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  • shapesalad0

    FDA proposes switching to annual coronavirus vaccine, mimicking flu model:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/h…

    • fluvid-19.commonospaced
    • Apparently people aren't dying fast enough...Elwin74
    • “fluvid” lol. If they have the real scoop, then why do they need to go so over the top with the soundtrack? Shouldn't it be enough to prove their case soberly...ptrdo
    • ...FWIW, flu “disappeared” bc it's not very infectious—COVID is SIX TIMES worse. So, when we distanced and wore masks, that slowed COVID down but obliterated flu.ptrdo
  • zardoz0

    *sound of penny dropping*

    Dilbert guy gets it

    • Lots of relatives got the jag, so it doesnt *feel* like any kind of victory.zardoz
    • the but here is that they got it in some form and survived without any long term issues.
      that's a huge but.
      sted
    • This guy's premise is incorrect. Anti-vaxxers are NOT “winners” because the purpose of vaccines is NOT to protect the recipient but to suppress the spread...ptrdo
    • ...It takes any human a few weeks to figure out COVID and eliminate it. Unvaxxed people are infectious most of that time, spreading to a half-dozen others...ptrdo
    • ...But vaxxed people have a prebuilt defense, which quickens the immune response, shortening the course of illness and thereby the potential for infectiousness...ptrdo
    • ...An unvaxxed person who spreads COVID to 6, who each spread to 6 = 36, then they each spread to 6 more = 216 x 6 = 1296, on and on...ptrdo
    • ...But a vaxxed person may spread COVID to only 3, who each spread to 3 = 9, then they each spread to 3 more = 27 x 3 = 81, on and on. MUCH fewer...ptrdo
    • ...All this is not to mention that so-called “natural” immunity is limited to ONLY the particular strain encountered and is commensurate to degree of infection...ptrdo
    • ...Vaccines are an abstraction that anticipates mutation and forces a body to pay attention rather than how a body barely takes note of an asymptomatic infection...ptrdo
    • ...It's math, really. The quicker people get well, the less virus they'll spread, and the less virus, the fewer infected—You can't catch what's not going around...ptrdo
    • ...Watch this video instead. Then note how Omicron is R₀≈9.5, which is how it spread from Botswana to the world in a matter of weeks. https://youtu.be/PAC…ptrdo
    • ...Vaccines can slow that down. So-called “natural” immunity cannot. When the unvaxxed get the next strain, their immunity is too late—they've already spread it.ptrdo
    • ...Flu is R₀ ≈1.5, Common cold is R₀ ≈3, Omicron is R₀ ≈9.5 (3x as infectious as a cold, 6x the flu).

      https://en.wikipedia…
      ptrdo
    • The life we are enjoying today, one where it's almost as if COVID never existed is the direct benefit of the vaccine.ShenanigansTV
    • "they are the winners
      (but ignore those who died)
      robotinc
    • https://health.cleve…Elwin74
    • Next week: Garfield comes out as an anti-vaxxeryuekit
    • I dunno. Everyone I know had a fuck all time with it. Vax or no vax. In families, one person would go down the others drinking soda on the deck. Weird deal.dibec
    • @dibec yeah, 100% agree. some shake it off with a temporary loss of smell and taste and a little unusual breathing, others get fucked 100%, some age 20 in 2ysted
    • @dibec Yes, everybody deals with COVID differently, but what you can't know is how a vaxxed person would have fared if they were not vaxxed...ptrdo
    • ...If a vaxxed person still got COVID and got it bad, then it's certain that they would have been even sicker had they not been vaccinated. But you won't know...ptrdo
    • ...Also, if an unvaxxed person gets COVID and barely feels sick, they CAN still spread it. But if they were vaxxed, they would be infectious for a shorter period.ptrdo
  • PhanLo11

    • u got the groove our u don´tneverscared
    • lolutopian
    • they "never got it" cause they never testedKrassy
    • flollWordsworth
    • Still a covid virgin! lolkaiyohtee
    • +1grafician
    • +2MrT
    • ++sted
    • +1ApeRobot
    • @Krassy
      I got tested multiple times and still unvaxxed to this day.
      Haters gonna hate. ;-)
      ApeRobot
    • Now I wanna know where this gif is from :)Wordsworth
    • *sigh—been testing every 2-3weeks if not weekly so I can visit the inlaws. I'm vaxxed / boostered multiple times and I'm still finishing my 2nd bout of COVID.PonyBoy
    • @ApeRobot you got tested when you weren't infected , but you didn't test when you were infected ;-)Krassy
    • yep, that's me. although to be fair I think I might be a novid.. I tongue kissed my infected wife numerous times and slept every night next to her ..no diceautoflavour
  • shapesalad-2

    @ptrdo

    • @Rendleshapesalad
    • @ whoever thinks this thing didn't come from a lab. He neglects to mention how the wuhan Lab was joint venture with French scientists, who pulled out and couldshapesalad
    • not sign off on the completion of the lab as it was so poorly built and ran by the chinese.shapesalad
    • * poorly ran.shapesalad
    • This guy is also a well-known climate change denier who's heavily invested in the coal industry.yuekit
    • An article he wrote about a decade ago...
      https://archive.is/M…
      yuekit
    • He also thought AIDS came from a lab
      https://documents.uo…
      yuekit
    • Of course it's possible SARS-2 came from a lab somehow but I think it's important to check the background of these people presenting themselves as experts,yuekit
    • because on such a complex topic like this, they can easily misrepresent or leave stuff out (and usually do), leaving you with the wrong impression.yuekit
    • The entire genome of the ancestral strain is known and would have telltale evidence of manipulation. But the thing is, it doesn’t even matter.ptrdo
    • SARS-1 started at an animal market. SARS-2 also started...at an animal market, selling the same species that were found to be carriers of SARS-1.yuekit
    • They even traced samples of the virus to a specific animal cage at the market. The lab was a 30 minute drive away on the other side of the city.yuekit
    • But because China never provided samples of the actual animals (they officially deny they were sold there), people concluded it didn't come from animals andyuekit
    • started coming up with the alternative theory it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. When there's a much simpler coverup staring everyone in the face.yuekit
    • You know, if Chinese wet markets are anything like the ones I saw in Vietnam, they are breathtakingly unsanitary affairs.Continuity
    • And they're full of things we should be eating. Bats aren't good eatin'. So, it makes all the sense in the world to me that this thing started in a wet market.Continuity
    • Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.Continuity
    • *shouldn't be eatingContinuity
    • These practices were supposed to be outlawed in China after SARS-1, but it continued in Wuhan in the exact neighborhood where the pandemicyuekit
    • seems to have started in late 2019. And this could only have happened with the involvement of the CCP...yuekit
    • This reporter was in China at the time and actually went to Wuhan to investigate
      https://twitter.com/…
      yuekit
    • He uncovered connections between the market owners and organized crime, and even with Xi Jinping's family. The CCP began harassing him and he left China.yuekit
    • @yuekit Why do you believe the CCP?Morning_star
    • @Morning_star, I don't think yuekit believes the CCP at all. Quite the contrary. The CCP harassed the reporter until he fucked off.Continuity
    • Which do you think is better for the CCP: lab leak or market source?Morning_star
    • Which do think is better for Western Governments: lab leak or market source?Morning_star
    • Neither. This really is — in my opinion — the product of some very stupid people, eating stuff they shouldn't be eating, and selling it in the most unsanitaryContinuity
    • ... conditions imaginable. China has nothing to gain by creating this virus intentionally. Their own people died of it in droves. Conversely, the Weast hasn'tContinuity
    • ... got much to gain (politically) from this disease either.Continuity
    • Anyway, the fact is *if* China created this virus intentionally, it could reasonably and rightly be seen as an act of war by the West.Continuity
    • But the US's own intelligence services haven't found any reason to believe the lab story until now, and we're three years into the business.Continuity
    • And despite the CCP's recent posturing, I highly doubt China is in much of a mood to get into a shooting war with anyone in the last few years.Continuity
    • @Morning_star Which one is worse, I think it would depend on the details of what happened. But what gets overlooked is that the animal industry in China isyuekit
    • worth a lot of money -- $74 billion according to this.
      https://multimedia.s…
      yuekit
    • If the origin had to do with fur farming or traditional Chinese medicine, I do actually think they would prefer the lab explanation.yuekit
    • Particularly since the lab leak speculation seems to have changed focus now, away from China and towards the USA.yuekit
    • And here you can see Chinese state media is promoting some of this stuff...
      https://twitter.com/…
      yuekit
    • @continuity & Yeukit, The political impact of 'lab-leak' is insanely negative for both the Chinese and US/(western) governments. Wet market origins, even...Morning_star
    • ...though no animals ever tested positive for Covid, are incredibly convenient.Morning_star
    • Morning_star just like with the anti-vax stuff you have to look past the popular impressions that are out there. Yes if there was a lab leak and if it involvedyuekit
    • both China and USA governments, it would be bad for them. But do you think the US is currently covering this up? Why hasn't anyone leaked this info in the pastyuekit
    • three years? There's a lot about this narrative that doesn't add up.yuekit
    • There's a lot about both narratives that doesn't add up. The fact that CCP controlled the data is a huge one.Morning_star
    • What doesn't add up about the narrative it came from the wildlife trade? There are things that are unknown but nothing that can't be explained.yuekit
    • @yeukit, the GI tract is a cauldron of acid—SARS-CoV-2 can't live there, so eating bats didn't spread this. Maybe the live breath, if you sucked-up to the cage...ptrdo
    • ...But what was traced to a wet market was the first KNOWN case. This virus is crazy infectious and most often asymptomatic—it could've been spreading for months...ptrdo
    • ...COVID takes a week to incubate post-exposure, another to put someone in hospital, and then took time to diagnose. Meanwhile, one infection could've made 1000s...ptrdo
    • ...COVID was in the US for a month before verified cases were found in hospital. At the time, it was barely detectable from pneumonia. By then, it was everywhere.ptrdo
    • The most likely scenario is that it spread from a bat to another animal and then to humans.yuekit
    • https://twitter.com/…yuekit
    • ^ Looking at an image like that you can see pretty easily how this could happen. Animals like mink are raised on farms with dozens or hundreds packed into theyuekit
    • same building. They come into contact with bats or other animals, and the virus spreads quickly among the farmed animals, mutating to be better adapted toyuekit
    • this type of animal -- which happens to easily spread diseases to humans.yuekit
    • #lableakftwGnash
    • No need to explain why right? It just is :)yuekit
    • I'm not ruling it out. Maybe the new Republican Congress will come up with some info that somehow neither the Trump admin or the Biden admin did.yuekit
    • It's all in the hands of Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene at this pointyuekit
    • ^^ sigh.

      COVID is not an American disease, and our feckless politicial posturings are unlikely to even acknowledge the facts when they are known.
      ptrdo
  • oey_oey1

    I wish/hope this thread gets deleted soon.

    • Here's a little tip to help you sleep better at night... Don't read this thread...Rendle
    • I don't read it.oey_oey
    • I find it weird many already forgot about it, acting business as usual even if they had relatives killed by covid

      Oh well
      grafician
    • I just wish it's over soon and we can put that behind our backs. we don't need to forget what happened. I just wish we can move on one day.oey_oey
    • Delete culturecrazyprick
    • What year is it?YakuZoku
    • I think it is ending, which makes it weird people are choosing now to go apeshit over the vaccinesyuekit
  • inteliboy0

    What happened to 5G causing coronavirus? Did set fall victim to the 5G's?

    Or they all moved onto vaccine conspiracies?

  • neverscared-1


    • https://www.thelance…neverscared
    • These are horrible infographics.palimpsest
    • I'm with you palimpsest, it's impossible to display the information in a more confusing way... A messOBBTKN
    • Basically the grey lines show who actually died, the blue part is who would have died without vaccines.yuekit
    • I understand what they are trying to say, they are still horrible.palimpsest
    • And this is is coming from someone who intentionally makes obtuse infographics for a niche public.palimpsest
    • lolyuekit
  • ptrdo5

    I hear that COVID came from a lab, but it's also a hoax. So, it is, and it isn't. It's the flu, basically, but the same as a cold. It's media hype but also a global cabal. The only people who died of COVID were going to die anyway, but the numbers are inflated, so people died but they didn't. Also, vaccines are poison, but they don't work either, except whenever somebody dies suddenly or when vaccinated people spread the virus. Natural immunity is 27 times better—not 26, not 28, exactly 27. Says so right here on this Instagram of a Facebook post of a Tweet of a screen capture. Anyway, that's what I heard somewhere from somebody who said something or another. Can't remember exactly what they said, but it's totally true.

    This farce requires the impeccable, worldwide compliance of millions of people who have actually tested positive, and also their millions of friends and families, the next of kin of those millions who died, the nurses who cared for them, their doctors, pulmonologists, respiratory therapists, anesthesiologists, pathologists, the medical examiners and morticians, departments of health and vital records bureaus, insurance actuaries, lawyers for hospitals, lawyers for doctors, lawyers for victims, lawyers for lawyers, hospital administrators, lab technicians, pharmacists, pharmaceutical designers, pharmaceutical manufacturers, pharmaceutical suppliers and distributors, virologists, epidemiologists, mathematicians, statisticians, investigative journalists (scrapping for the scoop of the century), media corporations, media outlets, media conglomerates, legislators, policymakers, scientific journals, scientific peer reviewers, universities, independent labs, foundations, non-profit organizations, the general public, caseworkers, diplomats, ambassadors, politicians, representatives, senators, the President of the United States. They're all in on it, but it's also super-secret—no one knows.

    Or maybe, just maybe, a very real disease is very real.
    Occam's Razor. One should select the solution with the fewest assumptions.

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/f34e…

    • So what's your solution? Wear masks for the rest of our lives? Keep locking down and transferring wealth from the common people to the corporations?Rendle
    • Maybe never see our families again and stay indoors forever? Keep getting injected every 6 months for life?Rendle
    • What's the solution... ?Rendle
    • Vaccination, you cretin.Nairn
    • Wear a mask religiously until the day the TV stops telling you to? At which point forget about it entirely and start moaning about Ukraine situation? LolRendle
    • The solution to what?
      There is no virus. There's nothing to solve.
      palimpsest
    • Surely if everyone's been vaccinated by now then there should be nothing to worry about?Rendle
    • ...The first thing we should do is not reduce this to a false choice predicated on worst case scenarios. COVID is a reality. That's a good place to start.ptrdo
    • Set - You know that older people are recommended to have a Flu shot every year or so? Can you work out the logic behind that?Nairn
    • COVID is one of the most infectious viruses known, so it spreads quickly and perpetually. Immunity from infection and vaccine slow it down, but immunity wanes...ptrdo
    • What nairn said, you cuntcrazyprick
    • ...Also this virus mutates to escape our defenses, so times will come when it gets worse. When that happens, yes, masks will help, boosters too...ptrdo
    • Nairn, let's talk face to face and we'll see if you're brave enough to call me names.Rendle
    • ...No one knows what happens years from now, or after people have had dozens of infections. The prospects don't seem good, but we don't know yet...ptrdo
    • Don't give me a gay little response. Let's talk face to face...Rendle
    • lol, you short arse cretin. I'm as I am in real life as I am anywhere, including here. I'd gladly introduce your nose to my forehead if we met in person.Nairn
    • You little weak kneed soft handed cunts are only brave on the internetRendle
    • ...We quit Smallpox because it scars, and Polio because it crippled kids. Maybe we'll learn something COVID that will make us care enough to contain it. We'll seeptrdo
    • the fact you have to resort to that kind of ultimatum - after you've insulted so many here - shows how utterly facile and half-witted you are. You thick fuck.Nairn
    • I know you wouldn't dare to meet me. Let's do a live chat? I want to you to talk to me face to faceRendle
    • That's not entirely true. I just want you to be as brave in front of me as you are hiding behind here.Rendle
    • What, so that after you can fold your entire online persona and declare, farcically, "We'd all get along over a pint, I just know it!". No. We'd not. Cretin.Nairn
    • If you dare to insult a man online then you should be brave enough to do it to their face. You won't though, will you?Rendle
    • The difference between you and I is that I'd be brave enough to meet you for a pint and see if we'd get on. You wouldn't dare come anywhere near me. LolRendle
    • I genuinely think we'd all got on far better in person. You pull me up on that comment as if it was a horrible thing to say. I think it's trueRendle
    • I don't think you'd be quite so rude to me in person, though. In fact I'm sure.Rendle
    • Hey, tough guy. You sound like a faggy ass bitch. I know cunts like you, you're nothing but a fucking failurecrazyprick
    • ba... ba.. buttons!shapesalad
    • Even a blind dog can buttfuck you in the comments and all you can do is "cash me outside, howbow dah?" fucking hilariouscrazyprick
    • Crazyprick let's do a live chat, you me and Nairn.Rendle
    • Fuck off, faggotcrazyprick
    • Nairn and I have somewhat 'known' eachother for over 13 years, I like to think he knows I'm partially jesting and have a certain fondness towards himRendle
    • As for crazyprick I have no idea who the floof you are, but it's nice you want to swear at meRendle
    • That's the thing though - your entire personality and tone has changed over the past 'few' years, so I've no idea how to take you other than at face value.Nairn
    • You come on here with some frankly half-baked thinking then shit on anyone who disagrees with you as their being idiotic, then wonder why they'd be annoyed.Nairn
    • You were always a bit of an arse, as I too, but this new you is just something objectionable. Believe me when I say - I'd say to you to your face what I do hereNairn
    • I've said much worse to far taller people, right up in thei'grill. I don't give a fuck. If you've paid attention over the years, you'd know that.Nairn
    • lolRendle
    • I tried to be nice but you're just, such, a cunt.Rendle
    • lol. Right, pint?Nairn
    • You've said things right up in people's grill have you? LOLRendle
    • In. Their. Grill.Nairn
    • @ptrdo Yes the conspiracies people come up with all seem to require a level of planning and coordination that, if you look around, doesn't actually existyuekit
    • I've read that four times and my brain hurtsRendle
    • I think we should have a qbn London drinks. I've bought a canal boat so I'm in London half the week. Which cunt is game..?Rendle
    • If all hospitals and doctors treating COVID are involved in a coverup, the only thing more incredible than this being true would be that not a single person hasyuekit
    • Okay, putting asinde the whole cuntfuckery, a canal boat is pretty fucking sweetcrazyprick
    • lol see I knew we'd all get alongRendle
    • come forward to talk about it. Individual people can't even keep secrets very well much of the time, imagine this on a global scale.yuekit
    • “Three may keep a secret, if two are dead.”crazyprick
    • Randle, dumb enough to threaten violence. Par the the course.imbecile
    • Hey guise, if there's a QBN ruck gonna happen, I'll be down, don't care which side. Send me location!Khurram
    • How is debating this still a thing? Move the fuck on people!YakuZoku
    • Cool coolrobotinc
    • You lost me at instagram screen capturepango
    • is it ok if a wear a face mask to the meet up? i wouldn’t want to catch cretin from Rendle and Khurramscruffics
    • Meetup? I thought fight were gonna happen. Ready to fuck people up. Anyone, anywhere, any time...Khurram
    • No masked bitches allowed... sorry scruffics :-/Khurram
    • Imagine meeting any of you dweebs socially. As if lolKhurram
    • This isn't Grindr.palimpsest
    • covid was invented in your neuron...neverscared
    • wear a mask on your neurons ..5g is off then but u are safe....god bless bill gates.neverscared
    • Nairn won. :Pmonospaced
    • Something that is lost with the tough guy stance some are taking is.. it's not fucking hard to wear a mask. If that breaks you, have fun with the real world.garbage
    • Pre-COVID I already had a stockpile because we were having to deal with rampant smokestorms, in which you couldn't walk outside without hacking.garbage
    • Used to have to scrub ash off my car like people do sleet, so hearing people bitch and moan about wearing a mask is fucking soft.garbage
  • Hayoth0

    Pretty sure every masker I see in public follows this board.

    • Belittling people for protecting themselves and others? You'd've been one of those morons opposing seatbelts.imbecile
    • It's the folk in cars, all by themselves, wearing masks that are funniest.zardoz
    • Cool coolrobotinc
    • lol imbecile doesn't realise he's the lowest form of man in this realmRendle
    • a compliment coming from youimbecile
  • _niko10

    Randle, see this? the thing on the left goes into your belly button to dissolve tumours, the thing on the right claps tumours until they're gone.


    CBD oil taken up the ass or in the vag cures cancer.

    "I would give my father a shot of his urine ... and I'd do that three times a day," he told the class. "You can think this is ego, but I got rid of [my dad's] leukemia in six weeks. Untraceable."

    when you don't trust the mainstream or science or the medical establishment, you fall victims to grifters like this guy

    Dr. Detox

    He touted a cure for HIV in the 80's before being run out of the country for fraud.

    He makes a killing taking the life savings of people like you.

    People that need and deserve real medical treatments but have fallen victims to conspiracies and other nonsense.

    Your spread of misinformation is not only completely idiotic and laughable, but extremely dangerous.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/m…

    • lol. Are you going to wear a mask and social distance for the rest of your life?Rendle
    • Fuck offcrazyprick
  • utopian1

    Yet another grifter peddling their doomsday prepper kits (aka) covid hoaxer, flat earther, election denier ass clown.

    • It's good money. Benny Shaps is on that shit too. Fucking ghoulsPhanLo
    • Tim Pool isnt an election denier. He gets lots of stick for it.zardoz
    • (And it's video from 2 years ago)zardoz
    • Lol putopian is made because he took the poison jab lol Commi much?Hayoth
    • Tim Poop is such a cuntcrazyprick
  • shapesalad0

    You do realise that mRNA vaccines have been tested in humans, used in real life situations since 2011? It's not an untested new technology.

    So that's nearly a decade of use but all of a sudden it's

    "Every single half wit that defends these untested mRNA shots would have been defending thalidomide in the 50s"

    • The COVID 19 mRNA shots were not clinically tested in any significant amount before being tested on the whole worldRendle
    • It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics you perform in order not to face the facts. You've been part of a clinical trial.Rendle
    • If you possessed independent thought and critical analysis, you'd know that already, rather than making a fool of yourself on the internet.Rendle
    • You do realise we're talking about those specific vaccines, yes? Surely you've grasped that, at least?Rendle
    • You also understand hat they still told you thalidomide was safe, ten years after first administering, so what on earth is your point here?Rendle
    • If any of the nonsense you claim is true rendle you’d see mass deaths on a scale unmatched in history. But you don’t. You see people died with covidmonospaced
    • Tens of millions had the vaccines and many had 3 or more doses beyond and almost none statistically had health issues.monospaced
    • The government didn’t say thakidomide was safe either. But science found it wasn’t and it was pulled.monospaced
    • Oh I guess the hospitals were administering it illegally in your delusional world? Fuck me you're all complete idiotsRendle
    • You'll literally say anything to convince yourself you're right, no matter how idioticRendle
    • Rendle I've had 3 covid vaccines and my health is super good. You should worry more about eating processed foods, vegetable oils, sugar, and low quality meats.shapesalad
    • Rendle, COVID vaccines are the most scrutinized meds in the history of the world, with thousands of studies dating back to Jan 2020, a year before approval...ptrdo
    • ...See for yourself: https://www.who.int/…ptrdo
    • One whole year? Lol..I can't have a serious conversation with any of you.Rendle
    • The most scrutinized meds in the history of the world? Less than one year of testing? You're not serious. Surely you're not actually serious.Rendle
    • My thalidomide comparison went straight over your head too, didn't it?Rendle
    • It's becoming very clear to see that it's only the idiots that are defending this.Rendle
    • Excuse me? The government isn’t the medical marketing program. They get behind vaccines for the health of society. Medical doctors prescribed thalidomide dude.monospaced
    • Rendle, this is how the human body works: things go in, and the body shits them out. Or sweat or urine. Food, drink, splinters, even medication too...ptrdo
    • ...This is why you take a 2nd aspirin to get rid of a headache—the last aspirin was dismantled and eliminated. Whatever it did is done and the body does the rest...ptrdo
    • ...Vaccines are the same. The contain an antigen that triggers an immune response and then it's all washed away—usually within 48 hours, just like anything else...ptrdo
    • ...It doesn't take 3 or 5 of 10 years to test this. We know how it works. In fact, what vaccines do is set in motion a process that every body does every day...ptrdo
    • ...The 7,000+ vaccine trials were mainly testing for EFFICACY—does the resultant immune response do more good than harm? That's it. That's the test...ptrdo
    • ...In a year's time (2020), millions of subjects of every demographic received trial vaccines. This is an immense feat, far more extensive than anything previous...ptrdo
    • ...Billions of doses have been given, normalcy has returned, and virtually no deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine. Because it's pissed out.ptrdo
    • cool coolrobotinc
    • Rendle, thalidomide is essentially a poison that was found to trigger sedative effects. This was 1952—71 years ago, before vaccines were even invented...ptrdo
    • ...In 1952, mechanisms were not in place to adequately test new drugs. The priority at the time was to take an abundance of snake oils off the market...ptrdo
    • ...My own brother was born without a hand and thalidomide was suspected, as were other drugs. Fortunately, 71 years ago is light years away. Now is not then.ptrdo
    • Vaccines certainly did exist in 1952. They discovered the smallpox innoculation in 1796.monNom
    • ...Yes, but vaccines prior to Polio (1955) were mainly reactive—given to the infected and those in close contact with them. Polio was proactively given to anyone.ptrdo
  • yuekit1

    Highly pathogenic avian influenza A(H5N1) virus infection discovered in farmed minks in Spain

    https://www.eurosurveillance.org…

    Last year this article made the case SARS-CoV-2 could have also come from mink farms:

    https://reporterre.net/Mounting-…

    Many scientists think we may be entering the age of pandemics due to human population growth, destruction of the natural world and industrial farming. Minks and other small mammals are ideal incubators since they are easily infected, they virus spreads within the environment of the farm and then becomes better adapted to mammals and eventually humans.

    People with their "viruses only come from labs", "I'll never take a vaccine" and "viruses don't exist" theories may be in for a tough time if that's true.

    • "The question isn't if this will turn into a human pandemic, it's how long do we have until it does"yuekit
    • https://twitter.com/…yuekit
    • Apparently it's just a few mutations away from becoming transmissible among humansyuekit
    • 'human population growth, destruction of the natural world and industrial farming' <— this is the ultimate 'fuck around and find out'.Continuity
    • Yeah, I think we'll get a Big One in '24. Maybe sooner.zardoz
    • Election year innitzardoz
    • There are as many potential threats from microbes as there are stars in the sky. Some are suspected of mass extinctions, such as “The Great Dying” 252M yrs ago.ptrdo
    • Interesting point, I didn't know that about the Triassic extinction or however it's called. Also if you watch the Steven Soderbergh film Contagion, theyyuekit
    • predicted basically everything that would happen with the SARS-2 pandemic, even the guy selling you a fake cure.yuekit
  • grafician0

    "Israel says has not found a link between Pfizer COVID shot and stroke"

    https://www.reuters.com/business…

    • produced in 11 sites across five countries, U.S., Germany, Belgium, Ireland, and Croatia, and engages more than 20 suppliers.uan
    • Oh God, things had calmed down a littlefadein11
    • I can only imagine living in 2023 and still thinking Reuters is a trustworthy source.Rendle
    • Or Israel for that matterRendle
    • cool coolrobotinc
    • That seems to be the response here from the idiots that have nothing else to say. It's like you all like to broadcast the fact you're the idiots here. ThanksRendle
  • zardoz-3
    • Future pandemic, oh joy,zardoz
    • We need a vaccine against Tony Blair.shapesalad
    • If there's one person on this planet I'd like to see strung up from a tree, it's Tony Blair.Nairn
    • oh fuck, did I just concur with SS?

      lol. I should refresh before responding..
      Nairn
    • You'll lockdown and wear a mask and take another vaccine when he tells you to, though, won't you?Rendle
    • Mark my words they'll try and do it again. It's the most profitable scam in recorded history.Rendle
    • Social credit score is incoming and you brainwashed fucks are in here supporting and defending these people and their lies.Rendle
    • Pfizer literally admitted they didn't test for transmission and these demons are planning to bring in digital IDs based on vaccination statusRendle
    • And you guys think I'M the liar? lolRendle
    • Nairn has just made it clear to everyone that he only agrees with people he likes, otherwise he wouldn't dare. Says a lot.Rendle
    • Coo.Nairn
    • Is it?Rendle
    • I don't think it isRendle
    • cool coolrobotinc
    • Rendle, it is practically impossible to observe transmission of a virus in real-world circumstance. A waft of breath from a passerby is sufficient to infect...ptrdo
    • ...Vaccines work by priming an immune defense, which quickens its response and shortens the incubation period, lessening the potential for infectiousness...ptrdo
    • ...Testing for vaccine efficacy involves the distribution of time to recovery, which can have many contributing factors, but with vax status as a variable...ptrdo
    • ...The quicker the recovery, the less opportunity there is for infectiousness, which has a beneficial influence on transmissibility within a population.ptrdo
    • The Basic Reproduction Number (R₀) explains how vaccines work—you can't catch what's not going around.
      https://en.wikipedia…
      ptrdo
    • ...Note that SARS-CoV-2 (Omicron) is 3x more infectious than the common cold and 6x more so than flu. This is why vaccines are so absolutely necessary.ptrdo
    • ...Someone with COVID becomes an amplifier—possibly spreading it to 10 others who each spread it to 10 more, making 100. Do the math. This is the nature of COVID...ptrdo
    • ...But when people have an immune defense at the ready, they might spread it to only 3 others who each spread it to 3 more, making 9. HUGE difference.ptrdo
  • Rendle-3

    Every single half wit that defends these untested mRNA shots would have been defending thalidomide in the 50s, simply because the government and media said it was safe. These people don't possess critical thought or analysis, they simply have so little faith in their own intelligence and power of deduction that they can only go along with the ideas and beliefs that have been pumped into them by those that have motivations beyond simply helping people, and motivations beyond the comprehension of these half witted oafs.

    These are the people that would have not only blindly defended the use of thalidomide, because they were told to do so, but actually ridiculed and attacked those that even suggested for a second that it might not be a good idea.

    It only took the mainstream 50 years to acknowledge the disasterous affect this substance had on the human physiology. Long after certain groups had made unimaginable profits on the death and maiming of innocent human beings.

    I genuinely wonder how long it will take the blind mRNA supporting half wits of today to realise not only the evil they so emotionally defend but the truth they so disgustingly ridicule.

    Time will only tell if these idiots wake up to their idiocy before they die. The few that do will probably be too mortified to openly admit their mistakes so will defend it to the death, or their death, so as to preserve their sense of false morality.

    And until then they'll continue ridiculing those who seek to help them and defending those who seek to profit from their demise. We now live in a world, as the Bible predicted, where good is labelled evil and evil labelled as good.

    What a time to be alive.

    • No-one here cares about your swivel-eye lunatic conspiracy theories.
      Why do you persist? Would it not be more personally rewarding to you to find a reddit group
      Continuity
    • ... of like-minded weirdos, so that you can all have a great big circle-jerk over this stuff, comfortably knowing you're among fellow swivel-eyed lunatics?Continuity
    • You're a lunatic if you don't 100% agree with big pharma and the government? You're one of the idiots I'm talking about above. In case you didn't realise.Rendle
    • According to you, so is everyone else here. So why do you persist? Answer the fucking question.Continuity
    • It's funny that you speak for every single user of qbn. The sure sign of an idiot.Rendle
    • Whatever you, fucking pigeon. I asked you a direct question, and you keep evading. The surest sign there you have no fucking clue.Continuity
    • lol. Maybe I'm not interested in playing stupid games with idiots.Rendle
    • Maybe you think I owe you something? I don't owe you shit, you little empty headed weasel.Rendle
    • Your stance is that you don't agree with me so I should shut up and stop talking? What a piece of living scum.Rendle
    • You're still yammering? Go get reamed by the splintered end of a broken cricket bat, you spastic fucking pigeon.Continuity
    • Great argument. You're really stamping down your intellectual authority here.Rendle
    • If you don't like it, simply fuck off?Rendle
    • you're comparing thalidomide to MRNA lol.
      one was taken to stop moving sickness - a mild irritant. The other was taken to stop death and the spreading of death
      _niko
    • Clearly you are so utterly simple minded that the comparison has gone straight over your head.Rendle
    • What difference does it make what they were used for? The comparison is in the fact we were told it was safe but turned out not to be.Rendle
    • I at least gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were smart enough to get that, but you can't even understand THAT?Rendle
    • Then you have no hope in understand anything else so best you stay out of it.Rendle
    • Yuekit is the only person so far that has given me anything even close to a sensible argumentRendle
    • sigh, the issue is that you're not comparing aples to apples. A better comparison would be the polio vaccine. yes it has side effects but it also eradicated pol_niko
    • polio. And that vaccine went from an experimental vaccine in 1953 to using it on millions of children by 1954._niko
    • you see, morning sickness isn't a deadly disease, so the side effects of birth defects is way worse that what it was trying to cure. Plus morning sickness isn't_niko
    • contagious. but Polio and Covid are. and the vaccine even though it has side effects is a risk worth taking because it saved tens of millions of lives._niko
    • No I'm comparing something that the mainstream thought was healthy and turned out not to be, to something today the mainstream think is healthyRendle
    • How can you not grasp that basic concept?Rendle
    • it's calculating the risk/reward. I think everyone accepts that there is a level of potential danger with vaccines, even the media, even us idiots_niko
    • but the risk to our lives and the lives of those around us from covid especially in the strains early on was far greater._niko
    • like 100,000 fold greater_niko
    • Covid has a 99.9% survival rate.Rendle
    • and the vaccines have a 99.999999999999% survival rate_niko
    • 1 in 88 that got covid died in the US that's not 99.9% broski._niko
    • oh wait, I just saw your bible quote. you quoted the bible. and you want to have an intelligent debate? it all makes sense now._niko
    • Should be simple...just post the definitive evidence the mRNA vaccines are dangerous. If you haven't done that why are you surprised people aren't convinced?yuekit
    • And if that evidence doesn't exist, why do you believe it so strongly yourself to the point of calling other people idiots?yuekit
    • he's not saying that they ARE dangerous he's saying we don't KNOW if they're dangerous. Much like that eclair I ate today, who knows what will happen in 10 year_niko
    • ...years time, yet here I am like an idiot, trusting big Pastry._niko
    • His other comments seem to suggest he knows it's dangerous. "You sound so utterly foolish, because you're completely ignorant to the damage the vaccineyuekit
    • has, but more importantly will, cause in people."yuekit
    • yeah this is what we're dealing with here. He's not worried about something that is actually killing people en masse right now because he's concerned about_niko
    • ...something that may or may not kill you 10 years from now. Or at least cause you to grow a third arm or shoot flames out of your ass._niko
    • cool coolrobotinc
    • Ya set. Why do you persist? For a shot at saving us? Awwwwwwwwwwwwpango
    • lol @ 'Big Pastry'Continuity
  • yuekit4

    "people like yuekit stuck in psychosis thinks these little small time doctors with nothing to gain, and their reputation to lose, reporting the dangers of the vaccine... are they ones lying"

    Meanwhile...

    Anti-vaxxers make up to $1.1 billion for social media companies

    https://www.codastory.com/warons…

    How anti-vaxxers monetize misinformation

    https://derekberes.substack.com/…

    • Conspiracy theories always work like this... extreme distrust towards the government, businesses, society as a whole...yuekit
    • Extreme trust, almost like a puppy, towards the people telling you the conspiracy, even when it's obvious they are grifters and proven liars.yuekit
    • But lots of conspiracy theories have been proven true... MK Ultra, Tuskegee, Tonkin Gulfzardoz
    • So to say they *always* work like this is demonstrably untrue.zardoz
    • Sounds like a lot. Until you hear big pharma spent $6.8B on direct to consumer advertising last year in the US alone.monNom
    • Those weren't necessarily conspiracy theories that people figured out on their own...the government itself revealed that MK Ultra happened for instance.yuekit
    • Conspiracies exist in the world but the number of popular conspiracy theories that ended up being true is about a 0% success rate.youngdesigner
    • @monNom you shouldn't automatically trust big pharma either. The question is why you gonna trust a bunch of anti-vaxxers who have built a business aroundyuekit
    • this stuff, with landing pages, selling subscriptions etc. It's not exactly what you'd expect to see if the government was censoring this information.yuekit
    • That's why 80% of the accounts I followed pre pandemic have now been deleted due to sharing vaccine injuries. You'll tell yourself anythingRendle
    • The UK alone spent £37 billion on testing mostly perfectly healthy, symptomless people between 2020 and 2022. Get some perspective. Utter half wit.Rendle
    • You've got to learn to hold two opposing thoughts at the same time. Some accounts being banned isn't contradictory with it being a business for anti-vaxxers.yuekit
    • I never said it was a bigger business than the entire drug industry or testing industry lol. But it is making a lot of money for some people...yuekit
    • https://starstat.yt/…yuekit
    • You should he was just some kindly old doctor guy but no...he's John Campbell, the millionaire boss of a disinformation empire.yuekit
  • Rendle-7

    To the astute individual it's already obvious that people are dropping dead of heart issues and strokes in a higher number than ever before recorded. For those of you that only believe it when the mainstream report it, I guess you'll only figure it out once it becomes too obvious to ignore. Which will be within the next few years as the nature of destroying the immune system is that it takes a while for the body to break down.

    There have been over a thousand athletes on record dying mid-action over the past two years. The same amount in record that died within the past 30 years.

    Those of you still stuck in psychosis will wake up eventually, and it's going to be tough. I suggest starting to at least entertain the idea that everything is not as you've been told. That will help.

    • The "people" dying from the vaccine cannot be counted as humans deaths since they are no longer human. There have been zero human deaths from the vaccine.palimpsest
    • Source: " if you took the mRNA you're no longer legally considered a human"
      https://www.qbn.com/…
      palimpsest
    • Is that your only argument? Some idiotic intangible ridicule that makes you feel better about your idiotic stance?Rendle
    • The vaccine is 100% safe (for humans).palimpsest
    • You do understand the law about patenting, right? You can't patent something of nature, but if you genetically modify it, you can..Rendle
    • ... Because it's no longer legally considered the same thing. Do you understand the concepts that you're ridiculing? Or do you just lol first ask questions lateRendle
    • The question is very simple:
      Are humans dying from the vaccine?
      Y/N
      palimpsest
    • I dare you to answer. 1. Is the mRNA gene altering? 2. Can you patent and own an organism if you genetically modify it? I'll waitRendle
    • Follow up question:
      What is my stance and how is it idiotic?
      palimpsest
    • 1. Yes, the mRNA gene is altering, therefore you are no longer human.
      2. Yes, because by altering you have created a new species.
      palimpsest
    • So your apparent sarcasm was indeed genuine? Fair enoughRendle
    • I'm waiting for my answers.palimpsest
    • Of course there are people dying from the vaccine, even the mainstream acknowledges that. Your stance? You tell me you're being either sarcastic or idioticRendle
    • I like how you DARED me to answer your questions yet you still can't properly answer mine.palimpsest
    • Here it goes again:
      The question is *very* simple:
      Are *humans* dying from the vaccine?
      Y/N
      palimpsest
    • I've just answered... Yes. Can you show me proof that no one has died from the vaccine? If not.. what exactly is your point? Other than deflectingRendle
    • I thought you understood my stance. It's the ONLY I've I've made. You said it was stupid.palimpsest
    • I'll make it again:
      No human has died from the vaccine because those that have taken it are no longer human.
      palimpsest
    • SureRendle
    • OK.palimpsest
    • LOL it's like talking to a chat bot in the early 2000spango
    • What's the only I've you've made palimpsetRendle
    • What isRendle
    • What isssssssRendle
    • Yes.palimpsest
    • SeenRendle
    • So don’t get the fucking vaccine. Holy shit, i thought we put this ancient argument to bed years agoscarabin
    • If you don't want to talk about it, then kindly fuck off. We do.Rendle
    • who's we?pango
    • Me and the people responding? It's like talking with genuinely autistic people in here. Is that what qbn is now?Rendle
    • You show up out of nowhere trying to stir up years-old shit and insulting people and we’re not allowed to react?scarabin
    • Nobody invited you back. If QBN is so autistic fuck off yourselfscarabin
    • why is QBN host to so many pubic meltdowns? fascinating in a way.fadein11
    • publicfadein11
    • pubic meltdown is not far offpango
    • Trying to warn people of the dangers of the vaccine is a meltdown in your little soft handed world is it? lolRendle
    • nope, just weird you blurt your nonsense in at least 3 usernames on a design forum.fadein11
    • pronoun boy to the rescue in 3.2.1....fadein11
    • Lol. In your head this played out with you descending from the clouds with some brilliant revelation and we all praise and thank you for saving us. Hahahascarabin
    • So noblescarabin
    • I think that's very obviously in your head, not mine? There are only 3 or 4 retards here still believing the vaccines aren't killing people.Rendle
    • If even one person looks into this themselves and decides to not poison themselves further with more boosters, then my time here wasn't wastedRendle
    • You can ridicule me all you want, I couldn't give one single shiny fuck what 3 or 4 brainwashed big pharma celebrating retards say to me. You can go all day...Rendle
    • That’s the bit i love. Coming in swinging, telling us your derision and insults are for our benefit. Beating us over the head with info we didn’t ask you forscarabin
    • and completely losing your shit when we laugh at you. So noble, you poor thingscarabin
    • Your latest public freakout isn’t coming from a place of care and concern for us. Not sure why you lie to yourself like thatscarabin
    • Set. I feel you need to save your friends and family first. Are they saved?pango
    • Scarabin, how exactly did I lose my shit? I'm genuinely interested to hear.Rendle
    • So you mean lose my shit like someone posted my username is the spammer report hotline to get me banned for having a different view?Rendle
    • Or multiple users wishing death on me for having an alternative view? CuriousRendle
    • The brainwashed say 'trust the science' but isn't science about considering all possibilities and discussing them?Rendle
    • You weren’t posted there for your views, you were posted there for being an insufferable cuntscarabin
    • Most users here are insufferable cuntsRendle
    • I'm only insufferable to you because my opinions terrify you. They make you uncomfortable.Rendle
    • If I'm right, that means you're in the group of lowest intelligence on all of earth. If you knew I was wrong, it wouldn't bother you. But it does.Rendle
    • Why? If I was spouting the idea of the spaghetti monster being supreme deity, you all wouldn't get upset, because it's stupid. You know I'm right, deep downRendle
    • All hail the spaghetti monster!pango
    • church of the spaghetti monster is no joke! you're speaking to one of the proud member right nowpango
    • I don’t care about your views. I’m just annoyed by the constant chicken little with tourette’s routinescarabin
    • My fault for not scrolling on, but damn, guyscarabin
  • Raybandana-5

    My neighbour had a stroke after his shot and the doctor said we are not allowed to say this but we've been see alot more people having strokes after their shot.

    Whats that all about?

    • you saw your neighbours doctor about his heart attack?scruffics
    • Jesus, what was he vaccinated with?
      Sounds pretty horrifying.
      sted
    • 'It's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled' - Pete Townshendzardoz
    • But aye, the experimental therapy had side effects.Dissenting voices were muffled for political reasons.zardoz
    • Informed consent, bodily autonomy etc are far right ideologies.zardoz
    • He was vaccinated, he had his 3rd booster, and that booster causes a stroke. He told me his doctor said that too him about his stroke.Raybandana
    • Sadly this is incredibly commonRendle
    • If they really cared about our health this would be big news. It isn't.Rendle
    • It's common to talk to your neighbors' doctor?pango
    • I'm this doctor and this is all true, like everything on the internetcrazyprick
    • smell bullshit from this story LOLpango
    • "we are not allowed to say this"
      "the doctor said"
      yuekit
    • Where did you copy that story from? Lolpango
    • why is this site such a loon magnet?,fadein11
    • because you don't post enough, that's why :) idk maybe because they think here they will get the attention they want?sted
    • If it doesn't fit with my belief system, instead of reassessing my belief system, I'll just claim it's bullshit. Much easier.Rendle
    • that's right, Randyscruffics
    • Well I thought it was, yes.Rendle
    • Rendle "I'll believe anything on internet. Dumber the better"pango
    • Do you talk to your neighbors doctor? Lolpango