorry man, for getting you in the cross fire, there are really idiots around, what can we do...grafician
    • lol drgs certified everybody. Even your neighbour's cat. He was trolling.pango
    • But are you sure? If we prove this wrong, are you going on the idiots list yourself? :)grafician
    • Think about it ;)grafician
    • i'm pretty sure with no proof. so just put me on the list already. I don't wanna get left out.pango
    • You're pretty sure curiouscat is me? lol

      Nah, we good
      grafician
    • No. I'm pretty sure drgs was trolling. No idea who curiouscat is. i'm just here to eat popcorn and hackle.pango
    • It's a shame curiouscat has been so quiet since.palimpsest
    • Ah yes palimsest the guy that practically lives on QBN doesn't get people have lives...grafician
    • Your life of hanging out with boys for beers and trolling an online forum until 4am on weekends isn’t a life to be proud of.monospaced
    • And I invite you to criticize my situation. You’ll only make a fool of yourself even attempting it.monospaced
    • I could care less about curiouscat, @graf, I only have eyes for youcanoe
    • https://tenor.com/en…pango
  • palimpsest0

    Let's get toxic!

  • HAYZ1LLLA4

    Anybody remember that Hedge guy on here. LOL

    • For stocks, hell yeah!palimpsest
    • A troll with many usernamesutopian
    • Llyod?stoplying
    • yup i membah.renderedred
    • Yurimon goes by Grafician nowYakuZoku
    • That little twerp comes to mind from time to time... he's probably in rehab... don't like 90% of trust fund kids end up there?canoe
  • palimpsest5

    • Lugiutopian
    • which pizza-faced, bible up his ass,
      king of the wiener-men is this?
      futurefood
    • Rick GhastlyPhanLo
    • Looks like some insufferable influencer of some kind. Never seen his annoying face.jagara
  • Gardener2

    45 years to the day since I saw Gary on his Teletour, he came on stage in a little car amongst a lot of fog, it was a great show.

  • NBQ00-6

    One day y'all miss grafician like you miss set.

    • I was here before many, I will be here after them...grafician
    • set left after he dived the loony bins. you saying graf gonna follow his foot steps?pango
    • lolNBQ00
  • BusterBoy10

    Why the FUCK are we getting so much Charlie Kirk news here in Australia? Making me want to puke...all the eulogising as though this guy was a fucking Saint.

    Sure I feel bad for his family...but he was a nobody here other than for a few fringe dwellers.

    • politicians and culture warriors pushing hardpango
    • I'm guessing perhaps Right wingers and christians had him on their radar - i was surprised to see mourning from people in my hometown for him.Nairn
    • Somebody is heating up these things down therested
    • His smiley face jesus hate group funded to the tune of $92 million a year. We'll be hearing about him for a long time even though he was irrelevant.PhanLo
    • Did you hear about George Floyd too?Gnash
    • Distraction(s) from the Epstein file(s) and general (civil) unrest in the USA.ideaist
    • Rupert?stoplying
    • How the EU’s far right has seized on Charlie Kirk’s killingneverscared
    • https://www.theguard…neverscared
    • Hate Loves Hateutopian
    • Yeah never liked Star Trek! ;) But yes agree! BB!sab
    • Well. I regret to inform you that the US is the most powerful nation in the world, and that its news are prioritzed worldwide.jagara
    • Political unrest in the US affects the world.jagara
    • Fuck the saint bit ;)jagara
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  • robthelad7

    I've somehow found myself among a growing number of NPCs.

  • NBQ00-4

    I wish all the money from Elon, Bezos, Oracle guy, Zuck would be transferred to my bank account and those billionaires waking up realizing they have $0 in their bank account and have no idea how it could have happened.

  • NBQ00-1

    Get rich or die on QBN

    • Myeah not closing the lights around here...grafician
    • I got some money from upvoting the money catsYakuZoku
  • pango18

    one does not simply

    • you guys better not upvote me this time.pango
    • oh fuck off!pango
    • I read this off my thigh...robthelad
    • Deal with it.palimpsest
    • It's not even a complete sentence! It's a boring nonsense!
      I can't prove a point if you guys keep upvoting me!
      pango
  • jagara4

    When is the QBN podcast back?

    • i'd like to be a guestrobthelad
    • Now we're talking about a different type of podcast but we can make that happen. Hit me up.palimpsest
  • Horp15

    I've started drawing again.

    I don't know what I'm doing, except that my experience of being a commercial illustrator for around five years (largely lived out at full volume here on QBN 15 years ago) lead me down a niche little path in terms of a kind of drawing that became the only thing I truly enjoyed doing.

    But at that time it constantly vexed and troubled me that stylistically I was not very good. Not graceful, not fluid ... not aesthetically perfect.

    At this point in life I am 55-and-a-half. I've learned, finally, that it's time for my career to end, for my sake. I had a couple of tries at retiring from it, but I always ended up agreeing to go back to it; then regretting that.

    Now the world has shifted so much that (a) literally nobody anywhere would consider an old, 20th century fuck like me for the new 21st century job descriptions and (b) at no point do I *ever* read a job spec now and think "oh that's exciting I'd love to be doing that".

    In fact 100% of job specs instantly make me recoil and shudder and think "Fuck no. I'm no masochist. I do NOT want that to be part of my life 5 days a week."

    So I'll dabble in a little freelance research when I could do with a top up, and otherwise, I'm just noodling about doing what I *want* to be doing.

    I might take my HGV license test and do some long distance (Britain's version of long distance, hehehe) truck driving too.

    But I've returned to my odd, not very appealing, not very attractive drawing style, and I love it. It's not actually even that I love it, it's more that it feels like the natural motor-cerebral thing I'm supposed to do.

    I used to do it with pencil, and I started off doing it with pencil again. But there are limitations to pencil. It always looks a bit washed out. It's always just that silvery grey color. The pencil indents the paper so that with heavy working you see the earlier lines as white ghost lines. Pencil is waxy so doing colour washes over it gets muddy and crabby.

    I wanted to go back to doing it at a really large scale again. I used to have a 1metre square easel. Just now I'm dabbling up to A2 size while I iron out the cranky uncertainty and retrain myself.

    So I'm now doing these things I do in charcoal at A2, and it's kind if working. I mean... it looks shit, but that's okay. Shitness is the road we all have to take if we dream of visiting greatness some day.

    I don't know. It just feels like this is what my default activity needs to be. No commercial ambition for it. I just need to make these shapes, and get better at it, and avoid turning it into social content along with 7billion other people who do more interesting things immeasurably better.

    I just need to do this, and have no objective but to master it quietly for nobody's evaluation but my own.

    • You should do the HGV thing, if only to have another skill you can use, if not 5 days a week.Nairn
    • Fuck, pressed submit too early there - "..and you've been going on about getting it for quite a while now! :)"Nairn
    • If nothing else, your drawings always had a very specifially-you style, and I suspect human art will be in demand in future, in defiance of the automated.Nairn
    • Thanks Nairn. Yeah HGV idea is probably 20yrs in gestation now :)Horp
    • And yes... in a way I think this rise in AI has fed into my decision to start drawing again. I've looked at a lot of what AI jas done over the last 2 years, ...Horp
    • And thought "well, I was kinda doing this with pencils" and somehow I decided "I enjoyed it, so do what you enjoy, and stop thinking about who/what...Horp
    • ... does what out there". I like being retired. I just need to not allow it to convert into destitution over time. So a little freelancing will suffice.Horp
    • The 'very specifically you style' is a very apt comment too. I came to realise that the marks we make, regardless of their quirks, are part of who we are.Horp
    • So there's something angsty and anxious about striving to draw another way. I've just accepted that this is what I do. It's a signature of my persona somehow.Horp
    • Good luck to you, Horp. It's nice to settle. I can't remember ur style, so plz post IG.bezoar
    • Thanks Bezoar. There's nothing to post. I shut my studio around 2008 and didn't keep anything. Also though there was the tacky photoshop shit I did for money...Horp
    • ... and then the clunky and odd drawings I did that never went anywhere other than on here. Those are long gone too. Hosting expired a long time back.Horp
    • And I was a neurotic PITA about it all back then. I have no desire to go back :DHorp
    • Understood. Keep on drawing, dude. It's therapeutic at the least, as I'm sure you know. Art trade?bezoar
    • HA! oops, sorry "master it quietly..." It's a wake n bake kind of morningbezoar
    • great news Horp!
      ...ffffffound this
      https://i.haasie.com…
      uan
    • Holy fuck Uan. Where did you find that???
      That's my big old easel. Wish I still had that now.
      Horp
    • I have returned to drawing in the same way you have.cannonball1978
    • found it buried deep in the structure of this machine...Desktop>De... searching for Horp.
      dated 12.6.2013
      uan
    • Desktop / Desktop-Files / Old-Desktop / firstDesktop / ...
      resolution is 1000x665 which was probably high-res
      uan
    • getting out of commercial illustration has been the best thing for me to enjoy creating stuff again too. S+bjladams
    • Commercial illustration market is brutal now... It kills the pleasure we feel creating. I draw way less than i want/need, busy at design and dev work...OBBTKN
    • but I'll get back to it soon!OBBTKN