America is Fucked
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- yuekit6
The reality however is this...
66% of Americans wanted to keep Roe, 34% wanted it overturned.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/…
In 2020 47% of Americans said they belonged to a church, down from 70% in 1999.
https://www.nbc15.com/2022/04/19…
Religion is in decline in America and what this decision actually represented was the victory of an extremist minority who managed to capture the Supreme Court thanks to their alliance with the GOP.
- Your facts are true, but the Supreme Court did not mention religion. They overturned this entirely based on legal opinion, not religious opinion.nb
- So, like, I’m with you, but we all need to accept that your argument is valid but it will never achieve the goal of getting women their rights backnb
- @nb, they don’t mention religion but that is undeniably the motivating force behind the entire thing. No question at allmonospaced
- Religion itself is a huge party line indicator. Far right thinking is inseparable from extreme Christian rhetoric. The two go hand im hand.monospaced
- Ok but if you make that argument they will simply point to the SC written opinion and you lose the debate.nb
- We have to fight smarter than that.nb
- 60-70% of Americans were against overturning Roe, so who are we trying to convince? It's more about calling out the people who did this...yuekit
- The GOP has had a decades-long project to stack the court with right-wing extremists. They did this largely to get evangelical Christians to vote for them.yuekit
- Earlier Supreme Courts reaffirmed Roe, only this extreme SC packed with religious fundamentalists was willing to overturn it.yuekit
- Exactly. I lose no debate. It isn’t a debate. The SC has a Christian stance that is not welcome or allowed.monospaced
- yuekit1
- So this is about secular atheists. Wow.monospaced
- Also there’s a conservative idea that people should have more kids so that america has enough people and doesn’t need to resort to immigrationnb
- Christians are awful peoplenb
- sausages0
Illinois Republican tells Trump rally that Roe verdict a ‘victory for white life’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-n…
May or my not have been a Freudian slip
- scarabin0
so do you think we’ll be seeing an uptick in anal sex because of the poophole loophole now or nah
- nb8
When the Taliban won the war I didn't imagine that a few months later we'd be forced to adopt their way of life
From twitter
- omahadesigns-1
- Wouldn’t do that much to change their minds. Anti-abortion people incl men are usually only anti-abortion until they need one.nb
- Yup.monospaced
- omahadesigns-6
In Ireland and Germany, abortion procedures are banned in the majority of cases after 12 weeks.
Italy doesn't allow abortions after 90 days, or just under 13 weeks. France, Austria and Spain have banned the procedure after 14 weeks.
- So they allow abortion then? Good to know...yuekit
- that's how it works...the around 3 month is the compromise society makes between rights of woman and rights of baby.uan
- Omaha struggles with basic human biology on a regular basis.monospaced
- To be clear, NOBODy is advocating for late term abortions at will. It seems to be a huge misconception among conservativesmonospaced
- Problem is we have states banning abortion after 2 weeks!!!! Most don’t know they’re pregnant at all at that point. Insane.monospaced
- No it's worse than that -- it's totally banned now in some states.yuekit
- "Map showing US states where abortions will likely become illegal"
https://twitter.com/…grafician - I know ukit it’s insane. So many lives ruinedmonospaced
- many abortion happy states have it set at 20-24 weeks. my friend's daughter was a preemie at 24 weeks - now a healthy 8 year old.pr2
- Yes many states allow abortion. 21 weeks isn’t late term. You anecdote about a premie is, of course, irrelevant just like your fucked brain.monospaced
- mono, the abortion should be legal when fetus shows no brain activity, so brain-dead imbeciles like you would never have to suffer.pr2
- I agree abortions should also be legal when the baby has major deformations. Problem with your comment is that I'm actually a very intelligent person.monospaced
- I suppose only a fucktard like you could accidentally make the case for abortion while attempting and failing to insult. Classic pr2 being an idiot.monospaced
- Funny thing is that you think you're insulting me, but you're just bolstering your own position as the most hated person on QBN. Also the most stupid.monospaced
- literally nobody here backs you upmonospaced
- yuekit0
- some far-right is fishing for votes. they go with any counter-opinion available to get elected and get political power. I don't think she has any chance in DE.uan
- The AfD are basically Nazis aren't they? Just found it funny they are the only ones praising it...yuekit
- they are a conglomerate of anti positions. Nationalists, conservatives, liberals, conspiracy nuts...they hate on everything, including themselves.uan
- yuekit0
United Nations, world leaders condemn USA decision as "backwards"
“Sexual and reproductive health and rights are the foundation of a life of choice, empowerment and equality for the world’s women and girls,” the secretary-general’s spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters on Friday.
World Health Organisation (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said he expected more of the United State when it came to the protection of women’s rights.
- omahadesigns-11
Biden Admin Replaces 'Mothers' With 'Birthing People' in Maternal Health Guidance
- Not an problem. Try again.monospaced
- it kind of is, you alienate a lot of women.tank02
- Right. Because women think THIS is the issue. Lol. (Hint: they don’t.)monospaced
- Also it alienates them from nothing in any conceivable way. So ... try again. America is fucked and I guarantee this is not on the list of reasons why.monospaced
- Monosplains by mansplainingGnash
- Retardsbabydick_
- gnash, in with nothing useful and also strikes out with a completely nonsense assessment of me. Weak trolling try again.monospaced
- these guys clearly needed the help based on the sheer ignorance on display behind their commentsmonospaced
- @monospaced Does your wife knows you're on QBN tonight?grafician
- I identify as a racist Japanese dog and my pronouns are woof/bark. Because I said so. Respect that, you stupid fuck.babydick_
- @graf does this decision affect you or anyone you know in any way whatsoever? are you even in a relationship or considering children?monospaced
- because yes she does know and she has the same point of view. Why do you ask?monospaced
- And you wonder why people voted for idiots like Trump...Chimp
- How many votes does the right gain every time the left does something stupid like this?Chimp
- You’re asking how many bigots are created and empowered every time the left moves toward equality?monospaced
- ^ Equality? Are you fucking high? Fucking bullshit dumbing-down is equality to you?babydick_
- Where is the end of this cuck fuckery? Let's call everyone EARTH PEOPLE? Fuck off, cunt.babydick_
- calm the fuck down, this is a non issue in every way, and that's my pointmonospaced
- grafician0
"America Is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good
The great “convergence” of the mid-20th century may have been an anomaly.
By Ronald Brownstein"
"To Podhorzer, the growing divisions between red and blue states represent a reversion to the lines of separation through much of the nation’s history. The differences among states in the Donald Trump era, he writes, are “very similar, both geographically and culturally, to the divides between the Union and the Confederacy. And those dividing lines were largely set at the nation’s founding, when slave states and free states forged an uneasy alliance to become ‘one nation.’”"
- The more woke the left becomes, the more extreme the right becomes.Chimp
- grafician-1
- They will not stop here - contraception, lgbt rights, etc. will follow, wait and see.
All these happen usually under communist regimes...grafician - We will also probably see actions to add the right to abortion in the constitutions of many countries in Europegrafician
- lol @ wait and see. You’re not making a prediction. It’s already in the works.monospaced
- So you're glad about it?
Wow.grafician - of course not, wtf? Have you not seen anything I’ve said on the topic?monospaced
- I’m laughing at what, to me, appears to be you attempting at being insightful. Maybe just my interpretation but it appears you thought you made a prediction.monospaced
- https://www.qbn.com/…imbecile
- They will not stop here - contraception, lgbt rights, etc. will follow, wait and see.
- nb5
pr2: “ Personally i think the local level often is closer to what the voters want.”
The problem with this argument is that it is intellectual but not human. To use an overly dramatic phrase, allowing states to make abortion a prosecutable crime is a kind of tyranny of the majority.
There are many things that democracy doesn’t solve. It’s why we have justices at various levels, all outside of government. It’s why colleges grant tenure. As a free society we accept many of these things all the time.
For example, if the people of Texas voted to re-instate slavery, would you argue that this is permissible because it’s “closer to what the voters want?” Of course not, that’s silly.
You’re arguing that a state legislature should be allowed to criminalize a doctor and patient for providing a service that is legally considered healthcare in another part of the country. And, you’re inferring that the voters should be allowed to overturn that decision every election cycle at a “local” level.
The argument is intellectual, perhaps even logical, but it is devoid of humanity. It ignores the human reality of what it means to live in a free society.
- +1monospaced
- i think you seem to be confused a bit. the "free society" decides the rules it wants. this is what humanity is about.pr2