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  • inteliboy0

    This was a good listen:

    Dr. Gregory A. Poland (Director of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group)
    Dr. Saad Omer (Director of the Yale Institute for Global Health)
    Zeynep Tufekci (Professor at Columbia University)

    Actual experts worth listening to. No DYOR karens. No QBN science lords. No Joe Rogan pseudo-science bro's. No cherry picked gotcha statistics.

    Main take out was they all agreed that the institutions failed us and made a complete mess of Covid. Not the vaccine itself being the issue, but the institutions not trusting in the population to navigate the constantly mutating virus. Lead to fear and the groundswell of misinformation and conspiracies.

    • finally some sensible approachsted
    • ahaha wtf j steward has a podcast lol, i had no idea :)sted
    • Good videoyoungdesigner
  • Raybandana-12

    • uh buddy, you are going to trigger the violent communists and nazis with this post. They don't like truth here in these parts.Hayoth
    • Have at ER'Raybandana
    • Who's they?yuekit
    • Almost every government and every mainstream media outlet.Rendle
    • Every government part of the world economic forum, to be precise.Rendle
    • Africa didn't suffer from covid, because most of their governments are not part of the world economic forum. It's very simple.Rendle
    • OK start with the first one. Which government said it couldn't come from the Wuhan lab?yuekit
    • I don't think any of them did except for China. The US government played a role in spreading this theory. The USA also approved HCQ for use...yuekit
    • And so did some other countries such as Brazil. So the list is really just a list of vague impressions people have, once you start looking into the detailsyuekit
    • Fuck off with this vague shit, cuntcrazyprick
    • it falls apart. If you're going to allege a global conspiracy it helps to be accurate and not just spew out a list of random things.yuekit
    • Do you guys trust governments and pharmaceutical companies?Raybandana
    • I don't trust a random nobody like youcrazyprick
    • yes we trust big Pharma and governments. you got us. We also trust the Vandenberg group, the illuminati, the Lizard Cabal and the stonecutters. we trust them al_niko
    • with your fucking gay ass turquoise PNG ThEy LiEd shitcrazyprick
    • I feel like this is 1994 and I'm having a conversation with my stoned 18 y/o buddies again._niko
    • #pizzagatecrazyprick
    • haha you guy sure are emotional.Raybandana
    • Emotional weak men.Raybandana
    • They lied about used a highly saturated cyan background colour with black type... IT IS STILL LEGIBLE.shapesalad
    • For sure the color is the most important thing about that image.Claymantis
    • Did you get this from your mum's facebook?dasohr
    • I got it from satan's facebook pageRaybandana
    • It's okay, my MIL also posts dumb shit all the time.dasohr
    • your mum is satan?!PonyBoy
    • good lord what a list of absolute insanity.
      just fuck off with conspiracy shit like that.
      ...and for the record, since this IS a design board....
      exador1
    • if you HAVE to post your crazy ass ramblings...have the decency to DESIGN it well...that cyan thing is fugly..exador1
    • You guys should design it, and show us how its done.Raybandana
    • Lol ss and exNairn
    • Khufu's pyramid is a giant sonic resonance instrument to communicate with the Aliens that passed down the knowledge of mathematics to the Egyptians!shapesalad
    • is this Kanye's new album cover?fadein11
    • ahahahha :D yested
    • Claymantis is Raybandana. Just sayin. He’s trump sucking morons who fell for Q and the big lie. Just remember the level of fucktard you’re seeing here.monospaced
  • _niko20

    Randle buddy, your rage is misguided.

    What you should be railing against is big alcohol - 750,000 cancers per year

    big tobacco - 2.5 million cancer deaths per year

    big food - 2.8 million die of obesity

    big industry - 7 million deaths per year from pollution

    heck ever big auto - 1.35 million automobile deaths per year.

    and you're on here daily spewing bullshit about what exactly? the vacccine causing 1000-10 000 unproven heart attacks?

    calm down, take a breath, go get laid or something.

    • ++sted
    • not as fun when trying to own libshydro74
    • are these heartattacks in the room right now.. wandle ?neverscared
    • No one was forced to smoke a cig or eat a hamburger or be sacked from their job. No one was forced to drink a beer or not be allowed to travel home.Rendle
    • but you're right, all of those things are huge killers. Far, far more than covid. Where was the government giving a single shit about health for any of that?Rendle
    • You sound so utterly foolish, because you're completely ignorant to the damage the vaccine has, but more importantly will, cause in people.Rendle
    • Your comments won't age well. I guarantee.Rendle
    • If you want to inject poison, keep getting boosted, destroy your immune system and likely be dead within 5 years, that's completely your free will.Rendle
    • If I'm such an idiot, and so completely wrong... who cares? Why are you all so emotionally triggered by it?Rendle
    • Vaccine wasn’t forced eithermonospaced
    • And covid vaccine isn’t destroying immune systems. It’s been 3 years, so you’re saying we have 2 left and we drop dead? You thought this through? Clown.monospaced
    • Please don’t drive with a seatbelt. Let’s see if you can figure that one out.monospaced
    • Cool coolrobotinc
    • The reasons we rushed to get these out was because morons like you refused to isolate and social distance or wear masks, you wanted your freedumb_niko
    • you didn't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, and now all of a sudden you care about the well-being of the world? right._niko
    • lolRendle
    • 'we'Rendle
    • I assume you'll be wearing a mask and social distancing for the rest of your life?Rendle
    • I don’t remember being forced to get a vaccinescarabin
    • You're not aware of the millions of people worldwide that were forced to get a vaccine or be fired?Rendle
    • Or the millions not allowed to travel unless they took an experimental injection? You think your experience represents the whole world? lol good lordRendle
    • Reason, logic and fair discussion has no place here, does it?Rendle
    • You're aware that every nurse and care worker lost their jobs in the UK unless they took an experimental injection? No? Then your input is invalid.Rendle
    • Please kindly shut the fuck up and keep out of business you know nothing about.Rendle
    • Another person on the list not worth my breath. Niko, are you going to social distance and wear a mask for the rest of your life?Rendle
    • well my dad's going through Chemo and radiation at the moment so if I want to visit him I absolutely social distance and wear a mask. It's sort of a blessing..._niko
    • that it's now socially acceptable to be socially responsible and not get other people sick. As for Covid in general it seems to have mutated to a less_niko
    • serious strain so for the moment I'm not super concerned about it, but if we get another Plague or pandemic I'll absolutely take whatever steps necessary to_niko
    • help combat it and reduce its lethal reach. I also spend my days worrying about my family and kids and living a happy life and not what the "global elites" are_niko
    • up to and if they're trying to hatch the next nefarious plot of world domination. Like Pizzagate 2.0 or whatever nonsense of the week you're usually on about_niko
    • and we've had mandated vaccines for years. Kids are not allowed to go to school if not immunized. But let me guess you're one of the vaccines cause autism crowd_niko
    • If you look at the numbers it's very likely that anti-vaxxers, collectively, have killed more people than Hitler.yuekit
    • That's just during this one pandemic. If you look at the larger timeline it's far worse than that. So if anything peoples' reactions are pretty mild inyuekit
    • grand scheme of things, we're mostly just calling them idiots and explaining why they're wrong, not even calling for these people to be censored or prosecuted.yuekit
  • colin_s1

    four years in and i finally got it. day four of just feeling like i'm constantly getting the shit kicked out of me, and only this morning did i get a positive test result.

    makes me wonder though - for my test result to "count" would i need to go into a hospital and have them take it? i see the charts and every one says that there's no uptick in cases but i've had two friends get it in the past month and one of them knew another 5.

    meanwhile the state is staying pretty silent and most of the press just cares about ukraine, so i dunno. sure sucks though.

    • My whole family and I are unjabbed and have not been sick once. Every single person I know who's had the vaccine has been sick since.Rendle
    • And I'm the dangerous conspiracy theorist. Please don't take any more Colin.Rendle
    • lol everyone I know got covid before the jab. Nobody I know got it after the jab. The only person I know who got covid recently was my anti vaxxx cousin_niko
    • i had it for 6-7 days, tested + after the second day, lost taste/smell on the 3rd day. it was weird as fuck :) my body worked it out relatively quicklysted
    • this was 2 months ago, I got the AZ 1-2 vaccine but nothing since last march.sted
    • oh and just a little addition: i got it from a fucking dentist who I found out later was struggling with long covid and reached into my mouth without gloves.sted
  • sted4

    Brain Dysfunction Related to COVID-19

    https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/…

    and

    Can COVID-19 alter your personality? Here's what brain research shows.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.c…

    discuss.

  • Rendle-6

    Huge non-covid related excess death number in the UK for 2022.

    'Experts are baffled' - LOL. Hmmm, I wonder what on earth it might be. These are the 'scientists' that you all follow so mindlessly.

    They just used the general population as guinea pigs for an experimental gene altering technology and these 'experts' are baffled at why lots of people are dying suddenly. Clown world.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/heal…

    • set's back!hans_glib
    • from now on i only follow Rendlecapn_ron
    • cool coolrobotinc
    • Cool story, bot. No one is baffled. article states they were avoidable, not mysterious deaths. The result of strained healthcare and lack of resources and beds.ETM
    • 'Experts are baffled' was never once quoted or written. Thanks for continuing to bot/troll to keep comments flowing.ETM
    • That's the only thing you're going to pick up on regarding this data? Fucking half-wits everywhere.Rendle
    • https://www.newscien…Rendle
    • https://www.bbc.co.u…Rendle
    • Not even a suggestion that MAYBE the experimental gene editing tech they injected into everyone MIGHT just MAYBE have something to do with it...Rendle
    • They don't even consider the possibility. That should tell you there's no fair discussion and they are actively covering it up.Rendle
    • But you're in psychosis, and you all get very obviously angry and emotionally unstable when someone challenges your brainwashing. Snap out of it.Rendle
    • Psychosis is a term used to describe when people lose some contact with reality. Common symptoms of psychosis are hearing voices or having strong beliefs...ETM
    • ...that are not shared by people within your community. For example, you may be worried that the government is trying to harm you and your loved ones.ETM
  • Nairn9

    ^
    See, this is why the shit that people that you spout is so untrustworthy.

    You link an article (from teh Mail no less) and add a quote that isn't in there, then ignore the quote that is there, all tyhe while ignoring the reason THE DAILY MAIL would want to highlight negatives of unionised strike action.

    'Experts are baffled' where is that in that article?

    Whereas you ignore the lede:

    'Our own analysis indicates that an estimated 300-500 patients are dying per week across the UK associated with long waiting times in emergency departments'

    • Also, your wee quip about how stupid it'd be to expect profit from DaFont the other day shows how completely inept you are at statistics. Fuckit, just maths.Nairn
    • If a site has 23M users and there's even a 1/1000 chance that a download could convert to profit from a company that's... well, 2,300 potential profits.Nairn
    • Unexplained excess death is unexplained excess death, regardless of whether it's the daily mail or the bbc reporting it. Unexplained means they don't know why..Rendle
    • do you know what baffled means? I think it said that in the link I clicked to get to the article. Why are you picking me up on that meaningless issue...Rendle
    • ... and not the topic at hand? Oh I said baffled, when maybe I should have said what? Confused? Unexplained?Rendle
    • Why don't we discuss the actual issue, you half wit?Rendle
    • Here's other sources if you can't understand content from certain sources.
      https://www.newscien…
      Rendle
    • and your favourite, I'm sure, the BBC
      https://www.bbc.co.u…
      Rendle
    • and if you think 1 in every 1000 users on a free font website are looking to pay for fonts then you truly are a half wit beyond measure.Rendle
    • I like how you're pulling me up on ANYTHING you possibly can, aside from the fact 50,000 people more than usual died in 2022 and they can't explain it.Rendle
    • 'potential profits' and companies would be expcted to pay. What was it you said about people resorting to insults rather than making a point, a while back?Nairn
    • It's not just the UK either... https://healthfeedba…Rendle
    • I'm not bothering addressing any of your points - Yuekit does a good job of that whilst highlighting your statistical ineptitude yet you still ignore it all.Nairn
    • The fact that the daily mail, the new scientist and the bbc don't even CONSIDER that MIGHT be the experimental injection they just rolled out, speaks volumes.Rendle
    • but you'd rather talk about which word I used to describe the fact that they don't know what's causing all the excess death, rather than the excess death. IdiotRendle
    • Sorry to butt in, but are you conflating 50,000 deaths to the vaccine? Out of 8 billion people that's not a great deal, but understandably useful to know why.Ianbolton
    • Sorry, my comment was for the below post, not nairns post. SozIanbolton
    • For a start, that's the UK alone, so it's 50k out of 67 million, not 8 billion. Secondly, I'm not conflating anything.Rendle
    • The articles you link to list several reasons as to why there are increased deaths. Stresses on the NHS, Population Age, Climate, Treatment waiting times. The..Morning_star
    • BBC article even includes a paragraph discounting the vaccine as an unlikely cause. You seem to have an unhelpful bias in your reasoning.Morning_star
    • Oh right, that's settled then.
      LOL
      Rendle
    • Lol dude your bbc article clearly states that it was way below the excess deaths during the pandemic. Stop cherry picking misinformation._niko
    • Hey set remember what you said. "When you start to throw insult, you lose the argument" lol you dimwit hypocritepango
    • cool coolrobotinc
    • Rendle, COVID is still a novel disease with a pathology that is mainly unknown. Most diseases have been around for millennia, but COVID is just 3 years old...ptrdo
    • ...COVID is a biphasic infection with significant coagulopathy and immune dysfunction. No one knows what happens after ten years or dozens of infections...ptrdo
    • ...What is known is that COVID makes chronic conditions acute, and facilitates the demise of people with comorbidities...ptrdo
    • ...People are dying every day with pathologies that are not fully understood, but some day could be found to have been exacerbated by COVID infection...ptrdo
    • ...It took thousands of years to determine that polio caused paralysis. It's taken 40 years to understand HIV. It could take decades to know what COVID has done.ptrdo
    • Vaccines are an emulation of human biology that's proven safe and effective for a generation. They are safer than aspirin. COVID is not. It's a killer.ptrdo
    • Everything I read about corona, from either side, is equally convincing. I have given updrgs
    • mRNA 'vaccines' are a brand new thing. They didn't test these vaccines for more than a year. Most vaccines go through ten years of testing before releaseRendle
    • You're saying that COVID is novel and we have no idea the affects, but untested, experimental, gene editing injections are definitely not causing illness & deatRendle
    • Is that genuinely what you're saying? A new variant of the flu is causing heart attacks and strokes but an experimental injection isn'tRendle
    • And anyone who suggests there might be a link gets ridiculed, attacked, banned and censored. But discussing the flu is fair game...Rendle
    • Basically it has to be exactly as the benevolent, caring, altruistic, kind and charitable government and big pharma tell you it is. Otherwise you're crazyRendle
    • And you can't see the insanity of that?Rendle
    • Coo.Nairn
    • That's pretty much what I thought.
      Sad times.
      Rendle
    • It's like trying to discuss Shakespeare with a dog. Clearly I'm the idiot for trying.Rendle
    • So deliciously un-self aware!
      ptrdo stood up and gave you the response you [clearly actually didn't] want and bless, you ridiculed. Sublime.
      Nairn
    • Coo-fucking-coo you stupid, stupid pigeon.Nairn
    • Rendle, vaccines did not “take 10 years” to test because that was required, but because that is the amount of time it took to gather sufficient data...ptrdo
    • ...COVID vaccines were developed in the midst of an active pandemic with exceptional prevalence. It was everywhere and data could be collected quickly and easily...ptrdo
    • ...mRNA employs a new methodology for i antigen, but the fundamentals are exactly the same as other vaccines—to trigger a perfectly natural human immune response...ptrdo
    • ...Look around you. Our return to relative normalcy is the result of billions of doses of vaccine. There is no other factor that could have made that happen...ptrdo
    • ...COVID is as infectious & deadly as it's ever been. In fact, Omicron is even more so than previous strains. Yet spread is now subdued, and this is significant.ptrdo
    • ...Polio vaccines may have been developed over “10 years,” but that was a relatively rare disease, and we have FAR more advanced know-how and technologies now.ptrdo
  • _niko11

    dude chill the fuck out, you're worried about 1 or 10 or 100,000 heart attacks vs 1 million confirmed dead from covid in the US alone?

    that number would have been 25-40 million without a vaccine of some sort.

    Yes Pfizer is evil, yes big Pharma is trying to kill us, yes the government is incompitent but seriously you're comparing goldfish to blue whales here.

    • Cumulatively the Vax will kill more. This is becoming more apparent as time passeszardoz
    • Your 40 million dead figure is unknowable.zardoz
    • zardoz, you're pretty fucking retardedcrazyprick
    • So your stance is 'yes big pharma and Pfizer are evil and trying to kill us, but I'm still going to promote their experimental gene altering injection'. I see.Rendle
    • 1 million dead from covid, lol. I think you mean a million deaths that also tested positive at the time of death using a bogus testRendle
    • Heart attacks, strokes, car accidents, shootings, all added to the covid numbers. You'll believe anything.Rendle
    • Heart attacks, strokes, car accidents all added to the vaccine numbers. you’ll believe anything. Also you’re 11._niko
    • No but what I'm saying is actually, genuinely the truth? Have you checked it out or is your default just deny, ridicule and hope you're right?Rendle
    • Rendle, patients admitted to hospital are routinely tested for COVID so proper precautions can be made to protect staff and other patients...ptrdo
    • ...But cause of death is far more complicated and is scrutinized by attendings, examiners, coroner, insurance, auditors, and family...ptrdo
    • ...Mortality of a cause (e/g COVID) is important to know as a matter of public safety, so accuracy in statistics is crucial to comprehending the threat...ptrdo
    • ...No one benefits from deceptive mortality figures. Even hospitals who are compensated would risk fraud, lawsuit, and penalty. Each signatory risks their career.ptrdo
    • All people that died within 30 days of a positive test are added to the covid death numbers. This is not conspiracy, this is easily verifiable reality.Rendle
    • Rendle, who benefits from deaths falsely attributed to COVID? A death certificate is a legal document. Do you understand what that means?ptrdo
    • Who benefits? Lockdowns caused the greatest wealth transfer in history. Covid vaccines made the pharma companies billions. Who benefits? LOLRendle
    • There's plenty of evidence and testimony that hospitals were incentivised to add c-19 as cause of death. There are countless cases of people dying of...Rendle
    • ...car accidents, knife wounds, strokes, heart attacks but having c-19 as cause of death on the death certificate. The CDC admitted...Rendle
    • ...'it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'. You're ignorant. I know. Don't assume I am.Rendle
    • You try to insult me by asking if I know what legal means, as if laws aren't broken and corruption doesn't exist... and have no concept of how simple you sound.Rendle
    • Stealing is against the law. Do you understand what that means? Therefore stealing surely cannot exist.Rendle
    • You're evidently woefully ignorant of the corruption surrounding healthcare and pharmaceuticals. There's no profit in curing people.Rendle
    • By your logic there can't be any corruption because that would mean laws are broken. And you understand what a legal document is.Rendle
  • Rendle-2

    Pfizer holds the record for the largest criminal fine in history... for illegally promoting toxic drugs, and people like yuekit stuck in psychosis thinks these little small time doctors with nothing to gain, and their reputation to lose, reporting the dangers of the vaccine... are they ones lying, and multi-billion dollar big pharma who hold criminal fines for lying, and tried to suppress the release of the vaccine data in court, are the ones telling the truth.

    It's truly beyond insanity.

    • But they do it for the YouTube views!Gnash
    • You can't even say the word vaccine injury without being censored/shadow bannedRendle
    • Is, lab-leak, still a no-no?Gnash
    • Personally I think that's something they want people to believe because it still justified vaccines and lockdownsRendle
    • JustifiesRendle
    • who is good in this story? its really-really hard to find anything from you what isn't about that the entire world conspired to kill as many as possible :Dsted
    • You're right I'm sorry guys, because they paid a fine one time that means every medication will kill you.yuekit
    • Personally I would never recommend taking any drugs at all, except for the ones sold on Joe Rogan's dropshipping site. You can't trust the establishment,yuekit
    • You only prove yourself to be a fool when your only defense is to ridicule, as others have said.Rendle
    • The point is that the corporation with the biggest criminal fine in history, for lying, is not a trustworthy corporation. Surely you don't fail to understa thatRendle
    • You're taking the word of the biggest liars on earth, over people that haven't been proven to lie. And you don't see the problem even with that alone. InsanityRendle
    • Pfizer have been proven in the court of law to be untrustworthy, to the tune of the biggest fine in history, and you're here defending their word.Rendle
    • You don't see a problem with that, no?Rendle
    • This time they must be being truthful and transparent, right? Even though they already admitted they didn't test for transmission...Rendle
    • ... and they've already tried to hide the results of their other tests for 75 years. And you still trust them? And you don't have an incline of your insanity?Rendle
    • So much so that you're happy to broadcast your allegiance to this proven corrupt corporation online for all to see? Without even questioning yourselfRendle
    • And you think you're the rational, intelligent, critically thinking one here? Genuinely?Rendle
    • It's like allowing a person charged for pedophilia to baby sit your kids and then calling people crazy when they suggest you research them and their history firRendle
    • And then saying 'oh they've been charged once, that must mean that every time they're going to molest my child' as a form of ridiculeRendle
    • And genuinely not realising how utterly moronic you sound.Rendle
    • And suggesting it's foolish to assume that maybe they might just do it again. That's your stance?Rendle
    • lol...I appreciate your dedication to this bit. But think about this, who was it that issued Pfizer with the largest fine in the history of the world?yuekit
    • Was it maybe the US government? But I thought they were supposed to be totally controlled by the drug companies...yuekit
    • Something about this story doesn't add up. But I already told you, I don't take corporate drugs, only anti-establishment drugs.yuekit
    • Every disease can be treated by some combination of Alpha Brain, steroids, magic mushrooms and bulletproof coffee.yuekit
    • The story is 100% true, you can check for yourself. I never said anything about big pharma being controlled by the government...Rendle
    • So now there's an irrefutable piece of evidence against your belief system, you now try to divert to another theory I never even mentioned?Rendle
    • Yes, yes I did. I assumed that was what everyone who thinks the vaccine is killing people believes.yuekit
    • So why do you reckon governments didn't halt the Pfizer vaccine, like they did with the AstraZeneca vaccine when there were reports of potential heart issues?yuekit
    • The whole point was to put people off the AZ vaccine so they would take the mRNA one. The AZ one was the only 'real' vaccineRendle
    • Although they didn't use sars-cov-2 in it, they used an adenovirus getting a monkey. Makes perfect sense right..Rendle
    • From a monkey*Rendle
    • Why would you rather have a virus injected into you vs just RNA? The RNA is actually more of a "light touch" approach, you'd think people skeptical of vaccinesyuekit
    • would prefer this.yuekit
    • I didn't say I'd rather have that injected into me wtf? I don't want EITHER. My point was that why didn't they use sars-cov-2 ina vaccine targeting sars-cov-2?Rendle
    • Why would they use some random adenovirus from a monkey? Instead of covid-19...? Because it's completely made up, that's why. It's just the flu.Rendle
    • If you think being genetically modified, irreversibly, is a light touch, then you really are, truly, truly lost. I knew you were already but... my god.Rendle
    • The Chinese and Indian vaccines are made using SARS-CoV-2 virus. So does that disprove your theory?yuekit
  • utopian2

  • utopian4

    China on Saturday reported nearly 60,000 deaths in people who had COVID-19 since early December.

    https://apnews.com/article/healt…

    • It's actually very concerning. When all this shit was starting, Seattle was predicted to and turned out to be a vector city due to CNY travel, and it was.garbage
    • There's almost a billion new cases in China, and CNY is right around the corner. So buckle up.garbage
    • According to the 2019 United Nations World Population Prospects report, approximately 27,765 people die every day in Chinaimbecile
    • Lots of smokers, the pollution... maybe makes them more susceptible to die?zardoz
    • Anyhow, stats out of China cannot be trusted.zardoz
    • Imagine believing anything that comes out of China. Remember at the beginning when they showed us videos of people dropping dead on the street?Rendle
    • And then that wasn't replicated anywhere else for the entire duration of the pandemic?Rendle
    • The numbers say people that died with covid, not of. If the tests are bogus and hundreds of thousand of people die every month in China. Your point is what?Rendle
    • 55k of the 60k died of other causes after simply testing positive for covid, and we know that most people that test positive are perfectly healthy... wake the fRendle
    • Fuck up.Rendle
    • Of you died of a heart attack but tested positive for the flu beforehand, did you die of the flu?Rendle
    • The flu wouldn't even be worth mentioning. Unless it was for political gain, of course. If you haven't figured this out yet, you are in the dumbest group on earRendle
    • The exact people they want to get rid of. It's working perfectly.Rendle
    • So I'm guessing you're familiar with current ED modeling and how it should be a little scary if the CCP is letting out the numbers they are?garbage
    • The P-score margin is pretty huge. It's not as simple as you're trying to make it, or misunderstand it.garbage
    • You're saying that you just openly believe data that a communist party puts out? Just like that, without question. Is that correct?Rendle
    • Even if it's all 100% true, it's right there in the article above, 55k of the 60k cited did not die of COVID. They tested positive when they died.Rendle
    • "China has counted only deaths from pneumonia or respiratory failure in its official COVID-19 death toll, a narrow definition that excludes many deaths..."robotinc
    • "...that would be attributed to COVID-19 in much of the world" from the same article. Nice cherry pickingrobotinc
    • Ok great, that's like attributing car accidents to cancer death rates.Rendle
    • Except its not. You're in over your head, Deuces.garbage
    • How many people died of pneumonia and respiratory disease before 2019? You think adding every single one to covid numbers makes for a fair representation? LolRendle
    • You lot have lost the plotRendle
    • 50k a year die of pneumonia. That's 50k, not including respiratory failure, they died every year, on average, before covid even existedRendle
    • And you think adding those 50k deaths to covid death rates gives us a fair idea of how many people are dying because of COVID. Fucking lolRendle
    • You've already shown that you don't get basic science, so just know I didn't read your spew, just saw that it happened.garbage
    • Tell me exactly which science you're talking about? Is all science correct? As long as it's called science? Explain yourself...Rendle
    • Or is it only the science that bolsters your belief system?Rendle
    • This is hilarious. Literally laid out basic keywords and you couldn't look it up? Are you ancient and Ask Jeeves is giving you problems again?garbage
    • I don't feel the need to explain myself to a stubborn geezer with gacked up ears. Do another screed; I'll respond with puppy pics.garbage
    • You think adding around 100k deaths from pneumonia and respiratory disease, that happen every year pre covid, to covid death numbers is science?Rendle
    • and because I'm pointing out that that doesn't give a fair idea of how many people actually died because of covid, you think I'm not understanding science? LOLRendle
    • The way that you ignore facts is the way I ignored everything you typed. Sorry I triggered you, go have a slice of orange. You're stubborn and unreachable.garbage
    • And that's alright. I don't have to know you, so just shut the fuck up about how you can't understand things for your own sake. It's embarrassing.garbage
  • yuekit4

    And look at this. The same teevee channel that told you to invade Iraq...literally the same one...is now telling you NOT to take the vaccine. They're even recruiting celebrities to tell you that, you naive fools.




    • https://www.qbn.com/…palimpsest
    • Nicki Minaj? C'mon... LOLOBBTKN
    • What Covid does to us.palimpsest
    • Fox has changed ownership since Iraq.zardoz
    • @zardoz Who would you say owns it then, in your opinion?yuekit
    • lol like the liberal media haven't been silent about the millions of innocent people killed in the middle eastRendle
    • They'll ram Ukraine down your throats because it suits them politically, but not a word about millions of innocent lives taken by the US is the middle eastRendle
    • Hero of the Stupidutopian
    • Explain exactly how I'm wrong...Rendle
    • The point is there are people, governments, entire TV networks invested in pushing the anti-vax narrative. And these people don't have good motives.yuekit
    • The actual doctors and scientists, if you look at what the majority is saying, don't at all believe the vaccines are killing large numbers of people.yuekit
    • Of course they don't because they'll be fired and excommunicated if they even suggest it MIGHT be killing people.Rendle
  • BuddhaHat3

    • One of 500, on average still dying everyday in the US?PhanLo
    • Even if you believe the bogus tests, which you'd have to be a moron too because the inventor told us they don't work. That's 0.0001 of the population.Rendle
    • 0.0001%Rendle
    • Over a 100,000 people died every year of the flu in the US before all this propaganda started.Rendle
    • Were you worried about the flu before they told you to be? Were you wearing masks and social distancing before they told you to? lolRendle
    • big pharma - sorry, this hasn't been posted here yet.sted
    • Birds aren't real!utopian
    • Ridicule is not an argument lolRendle
    • Cool coolrobotinc
    • Sure, he might have died from covid but at least he didn’t get a heart attack from the vaxx! Checkmate Pfizer!_niko
    • Pure blood, huh? Rest in pisscrazyprick
    • that neanderthaler had his chance but was too dumb to comprehend what to do during a pandemic ....dumbs gonna dumb C'est la vieneverscared
    • Weird... Why is this 'news', and when people dying of covid who have gotten their vaxx isn't 'news'?Elwin74
    • I think it's something like 20 to 1 those who are dying who have had the vax vs not had the vax. But these retards don't want to talk about factsRendle
    • lol.. using 'facts' and 'retard' in the same sentence...hydro74
    • "20 to 1". Use your brain, just for one second, and you'd understand basic math like percentages and ratios.inteliboy
    • "inventor told us they don't work" this has been scrutinised and debunked time and time again.inteliboy
    • fuck me it's really amazing how people read some bullshit nugget of information and decide to base their worldview on itinteliboy
    • "worried about the flu". actually yes, people are worried about the flu. Especially those with newborns or around old people. Thats why there is a Flu shot.inteliboy
    • "wearing masks and social distancing". Also yes, in many countries this is the norm during the cold/flu season, especially if you are under the weather.inteliboy
    • Oh nice! Rest In Piss.garbage
    • I like turtlesYakuZoku
    • I too, like turtles.autoflavour
    • For clarity, he was one of the main organizers for Mt Baker Proud Boys, and they were usually the ones that showed up to wreck shit in Seattle.garbage
    • He's a self-described "Trumpazi", because he's an actual Nazi. Oh shit, I meant was, because he's dead. Good riddance to bad rubbish.garbage
    • "Ridicule is not an argument lol"
      take your own advise LOL
      pango
    • I still like turtlessted
  • yuekit4

    One question it seem like no one tried to answer after all this debate...how many people actually died from the vaccines?

    Last week a study came out looking at every potential vaccine-related death in the country of Qatar. They found that the number with high probability of relationship to SARS-CoV-2 vaccination is 0.34 per 100,000 vaccinations.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/…

    If you project that onto the total vaccinated population of USA, it means just under 900 people died from the vaccines in the entire country.

    This is a rough estimate of course and 900 deaths isn't nothing but is it worth all this controversy? That's less than the number of people who died in a single day from COVID on nearly every day of the pandemic during 2020-2021.

    The number killed by people not being vaccinated meanwhile, is estimated at nearly 319,000...around a third of the entire death toll of USA.

    https://globalepidemics.org/2022…

    • Vaccine or no vaccine not enough people are dying.palimpsest
    • ˄ it's always been about thatsted
    • Some people say all the death was due to the vacccine so there’s no reasoning with some folksmonospaced
    • Pro-vac: Too many COVID deaths, not enough vaccine deaths.
      Anti-vac: Not enough COVID deaths, too many vaccine deaths.
      palimpsest
    • Pre-Vac: Not enough deaths.sted
    • math isn't anti-vaxxers' strong suit._niko
    • this is chimp and everyone else's argument: Food allergies cause x amount of side effect and x amount of deaths per year so you're a moron if you eat food._niko
    • When the vaxx is proven to be harmless for you, you can always get a vaxx later. But, if the vaxx is proven to be bad, you never can get unvaxxed... Never!Elwin74
    • or Big food, I guess, just grow your own kale or raise your own chickens man. Oh and liver just eat raw liver, you'll be fine._niko
    • You'll never convince some people but I think the Qatari scientists have a point when they say putting an actual number on the vaccine deaths is important.yuekit
    • When the government keeps repeating shit like "the vaccines are safe and effective...Trust The Science™" the natural reaction of more paranoid people mayyuekit
    • be to jump out of the nearest window. In reality the numbers seem to be quite low, definitely not worth the hysteria you see on social media.yuekit
    • https://www.reuters.…yuekit
    • ^ According to this, things that are riskier than getting vaccinated w/mRNA vaccine include: riding a bike, swimming and taking aspirin.yuekit
    • The food allergies analogies is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. Food allergies are the vaccine and food is the vaccine as well?
      Good times!
      palimpsest
    • I do appreciate the effort and the entertainement value!palimpsest
    • You can have a look at VAERS or British yellow book to see the thousands of deaths reported. Why aren't the media reporting that?Rendle
    • After reporting every single 'covid death'. Those that that haven't figured out what's going on yet are truly unfathomable. Psychosis is a hell of a thingRendle
    • By the way they estimate that less than 5% of deaths and injuries are reported to VAERS etcRendle
    • The fact is we don't know the true number because it's being suppressedRendle
    • More athletes have dropped dead in the past two years than the last 40 combined. The data is out there.Rendle
    • "The fact is we don't know the true number because it's being suppressed" but you are one of the chosen one who gets up to date numbers projected into his brainsted
    • PS the food analogy is retarded. This is an experimental, irreversible, gene altering therapy, not a bacon sandwich.Rendle
    • ps you don't know what "therapy" means or even "gene altering". lol fucking muppet.sted
    • experimental, -> gets your attention
      irreversible, -> gets you scared
      gene altering therapy, -> makes it look like it's something smart.
      sted
    • They didn't test it. That's experimental. It's gene editing technology. Which is irreversible. What about any of this don't you understand exactly?Rendle
    • Why do you feel the need to insult me? Your like these new wave of liberal freaks that take feelings over facts.Rendle
    • You're*Rendle
    • where are those facts exactly? because all we see from you is throwing around buzzwords and using argument formulas what puts you into the dumbfuck category.sted
    • I have no problem with that, you're just another idiot talking nonsense, and it's good that it was revealed so soon.sted
    • That's nice that you think I'm an idiot. I've mentioned VAERS and yellow book and I've posted a video with the numbers of people that died suddenlyRendle
    • If you won't look then I can't help you.Rendle
    • Anyone can enter anything into VAERS, there's no verification at all. You could sit there all day and enter fake vaccine related illnesses (and this probablyyuekit
    • has happened considering how obsessed some people are with this shit lol). Every time there's a real study they're unable to find these mass vaccine deaths.yuekit
    • What is this weird world where you think it's more likely people are faking vaccine injury than it is big pharma hiding it? I mean, seriously?Rendle
    • It's the equivalent of an online poll. It gives you a vague idea but isn't scientific and can easily be gamed.yuekit
    • And if people were really dying from the vaccines in large numbers, why didn't it show up in the study I posted here?yuekit
    • In this study they looked at every single possible vaccine-related death in the country. Almost everyone took mRNA vaccines.yuekit
    • Why didn't evidence that goes against multi billion dollar industries showing up in mainstream sources? You're not serious... SurelyRendle
    • This is scientists carrying out a study that addresses exactly what people said they are concerned about with the vaccines.yuekit
    • They didn't find zero deaths, but a very small number out of the millions of doses given. At some point I think you have to have faith that, if something isyuekit
    • true, scientists somewhere in the world will be able to figure it out. One government could censor information but it's unlikely to be censored everywhere.yuekit
    • ˄ not just governments, private labs too
      *small pharma lol :D
      sted
    • Many people seem to want to prove the vaccines are killing lots of people so why hasn't anyone been able to do it? Anyone should be able to analyze theyuekit
    • deaths in countries around the world, draw a correlation with when vaccines were administered...but there's no study like this I've seen.yuekit
  • yuekit3

    Anyway as you can see here it's no longer anti-establishment to be an anti-vaxxer. Everywhere you go people are repeating this shit...the world's second richest man is saying it, politicians are saying it, the most popular news channel is broadcasting it. The fact that they keep saying you can't talk about it, is just another excuse to keep talking about it.





    • Wake Up Sheeple!utopian
    • "You can't talk about it" is just classic reverse psychology. Can't believe some of you fell for that.yuekit
    • "There's a global conspiracy, it's all a big coverup" "Oh really how you reckon that" "The bloke on the teevee told me" "..."yuekit
    • "Everywhere you go people are repeating this shit.." Do you have any suggestions for someone to listen to (with proven credibility) that addresses their claims?Morning_star
    • @Morning_star Address which claim? What you find with conspiracy theories is that it's a constantly moving target.yuekit
    • The latest is this "died suddenly" hysteria, a few months ago they'd be talking about something else. None of the things they claim ever get proven, butyuekit
    • collectively the barrage of stories and allegations create the impression in peoples' minds there must be something to it.yuekit
    • Anyway, David Gorski has written a lot about this topic
      https://sciencebased…
      yuekit
    • Here's a thread from a doctor addressing whether vaccines are causing sudden death
      https://twitter.com/…
      yuekit
    • lol @yuekit i was just reading that the other daysted
  • PhanLo5

  • Nairn8

    • So you're the guy that walks into an intelligent debate and does a fart joke. Noted.Rendle
    • I'm building a roster of personalities not worth talking toRendle
    • Start with yourself.Continuity
    • I'm not sure your joke works. Start with not talking to myself? I assume you're of the ilk that either it's as we're being told or it's not worth discussing?Rendle
    • Either it's 100% as the entities with billions to make in profit are telling us? Or it's just idiotic conspiracy? That's your stance huh?Rendle
    • Coo.Nairn
    • Imagine walking into a debate and showing a pigeon image,, walking off, and then thinking you're anything but an idiot. Good luckRendle
    • I knew there were idiots here but the fact you're so readily willing to broadcast that still comes as a surpriseRendle
    • Coo, Coo.Nairn
    • Birds aren't real.palimpsest
    • ^ But the shit we're all trodding in from this particular pigeon is!Continuity
    • Two-finger salute.palimpsest
    • Why is set using alt account and not 'set'?
      It's like walking out a bar and return with a wig and glue on mustache thinking no one noticed....
      pango
    • https://www.qbn.com/…
      Das why.
      palimpsest
    • lol. I haven't had access to my set account for 4 or 5 years. I changed the password on my hench account so I'd stop...Rendle
    • ... Logging in and trying to discuss Shakespeare with parrots, but I still had this account, so here I am...Rendle
    • Trying to explain to a cat how the lottery works.Rendle
    • I guess I'm the idiot for tryingRendle
    • Rendle
    • You haven't had access to your set account because you asked for it to be deleted.palimpsest
    • Yes many years ago, what's your point?Rendle
    • It's like I'm talking to actual babiesRendle
    • Coo.Nairn
    • look at the stupid running into the slap, now he is even started questioning that i can read:
      https://www.qbn.com/…
      sted
    • My point is that reason you haven't had access to you set account is that you asked for it to be deleted. There was no access to be had.palimpsest
    • If it's deleted, I don't have access. Are you autistic?Rendle
    • And here's the twist:
      Because there was no account.
      palimpsest
    • Does a homeless man sleep on the street because he doesn't have access to his house?palimpsest
    • Or is he simply homeless?
      Coo.
      palimpsest
    • seem like the homeless has all the access to his house. just gotta put on a wig and moustache.pango
    • oh wait my bad.
      Cooo
      pango
    • The homeless moustache whatRendle
    • yeepango
  • palimpsest1

    Have any of you vaccinated folk taken a 23andMe test post vaccine? We're you able to get any results?

  • palimpsest6

    • So far palimpset has shown himself to be impartial. Sted and pango revealed themselves to be not worth talking to...Rendle
    • ... And yuekit, paradigm wise, has proven himself to be my equal and diametrically opposing opposite in this realm of beliefs and opinions. I respect it. Sort oRendle
    • Ideast wants to get me banned as a spammer... lolRendle
    • Nairn opposes all reason and English tradition in order to spite meRendle
    • We all should have a pint, I'm sure we'd get on just grand.Rendle
    • Palimpset is impartial but curious. Sort of bi-curious you could say.Rendle
    • Continuity came in with a slap, just to let us know he's been readingRendle
    • And if I haven't mentioned you then clearly you have no impact on anything so have a word with yourselfRendle
    • Who's coming for a pintRendle
    • That''s really good palimpsest, I dig the little critter ❤PhanLo
  • rootlock-3
    • best of CNN.
      https://www.cdc.gov/…
      sted
    • article is missing sentences like:
      "Often these safety systems detect signals that could be due to factors other than the vaccine itself."
      sted
    • Furthermore, it is important to note that, to date, no other safety systems have shown a similar signal and multiple subsequent analyses have not validated thissted
    • They shoved every covid death down your throat but when people die from the vaccine they're silent, and you don't think that's suspicious in any way?Rendle