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    Communism has failed in every country it's been tried in. Meanwhile, capitalism has been a success.
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    • I think from perspective of communists, they would argue that communism hasn't actually been achieved yet.yuekit
    • ^ true that. I would add that China hasn't failed, as a matter of fact it's lifted more people out of poverty in a shorter period of time than anyone ever.zarkonite
    • "it is easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism"palimpsest
    • The goal of never ending growth is the end of the world.PhanLo
    • big C communism and small C capitalism, its a trapppp!kingsteven
    • It was.
      Capitalism never comes into question.      palimpsest
    • The Correct answer was: capitalism is not a success. One point for the Red team.
      :D      palimpsest
    • When Chinese economy surpasses USA, does that mean socialism won?yuekit
    • Yes, it wins the capitalist game.
      My point was:
      If we can see the benefits & failings of one we should be able to see those of the other.      palimpsest
    • Love people who try to use real-world examples of this as if capitalism or communism has ever existed anywhere other than a textbook. Lulz.
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    • Cool that y’all paid attention in high school, though!
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    • Wake up sheeple!palimpsest
    • chinese had to shift away from communism/socialism to capitalism to lift everyone out of poverty.hotroddy
    • under socialism they were all starving which is why there is a culture of eating rats, bats and turtles today.hotroddy
    • a communist will always tell you that communism hasn't been achieved. A communist would rather starve than to admit communism failed.hotroddy
    • @hotroddy the eating dogs and cats actually came from feudalism and sieges on towns. In some places they ate their own babies.PhanLo
    • China's economy is government controlled, that does not sound like capitalism to me.palimpsest
    • Great Leap Forward caused the biggest famine in China's history. They had to resort to eating filthy animals.hotroddy
    • China's success today is because of the capitalists principals that have shaped their economy.hotroddy
    • Yes, the gov't controls everything but underlying policies are capitalists in nature.hotroddy
    • What I'm saying is according their ideology what they had in the USSR etc wasn't communism. They considered it socialism (which explains the name).yuekit
    • Communism is this utopian society they will achieve in the distant future once technology has eliminated scarcity and other problems (including government)yuekit
    • Of course you could certainly question where they are getting this idea from...a lot of things about Marxism sound like a religion to me.yuekit
    • What about eating squirrels?PhanLo
    • I don't think Marx predicted squirrel eating. He was kind of hit or miss in his predictionsyuekit
    • @hotroddy
      If China is failing at Communism (i.e.: Communism not achieved), in your opinion what further measures should it take to achieve Communism?      palimpsest
    • What is the right path towards Communism?palimpsest
    • I don't think Marx said anything at all about agrarian societies adopting socialism. He said it would be a natural development from developed industrial nationsi_monk
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