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Out of context: Reply #630

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    Workers in India last week launched a general strike that brought out an estimated 250 million people, arguably the largest in human history. Now, they’re joining hands with farmers to protest Narendra Modi’s pro-corporate, far-right agenda.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/…

    Hayoth they're coming for you:

    • Those are communist flags, to be clear.i_monk
    • well, you learn from your own mistakes. not from mistakes of others.hotroddy
    • yeah but... 'nobody has ever properly attempted communism', hotroddy
      *giggle
      PonyBoy
    • the irony is i_monk posted about buying a pimped up barbque . it was developed and financed by an apple executive. he was so stoked to have purchased it.hotroddy
    • something you could only develop in capitalist americahotroddy
    • Is that irony?i_monk
    • This is you: https://i.redd.it/wh…i_monk
    • ^the road to hell is paved with good intentions.hotroddy
    • yes, it's irony and I was trying to be nice. I don't want your bbq to leave a bad taste by calling it hypocrisy.hotroddy
    • I wonder how many cubans can afford that bbq?hotroddy
    • How many Americans can afford it?i_monk
    • You may be overestimating the weight your opinion carries, btw.i_monk
    • I will go out on a limb and say many Americans can afford it. For the same reason the whole world now have smart phone.hotroddy
    • ...developed, enginneered and created for the american market place which is the most lucrative in the world.hotroddy
    • does a cuban have the capital to A) develop it? and B) a market place to sell it inhotroddy
    • Shopify became the biggest company in socialist canada ONLY because of it's access to American capital and businesseshotroddy
    • I will go out on a limb and say a third of Americans couldn't afford it.i_monk
    • I will also go out on a limb to say the 60 year embargo on Cuba should be the first consideration in any comparison of Cuba and capitalism.i_monk
    • I don't have to go out on a limb to say Canada isn't socialist.i_monk
    • cuba is the only true remaining communist country left. Which is why I compare it. Like all former communist countries, they are dying to go capitalisthotroddy
    • but USA embargo won't let them unless there is a transition of power from an oppressive authoritarian regime to a fully democratic state.hotroddy
    • so thanks to the 'embargo' they remain communist and poorhotroddy
    • venezuela in contrast didn't have an embargo, and had the highest oil revenues in countries history for 20 years. Look at it now. 5 million people have fledhotroddy
    • it's nice to talk fantasy, discuss how everyone will live, rich and happy under communism. and communist blame the system for it's failure..hotroddy
    • ..when in reality it's the individual that is flawed. which is why it will never work in practicehotroddy
    • Where does this flaw go when capitalism is the status quo? Miraculously cured?i_monk
    • Why isn't capitalism condemned when capitalist economies/countries implode? Why isn't widespread poverty in the richest capitalist countries taken as evidencei_monk
    • of deep flaws?i_monk
    • Venezuela may not have been embargoed but it was sanctioned, Bush attempted a coup in 2002, etc. US has been fucking with Latin America for a century.i_monk
    • You cheer on iphones and bbqs, but who put the first satellite and man in orbit? And when the US followed, wasn't it Nasa not a private capitalist?i_monk
    • How many trillions of the global capitalist economy come directly from state-funded research in public universities?i_monk
    • US has been helping Latin America by getting rid of all the dictators. Example: Panama is way better off today after removing a drug smuggler from power in 89hotroddy
    • They tried to do the same for Venezuela in 2002 but unfortunately failed. Look at it today. Sanctions started in 2019.hotroddy
    • USA funded Chavez's revolution for 15 years by buying their over priced shitty oil.hotroddy
    • Venezuela is modern mad max. No security, no local currency, nothing to eat. no electricity, no water. They are worse than any country on African continenthotroddy
    • China still buys their oil and the only argument they have is from ol' cuban handbook: 'USA sanctions' is the reason we live like animals and have nothinghotroddy
    • Ironic you'd post on a day when reddit proved "the market will correct itself" is a lie sold to poor people.i_monk
    • not sure what that is and a little off topic but ok.hotroddy

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