Dear Spike Lee
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- ernexbcn
"Back in January I was approached by an ad agency that was hired to design posters for your new film, Oldboy. They wanted me to design some comps to present to you. They told me the budget was small and that they could only pay me peanuts for the comps but if you and the studio liked any of them I would then be compensated fairly through the licensing buyout fee."
http://juanluisgarcia.com/dear-s…
Sounds familiar?
- ernexbcn0
Oops, did not notice the other thread JG_LB. I found this at Hacker News, you must be getting a shitload of this!
- ukit20
I remember seeing those posters on movie sites. I can't believe they would use them without even paying the designer.
- sem0
Don't get me started on Spike Lee, I can't stand that man.
He's a huge hypocrite on insane levels.- This incident aside, why do people hate Spike Lee so much? I never understood that.ukit2
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- PonyBoy0
The guy's gotta respond after the blowup occurring on his facebook page... or is he that much of a dick? https://www.facebook.com/SpikeLe…
- < This! Go to his page and blow that shit up. And Twitter!HijoDMaite
- pinkfloyd0
Curious to know which agency did this...
- prophetone0
- Nice!PonyBoy
- wrong art though... dipshitsPonyBoy
- < Yeah wasn't the blog post clear enough? It even has caption underneath the pictures.ukit2
- You idiots. They wanted to show the ripped version.iCanHazQBN
- SL and crew are using more than just that art, IcanHaz... any 'idiot' who's paying attention can see that http://web.archive.o…PonyBoy
- http://web.archive.o…PonyBoy
- and wouldn't you at least put the comparison art?PonyBoy
- nb0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old…
It's on Wikipedia, for now.
- nice. i added the hollywoodreporter link above as a citation.bigtrick
- prophetone0
- Ha - At first glance, Spike Lee's signature reads "Fuck You" to me.bulletfactory
- albums0
google search for Oldboy poster: https://www.google.com/#q=oldboy…
- autoflavour0
you would hope he is cool.. but to be honest, i can also totally see him being a complete twat
- beautiful0
i symphatize with you being fucked over, but i can't help to question the move to drag the director in this. he maybe should be made aware about the kind of agency he's associating with, but certainly not publicly, and especially not during the opening? cuz it's not his fault in any way?
why dont you sue the buyers, the bastards, you seem to have a case. and shame them publicly if you feel sth like that is necessary. less viral leverage in that approach of course, but perhaps the right to do?
- sounds like the dude had an uncalled for keelhauling and hit a brick wall w/ the right approachprophetone
- beautiful0
wait, if your stuff is on his fb, cease and desist immediately.
- ukit20
So who would actually own the copyright in a case like this? Considering that all the photos and assets are obviously owned by the studio. Not sure a cease and desist would actually apply here under current copyright law.
- the posters are original designs and copyright belongs to the designer.uuuuuu
- a part of the agreement was he could use them in his portfolio for exposure but he declined their offer to be used as key artuuuuuu
- yet they are using them out of context of his portfolio to promote the movie anywayuuuuuu
- its sort of tough because i don't think they are printing them just posting them on facebook and stuffuuuuuu
- I think it's absolutely wrong of them not to pay him. Just not sure you can copyright something like that.ukit2
- Its his work, its copyrighted but there is a grey area the agency are running with.uuuuuu
- Yes but the work consists partly of photography owned by the studio. Pictures of Brolin, etc.ukit2
- If I use someone's photo in a design, can I copyright that design? I think it's questionable.ukit2
- i get it but we're talking about the ORIGINAL art work/design made by this guy.uuuuuu
- if they gave you permission and you did it under agreement the design you create is yours.uuuuuu
- I get what you're saying. I guess the specifics of any agreement signed would be the key thing here.ukit2
- it's a derivative work, meaning that yes, the photo has it's own copyright (photographer's), but you hold the copyright on your derivative design. so two parties have a copyright interestmonNom
- ...on your design, so two parties have a copyright interest in the work. Maybe more if you consider the type. Doesn't matter, it's still your copyright.monNom
- beautiful0
well if he made the artwork and didnt sign anything away it's obv his stuff?
- beautiful0
or is this about derivative rip-off, not 1:1 rip.off? i shall go and read the letter again, very thouroughly this time
- uuuuuu0
i don't know how this is covered but I don't think they are using them as official poster art they just seem to have taken them from his site and are using them online. He's not ok with it and it wasn't apart of any agreement so its really a matter of appealing to reason and respect.
- and they didn't pay him but sue? not really worth it, they are just being cunts.uuuuuu
