FUCK ADOBE!
FUCK ADOBE!
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- i_monk2
InDesign's Master pages have been renamed "Parent".
It's about time Adobe came out as anti-slavery; I really wasn't sure where they stood.
- Anyone who doesn’t upgrade is a fucking racistGnash
- WOKEshapesalad
- lol @gnashnb
- lol commentsutopian
- omfg master isn’t just a slavery thing ffsmonospaced
- Next up we won’t have masters degrees.monospaced
- ^ already begunGnash
- Parent is offensive to couples who can't have babiesdrgs
- Can I say I mastered a skill?monospaced
- Parent to the rhythmbabydick
- Parentbating just doesn’t sound kosherscarabin
- *parentbates furiously*scarabin
- I subbed a softwareoey_oey
- They should just call it Child Abuser right?i_monk
- Aren't we all Adobe's slaves?MrT
- children, we're the childrenmonospaced
- ayport4
So this sucks...
January 2023: Adobe applications will not recognize the presence of Type 1 fonts, even if you have Type 1 fonts installed in your desktop operating system.
https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/kb…
Does anybody have a good conversion tool they would recommend?
- Someone going to make a boat-load of money converting and or selling modified Type 1 fonts to conform with Adobe's 2023 New World Order initiative.utopian
- Oh crapGnash
- how and why are you still even using type 1 fonts?doesnotexist
- I’ve been doing this a long time. My font library is massive, and many of my archived jobs use t1Gnash
- Why could they not just grandfather in Type 1?hardhat
- i have a massive archive as well, and honestly i'm over it. fonts are dumb. it doesn't matter. nothing matters. [sign out]doesnotexist
- bummer... unfortunately most of the younger designers i work with use google fonts or dafont anyway. just sucks cuz my library of fonts has saved me a few timesjonny_quest_lives
- might have to buy an open type avant garde nowjonny_quest_lives
- i was joking with dafont btw... mostly google fonts and adobe typekit fonts are what get passed around work nowadays.jonny_quest_lives
- clients tend to pucker when you discuss licensing fonts for end usage so commercial free to use out the box it is for nowjonny_quest_lives
- But those don't work on Mac anyway, right?grafician
- All fonts work on Macs.monospaced
- I am currently using around 20 fonts, besides those arranged by company (clients).maquito
- Most of those I have carried for many years, and have been slightly fine-tuned; mainly kerning.maquito
- Doesnotexist, woah! Been a minute since I’ve seen your name here. Or maybe it’s been a minute since I paid attention. Anyway. Sup?lvl_13
- shapesalad6
I wish in Illustrator you could 'export' as a PDF, instead of having to save as a PDF, which gets really annoying when you still have it open, edit it, hit save.... then later open the AI file to see the edits are not there, because you were editing the PDF.
Yeah confusing and annoying as I want the PDF as an exported output format from my master AI file. I don't want to 'convert' my ai file to PDF and continue working in a PDF file.
- oh..ok.. export for screens after making a pdf preset.shapesalad
- affinity designer will do this, just sayinghans_glib
- I have made a habit of saving twice, once as pdf for export, then again for the ai file. Just roll in the pdf export dialogue from InDesign, for fuck's sake.face_melter
- THIS!!!!!!monospaced
- "Save a Copy" in File menu!fyoucher1
- 'Export for screens' will export each artboard as a single PDF. FFS.... no multipage option.shapesalad
- This drives me mental. Illustrator is just a mess to be fair. Why have mesh options which put my 3 year old Mac on its knees?Ianbolton
- Why have smart guides and inferencing if they don't mean shit? Click on the edge to start, go back to zoom in and it's pixels off. WTF?monospaced
- Don't tell me "Center" or "Anchor" if it's not 100% true. Close isn't gonna cut it.monospaced
- check snap to pixel is off. but yeah, total shite. maths behind it all is dodgy.shapesalad
- Fuck snap to pixel too. What a crock of shit that is.monospaced
- Yeah, Snap to pixel is a shit default. I turn that off every time.CyBrainX
- In Illustrator, just save a copy for PDFs. Export screens if you want a multipage PDF from artboards. Those methods have been working for me for years.CyBrainX
- Bennn3
Adobe CC is getting slower and slower on both my machines at work and home. Sucking so much power... Lots of temporary freezing when I open or close programs etc.
I still use Adobe CS4 at work and its SUPER quick and fast. Opening Photoshop CS4 take 3,5 seconds...
We always want to be up to date, but using older versions with recent computers = so much speed, its crazy!
- yep, same here. Illy was downright painful to use yesterday after living in Sketch the past couple of monthsakiersky
- Opening Illustrator CC = 1min 17sec ... Fuck that!Bennn
- Opening InDesign CC = 46sec ... fuck thatBennn
- and Acrobat Pro, the last version, is a real pain to use. They've moved everything. Suuuuuper heavy and slow to use.Bennn
- get a macGnash
- don't even get me started on quitting timesmonospaced
- yeah, Acrobat Pro has been a pain to relearn...for what? I fail to see the improvement.formed
- We have shit iMacs and CC programs take a few secs to open. But ya, total rip.Hayoth
- its 78$/month in Canadian dollars... 1000$/year! FFSBennn
- If apps are taking up to and over a minute to open you want to take a look at the machine, the software is fine.face_melter
- Activated fonts can cause slow loading alsoHayoth
- I use Sketch nowadays..the makers are from my city!!!!sureshot
- Maybe this is their response to Apple dropping Flash?Ianbolton
- Probably is a broken font issue, however Adobe is part of the NSA program.rosko_picachu
- sounds like a crap computerinteliboy
- _niko4
Spacebar hand tool stopped working in illustrator. Went on adobe support forum to see what was up.
Adobe’s suggested fix:Restart chrome.
It worked. fml
- wutprophetone
- https://i.kym-cdn.co…Gnash
- Since Chrome went black it's been having weird shits on me (Mojave + a Wacom). I bet CC19 is a dream if it's the only thing running on a new machine...MrT
- RIP wat lady.ideaist
- Yup. This has been known to happen since they added Flash-based palettes in an older CS version. Supposedly palettes are now HTML based, but who knows?evilpeacock
- Once had to quit safari to fix it.monospaced
- Chrome causes some bugs with PS too. If PS is open in the background, on occasion Chrome won't show the hand tool for links on websites. It's a weird one!Centigrade
- weirdGnash
- yeah, it's like the Finder, Adobe and Browsers are all fighting for control over the UI simultaneously which causes thismonospaced
- Re: Mr. T - Yeh, Mojave and Wacom is all kinds of crap. From accidental double clicks, not being able to release selection in AE -- all stems from Chrome.fyoucher1
- Bennn10
Photoshop online, totally free
> https://www.photopea.com/- Thats crazy even works on android :) thx!helloeatbreathedrive
- future!api
- i_monk4
Who asked for this? The people I'm sending these files to don't have Creative Cloud and aren't going to sign up for Adobe accounts (or whatever hoops) to 'review' the final files. Fuck off Adobe.
- Eventually you will only be able to save to the cloud.hydro74
- "Anyone can comment without an account"evilpeacock
- ...but I'd still never use it.evilpeacock
- "Maybe later"... Maybe never!shapesalad
- Still assumes "review" and a dogshit workflow. Job starts in email, then goes through adobe?i_monk
- Resistance is futile BUT I too hate that Adobe perceive ‘share for review’ to be a better way. I’ve used it with tech savvy clients BUT folks want a .pdf.ideaist
- Adobe should just integrate with email and “share” should just export the pdf and make the attachment in a new email.monospaced
- Creative teams could get approval internally with it. Could it really be that much worse than something like Wrike? I'd love to stop using pile of manure.CyBrainX
- utopian2
I just received my annual subscription increase via email. So once again, I will have call some person who barely speaks English at one of Adobe's off-shore call centers (India) and tell them that I'm canceling myself subscription...so that I can continue getting my subscription at my existing price. Fuck you Adobe for making me do this every year.
The 20 minute phone call with Adobe always ends like this.
"Great news Mr. Michael, I just spoke with my manager and we are going to upgrade your subscription at the existing price...thank you for being a valuable customer of Adobe, good day sir."
- What you don't see is he gives you the middle finger like in "Wolf of Wall Street" and then hangs up.NBQ00
- live chat, it takes 5 mins topsfadein11
- "Great News Mr Fadein" I will try live chat!!!utopian
- I might employ this system with my clients, just bill them for more. No mention of it. If they pay, they pay. If they realise, then call me - customer service,shapesalad
- and i'll give the the rate originally agreed. if only 1 out of 10 clients pays the increased amount, it's worth it.shapesalad
- it's called inflation utopian. That's what happens when you print money to pay for all your shit.hotroddy
- Everybody is increasing their prices. Shopify subscriptions jumped by 40%.hotroddy
- You dont even have to talk to anyone. Right through the website you can cancel, keep cancelling until you get the "ok dont go, here is our final offer to stay"ArmandoEstrada
- Just did it. Saving $120 a year. Every little bit counts!hotroddy
- We our need ChatGPT: to fill in our time for us here.Nairn
- Why didn't you pay the full asking pricing Hotknobby? Your hands must be really tired from all that begging...you welfare commie socialist pig. Get a job moran!utopian
- not a commie but a freelancer and Adobe is overhead. If I was a commie I wouldn't be able to afford it.hotroddy
- sounds like you're just trying to get a handout while everyone else pulls up their bootstraps, like welfare scummonospaced
- handout out by a corporation? QBNer's displaying their fine American education.hotroddy
- If Adobe is so readily giving out large discounts, then they themselves know the product is not worth as much as they charge.ETM
- And for some, can be easily replaced with the right motivation. I'm not a creative anymore, and the discount is the only reason I'm not all in Affinity yet.ETM
- fadein114
Okay, we all know the threatening to cancel subscription gets you the reduced rate.
But this year I got the best yet.
Was going up from around £30 (discounted) to £54 a month.
I have just secured £19 a month all app package (best deal I've had yet).
A 5 minute live chat, they don't even try to argue.
Good start to the day, if you are a freelancer, do it.- I was thinking of trying it but I thought I'm happy enough with just paying half for it. but hey congrats, because for me that's what's it's actually worth.oey_oey
- sorry for the "that's what's it's..." :-)
I would only update/upgrade every three years so if you divide the yearly cost by three you'll have +-20€/monthoey_oey - yeah you've got a good deal anyway, mine was going from £30ish to £54 a month. But it's this really low deal that got me excited :)fadein11
- can you do it mid cycle? I'm on £54 till may!shapesalad
- Don't think I have done it mid cycle before, just when the discount ends.fadein11
- ah bummer.... well i might try when i get a quiet moment, see if mid cycle works.shapesalad
- Yes, $19 is the lowest they will go. I had that before cancelling last year, now this year back to $60 or so, kind reminder to call them again for the new dealgrafician
- ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFLsted
- @fadein11 nice one, thanks :)sted
- Why does Adobe make one haggle each and every year for a reduced discount?utopian
- Because love the beggars?:D It's like a club, some make it a hobby to talk to the support once a year.You can get creative like grafician when the $:£ is 1:1sted
- @sted Adobe keeps the same price offer, they just change the currencygrafician
- didnt even have to speak to anyone this year, just did cancel and followed the steps past the threat of a cancellation fee - 30 a month. bo! took 2 minswoowahesque
- PhanLo5
- Real?nb
- Pantone want US$21/month for access, and Solid Coated goes behind the paywall in early November.PhanLo
- https://twitter.com/…PhanLo
- Thank god I work only in digital and not print. Print shops just got screwed, and with inflation + energy prices...shapesalad
- @shape word!grafician
- not entirely sure how print shops got screwed if anything it does break color management for postscript devices with pantone librariesjonny_quest_lives
- pantone color is abstract on press it's just an extra unit on press. often the color is a specialty ink mixed inhouse at the press facility anywayjonny_quest_lives
- if anything set up fees and dialog gets a bit murkier with your print vendor but you can name your 5th color or varnishes whatever you want.jonny_quest_lives
- will probably pay the licensing fee just to avoid the headache of "dropped colors" when sending proofs through to our Epson Proofing systemjonny_quest_lives
- Yet another reason to move over to Affinity's products.Continuity
- sab6
Fuggin Adobe and Pantone! Just saw a notice in InDesign pop up stating "Some Pantone colours may no longer be available due to changes in Pantone’s licensing with Adobe".
Apparently we now need to fork out an extra $60 a year (to Pantone) to fuggin access the Pantone colour library in Adobe products.
Further info says... "Pantone’s licensing with Adobe was adjusted. Due to this change, customers will need to purchase Pantone Connect licenses to access Pantone colors in Adobe Creative Cloud products."
Wow! Fugg those khents!
- How was that a good decision for Pantone and Adobe? Surly it was in both parties interest to come to an agreement.shapesalad
- so if we have the Pantone swatches IRL we can't pick colors 'cuz Adobe CS doesn't have the colors anymore?!
Unrealgrafician - Wut? Just make a spot colour swatch, call it whatever it is in the book and the printer will do itsausages
- that's a DTP hack, not a "feature" in 2022 in the main apps for fucking design
Adobe is openly adversarial to its users now!grafician - Not a hack. If you spec your Pantones from Adobe swatches on screen and not a book you're doing it wrong.sausages
- LOL
And I suppose Adobe isn't reducing its pricing by 60/yr to compensate? Fuck them.Continuity - ^ this ofcgrafician
- Yeah, this is shit. Hard to believe it's not entirely megaCorp Adobe's fault, although given how much Pantone branding I'm seeing on landfill tchotchke...Nairn
- ...perhaps Pantone's business model's fairly fucked. Quite why there isn't a viable OS equivalent for coordinated colour specs, I don't know.Nairn
- bklyndroobeki0
Why does AE have to be so difficult to learn
- it can do a lot of things, like magic?
where do you have difficulties?uan - try learning nuke!mugwart
- agreed, bklynmonospaced
- coming from flash AE was easymoldero
- I haven't used it loads and certainly not power user stuff but I found it okay to jump into but I did have a Flash background which may have helped a bit.fadein11
- It's like photoshop with a timeline and better plugins?zarkonite
- took a lynda.com tutorial this weekend. and it was so overwhelming. will use it each day for a month and report back.bklyndroobeki
- Just figure out the timeline, keyframes, easing, mattes, and the main tools. A lot of the rest is like Photoshop and you should catch on quickly.fyoucher1
- I'd suggest setting (or getting) a little brief, have something to aim for and learn that way. To just learn the software is overwhelming.MrT
- I guess 7years of flash did give me one thing that will last... A hand up in AE.freakpelican
- If you're familiar with Photoshop, most of AE is already a given. If you also know Flash, you have a basic knowledge of keyframing and timing.CyBrainX
- HA! Good luck figuring out easing!!!! :/Projectile
- it can do a lot of things, like magic?
- face_melter5
Ding Dong. The buggy, bollock-brained, bastard bongo 3D bitch is dead.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photosho…
Thank fuck.
I'm guessing they will just disable it instead of ripping it out, replace OpenGL with DX and not bother to do any long-term testing then watch as everything goes on fucking fire.
- So confused. They’re doing a good thing but still fuck them forever of course.MrT
- ^I’m so...MrT
- I'm struggling to understand why 3D printing from Photoshop was ever considered a relevant use case in the first place.Nairn
- Never add the new 'toy' tools in adobe stuff to your workflows - they never invest in it properly and pull it after a couple years.shapesalad
- Adobe Muse anyone?shapesalad
- I tried working with Photoshop 3D recently and it was completely unusable. Adobe Dimensions is a lot better and worth looking into for basic 3D compositing.CyBrainX
- I liked Muse. Built my wedding site with it.monospaced
- Based on my semi-recent experiments with 3D type in PS, I'd say this should have happened sooner and saved me the headache!evilpeacock
- shapesalad4
Most updated app in history:
- Every time I open this app...shapesalad
- Wrong...Adobe Flash WAS the most updated LOLgrafician
- In the mobile realm, Evernote updated so often, I stopped using it years ago.CyBrainX
- yeah graf but we actually asked for and used Flash : )MrT
- checks browser version*kaiyohtee
- I have it disabled and kill it as soon as it rears it little, pox-ridden, head when I open a CC app.face_melter
- Nah, Signal is the king of constant updates.zarkonite
- @MrT You meant the Macromedia Flash which was a marvel of tech, not the junk Adobe onegrafician
- @graf I think so, but I just want to make pickled onions.MrT
- Bluejam3
- could it get any simpler? Next it'll just be P, X, A etc for the names. Then next version, just single colour blocks....shapesalad
- and finally invisible icons... and you just got to feel it to open photoshop. Will it to open.shapesalad
- Those Acrobat icons tho'grafician
- Acrobat doesn't care to fit into this World. Acrobat do his own shit.Bennn
- I find these refreshing, BUT I only have Ai, Id & Ps...
...MAYBE a touch thick typographically.ideaist - put icons in this order: Br Ai Ae Ps to spell Braiaeps.shapesalad
- It's growing on me. Kinda like it better than current ones.NBQ00
- Looks terrible next to non Adobe icons IMO. Harder to make out esp in dark mode.yuekit
- dreamweaver has always been green, why fuck with it?_niko
- So they’re cutting extraneous shit from the icons but adding it to the apps. Nice.MrT
- Unless there is some sort of new style guide from Apple, why are they changing the icons every six months anyway? I didn't mind the last ones.yuekit
- My theory is that the Acrobat icons are like that to please Windows users. Windows icons are square right? There you have it!grafician
- misterhow0
Command+S then Command+W for years and years and years. Now Illustrator feels like it needs to tell me this:
Why?
- it's the save queue, it isn't new lol.
u get this window when the system still writes the file on the disk and you hit close.sted - haha, this has been driving me nuts too - I presume my behaviour's not changed afer 2 decades of Illy use, so the extra click required here is a novel additionNairn
- Heh, same here, never saw this before.fyoucher1
- It should just go away if you ignore it, but no. It needs to to confirm that you have seen the message that you must wait for 2 seconds. ffsProjectile
- its a noo feachur, get over ithans_glib
- I see this now too. Clearly it takes longer to save files now across all apps!monospaced
- Clearly it's an additional, new behaviour.Nairn
- @mono you rarely get this window with source files under 1g, or a busy hdd. and yeah something is up with the write-out, because it takes longer for small filessted
- Where's my 'Don't show me this again' checkbox?!misterhow
- Who the fuck is Dani?CALLES
- ^ I'm just glad it wasn't my erotic_friend_fictio... filemisterhow
- Adobe file bloat. The 2GB file which should really only be 200kb.fyoucher1
- @sted, it happens to me with files fall smaller than 1GB, and i have a fast machinemonospaced
- Most of the files I use are titchy - I just received this helpful notice on a file weighing around 140kb that I was saving and quitting.Nairn
- It can take longer with the newer background save feature, so you'll see this dialog more if you quit a lot and save honking complex or big files.evilpeacock
- Preferences > File Handling & Clipboard > Uncheck "Save in Background" boxrefunktion
- I use InDesign primarily, and edit linked files from AI, PS and ID regularly. This box has made things quite frustrating, and not just on big files.monospaced
- Doesn’t this only happen when you’re quitting at the same time? That’s the only time it pops of for meGnash
- In the old days you couldn’t quit until it was done savingGnash
- Nope, on file close, Gnash.Nairn
- Odd, hadn’t noticedGnash
- it's the save queue, it isn't new lol.
- utopian4
Does anyone know how to import a vector object (aka - logos) into Photoshop that will scale appropriately at 100% both width & height? Every time that I import a vector logo into a Photoshop document the W/H aspect ratio by default is always wrong.
- yeah, click the "link" icon between the percentages and type 100% into one of them. Should update accordingly.monospaced
- Copy/Paste as Smart Object? I can't recall suffering your problem, so perhaps it's some glitch with your install?Nairn
- Just to get the obvious out of the way - you're not on a new version and defaulting to the old habit of hitting shift whilst scaling to maintain ratio?Nairn
- is it actually importing at the wrong ratio? That is a very weird thing to happen - there must be something f'd with the logo file. Have you opened it in illy?Gnash
- if not, perhaps you've placed into a layer or object that was skewed alreadyGnash
- happens to me as well. I don't get it. I just hit the link and change to 100%lvl_13
- what fucking low-life troll moron downvoted this, you fucking helmet!utopian
- This had been happening on every version of Adobe PS and IL for years. I simple import the vector object and I get the wrong aspect ratio without even touchingutopian
- the vector, moving it, etc...annoying as fuck.utopian
- Maybe it’s snapping to a pixel and can’t actually get a perfect ratio?monospaced
- This is like when Illustrator will add 1-2 pixels to any file dimensions, ex: exporting 1080x1080px for instagram will give you 1082x1080px just to fuck with ugrafician
- Drives me fucking MAD!davey_g
- @grafician, to fix the issue of illustrator adding pixels, make sure your artboards lie exactly on a pixel, and not a half pixel. Then it works on export!monospaced
- @mono: I manually input the sizes when creating a document, the sizes are ok when working - then 1-2 pixels more on export - randomly! :))grafician
- like i said ... if you want to avoid the extra 1-2 pixels, ensure your artboard is aligned on the ruler to an exact pixel and isn't at a fraction of one.monospaced
- oey_oey4
I actively use Bridge. It's the Adobe App that I use most.
- For what?i_monk
- Great softwarenb
- It’s literally a bridge to my creative soulnb
- I always liked Bridge a lot. When I switched to Windows a few years ago I loved it even more because previewing on Windows is quite lame in comparison.CyBrainX
- I use it too for reviewing huge archives of creative assets. It is a CPU hog if you leave it open in the background 'tho.evilpeacock
- Why don't people get Bridge? Bridge is excellent. I don't understand using PS, AI and ID without Bridge.jagara
- It's a viewer/organizer of big projects, and libraries of creative assets. And it has rudimentary PS features like rotating, cropping.jagara
- And the tagging feature is great.jagara
- for those on Windows and miss the 'space to preview' delight on Macs, get 'QuickLook' - a great replacement. works with pretty much any file inc. audio/video.face_melter
- The previews have an awesome pin feature, so you can have an image above everything else and use it as a reference. great for 3D work.face_melter
- We know ;)jagara
- i_monk4
I deliberately launch Bridge maybe once a year, but accidentally once a week.
- I don't remember installing it or even using itnbq
- handy to browse disks. batch editing names and previewing AE presets.uan
- Only when reviewing photoshoots due to os x insisting on side scrolling decent sized thumbnails in the finder - occasional colour profile syncs toosausages
- Yes same!sab
- i actually quite like bridge. as a file browser.pango
- Bridge is great, but stay on the oldest version possible - newer ones run like ass. ass filled with dead asses and concrete.face_melter
- ben982
Adobe Plans to Make You Pay for Photoshop's AI Features, Even if You Have a Subscription
- wtfYakuZoku
- "Generative Fill, Generative Expand, Text to Image, (and) Generative Recolor" will each require 1 credit. Along with the standard "Plans are subject to change"YakuZoku
- caveat, the site also confusingly states, "Usage rates may vary." Users who license all Creative Cloud apps will have 1,000 free credits each monthYakuZoku
- ^ " " from the articleYakuZoku
- Starting November 1, 2023: 1 credit*sted
- PAY TO WIN MICRO TRANSACTIONS! NICE!dopepope
- Anyone fancy starting a food truck?MrT
- slowly working on it for the last two years, MrTimbecile
- I’m into a food truck for sure.monospaced
- New Document: PLEASE INSERT COINSsandpipe
- Coming in 2024: pay per undo.5timuli