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- colin_s0
ok so legit hardware question
my 2013 MBP is dying to the point where i can use it but can't always rely on it to not die when it is in sleep mode. it's been 10 years and has served me well.
now i don't use laptops the way i used to - i don't work 50 hour weeks on design anymore, but i do personal projects (books primarily, also web / photo work) that require some power. i primarily use the affinity suite for this.
i also do sound art, but most production is in audacity, which is fairly lightweight as well.
so this all being said - what would the votes be for a new laptop investment between the new 15" air against a new MBP? there is a $1000 difference between what i would spec out each as, so i am leaning towards the air.
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- An Apple Silicon Air with full RAM will run circles around what you've got now, with less heat and better battery life. It's feasible for sure.evilpeacock
- In our studio we use M1 Macbook Pros for the designers and M1 Macbook Airs for the account managers. Although they should be similar performance on paper..slappy
- Airs struggle with some of the design files (heat management?). Also with both, the RAM is the weakest link, I would get 32gb+ as that still bonks out sometimesslappy
- @slappy, that's what i've heard the main difference is - the fan / heat mgmt in the pro. i'm not worried about it now, but long term could be a factorcolin_s
- A Pro is a safer longterm investment, and yes get as much RAM as you can; AS still only needs 1/2 what Intel does.evilpeacock
- drgs2
For how long can you wear a VR headset before it gets sweaty and cuts off blood circulation to your face?
Would you wear it to watch a movie at home, say 2 hours?Discuss
- yuekit0
I wonder why there's such little interest in perfecting holographic technology instead...what happened to the future we were promised?
- because that tech in movies is nearly impossible. light can't stop in mid air to form objects and interfaces like depicted in movies.NBQ00
- https://youtu.be/GqD…
https://youtu.be/N6v…
it‘s in Asia...hollywood got the location wronguan - Nice...yeah I saw one store in Akihabara last time I was there that had some kind of smaller holographic signage device set up.yuekit
- And there are still advances in the science behind it happening...
https://phys.org/new…yuekit - Whats wrong with the real world?shapesalad
- ^to much angry monkeys running around.uan
- NBQ000
- that's a meh from mehans_glib
- Is there going to be a skiing app?yuekit
- This entire product is meant to produce and consume porn.jmckinno
- Novelty product. Some of the tech in it will feed through into more 'consumable' products over the next few years... supply chains all being well.shapesalad
- Soap on a Rope.robthelad
- Dude looks like a complete dBag.utopian
- It supports a dualsense controller but only runs apple arcade games. I’d order one now if i knew for sure it would support steamVRscarabin
- They’re really trying to position it as a non-gaming device but when will they learn nobody wants to put on a helmet to check their mail?scarabin
- lol shape, novelty?monospaced
- Scarabin, I'm sure there'll be a native steam app for it in future. Until then you can just hook up a Mac.NBQ00
- Then it seems like the next logical progression in headsetsscarabin
- inteliboy2
Looks insane to me. Can't wait to play games on an IMAX sized screen.... if could be arsed spending that ridiculous amount of money.
Design giving me big vibes of this though:
- drgs0
I am really curious to see how it works and I want to try it in real life, but I am definitely not interested in owning one
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- The thought of our future being in headsets is depressing as fuck but I'd really love to try these out and probably own them if I was a bit wealthier.HAYZ1LLLA
- I have 0.0000098% interest in this product.utopian
- can we all please discuss whether drgs is interested in owning one or not? I personally think he should get one.Ianbolton
- I'd love to try this out too. I have a Quest 2 that my company gave me and it's been collecting dust for months.mg33
- Not sure I'd want to own one (I can think of dozens of things I'd buy instead at that price) but what they've made is impressive as hell.mg33
- shapesalad-1
What happens when you want to scratch the side of your eye while wearing these things?
- yuekit9
2015...
- _niko6
Has anyone here actually enjoyed using a VR headset? beyond the novelty of it?
I used it a couple of times and it's kind of cool for like a minute, then you feel so weird that you don't know what's going on in your real surroundings. With a group of people it's even weirder.
You also want to be able to enjoy things as a family or a group, movies, video games etc...are we suppose to gear out the whole family for 20k just to look like a bunch of morons pretend swimming in our living rooms?
- But this is spatial computingNBQ00
- +1fadein11
- I have 4 headsets, the Oculus Rift S is pretty awesome, Half-Life: Alyx is sooo dope, but you need a really fast machine to run itYakuZoku
- I have 2 Quest 2's that I play with my daughter w/ .they suck in comparison, graphics be like "What Year Is It?"YakuZoku
- My Vive set up in the bar/hangout room, mirror on TV so everyone could see what the player sees, had a blast and got friends to try that never wanted.BabySnakes
- did that stuff cost 3.5K a piece?fadein11
- and that's extreme gaming, not general usage. I didn't see much promotion for playing games.formed
- I've only played with a nexus 5 in a cardboard VR set up (lol) and it made me feel intensely ill. I really want to try contemporary offerings.Nairn
- My best pal spends a % of his day in VR and he seems to love it. Take that how you will.Nairn
- yup, VR can be pretty dope but the good stuff aint cheapYakuZoku
- Quest is for kidsYakuZoku
- I've done some VR Arenas with friends. It's fun for an evening. People without Quake II experience get lost in VR was my take away.uan
- I got the quest pro. Not that far away from what apple showed...inv
- PSVR2 here and I love it. Yes it’s solo but the PS has output to tv so everyone can see what you’re falling into.MrT
- Also of note, PSVR2 was not well received at $5-600, so Apple is either arrogant AF or haven't read the room very well.MrT
- yeah exactly..autoflavour
- I've bought the cardboard one years ago for experimenting. VR is not for me, sorry. FFS! My priority is to spend fewer hours in front of the screens...OBBTKN
- Makes me motion sickdrgs
- Nairn2
Utopian's going to need to update his stock response to:
Innovation you can see, hear, and feel.
- autoflavour1
my take is this a legacy project from the whole Metaverse hullabaloo from last year but they already threw too much at it to just pull the pin..
this feels like a giant mistake on Apples behalf.. especially on that price point..
Also the whole USA first release thing is so 2007 .. I get it, your an American company but your a global brand..
for sure interested to try it, there is no way in hell will be buying ..
at almost $5300 Australian .. I would sooner be buying a new laptop..Also what's with that stupid battery pack?
- also further to that, our kids have been at us to get the PSVR2 for the PS5 .. and we haven't as the last thing they need is MORE screen time.autoflavour
- anyone know the time line of the homepod? vaguely recall it was a pet project of sorts and then without Jobs around (?) to axe or edit it, it became what it isSquiddy
- kinda agree with Autoflavor is what im sayingSquiddy
- maybe these could work as part of some immersive augmented experience gaming where groups of people play together and pay 29.99/ hour long game in some warehous_niko
- but at 3500 US a pop I don't see how these will fly as a consumer products, way too niche._niko
- 2 hours per battery pack, they'll be selling lots of battery packs if watching media is an intended use case for this device.BuddhaHat
- I think you can just plug it in too.monospaced
- that said, we have multiple home pods are they are awesome. we use them for everything from kitchen lights, turning off the internet for kids etc.. and musicautoflavour
- also not to be the devils advocate, but Macs and gaming are two words which don't often go well togetherautoflavour
- my 12 year old needed a laptop for high school and wanted a MacBook Air.. was so so hyped. then after he got it was so crestfallen when it realised it wasn'tautoflavour
- going to be the new gaming machine he anticipated.autoflavour
- 2 HOUR BATTERY PACK.. SO DUMBautoflavour
- Apple price anchors while developers create quality applications (medical, design, engineering). Autoflavour of your post aligns with their desired perceptionSlashPeckham
- In two years time it will lower prices and make far more off app subscriptions, events and contentSlashPeckham
- inteliboy0
Sounds cynical. Complaining about a battery pack.
In uni we'd do class projects, create video installations using flash or director (yea that long ago) - super rudimentary motion tracking + projection mapping stuff. It blew our minds on where the future was going and not once did we complain about the bulky G4 towers, the shitty 480p cameras and projectors, and everything cabled together.
Sometimes I gotta throwback and remember what it was like back then to enjoy gadgets and crazy new tech...
Sucks that the apple goggles are insanely expensive, but it's also cool to see one of the worlds biggest companies do something so nerdy.
Also on the price, it'll come down in a few years. But not sure by how much, as it makes sense considering it's a full blown M2 computer + the lenses, sensors, cameras and high-res 4k screens in one.
- I would hazard a guess that the required hardware will reduce as the software improves. A bit like how Tesla removed radar, and went to a visual system.slappy
- They will always be silly expensive, but it's a luxury brand. There will be an android version along in a minute and or a consumer ms hololens.slappy
- Maybe we don't need to be stuck in a VR/AR headset for more than two hours at a time. Can you plug it into the mains?Ianbolton
- NBQ00-2
- Not sure what's worse the product itself or youtube being flooded with tubers falling over themselves to find something to say about it, without even trying it.shapesalad
- PhanLo1
Tim Apple after convincing 82% of Americans to spend five paychecks on a pair of ski goggles
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- dibec4
I for one am stoked about this. Like anything new esp from Apple, the product line will develop and only improve. It’s definitely a high end media consumption device, but surely has some insane potential. I look at this way 83 inch LG OLED TV or Apple Vision Pro. Probably a more fair comparison.
- monospaced2
Final Cut Pro will be supported in Vision Pro at launch. There's an interesting creative use right out the gate, and not just gaming.
- A filmmaker can actually experience how it would feel in a theater, while editing. Pretty cool :)monospaced
- I actually think people are framing it as a VR, gaming, watching TV/film/porn but the “work” side of it could be epic. Even if a little sad where we’re goinghardhat
- Centigrade2
There are LOTs of use cases.
Patient 'distraction' in heath care is a good example.
– CT scanners where people get claustrophobic.
– EVERY kids dentist (and adults too!) is going to want one etc. etc.- Interesting. Have any existing headsets that have been around for several years been used for these use cases?monospaced
- My kid's dentist just has a 14" monitor on the wall and that is more than enough for most kids it seems ;)monospaced
- can't use them in a CT scanner... i mean the thing is a giant ass magnet...jonny_quest_lives
- "Man Dies of Gunshot Wound After MRI Scanner Pulls Weapon from Waistband During Mother's Procedure"jonny_quest_lives
- stop trying to make the Apple VR headset happen... they had no choice to release it spent too much money. corporate ego at this point...jonny_quest_lives
- sell them @ $999 and this would be an entirely different discussion but at nearly 2x the price point of an 8K 65" QLED TV... normies ain't buyingjonny_quest_lives
- autoflavour described it best below... too much money spent on R&D and tooling had to release it.. they may see what sticks...jonny_quest_lives
- A CT scanner is not an MRI machine.Centigrade
- if they were bold or believed in the space $999 price point but as it stands it's priced to fail unless you have a niche use casejonny_quest_lives
- Sony has sold 38.5 million PS5 consoles to date and has only sold 600,000 PS VR2 headsets at a price point of $549. VR is a niche product in any ecosystem.jonny_quest_lives
- dunno how Apple overcomes that at Three thousand four hundred ninety nine dollarsjonny_quest_lives
- sorry *Starting at $3499jonny_quest_lives
- Still can't have metal on you during a CT scan unless it's internal and even then you need to disclose at it effects the imaging...jonny_quest_lives
- CT is Xrays. The only thing metal is going to do it show up as opaque.monNom
- I want to meet the hospital insurance underwriter that will let you take a headset with a lithium battery back into an x-ray environment or MRI areajonny_quest_lives
- Microsoft has sold 300,000 units of its HoloLens headset since launch in 2015 https://www.microsof…jonny_quest_lives
- VR != ARaliastime
- @alias, acting like it's one or the other is silly. These would obviously do both and very well. Calm down. Of course they're for VR too.monospaced
- It's not like you look through them. Everything you see is a screen. It's 100% virtualmonospaced
