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- BaskerviIle3
I feel like I'm relatively alone here in the UK in my relief that we're finally getting to a proper lockdown. It's overdue and seeing my friends working in the NHS, frustratingly trying to fight back the tide is heartbreaking. All these tiers that no one understands have just been a chance for many to do as they please and flout any existing rules, others have merely been confused by it all.
Our scientists have highlighted the need for a true lockdown for weeks as the cases/hospitalisations/deaths skyrocket. These calls have been thoroughly ignored by the government.
Now all I hear is complaints about the hardships of another lockdown. If people had been doing the right things already, then a lockdown is really a very minimal change in existing cautious behaviours. After 9 months, people should be used to the change in their everyday lives. What happened to the 'new normal'?
Yes the UK government sucks, but I also feel people are absolving themselves of any responsibility. The virus only spreads if people do the wrong thing. The numbers are going up because people are spreading it, wittingly or unwittingly.
Is it so hard to suck it up for a couple of months and act responsibly, forgo some middle class luxuries and ride it out?
Punches for:
– People who went to pubs/restaurants when they were open
– Travelled around the UK for leisure
– Travelled abroad for a holiday
– Spread antivaxx bullshit/don't want to be vaccinated
– Parents who want teachers to provide daycare while exposing themselves and the students they teach to the virus./rant
- World beating Track and Trace.... surely was all we needed. erm...shapesalad
- To be fair, going on Holiday was safer than going to Morrisons Supermarket. Airport quiet, few people, cleaner, more hand gel, everyone masked up.shapesalad
- Every time I go in my local Tesco Metro... I feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette. Tiny thin aisles, staff wearing masks badly, no 2m distancing. no hand gelshapesalad
- no cleaning of baskets or self-service touch screens. Queue outside just = people stand 1m next to you and fiddle with their masks.shapesalad
- Once the 1st lockdown began the govmnt stopped the key massaging about physical distancing and, crucially, isolating properly.Fax_Benson
- Why can't the Gov figure out the top areas for people spreading the virus, and just close them. Queuing 2m apart for a take-away coffee from a cafe door - doesshapesalad
- that provide a location for a super hot spot of covid infection, or is that down the bottom of the list?shapesalad
- Lockdown is just enforced social distancing.Fax_Benson
- No idea, but it's now closed off. News recently said hospitals were the hot spots for new infections! so it's all a fucking mess.shapesalad
- ... and it didn't have to be this way. follow Taiwans lead and rule book, jobs a good'un.shapesalad
- Still waiting for the Gov to tell everyone to take Vitamin D supplements....shapesalad
- I agree. But why risk the guesswork? Should distancing be 1m or 2m apart? Why not say 3m or 4m to be sure? An excess of caution can't hurtBaskerviIle
- The best advice is still the simplest. Behave like you have the virus. Assume you could always be transmitting it. Assume you could always receive it.BaskerviIle
- It should be obvious that getting on a plane to another country is counter productive. This whole thing is about keeping transmission down and containmentBaskerviIle
- In the spirit of exercising excess caution I've been taking Vit D since March, wear a mask anytime I leave my house etc. It's literally no effort on my partBaskerviIle
- Behave like you have the virus is indeed great advice. However, I now act like I don't have the virus, and everyone in Tesco's does - and do my shop in 1min.shapesalad
- and then get the f out of there. Alos I cross the road to the quieter side of the street if someone is coming towards me.shapesalad
- Hold my breath if someone passes close to me. Try to breath in fresh air with my face pointing away from where they've been.shapesalad
- Anyway.. love the fact Corybn's brother is at the anti-covid protests. So fucked up.shapesalad
- Haha, I do all of the above too. I've started doing one big weekly shop and getting to the supermarket when it opens to ensure it's very quiet.BaskerviIle
- Mr & Mrs Corbyn have a lot to answer forBaskerviIle
- Since April, not been to a supermarket after 9am... best time is between 7am - 8am.shapesalad
- LOCK IT ALL DOWNnecromation
- BURN EVERYTHING DOWNhans_glib
- face_melter1
Oh dear. The fun has only started.
US pharmacist who tried to ruin Covid vaccine doses is a conspiracy theorist, police say
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- pr2-13
Do i have to be the asshole again to explain what this data means, or are people smart enough here to understand the data?
- basically, until we develop the test that shows who is ACTUALLY sick and not only who had the virus, the spike in cases means absolutely nothing.pr2
- places that were hit hard at the beginning, developed immunity.pr2
- As someone who is married to someone on the front line, I can assure you it has more to do with advances made in saving lives and treating COVID than anything.monospaced
- Herd immunity doesn't exist in New York. Do I have to be an asshole or are you smart enough to comprehend this?monospaced
- as usual, pr2's social skills are not the bestGuyFawkes
- What that data shows is that we're now testing a lot more than we were in April.BaskerviIle
- Likely the actual case numbers in April were far higher than 10,000 hence the high death rate. December's numbers are probably more accurateBaskerviIle
- Plus as mono says, we're far better at treating things now than back in AprilBaskerviIle
- lololol at pr2 with the condescending snark and then shows his ignorance by jumping to the conclusion that this is because of "developed immunity"********
- Like Sweden developed herd immunity so well that they went into forced lockdown eventually lol_niko
- *add to feedpalimpsest
- mono, we don't threat people better then in April. (i've done a number of filming around the issue where we spoke to the docs on both side of the "barricade")pr2
- mono, heard immunity ABSOLUTELY exist in NYC because maybe as much as 40-50% of people had it already here already (not EXACTLY heard immunity but close).pr2
- Bask, though indeed it is true that we test more. We also get way more positives where only 1 in 10 is ACTUAL case...pr2
- ...while the other 9 show that they had virus already (it stays in your body up to 2-3 months).pr2
- niko, death rates in Sweden are EXACTLY the same as the countries that went into strict lock down early on. There is no point to lol over hard data.pr2
- np, clearly you are not a scientist nor have you ever read a science paper so like lol at your own ignorance.pr2
- nbpr2
- Please describe how the jpg you posted proves herd immunity. Also can you dumb it down for us idiots thanks we appreciate it sir********
- @pr2 What you don't seem to understand is that it's not a binary positive/negative = death/fine. This virus causes all kinds of after effectsBaskerviIle
- The point isn't cases vs deaths. It's the overall, long term health of the population. Think of deaths as the extreme end of a spectrum of severity of illness.BaskerviIle
- If you're not worried by the numbers in the you either don't understand or you're not concern with the welfare of your fellow citizens. I sense it's both.BaskerviIle
- Either way there is no downside to taking it seriously, and a great deal of downsides if you're wrong. So err on the side of caution for the sake of everyone.BaskerviIle
- Basker, you ARE speculating now. While long-term effects might or might not be serious, long-term effects on those who can't get medical care...pr2
- ...psychological effects and lack of education (remote learning is a joke) ARE serious.pr2
- I'm not speculating, I know people with long covid who are still not recovered. I hear this from my doctor friends who see it first hand.BaskerviIle
- Once again, it's not an either/or situation. Solving mental health issues from a lockdown still doesn't deal with the virus...then you just end up with bothBaskerviIle
- It's possible to have mental health effects from isolation AND covid once you reemerge. It's shades of grey no a binary choice.BaskerviIle
- We need to adapt, not expect everything to return to normal. That includes creating better remote learning solutions. As designers we should be addressing this.BaskerviIle
- Basker, you are too optimistic about power of technology. After the initial lockdown, seeing my 5 year old desperate for human contact made me rethink my fear.pr2
- Thankfully working in the media i rejected the media and instead hit the science papers that don't support your friend's views (nor my initial fear).pr2
- Yes we DO treat people better now than in April. My wife works at Northwell. My best friends are front line at NYU. They know. You don’t.monospaced
- I heard the CEO of Northwell say yesterday, LIVE, that the reason death is down is entirely because if improvements in treatment. Nothing else.monospaced
- No herd immunity exists according to every expert asked. And you are NOT one of them. Never will be regardless of how much you filmed there.monospaced
- In conclusion you’re still flat out wrong.monospaced
- On top of everything else, why do you expect there to be a correlation between the number of cases and number of deaths reported on a given day?yuekit
- and I thought I was dumb********
- Lol @ a filmmaker telling me I'm not a scientist********
- wanna see my video?
https://64.media.tum…GuyFawkes - pr2 vs mono:
https://media.giphy.…GuyFawkes - Mono, in a span of a few days i've done two interviews, one with the covid front line doctor and one with epidemiologist who cares about data...pr2
- ...their conclusions were VASTLY different. The doctor is too close to the issue (like fish in water who will never understand water) to know the true scope.pr2
- Also, next time you might want to pick different source than a CEO of a company as they are hired to spew the BS you want to hear.pr2
- "Some" advances in treatments doesn't account for the 8 fold drop in mortality.pr2
- nb, that shall tell you how low you've fallen when EVEN a filmmaker tells you how little you know about science.pr2
- You don’t know even know my name and you presume to know my education, qualifications. LOLOL you must be a brilliant documentarian. ;)********
- Again, there is nothing in your screenshot data that even suggests a cause, yet you stormed in here expecting us to read your mind and agree!********
- pr2, I've talked to waaaay more front line doctors than you, then. TWO? I've talked to dozens and dozens, from NYU, Columbia and Northwell. You're wrong.monospaced
- And if you talked to two, and their views were different, you're literally saying ONE doctor told you this. What a joke. I actually don't believe you.monospaced
- YOu do realize the CEO of Northwell is head of the front line for coronavirus right?monospaced
- Mono, are you working on some documentary related to Covid, or is talking to dozens of doctors your hobby? No ability to READ science papers?pr2
- utopian0
FDA Warns Against Tinkering With Pfizer, Moderna Vaccine Regimens After White House Advisor's Comments
FDA said using a single-dose regimen or administering less than the dose previously studied in the clinical trials without “understanding the nature of the depth and duration of protection that it provides is concerning.”
#MAGA2024
- do americans know how to follow simple instructions?renderedred
- Ramanisky21
This is happening today at Pro Trump rally in DC
- "I'm married but if you wanna give me a hug...."********
- Haha what?!instrmntl
- "I'm married but if you wanna give me a hug...."
- Ramanisky20
Covid-19 denier Clay Clark
Here’s the MOOKS entire speechStarts 45:15
- Jesus is King and it's time to let freedom reign. I like his pyramid scheme salesman style.PhanLo
- Look at all these scholars and geniuses********
- MrT3
- ok_not_ok10
- lolGuyFawkes
- hahahahAwhatthefunk
- So are we anti-vaxers now?GuyFawkes
- Ok, that's not ok.Longcopylover
- funny thoughGuyFawkes
- cute top thosea_sea
- I wouldmort_
- Wampautopian
- Milo?PhanLo
- probably wouldautoflavour
- grafician0
EU just approved Moderna vaccine, after Pfizer.
- utopian1
BREAKING NEWS
Los Angeles County ambulances and medics have been given the order and a directive to let people die and not resuscitate dieing people because they were no beds available in all the hospitals in LA County.
- utopian0
Southern California ICU beds at 0% amid COVID-19 surge
- "We’re rounding the corner, again!” - Trumputopian
- "it's totally under control" - Trumpdorf
- when will biden start to get blamed for all this? :)renderedred
- grafician1
Moderna CEO says vaccine likely to protect for 'couple of years'
https://www.reuters.com/article/…
“The antibody decay generated by the vaccine in humans goes down very slowly (...) We believe there will be protection potentially for a couple of years.”
- nice, i'm looking forward to getting 6G, 7G support in future vaccine booster shotsdorf
- grafician0
BREAKING: Pfizer says its coronavirus vaccine appears to work against new strand discovered in the United Kingdom
- “Appears to work”.. we’re sooo fucked.maquito
- One last longer, the other appears to work against the new strand. Sounds like marketing.Maaku
- Marketing? are you all just pure cynicism now? It's a vaccine developed to stop the pandemic, ffs.monospaced
- The idea that the vaccine also appears to work on a mutated virus is a good thing, dumbasses.monospaced
- utopian-1
At least 50% of COVID-19 cases spread from people without symptoms, a new study found.
- i think that's one important point. people inadvertently passing it on.renderedred
- this is why we wear masks, stay home, and do online grocery shopping for pickup, isn't it? Oh, just me?imbecile
- did u bother reading the paper or "copy & paste" a link is the apex of your skills?pr2
- cause in case u didn't know it's a modeling study using very questionable data that only reflects how virus spread VERY EARLY in the pandemic.pr2
- word "assumption" is mentioned no less than 19 times in the paper...pr2
