Nokia + Microsolf
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- Boz0
LOL.. this was a coup.. makes you wonder whether or not Nokia's board of directors are all blind or just plain imbeciles.
I'll say this.. I didn't expect this type of smart move by Ballmer considering he's a class A retard.
even though it comes from an Apple guy I can't say I disagree..
Microsoft Buys Nokia for $0B
http://www.appleoutsider.com/201…
- lukus_W20
Apparently a similar thing happened to SGI. Their CEO came on board (to MS) after SGI became a stagnant ex-leader of their field, and the IP rights to a lot of graphics technologies eventually passed over to MS (which were later used as key Xbox technologies).
The 'partnership' announcement:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspa…The results of the union:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/200…
- raf0
- formed0
Technically, MS could buy Nokia with the cash it has. That would seem to be a wonderful purchase.
I'd buy MS stock if that were to happen. I'd like to see one phone made well. All these billion options of Android phones that does 90% well, but missing the 10% of gloss detail Apple puts in is just annoying (I want to like them, I really do, but they make too many to get one just perfect, imho).
This should be entertaining to watch. I hope MS does buy them out. It would be a breath of fresh air of competition.
- Why buy the cow when they're getting the milk for free?ETM
- Boz0
Intesting piece of information from one of the people posting about this:
"Until yesterday Nokia and Microsoft were competitors. That's the thing that makes it unethical. As such it's not suprising that former MS EVP has lots of MS stocks. He should have sold them before taking the helm at Nokia.
For people who want to go all tinfoil; remember the rumour from two weeks ago. That Nokia's largest american owners forced the Elop nomination (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01... The really tinfoil part is that Nokia's 2nd largest institutional owner (Fidelity Management & Research) is also Microsoft's 7th largest institutional owner.
- formed0
How were they competitors? One makes hardware, phones, one makes software, and a few misc. pieces. I don't see any conflict.
Big business is as much about politics as anything else in life. There are people forced in and out all the time, obviously with particular interests in mind.
If you want to look at conspiracy, look at how is on the board for most of these large tech companies.
- Boz0
The only problem i have with this is that Nokia got scammed.. Microsoft basically took over the company for $0b.
This is the end of Nokia as it was before.. Microsoft will destroy them. They will take everything they can from Nokia and just suck them dry until they can merge them completely into Microsoft.
Nokia makes fantastic hardware. I used them most of my life in Europe.. there is no other manufacturer that made hardware like they do..
I hate what happened here..and it is basically a forced takeover because major investors in Microsoft are major investors in Nokia and they basically opened the doors for Microsoft to come in and take over Nokia..
- seems a little dramatic. Nokia was going to die...by their own hand.monkeyshine
- formed0
Nokia is where it is at because of the leadership - they did not keep up with the markets. Any company that falls behind will either die or get taken over/bought.
If Nokia was on top of things, then they would not be in this position.
Peripherally, this looks good to me:
Nokia - solid history, just got caught off guard, good quality
MS - soso implementation and execution of many products, lacks any 'sex' appeal
Seems like a pretty good matchup.
- their partnership makes absolutely no sense in terms of what Nokia needs.. Microsoft on the other hand needs Nokia desperately because their Windows Phone 7 is turning out to be another KIN.Boz
- desperately because their Windows Phone 7 is turning out to be another KIN.Boz
- But Nokia is dead, no? Besides cheap phones they have no upper endformed
- - WP7 does this, as far as I can seeformed
- 3030
@Boz
Elop is CEO and it doesn't mean that Nokia has been taken over or scammed. Elop can be replaced just as his predecessor was.
- ernexbcn0
Nokia needed to do something quickly or experience a slow death.
The only bad news I see here is that there might not be a Nokia Windows Phone 7 device this year, and that's not good.
- raf0
Nokia's phone design was always the most defensive out there. Their phones lost any traces of distinction many years ago and turned into "appeal to all and no one" kind of generic oem path. They were masterpieces of non-design, just like most Japanese cars to this day.
Their phones were always considered the easiest to use. Little they knew how they were about to be proven wrong.
I actually was about to buy an E61 when iPhone came to save the day. Can you imagine, this was the best smartphone on the market just 4 years ago? It had a proper browser and all...
I am laughing at myself and thanking I didn't drop the money on it back then.
- They had a few models that became classics but this was a long time ago.raf
- 6310i303
- wow. 8 buttons not including the keyboard. piss poor design right here.inteliboy
- Good point, I remember when their handsets used to be really varied and clever. Then they all began to look the sameanimatedgif
- abettertomorrow0
Microkia (Nokosoft?) will come out with an amazing, fully functional smartphone just as smartphones become obsolete.
- Boz0
I think that Microsoft will milk Nokia's marketshare, patents and everything they can get their hands on. The next step is to fully integrate Nokia into Microsoft (aka kill it as they would have taken every piece of technology Nokia has) and eventually either build their own Microsoft hardware division for phones using Nokia's capabilities or just use Nokia's numerous patents.
That Apple Outsider guy has a very valid point.. Microsoft realized they can't be Google and Android, but they realized that they can apply Apple/Xbox Live model to the phones and Windows Phone 7.. this is where Nokia comes in for them.
- formed0
Exactly. And what's wrong with that? Apple has full control over their products (control to absurdity, really), but this helps them deliver a quality and consistent product.
If MS can accomplish it, which won't be a small feat, it'll be great for the market places. WP7 is a great start. If they can get some good designer's and then produce it then we have a winner.
I am not holding my breath for anything, but I'll enjoy watching.
Might even pick up some MS stock since everyone here wants to dump it! Ha.
- MSFT had full control over Zune and it failedabettertomorrow
- monkeyshine0
^ this...I agree. Apparently part of the deal involves Nokia being able to customize the UI. That worries me a little.
- ernexbcn0
Well, today we learned that Microsoft is paying Nokia billions of dollars for the privilege of having Nokia develop WP7 phones:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/a…
And it seems Google was bidding too, but Microsoft won.
- Boz0
Well if that turns out that way that would be good thing for Nokia.. but I suspect having MS guy running the US market and major shareholder (Elop) holding the worldwide Nokia.. I have a feeling Microsoft will merge Nokia long before they pay any billions to them.
and formed.. Microsoft doesn't have the vision, leadership or expertise to make this happen.. it's more likely going to be that they will destroy Nokia in the process and still fail, then anything else.
They adopt too slow to the market and as always they try to buy off market share instead of deserving it and in that process they destroy other companies they try to gain marketshare through.