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- mekk3
Can't we just have some state of the art computer with a $1000 Apple tax? Sheesh why is it so overkill? Who tf pays six grand for a fucking display, I mean come on all we wanted was a 30" sized MacBook Pro display with a stand.
- ernexbcn1
4999 dollars in 2010 was a 12 core Mac Pro tower with 1TB of storage.
As I recall, the cheese grater (base model) were between 2-3 thousand USD.
I think it's a bit ridiculous the base model is now 5999 and comes with 256GB of storage. Even the iMac Pro comes with 1TB in the base model, plus a monitor and about 1K less.
- Signs your (sic) getting old thread.nb
- Innovation!utopian
- I thought cost wise it compares with PCs (minus apples ridiculous storage costs)?inteliboy
- I mean it's not "just an SSD", it's one of those that uses PCIe lanes to get ridiculous speeds, but I find 256GB way too lowernexbcn
- I'm surprised MacOS fits on that drive!zarkonite
- cannonball19785
I think I'm pretty much done with Apple. Custom PC with a nice BenQ display does it for me
- Yep. That's my new one: https://www.cirrus7.…SimonFFM
- What?! Comparing a PC workstation vs. an iMac Pro/Mac Pro 1/2grafician
- Here's the HP workstations for running Flame: https://zworkstation…grafician
- Top of the line HP costs $17k VS. iMac Pro maxed out $15k - the iMac has a better configuration at $2k lower price point. Don't kid yourself! 2/2grafician
- baffles me this is still a way of thinking. consumerist culture is a race to the cheapest shit possible.inteliboy
- @inteliboy What, ppl still thinking PC's are cheaper and ranting about Apple for their higher prices? lol, defgrafician
- @inteliboy even if Apple gives them for free, there will be lots of ppl that will rant about Apple not delivering them fast enuff or something else like that...grafician
- My Cirrus PC is a pretty decent thing. Fully silent due to passive cooling. It was pricey, too. I'm not anti Apple, their latest gear just didn't do it for me.SimonFFM
- I'm right there fucking with ya. Although I'd never do it, but Apple is missing the mark.davey_g
- hotroddy1
good bye trash can. hello cheese grater
- thumb_screws1
trypophobic nightmare
- I'm waiting for wasps to fly out of itthumb_screws
- It's funny, I have trypophobia, but manmade things don't bother me in the least. Only natural circular patterns.mg33
- Is it the symmetry of the man made stuff thats makes it ok?thumb_screws
- One of the ugliest computers I have ever seen.utopian
- rootlock0
I was thinking about getting a PC but then I started using sketch. Sadly not available for windows.
- inteliboy0
Anyone know of a good MP3 player/manager that works on a Mac and iOS?
Want to keep running my library of music, but without any cloud bullshit.
- Voxrootlock
- finder + quicklookshapesalad
- I run itunes without any cloud bullshit?Hayzilla
- +1 for VOX. You could even fuck with Plex and a home media server.ideaist
- deathboy0
so a decent build machine with a i9900K(8core) and 6GB ddr6 gpu - 32gb ram (PC4 25600) probably 1tb 970 probably set you back around 2K.
The available ram possible seems a bit of a joke to me. great on paper but how many slots you need for 32-64 Gb ram modules to max out? Very curious about pci lanes and architecture of the board. I have never needed xeons, not using software needing them, but curious about xeon architecture now because at face value i think those pci slots are likely wasted.
Absolutely surprised too if they go back to tower form they didnt try to coin some sort of liquid cooling system or even use one. I really wonder about heat issues on any max specc'd systems using more inline to todays specs and not aspirational 1.5TB of ram stuff.
- Are you complaining BEFORE buying one and using it to its full potential, or...? why care otherwise?!grafician
- to max the RAM you'd need the 24 or the 28 core plus filling the 12 slots with 128GB DIMMsernexbcn
- you didn't even account for the real use cases nor the special video processing hardware you CANNOT get anywhere else, at allmonospaced
- so there is 12 slots for ram? and a 128gb on new egg is about 13K... haha well leave it to those that its economically feasibledeathboy
- any info on the pci slots and how many lines are available to the processors including m.2 sata and what not?deathboy
- im not complaining as much as trying to sort out the layered consumerist apple machine. why would i have anything to complain about knowing? I know base specs ideathboy
- can do far cheaper for MY graphic work. i know ill never need xeons and i can always choose a x299 if i need more cores at a lesser pricedeathboy
- i just hate how apple sells to obsufucates what they sell. I think the real pros know hardware, and the fakes are priced out at this pointdeathboy
- can they sell enough base models after trash can to idiots is the question. Im leaning towards no. especially since visual look was a big sellerdeathboy
- and this i think will be hard to resonate with.deathboy
- mekk2
New Mac Pro going to be fast in some super weird setup that no one uses but still give you the gay wheel when opening up a fucking photoshop file.
Two cutters I know just recently switched from the old cheese grater to the 18 core iMac Pro and they say the difference in speed is not nearly what they paid for. Still sluggish with premiere etc.
Guess they will fall for it _another_ time and upgrade to their next gen shit and will be disappointed once again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But hey, their new display is cool as fuck, although no one will really need it. But still, cool as fuck with their independently calibrated LED's.
- Premiere is an issue because of Adobe as they mostly support Nvidia/ Cuda.NBQ00
- "gay wheel"? What fucking age are you?Poochie
- so Apple keeps on bitching how professional they are but don't even support the most basic of all basic industry standards. pathetic.mekk
- @Poochie I call this color ball a gaywheel, because of rainbow flag. Nothing offensive here :-) lots of love <3mekk
- might rename it to the ever spinning wheel of love?mekk
- Issues with Adobe are Adobe's fault. No matter how fast the Mac, Ps will always crash or do something weird, didn't u got used to it after all these years?grafician
- I'm not heavy using it on a mac so idcmekk
- I know entire studios that have countless real scenarios where they need this speed, and it's not remotely weird.monospaced
- gay wheel - ha hashapesalad
- Bennn2
These new display and the Mac Pro are for pros and businesses, knowing how long tech last, only a few years, investing all that money in these for an individual would be a very bad choice, unless that individual has lots of money to burn.
- Thanks Bennnnnnnnn!Ianbolton
- What kinds of "businesses" buy such hardware? I'm working in advertising for half of my life++ and never seen anything exceed eizos top tier lineup and the likemekk
- how long tech last? my macpro1,1 is over 10 yrs old and still going strong.hans_glib
- ^Gnash
- @mekk post-production, video editing, effects, sound studios, etc. - the Pro market - the guys with the moneys. Advertising barely affords top of the line iMacsgrafician
- I never understood how can someone use the same computer for over 10 years... But if it makes the job for you, goodBennn
- i guess i prefer to waste my money on wine, women and song, rather than shiny new tech that does exactly what the old tech did.hans_glib
- Well, then they'll continue to shed users. Pricing regular people out of products doesn't retain them.section_014
- pros i know (video post/pre, animation and sound editing) buy these things for representation and as a desktop extension for the specialized hardware :Dsted
- only bullshit artists need this type of stuff right now.sted
- broadcast monitors cost around 7k-20k+. pretty basic shit if you've ever dabbled in video. surprised this is even a question on qbn.inteliboy
- and they all rush out and buy apple now and enjoy genius bar support? Stuff is expensive because support and I don't see Apple leading here by farmekk
- It's upgradeable, supposedly. With all those PCI slots, it's kinda built to outlast it's own current tech. We'll see.monospaced
- @sted, you really need to come check out some of the cutting edge video boutiques around me, because they MORE than need this kind of machine.monospaced
- A twitter thread from a guy that handles Macs for the Pro industry: https://twitter.com/…grafician
- ^ from link: "tl;dr: The Mac Pro and display fill a large gap in Apple's professional product line. Prices are reasonable for the professional user....Gnash
- ".... If you want one at home, you are an idiot."Gnash
- Well, looks like they went all out! All out of everyone's fucking price range. Jesus fucking Christ, Apple!davey_g
- $900 is not bad for a monitor standGnash
- #Bennnsplanation of the day! LOL! Thanks, BennnKrassy
- This is my purposeBennn
- good for finance co's that are doing big data crunching.shapesalad
- @monospaced i'm not saying that there is no market for this product. if you don't have the option to just burn money on new hw in every yearsted
- apple hardware wasn't your choice.sted
- and i I think apple will be interesting again.sted
- @sted, you said anyone who needs this is a "bullshit artist" as if you couldn't even imagine a scenario. How was I supposed to interpret that nonsense?monospaced
- literally today I could USE this machine to crunch through 18 8k renders that we need for a bespoke projection mapping project going live on Thursdaymonospaced
- I guarantee it's not bullshit. We spent $12K to build an equivalent rig and it's made up of several machines and GPUs (none Mac). And it's probably slower.monospaced
- https://www.youtube.…
see NVIDIA Quadro server solution for video post production at 0:36 :) this was just 4k in 2016 :)sted - what i'm trying to explain that this is a good path but this hardware isn't forward looking as it should be, and i'm afraid that it won't inspire anythingsted
- sure it is ... but you are counting Afterburner, which is the secret weapon that not even NVIDIA is matchingmonospaced
- "... capable of handling up to three streams of 8K ProRes RAW or 12 streams of 4K ProRes RAW" FREEING UP the GPUs for processingmonospaced
- I can't imagine anyone anywhere that could possibly claim that isn't forward thinking or inspiring.monospaced
- nostalgia for sure :) ProRes RAW is like mov and this new machine is like the 2006 macpro with a more closed packaging.sted
- lol okmonospaced
- Mac Pro is for pro’s?
Bugger me.MrT
- sted3
fuckyou all @apple hardware
- yeah good luck with thaternexbcn
- lolshapesalad
- they will get back to this in 6 months when that macpro hardware will be average crap :Dsted
- This is more likely to make be buy the macMrT
- paging mono!utopian
- ?monospaced
- they look exactly how I'd imagineinteliboy
- That video smells like axe body spray.rootlock
- the talking potato makes a good point.. what it is its hard to tell over his mouth breathing and heavy sweatingautoflavour
- sted0
- This all-new, Apple-designed serif typeface is based on essential aspects of historical type styles and blablabla. download:
https://developer.ap…sted - Band wagon > JumpChimp
- Do not like.
Do not want.Continuity - stranger thingsdeathboy
- This all-new, Apple-designed serif typeface is based on essential aspects of historical type styles and blablabla. download:
- PhanLo0
James Jean got one.
- is it see or does the logo feel slightly too big?_niko
- James Jean who?NBQ00
- this guy: https://acclaimmag.c…_niko
- Mac Pro Pro.shapesalad
- Should have called it the "Mac Pro 2Advanced"shapesalad
- @NBQ00 Just one of the best living artists, no big deal.
https://www.instagra…PhanLo - Ah yes I know his stuff. Just didn't remember the name. But why does he have a new Mac Pro already?NBQ00
- @NBQ00 He did a bit of work promoting the iPad in the past, I wonder if they gave him one to try out? Lucky guy. :-)
https://www.youtube.…PhanLo - Those handles are total spaz.Nairn
- I wonder how long until knockoffs use the identical handle and foot design.monospaced
- Got those jandles from a handicap shower stall...robotron3k
- lol @ "one of the best living artists" #forgettableimbecile
- iGrater™Turboslacker
- you can buy those legs at ikeafuturefood
- @Imbecile, he's no Jony Ive, but I rate his painting.PhanLo
- is it just me but it doesn't look that good?Bennn
- This looks like it’s augmented?thumb_screws
- 1999 just called...they want their cluster fuck of cheese grater back.
NOW!utopian - LOOOOL @ Niko, I was like Wait, that's Janes DEAN..........elahon
- @Bennn - not just you.monNom
- you guys know that this is an AR filter right? you can point your iphone to your desk and place it https://www.apple.co…feel
- God that thing is ugly!formed
- Is this real?Hayoth
- @feel comin in with the real deal.robthelad
- @imbecile LOL
I had to look him up. And to think he's up there with Johns, Ruscha, Richter, Nauman, Stella, Baselitz...deadsperm - lol deadspermfadein11
- It used to be that you needed a retrospective at a major museum to earn that title, all you need now is to get featured on Hypebeast.
#signsyourgettinolddeadsperm - Amusingly, Jean's possibly on more walls of the young'uns than all those fogeys combined, with their inaccessible, navel- gazing twaddleNairn
- Live your truth!deadsperm
- Well, maybe not walls - mobiles and desktops though? I'd wage money on it.Nairn
- It don't really matter what matter what surface it's on. If we are to have a conversation we have to accept the common definitions of things.deadsperm
- In this case the institutional concept of art.
I might have a desktop wallpaper of a rad scooter kid that I think is the bomb...deadsperm - ... but I would never place that kid among the greatest living athletes like Jordan, Mays, Gretzky, Bolt, Williams.deadsperm
- ESKEMA6
This new Pro hardware has a lot of synergy going on with Apple being a Movie / Shows producer studio now.
- A point well observed and which is well made in it's nature.shapesalad
- hmm true. the timing is certainly right for them to get back into the pro market.inteliboy
- ernexbcn1
Regarding the James Jean photo, I think they have augmented reality 3D models of the computer at Apple's website you can open with Safari on iPhone and take a photo of the thing placed virtually.
- link it's at the end of the page
https://www.apple.co…ernexbcn - I reckon you're right, Popay also posted a pic https://www.instagra…PhanLo
- well it just says "open this page with safari on iphone or ipad" I guess just opening that page you get an optionernexbcn
- link it's at the end of the page