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  • zaq4

    • No. No it isn't. Qasim has conflated two things that aren't comparable or interchangeable and has used 'let them eat cake' in an incorrect way.Morning_star
    • Must be true, it got lots of likesGnash
    • What is true is that our government is geared toward helping people with more money....and everyone knows itdkoblesky
    • 1.7T does more good in the hands of 45 million people than 600 billionaires, unquestionably.i_monk
  • shapesalad3

    Artur Virgílio Alves Reis (Lisbon, 8 September 1896 – 9 June 1955)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al…

    Rather than faff with trying to forge bank notes, he simply forged the letter the Portuguese central bank would send to the bank note printers in England, and had all the money sent to him personally.

    Genius.

  • AQUTE0

  • imbecile8

    • Lobbying works. They figured out the formula to control govt. I doubt that will change in my lifetime.formed
    • eat the richakiersky
  • PhanLo1

    • From the guy who founded "Whole Check" a grocery store for the wealthy elite. This guy is taking out both sides of his mouth.utopian
    • This is really good PhanLocherub
    • It's a win win win system apparently. This guy keeps saying he's studied socialism, but every example he mentions is communism.PhanLo
  • yuekit4

    • Ben Garisson taking a sharp turn to the left post Trump..yuekit
    • Is this the same neo-con alt right wing comic artist?utopian
    • Yep same guy but he changed nowyuekit
    • You sure he isn’t being sarcastic?NBQ00
    • “Don't believe everything you read on the Internet” — Abraham Lincolnpalimpsest
    • Surely thing can't be a real Ben Garrison thing.Continuity
    • Surely this*
      Fuck, I need to stop trying to communicate before having my first cup of coffee.
      Continuity
    • Where is the hidden stiff penis?pango
    • By definition it is hidden.palimpsest
    • waldo's supposed to be hidden. he was still found.pango
    • Logic checks out. I haven't looked for it, it's still hidden for me. Have you found it?palimpsest
    • Nopepango
  • yuekit3

    • "FIELD", "SKY".
      This is how it's done!
      palimpsest
    • I think he’s being overly sarcastic in this one?NBQ00
    • Nah, this one's fake.Continuity
    • Garrison wouldn't know how to be sarcastic even if you paid him substantial sums of money to be so.Continuity
    • They are both fake.
      It's funny how everything needs to pointed out. Both for his public and the QBN public.
      palimpsest
    • Anyone found the hidden penis yet?pango
    • Glovenb
    • oh bobomonospaced
    • I think a Bennnsplanation is needed.
      This is funny because it uses BG's name and style for a message that goes against what he stands for.
      palimpsest
    • It's like posting a Jeff Tiedrich tweet praising Trump.
      Hope that helps.
      palimpsest
    • Why is it called a football? It’s not ball and neither is it kicked.Chimp
    • Asking the though questions.
      It is a ball and it is kicked.
      palimpsest
    • I thought maybe he was overly sarcastic because it features communism, Marx, LGBTQ & BLM all in one over the top.NBQ00
    • He's too short-sighted for that type of reasoning.palimpsest
  • NBQ000

  • i_monk0
  • i_monk1

    Workers in India last week launched a general strike that brought out an estimated 250 million people, arguably the largest in human history. Now, they’re joining hands with farmers to protest Narendra Modi’s pro-corporate, far-right agenda.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/…

    Hayoth they're coming for you:

    • Those are communist flags, to be clear.i_monk
    • well, you learn from your own mistakes. not from mistakes of others.hotroddy
    • yeah but... 'nobody has ever properly attempted communism', hotroddy
      *giggle
      PonyBoy
    • the irony is i_monk posted about buying a pimped up barbque . it was developed and financed by an apple executive. he was so stoked to have purchased it.hotroddy
    • something you could only develop in capitalist americahotroddy
    • Is that irony?i_monk
    • This is you: https://i.redd.it/wh…i_monk
    • ^the road to hell is paved with good intentions.hotroddy
    • yes, it's irony and I was trying to be nice. I don't want your bbq to leave a bad taste by calling it hypocrisy.hotroddy
    • I wonder how many cubans can afford that bbq?hotroddy
    • How many Americans can afford it?i_monk
    • You may be overestimating the weight your opinion carries, btw.i_monk
    • I will go out on a limb and say many Americans can afford it. For the same reason the whole world now have smart phone.hotroddy
    • ...developed, enginneered and created for the american market place which is the most lucrative in the world.hotroddy
    • does a cuban have the capital to A) develop it? and B) a market place to sell it inhotroddy
    • Shopify became the biggest company in socialist canada ONLY because of it's access to American capital and businesseshotroddy
    • I will go out on a limb and say a third of Americans couldn't afford it.i_monk
    • I will also go out on a limb to say the 60 year embargo on Cuba should be the first consideration in any comparison of Cuba and capitalism.i_monk
    • I don't have to go out on a limb to say Canada isn't socialist.i_monk
    • cuba is the only true remaining communist country left. Which is why I compare it. Like all former communist countries, they are dying to go capitalisthotroddy
    • but USA embargo won't let them unless there is a transition of power from an oppressive authoritarian regime to a fully democratic state.hotroddy
    • so thanks to the 'embargo' they remain communist and poorhotroddy
    • venezuela in contrast didn't have an embargo, and had the highest oil revenues in countries history for 20 years. Look at it now. 5 million people have fledhotroddy
    • it's nice to talk fantasy, discuss how everyone will live, rich and happy under communism. and communist blame the system for it's failure..hotroddy
    • ..when in reality it's the individual that is flawed. which is why it will never work in practicehotroddy
    • Where does this flaw go when capitalism is the status quo? Miraculously cured?i_monk
    • Why isn't capitalism condemned when capitalist economies/countries implode? Why isn't widespread poverty in the richest capitalist countries taken as evidencei_monk
    • of deep flaws?i_monk
    • Venezuela may not have been embargoed but it was sanctioned, Bush attempted a coup in 2002, etc. US has been fucking with Latin America for a century.i_monk
    • You cheer on iphones and bbqs, but who put the first satellite and man in orbit? And when the US followed, wasn't it Nasa not a private capitalist?i_monk
    • How many trillions of the global capitalist economy come directly from state-funded research in public universities?i_monk
    • US has been helping Latin America by getting rid of all the dictators. Example: Panama is way better off today after removing a drug smuggler from power in 89hotroddy
    • They tried to do the same for Venezuela in 2002 but unfortunately failed. Look at it today. Sanctions started in 2019.hotroddy
    • USA funded Chavez's revolution for 15 years by buying their over priced shitty oil.hotroddy
    • Venezuela is modern mad max. No security, no local currency, nothing to eat. no electricity, no water. They are worse than any country on African continenthotroddy
    • China still buys their oil and the only argument they have is from ol' cuban handbook: 'USA sanctions' is the reason we live like animals and have nothinghotroddy
    • Ironic you'd post on a day when reddit proved "the market will correct itself" is a lie sold to poor people.i_monk
    • not sure what that is and a little off topic but ok.hotroddy
  • palimpsest-1

    Communism has failed in every country it's been tried in. Meanwhile, capitalism has been a success.
    Discuss.

    • I think from perspective of communists, they would argue that communism hasn't actually been achieved yet.yuekit
    • ^ true that. I would add that China hasn't failed, as a matter of fact it's lifted more people out of poverty in a shorter period of time than anyone ever.zarkonite
    • "it is easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism"palimpsest
    • The goal of never ending growth is the end of the world.PhanLo
    • big C communism and small C capitalism, its a trapppp!kingsteven
    • It was.
      Capitalism never comes into question.
      palimpsest
    • The Correct answer was: capitalism is not a success. One point for the Red team.
      :D
      palimpsest
    • When Chinese economy surpasses USA, does that mean socialism won?yuekit
    • Yes, it wins the capitalist game.
      My point was:
      If we can see the benefits & failings of one we should be able to see those of the other.
      palimpsest
    • Love people who try to use real-world examples of this as if capitalism or communism has ever existed anywhere other than a textbook. Lulz.nb
    • Cool that y’all paid attention in high school, though!nb
    • Wake up sheeple!palimpsest
    • chinese had to shift away from communism/socialism to capitalism to lift everyone out of poverty.hotroddy
    • under socialism they were all starving which is why there is a culture of eating rats, bats and turtles today.hotroddy
    • a communist will always tell you that communism hasn't been achieved. A communist would rather starve than to admit communism failed.hotroddy
    • @hotroddy the eating dogs and cats actually came from feudalism and sieges on towns. In some places they ate their own babies.PhanLo
    • China's economy is government controlled, that does not sound like capitalism to me.palimpsest
    • Great Leap Forward caused the biggest famine in China's history. They had to resort to eating filthy animals.hotroddy
    • China's success today is because of the capitalists principals that have shaped their economy.hotroddy
    • Yes, the gov't controls everything but underlying policies are capitalists in nature.hotroddy
    • What I'm saying is according their ideology what they had in the USSR etc wasn't communism. They considered it socialism (which explains the name).yuekit
    • Communism is this utopian society they will achieve in the distant future once technology has eliminated scarcity and other problems (including government)yuekit
    • Of course you could certainly question where they are getting this idea from...a lot of things about Marxism sound like a religion to me.yuekit
    • What about eating squirrels?PhanLo
    • I don't think Marx predicted squirrel eating. He was kind of hit or miss in his predictionsyuekit
    • @hotroddy
      If China is failing at Communism (i.e.: Communism not achieved), in your opinion what further measures should it take to achieve Communism?
      palimpsest
    • What is the right path towards Communism?palimpsest
    • I don't think Marx said anything at all about agrarian societies adopting socialism. He said it would be a natural development from developed industrial nationsi_monk
  • NBQ000

    • It will be. And after covid's wake of unemployment and homes lost, which we haven't begun to see, it will be on everyone's mind.formed
  • utopian0

    U.S. Billionaires Gained $1 Trillion Since The Pandemic Started

    American billionaires haven't been just immune to the pandemic, they have been thriving in it, drastically increasing their collective wealth. An analysis by Chuck Collins at the Institute for Policy Studies found that American billionaires have seen their wealth grow by $1 trillion since March of this year - more than 34 percent. That was not the case during the 2008 financial crisis when it took Forbes' 400 richest people three years to recoup their losses from the Great Recession. Collins' findings highlight a wealth gain by a mere 650 individuals that seems obscene at a time when nearly 7 million Americans are at risk of eviction when moratoriums expire at the end of the year.

    There are 650 billionaires on the list, out of which 47 are new arrivals with 11 dropping out due to death or financial decline. There were numerous impressive financial gains among notable billionaires on the list with Jeff Bezos growing his fortune by $69.4 billion between March 17 and November 24. The Amazon boss and richest man on the planet is now worth $182.4 billion. The most impressive gain on the list was recorded by Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk who has seen his fortune experience a meteoric rise. In the above period, his weath surged a whopping 414 percent, climbing from "just" $24.6 billion to $126.2 billion, making him the world's second richest man after Bezos.

    Illustrating the gulf in financial inequality in the U.S. today, the analysis states that U.S. billionaires own $4 trillion, 3.5 percent of all privately held wealth in the country. Billionaire wealth is now twice the amount of wealth held by the bottom 50 percent of all American households combined, approximately 160 million people.

    https://www.statista.com/chart/2…

    • I'm no billionaire, but some of the stocks I trade are up 340% since spring. How the rich get richer, 3x your money by two mouse clicks.shapesalad
    • Unfortunately I de-risked and sold too early and missed he majority of the % increase.shapesalad
    • Most people do not own stocks. The market doesn't care about 'financial inequalities' or 'fairness'.formed
    • If stocks are the only way to get ahead doesn't that tell you the system is broken?i_monk
    • and for those that have been around since the dotcom bust, this will destroy plenty of people when we do, inevitably, crashformed
    • but sure, I am happy w my stocks and grateful I have them, but most don'tformed
    • It’s not like the dotcom era though. Until you can show that it is your assessment is a steaming pile of uninformed shit and should be treated as such.monospaced
    • This is more like the 80s when we had strong economic growth and a bear market. It might go down but this is nothing like a bubble.monospaced
    • *bullmonospaced
  • utopian2

    • Oldie but a goldie.PhanLo
    • Fake News Utopian™Hayoth
    • Anything to reinforce his own communist fascist beliefs.Hayoth
    • Shouldn’t you be armed, picketing at an abortion clinic with your MGTOW incel gang?monospaced
    • "communist fascist" hahahahai_monk
    • da fuk with his eye lolBennn
  • NBQ00-1

  • nb2

    Look nearly everyone is open to suggestions on what could be a better economic system than what we have now.

    We’re all ears. Let us know when you think of something. In the meantime, let’s spend all our energy helping those less fortunate than ourselves.

    • Like most things in life, it's about a balance. We'll need basic income for everyone soon enough.formed
    • MMT12xu
    • The current system discourages helping the less fortunate, in fact rewards screwing them over.i_monk
  • imbecile5

    • It's called capitalism...ask Deathboy.utopian
    • I got my airline stocks for sure. Lots of them. Because I’m not a deathboy. And now I have more money. THAT is capitalizing.monospaced
    • Greed is good!utopian
    • Keep gloating while 100,000+ have lost their jobs, stay classy!utopian
    • The two aren’t related asshole.monospaced
    • Or are you actually pretending I should avoid the market out of sympathy for those affected by the global pandemic?monospaced
    • no, he is saying you are a piece of shit for investing in stocks that make profit through bailout money and job cuts.imbecile
    • As if stock prices never rise when the new CEO culls the workforce to balance the books.i_monk
    • mono you sound like you bought every stock in existance and are a billionaire.NBQ00
    • Blood diamonds.palimpsest
    • A government bailout is literally the opposite of capitalism, and good for mono. We're under no obligation to suffer while the wealthy prosper.IRNlun6
    • A government that only helps those with capital is still capitalist. The government is not regulating the market it's propping capitalism.palimpsest
    • If that's what y'all want it's your prerogative. But we should at least call it what it is.palimpsest
    • so, he IS saying I shouldn't have invested in airline stocks when they hit bottom, out of sympathy for those affected by this. Got it.monospaced
    • No, it doesn't make me a piece of shit. I lost money too, and my life was affected. Airlines are going up on GOOD NEWS dudes. I'm smart to profit.monospaced
    • @NBQ, a couple grand here, a couple there. I'm NOT rich, but I do make good investments on sound research. Everyone I know does this. EVERYONEmonospaced
    • My profit isn't causing anyone's strife. Acting like it does just shows your ignorance and bitterness for missing out.monospaced
  • PhanLo7

  • PhanLo3

    • Hmm when you put it that way..._niko
    • Funny how so many have been tricked into thinking working long hours is good.Chimp
  • NBQ001

    Jeff Bezos approaching $200 Billion net worth.

    Happy weekend.

    • Post $200B net worth you no longer have to wipe your own ass... apparently, so I'm told.shapesalad
    • obscene and grotesqueutopian
    • It's fine, $200b is such a large value representation for 1 man to hold, that it becomes unspendable when the masses no longer recognise $ as a store of value.shapesalad
    • what happens to that money if, god forbid, something happens to him and his heirs?rzu-rzu