Dear Spike Lee
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- set0
Later, when another fan dropped him the message 'Dude, pay the graphic artist' on his Instagram page, Lee replied with equal harshness, saying:
“Why Should I Pay Someone Who I Never Met Nor Had Any Contact With Ever? He Never Made Any Deal With Me. Why Don’t You Pay Me For Your Stupid Text On Thanksgiving Day?”
- Obviously he has a point, but it's his opportunity to be a decent human being, and he's not taking it.set
- Why All The Caps?microkorg
- spike celebrates thanksgiving?yurimon
- why would he give a shit? not being funny but it wasnt his fault and he got publicly connected to it... can see both sidesfadein11
- sides really.fadein11
- Whose side are YOU on, fadein11?Continuity
- fadein, the relentless knob brain.set
- < just thinking out loud. I would fall on the designers side. but can see why Spike doesn't really give a fuckfadein11
- set - king of beige.fadein11
- lolset
- In all seriousness though, you really fast becoming the resident half-witset
- Always great to leave words out of a sentence when accusing others of half-witteryset
- Really helps prove my point, when I sound like one myself.set
- Spike Lee should give a shit out of principle, no?set
- yes he should I know. but like all bigshots it will be v.low on his radar unfort. I agree with you...fadein11
- but would need to see the original brief and ideas as the executions are v.different. but still wrong yesfadein11
- Apologies for sounding like a knob - not intentional. this throws up a lot of interesting debates thats all. just discussing.fadein11
- discussing various factors.fadein11
- : )set
- Lee shirking responsibility,
typical Lee.utopian
- pango0
so......
anyone seen the movie yet?
- pango0
The official poster is 95% identical to JG_LB's poster. which the agency is aware of because they requested JG_LB to make that poster. but they offer peanuts and BS so JG_LB declined. JG_LB decided to post his poster on the internet cuz it wasn't going to be used as the official poster. Assuming Lee or Lee's team saw JG_LB's poster on the internet and really liked it. So the agency decided to rip the comp with out renegotiating with JG_LB and used his work with out paying him.
something like taht....- surely the guy getting out of the box is part of the film and an obvious choice for poster no?fadein11
- type is different, photography style is different. designer can't claim ownership ofr a key moment in the film? just thinking out loud here.fadein11
- out loud here.fadein11
- < this should have been above.fadein11
- really? you don't see it? http://juanluisgarci…pango
- the angle of the box, the style of the box, the field, the girl in the background.... you don't see it?pango
- yep i do but what was the brief? 'box and girl' may have been in it.fadein11
- They're also using JG's comp on social media.goldieboy
- yeah i know that - but thats just a PR company mitakefadein11
- fadein110
correct me if I am wrong - none of the original comps were used as final posters? Just used by a PR agency on Spikes social media?
Why hasn't someone just apologised and removed them? Weird. Clearly an error unrelated to Spike Lee. Why did he react like that?
All seems v.unnecessary.
- instrmntl0
Wow, Spike called it a cheap trick? What an ass. I saw Juan's letter as one artist to another. What a dick. Juan did give him the easy way out in what I thought was as ell written and well thought out letter.
- e-pill0
its even listed on Wikipedia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old…)wow love the inner webs!!
- opps
http://en.wikipedia.…) was missing the last brackete-pill - oi just add a ")" end bracket to the end of the link..e-pill
- opps
- uuuuuu0
got quite a bit of attention on reddit today,
http://www.reddit.com/r/Filmmake…
http://www.reddit.com/r/Design/c…
There is the possibility you can turn this into something, its at least bringing some much needed attention to these issues around bad agencies in the marketing and creative industry. I hope it works out JG.
- ernexbcn0
JG_LB we are with you man, hang in there!
- shaft0
I think JG purposely worded his letter asking Lee for help in a way that wouldn't implicate Lee directly in it — in order to make sure Lee can deal graciously with the case and not only not lose his face in the process, but possibly get some good publicity for the movie and himself in the way.
I think it was a considerate gesture of JG who had all the right to just go "Yo Spike, you're using my work, happens to be stolen and somehow has your name on it. Give me my money."
Spike Lee didn't quite get that he was actually being offered an easy way out, not a problem that wasn't his.
- lodef0
I don't blame Spike for trying to distance himself from the situation all things considering but calling Juan's letter a "cheap trick" when all he is trying to do is stick up for himself and appeal to someone he thought might be able to help is not cool or responsible.
The right thing to do would be to reserve comment for now and find out why his name is written as Copyright on someone else's work...
The fact of the matter is the PR company managing the Facebook and the marketing agency involved are misrepresenting Spike and Juan and using unlicensed art to promote a Spike Lee Joint. Its dishonest to say the least, I can't believe there are companies who try and get away with this bogus shit.
- numero10
Meanwhile, this guy might sale some extra books
- this dude has major helmet breath!utopian
- Can't stand this blowhard.kenteeko
- He can't even compose a grammatically correct tweetset
- in his defense, neither can numero1albums
- Hahaha SELL, I knew it didn't look right. To my defense it is my second language ;) Meanwhile that guy just seems a bit arrogant plus more about Juan and the situation.numero1
- about Juan and the whole situation.numero1
- sureshot0
wow its all over the internet worldwide...even big design comps are tweeting about it. maybe he'll be on Kimmel next week!
- he better get a haircut and some fresh threads readyprophetone
- haha awesome
sea_sea
- chossy0
Without doubt spike has to start shaking the tree. He has a foundation that he set up to help finance struggling film makers. This episode and the proximity he has with it should make him feel a moral obligation to assist. If he doesn't then he is a total bogan. Also girl 6 was the only good film you made cause it geen ees a stawnner.
- Salarrue0
we need to do a SpikeLee PSB
- prophetone0
assuming all the facts are straight and on the table, can't see why he won't win in this.
they don't have a signed agreement, apparently. they prob also don't have his source artwork. plus he has all the crappy correspondence where they flipped out because he stood his ground. they then used his designs w/o permission to promote the movie all over their social channels and put ©Spike Lee on them, wtf!
they can't erase any of this now that it's out there.
with all the high level news stories out there now and we still don't know for certain what agency is responsible for this mess it's like a loaded gun of terrible pr looking for the real target.
someone needs to answer for it one way or another. if agency/spike go after him they will be vilified imo.
spike needs to do the right thing in the form of a tweet that says he sorted it out, ad agency were jerks, designer has been compensated, btw love the posters dude sorry for the wharves my bad YO.
- Continuity0
'I'm curious as to what JG_LB's life is like at the moment'
If I try to put myself in his shoes, I can only imagine it's incredibly stressful, and scary, too.
It's one thing to feel you've been wronged, but imagine crossing that point of no return by expressing it online, especially when one of the parties is a major Hollywood player and the other is part of huge global agency network. Both parties have incredibly deep pockets and access to the best in legal resources. That is not an easy decision to make, by any stretch of the imagination.
It's a David and Goliath scenario, and I can only imagine JG_LB's life in really incredibly stressful at the minute.
I really, really hope you come out on top, mate.
- +1GeorgesIV
- he didnt make the decision - it happened.fadein11
- well putPonyBoy
- He made the decision to go public with the fiasco, though. And that's the scary bit for him, I expect.Continuity