FUCK ADOBE!
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- kingsteven3
Jaysus, the bastards just charged me £119 for an Adobe Xd subscription on an account i haven't used in 5 years... not even an email to say it was coming.
What the fuck even is Xd? Had to recover the password, log in, now trying to get customer service to reverse it. Madness.
- That's basically stealing :))grafician
- got them to cancel by showing them i had full CC subscription on another account. i can't think how that happened, i don't even have Xd installed!kingsteven
- An unused, 5 year old account had a valid CC on file?ETM
- Even weirder is that for years XD (and Bridge) have been free if you're not paying for a sub.evilpeacock
- recently they made XD paid so they will charge, close up any account you used in the pastgrafician
- @evil XD was in beta for free and now they activated the payments for that toografician
- also beware, you can't save and open local files anymore, basically if you don't pay adobe, you can't access your XD projects in the cloud nowgrafician
- hah yeah ETM, expires later this year. Had CC on that account but switched to work account 5 years ago... that explains it with XD then. Feckin' cowboys Ted.kingsteven
- They're breaking their own revenue record every year. 12B last year. They need money to put bread on the table y'know.Bennn
- Figures. I missed any communications on XD going paid, but expected it eventually. I never set it up on a free account anyway.evilpeacock
- there is no more free with Adobe! they want a CC on file with any new "free" accountgrafician
- You most definitely save and open files locally...Gucci
- zombee4
I'M GOING TO FUCKING SMASH ILLUSTRATOR!
Anyone now how to turn off the fucking annoying as shit customisable toolbar? At every moment, I find myself trying to find the required tool as they mysteriously disappear and/or change position.
If Adobe's aim is to infuriate their users, then congrats you have succeeded with flying colours.
- And why is there about five different ways to do one simple task? It's bloated and overly complicated. Smashing it though, would mean you're smashing...Ianbolton
- your probably fine and working computer!Ianbolton
- Increasing monthly costs for decreased productivity = progress.ideaist
- ooh, customisable, eh? Does that mean I can finally move the never-used 'Isolate Selected Object' away from the much-used 'Select Similar Objects' button?!Nairn
- @zombee; sorted this out:
1. Hit the 3 dots / "Edit Toolbar".
2. In the top right you'll see the "menu" icon. Hit that.
3. Choose "Basic" OR you can "Reset".ideaist - Cheers Ideaist, lifesaver!zombee
- Thnaks IdeaistHayzilla
- NBQ000
This is pretty cool
- Would be good as a part of AE. I had to do some of these recently, it wasn't as fast as that.PhanLo
- Flash?OBBTKN
- but will the white horse disappear?ArchitectofFate
- Plugins for AE exist for this already. However, this incorporates AI to select objects in depth for 3D plates. Really nice.fyoucher1
- The difference seems ease of use & speed. As well as in many cases it generates some kind of 3D mapping, not just 2d parallax.NBQ00
- it's ok for a quick gimmicky effect, but for the best results you need to photoshop it into layers, paint in background, animate in AE or camera map in C4Dshapesalad
- #deathofthemotiondes...shapesalad
- the reflections on the rotating cliff though...imbecile
- the rocks at the end are stuck to the tableimbecile
- @shapesalad, indeed! Almost like it generates some kind of lowres projection mesh. Areas near object borders problematic for the algrtmseldon
- Handy if it will let you export the textured mesh. Matching this stuff by hand in 3d is a pain!monNom
- Gnash2
Another 40% off Adobe Creative Cloud for 1 year — promo — Until August 27 2018
- is this only for new members?Hayoth
- why would they offer it to existing members. they already have you as customer.hotroddy
- http://www.connect50…hotroddy
- Not seeing it on their site.ETM
- i saw it on here:
https://www.creative…Gnash - I just re-upped for a year last week. I wonder if they will give me this deal if I call back.desmo
- I've just contacted support, yes cancell your current sub & renew with a 40% off.helloeatbreathedrive
- thanks @Gnashhelloeatbreathedrive
- sweet!!BabySnakes
- what happens to your typekit access codes if you cancel and sign up? You have to reinstall new codes for your sites?hotroddy
- ^ not sure about thatGnash
- No deal showing up on signup from Canada.ETM
- perhaps it's an EU thing only? there was a NA one recentlyGnash
- utopian8
Adobe is raising their monthly price to $79- per user in July.
Fuck you Adobe!
- nb1
Just please keep in mind that Adobe is privately planning to make ALL YOUR FILES inaccessible in the future unless you pay whatever fees they want to charge.
This is the business value of Adobe Creative Cloud. It’s not to sell you convenience, it is designed so that Adobe will own the rights to the access of whatever you create on their platform.
It’s your fault if you fall for it. I wouldn’t use Adobe for anything that I care about long-term. For dumb client work or my employer, who cares. But for my own work, I’m trying to stay the fuck away from Adobe.
Sadly, I use a plug-in that requires Lightroom so for now I’m stuck there. But at least photographs, once complete, can live off the platform forever.
- Source: I know PMs at Adobenb
- all your files are already inaccessible unless you pay for CC currently. it's only a surprise to anyone who has been blindly walking in to it for a decadekingsteven
- PS allows local file saving, right? You can use an old version of PS, right? I'm talking about the future state where there are no local files.nb
- Figma did this. Designers love Figma but Figma has provided a free tier, forever. One of the reasons why everyone is so mad about Adobe buying Figmanb
- It's one thing to sign up to a cloud service and accept the terms upfront, IS QUITE ANOTHER to retroactively lose access to legacy files going back decades!grafician
- ah, to be young againkingsteven
- I never save anything in CC, always local. This post doesn't make any sense.formed
- Eventually they will not allow you to save a local file. That’s the point.nb
- I'm just going to focus on trading for the next 10 years, rather than a design 'career'. If I focus on design, i'll end up penniless competing with AI.shapesalad
- trying real hard to make something sound dystopian. don't use adobe because you won't be able to access your files, use software that wont exist in 20 yearskingsteven
- unless it gets bought by adobe. i spent a day setting up a win 98 install to open a cakewalk 5 session last week. there is no absolution from obsoletionkingsteven
- it's funny imagining myself in 40 years talking to the wind, coercing a pervasive A.I. to create an A2 hologram of a gig poster i designed in 2008kingsteven
- i worked as a flash developer for a decade, i might as well put "2004 - 2014 Cared for a dying relative" on my CV, you've just got to let these things gokingsteven
- I don't believe Adobe will prevent you from saving locally.CyBrainX
- Hahahahaaha bookmark this thread Cybrain! Mark my wordsnb
- "...not allow you to save a local file"... so that's it then - no more PSD, AI, INDD... it'll all be .Cloud files, no sharing, collab'ing or saving your files?prophetone
- Good luck retaining your already-taxed CC user base b/c that model succeeds only if everyone in design industry gets on board, works in CC cloud onlyprophetone
- ...and w/ all eggs in the cloud server basket: benefits of local high spec machine diminished, network lag issues, files exposed = no privacy, hacks, bugs, fun!prophetone
- "ClientFlyer-V1-fina... cannot be opened at this time due to unusually high traffic volume, network issues. Please try again later."prophetone
- Where is this "no longer able to save locally"? That sounds absurd to me. Most software requires a license to connect these days, but that has nothing to doformed
- with the files themselves. Autodesk does this and is far, far more restrictive (now they are truly absurd and 1000x the cost).formed
- it's nonsense, he even gives figma as an example which i think is a great way of doing things and has a local save option in the feckin file menu.kingsteven
- tbh all my work is in Adobe cloud or Dropbox for 10 years and I've been paying ~1k a year to adobe since 2004. I can't open anything without the softwarekingsteven
- so what does it matter as long as i can archive it locallykingsteven
- Adobe did it cuz Autodesk did itgrafician
- Everything is subscription now. We can't escape it. Hell, even Apple wants you to lease their phones.formed
- jonny_quest_lives6
Metallic Overprints are sexy... as are Fluorescent bump plates and neither Pantone nor Adobe can change that. Ink on paper when done well will always look miraculous. Fuck Adobe and Pantone. Shout out to all the old print heads. This move just makes us all magical Wizards with our prepress alchemy from a bygone era.
- Yupmonospaced
- Yep, a little more difficult for plastics, fabrics, etc. Just makes the job of the designer even more crucialnb
- nb0
Feels like these folks making digital directories of Pantone colors don’t really understand how Pantone colors work.
Or they do, maybe, but a digital directory doesn’t really solve this new licensing issue in any way. Are they just lashing out? A fuck you to Pantone?
I don’t get it
- i never liked the whole elitist pantone crap, the pantone branding and marketing, it's just a colour swatch, let's not get a big ego over it.shapesalad
- But can you use something like Freetone to pick a color, send to a printer and get that ink for your printed work?CyBrainX
- Forgive my ignorance. I haven't worked in print in decades.CyBrainX
- I *think* these are just color swatches that have same name (and “color”) as Pantone ones, so if you use them and open an old file they will be used in placehardhat
- technically pantone's IP only covers their index because they all contain "PANTONE" there have been indexes like this for open source software for yearskingsteven
- i think you just remove the word 'pantone' and don't distribute it with the software and hey prestokingsteven
- Elitism? Huh? It’s just designers trying to get the color right. Without a swatch book or chips, it’s all a waste of timenb
- Why don’t Adobe just buy Pantone and be done with it? Corporate fuckstains, the pair of them.Ianbolton
- Fuck Adobe. Gouging us all with this subscription bullshit and now they’re pissed about others companies following in their footsteps. Fuck emnb
- my wife said "these fucks need to work it out between them and leave us out of it."whatthefunk
- Fuck Pantone!aliastime
- ideaist2
Attempting to open a .png in the latest, "greatest" release of Adobe Photoshop:
"Could not complete your request because of a program error."
"OK" or "Learn How To Fix" are my options...
...https://helpx.adobe.com/photo... is the article it's linked to.
FUCK ADOBE!
- A 166 KB .png file!!!
GAHHH!!!ideaist - Open it in a browser, copy it and then create a new document and paste it in. I get that with the odd .jpg that it's slightly corrupt. Or need a restart.PhanLo
- PS can't open files with improper extensions either. On macOS if you open an image with a wrong extension in Preview and save, it'll fix the filename.evilpeacock
- change the extension from .png to .jpgshapesalad
- I can't even open a .psd I opened pre this latest update... GAHHH!!!ideaist
- I betcha Affinity will open that PSD right up.monNom
- Adobe= bloated softwarei_was
- @monNom Looks cool, raster/vector in on e program, gonna try it.i_was
- I uninstalled, installed older version, updated and BOOM today it's working. WTF?!ideaist
- A 166 KB .png file!!!
- Ianbolton5
This week I've had nothing but crashes from both InDesign and Photoshop. Just installed the latest update for InDesign and now the CC Libraries tab has no scroll function, even after a full system restart. These are basic GUI bugs which are really fucking me off now as I have a massive job to complete this week.
Just mouthing off as I'm frustrated. FUCK YOU ADOBE!!
- And now Illustrator has crashed.Ianbolton
- are you on the latest macOS?
i was getting CC crashes until i updated, the 2021 set of CC apps are flakely as fuckBluejam - Feel it started after I did the OS update, but I have all the latest Adobe appsIanbolton
- Are you on an M1 Mac? If so, there's a pre-release available for InDesign that solved all of the issues I was encountering.josh909
- dkoblesky1
I am sure they could make enough money if they priced them reasonably. But they clearly want to own your entire online toolset and so they just make their user base mad and drive them to other options.
If they priced them reasonably I would have PS, AI and AE....but I just have AE and have learned GIMP and Inkscape, as well as Audacity....because fuck off I don't want all your garbage. I dont want XD and Aero and whatever the fuck what do you think I do...just learn new tools all day so you can sell me new ones?
I am sure that their numbers show a pie that is 90% PS, AI, AE and then alllll the rest...
The way they sell is offensive because they present you with this option: WE WANT TO OWN ALL YOUR ONLINE TOOLS.....oh, alright you can have just one at HALF the price of the whole set....arent you stupid
fuck off Adobe.
Other than AE, I am doing fine. And you know what, if it came down to it, I would figure out what to do without AE if I had to.
- Just use free trails and Little Snitch to block the softwares communicating with Adobe server?shapesalad
- get Affinity instead of Gimp?! Inkscape?! Common man lolgrafician
- LOL. Affinity is pixel and vector?dkoblesky
- Yeah lolgrafician
- lets hope someone somewhere is working on an ae alternative.hans_glib
- keep the Gimp, it may come in handy.futurefood
- Bring back Freehand!faxion
- @hans_glib If you don't mind learning node editing Resolve can replace AE for most use cases.zarkonite
- nb2
Those pricing plans, tho
- paying a for storage.hotroddy
- Nope. The PS+LR +1TB plan is $19.99/monb
- Adobe will gift you 900GB of cloud storage plus pay you $1 per month to own Lightroom.nb
- aDobE pHoTo PhOp 2020 +Bennn
- jee just pirate it all. no updates, everything works flawlessly.helloeatbreathedrive
- lol. in that case it doesn't makes sensehotroddy
- I pay a little above that for the entire suiteGnash
- @Gnash How??nb
- I reached out 2 weeks ago and said it’s too expensive. Asked if they could offer a deal of some kind. First offer was $29/month PLUS 3-months free (12 month)Gnash
- yep, I have done the same, a little more than that but whole suite for not far off half normal price.fadein11
- plash2
- I learned this before I learned flash... this was my first introduction to anything interactive (even before HTML)... so many DVDs burnt back in the day <3PonyBoy
- This was so futur back in the day. I loved messing around with it.Chimp
- ^ yep, me too. That and Authorware.fyoucher1
- The best. This and Visual Basic beforehand.ideaist
- It was so much fun!Bennn
- Lingo!ok_not_ok
- BusterBoy0
My wife is a teacher - has an Adobe CC account. She's getting charged A$43.99/month at the moment. On their site, the first 12 months is $21.99/month.
Anyone deleted an account and then restarted on a new one before?
- I gather they have some BS in their T&C's saying you can't do this?BusterBoy
- adobe really are the new mafia. scammy cuntshans_glib
- I just re-signed up $29- month for full CC suite.utopian
- call, complain, ask to cancel, close account - then they come back with a 30% off offer.shapesalad
- no better than a shitty phone company.hans_glib
- what shape said. try this:
https://www.qbn.com/…Gnash - Yeah, contact and complain - I did last year and got the full suite for 3p more than what I'd previously paid for two apps (PS & Illy)Nairn
- She's being overcharged. Students and teachers get 60% off. It's only $19.99 a month for the entire suite. https://www.adobe.co…monospaced
- Then it goes to $29.99/month after the first year. That's not too shabby, and if it's really for school, it shouldn't have to come out of her pocket.monospaced
- Download the torrent, crack and keygen, and also download the app that kills the connection in the back. And voila.Maaku
- If its for work, make the company pay for it.Maaku
- buy affinity and stick it to adobehans_glib
- misterhow2
I'm looking for a MUSE alternative. I know some of you hated it and thought it was junky but some of you loved it for the same reasons that I did. I used it. I loved it. I can't download/use it now due to the way my company is doing licensing...soooo do you guys have anything similar that you'd recommend?
Mono? Others?
- I don't have an alternative. Muse was excellent, and it's really frustrating they got rid of it without a viable replacement.monospaced
- Webflow?grafician
- hmm, Framer X? maybe even Google Web Designer.zarkonite
- Thanks. I will check them out.misterhow
- https://blocsapp.com…exador1
- readymag.comshapesalad
- mathinc1
What bullshit. FUCK YOU ADOBE.
- Shit colour, computer says no.pedromendez
- check appearanceshapesalad
- i've never gotten the hang of using the eyedropper that wayGnash
- lol.. it's a cardboard box btw. Shit color, agreed.mathinc
- double-hit that white!Gnash
- +1 ss. Appearance - have you got a new fill above your character colour?MrT
- double click the eyedropper tool and check your settingsdeathboy
- Live text is handled differently. Select /Highlight the type with the type tool and add a fill.Centigrade
- So far ^ is the only way to do it. Which sucks. If you have two separate text objects you have to select into one, change themathinc
- color. Then select into the second and set that color. You used to be able to just select all text objects, eyedrop and change it.mathinc
- shapesalad2
CorelDRAW™ 2019
For the adobe sub haters, one off payment £599.99
- hmmm, you had a go with it? It used to be absolute cack.MrT
- how is this company still around? I haven't seen anyone use it since mid 90's wordperfect.hotroddy
- It's still used extensively in the clothing and garment industry, particularly for things like embroidery, right?Centigrade
- It's the software of choice for most companies doing laser-cutting, vinyl work, and a load of print advertising.Nairn
- I’ve never seen any mention of this and I work with print vendors, laser cutters and vinyl installers every week.monospaced
- *sigh* I'm sure, mono - as with myself and the companies I deal with, but believe me there's a whole iceberg-like mass of businesses who use Corel.Nairn
- perhaps I should have written "many" rather than "most" elsewise I encounter your own opinionated correction.Nairn
- I believe you, and I apologize if what I wrote was perceived as a correction, becuase it was anything but.monospaced
- a better solution than illustrator for the graphic design industry. ever since illy gave up js support, it's really just the tide that keeps them in businessimbecile
- Bennn0
Subscriptions is the ultimate business plan for any business. Having customers tied to your company, sending money on a regular basis is the best thing any company can dream of.
- Bennn—how 'bout you give Adobe a run for their money? Instead of bitching about them on a forum why don't you start your own BennnGraphics Suite? Make it free!PonyBoy
- I prefer the companies i use to lose moneyGnash
- Bennn Creative Plan, only 1.99$/m for Photobennn or 199.99$/m for the whole suite including Tiger Vector 2000 v2.0Bennn
- that's too much, man :)
FREE! ...make it like no other.PonyBoy - holy shit, why are you bennnsplaining how capitalism works?monospaced
- lol ponyfadein11
- The charts you posted NO NOT back up your claim that Adobe is making most of its money on subscriptions, though.monospaced
- yeah any ideas? I want to offer a subscription...shapesalad
- #Bennnsplaining LOL!Krassy
- PhotoBennn would Bennnsplainin shit to the client right? subscribe me nowsted
- benn, just buy bennsplainin,com, or bennsplained.com and do a kind of alternate to wikipediaGnash
- I would contribute to that gofundmeGnash
- Bennnsplaining is an addon to the suite, its offered for only 4.99$/mBennn
- https://www.youtube.…PonyBoy
- shapesalad1
MacBook Pro 2.7ghz i7
Turn on laptop... starts up. Open Photoshop CC 2018. New document:
200px X 200px, 72dpi, RGB.
New Layer.
Fill tool, click inside new layer to fill a flat solid white colour = A freaking progress bar and takes 10 seconds!
What is it doing?
- Sorry, "Paint Bucket Tool", I've always called it the Fill tool. Sure it was called that before.shapesalad
- I have the base i7, never had an issue. Did you try re-install of Photoshop?NBQ00
- ^ I'll wait till they 'update' it.shapesalad
- slower MBP here, followed same steps, and the fill was instantmonospaced
- too much porn files in your computeroey
- sorry, i meant "too many..."oey
- why aren't you just doing command + delete to fill the layer with color? why the extra step of finding and clicking the fill tool?dopepope
- still tho, it shouldn't take that long.dopepope
- Time to switch to a PC ;)microkorg
- I always use F5 fill. Took me awhile to even find the paint bucket.monospaced
- Dpi don‘t matter. Sorry you had to wait. Waiting sucks...SimonFFM
