FUCK ADOBE!
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- Bennn-1
Guys. I'm paying for Adobe. Yes. For real. Got too much problems with other apps and cr4ck3 v3rsi0n so I got back to paid subscribtion. Also, changes at work next year makes me go back at designing and I want to work in the apps more to be ready.
BUT. FUCK ADOBE! Their stupid Adobe CC Desktop app to manage programs is a real pain! All my download stop and stuck at 45% .... From my research online, its a common problem for a shit load of people since... 2014!! And its still a problem 5 years later! ... I'am angry
- Adobe, Apple, Google...same Bumblefucks!utopian
- I find that adobe cc is rock solid. Weird.monospaced
- you should try it on a MacGnash
- i find it far quicker on PC. benns error isn't that that CC stops his download at 45%, there is a problem with his computer and this is the resultkingsteven
- prob due to having cracked software on there tbh. not a fan of Adobe and you shouldn't have to know how your computer works to dl CC...kingsteven
- but this could be caused by anything. at least try and find out what the problem is.kingsteven
- FYI Bennn, use Event Viewer https://is.gd/Z3NUuL… see if there are any errors while downloading may give you an idea of the causekingsteven
- Prob due to some connection issue between CC and Adobe servers, if it's not something obvious like firewall it could be the crack put a registry block onkingsteven
- connections to Adobe or even the wrong version of .NETkingsteven
- It's weird how much trouble you're having, I never have any issues. Are you trying to download all the apps at the same time?zarkonite
- I will try to investigate more, kingsteven thanks for the tips. No, only one at a time, zarkoniteBennn
- I might end my subscription and try one of the free alternatives. Though, I’ll probably end up with cracked CCfuturefood
- I have to say I've never had significant issues over the last three decades cracked or not.CyBrainX
- Adobe's servers have never given us issues, so I doubt there's an error on their end.monospaced
- Going the cracked way is complicated, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont. And you can't find and make work all the programs... depends on wich you needBennn
- MrT4
Just killed the "Adobe Acrobat Synchronizer" with Activity Monitor (Mojave). Memory warnings in AE caused me to look at what was using what. Nearly 2GB of RAM, running constantly, to synchronise shared PDFs and the like. Acrobat isn't open and I sure as crap don't use collaborative PDFs.
Dear Adobe, please give users choice in these things and fuck off while you're doing it.
- I've just turned on my laptop to use the browser to check emails and browse. Out of interest, check tasks - I have 10 adobe-related ones running. Why?Nairn
- ..there's not even some CC-related icon in my task menu so ostensibly, there's nothing Adobe-related running. 10 fucking tasks.Nairn
- Jesus, same crap over here. Thx for the tip–fyoucher1
- They seem to have this weird goal of becoming a kind of parasite OS. It's getting really fucking cloudy round here!MrT
- ideaist3
Affinity Designer > Adobe Illustrator.
Spend the time and learn the basics.
Superior desktop product.
iPad version exists.
No contest.
Haven't even touched their other offerings; Photo & publisher BUT might pull the trigger on all 3 for $210-ish.
No subscription(s) (for now).
: )
- i dont think they will ever put a subscription model, the vast majority of their clients are there because they dont have one :)Bennn
- Maybe major versions paid? Or grant-father in users who get in pre-subscription?
Regardless me likey.ideaist - It's exciting using new software once (if?) the core differences click in your brain.ideaist
- The only issue here is expecting Adobe Illustrator files to open perfectly every time.
*Sigh*ideaist - Yeah, I had some troubles with my PSDs in Affinity Photo... that made me go back to Photoshop, i need some PSDs for my photo adjustments... it sucksBennn
- I'm going to give it a go... lets see how long I last.ShaneHolley
- I find the only problem again is that you have to begin in Affinity, NOT move from Adobe and expect a perfect transition.ideaist
- yup. i've made the switch. learning curve is steep in unexpected places, but overall, it's goodbye to adobe and their scammy subscriptionhans_glib
- Continuity1
Looks like Adobe finally did a good thing and listened to people. I found this this morning in PS:
- Is that the switch for whether you need to press shift or not for transform? If so, it's been there since they changed the default method.Nairn
- Yeah, that's the switch.Continuity
- There's been an option for that since day 1.zarkonite
- Apparently not, because there had to be a legacy free transform hack as a text file in the Prefs folder since a few updates back.Continuity
- On day 1, when we upgraded, I was able to switch back to legacy. It's been there the whole time.monospaced
- Likewise here.Nairn
- From the official release notes the checkbox was definitely added in 20.0.5. Prior versions required text file setting.evilpeacock
- i think the new way seems way more logical now.Ianbolton
- mathinc1
- *Bennn entered the room*Bennn
- that n/a happens when the target artboard is different from the source.
but i never got into this loop ahaha :Dsted - did ya get a guide in the group maybe?Gnash
- *Bennn leaved the room*Bennn
- Yup....this all of sudden started happening to me this week as well.utopian
- gnash called itimbecile
- I drag-select-copied all the objects I wanted to drop into a Live Surface Context file.. opened the LS file to drop it in and got stuck in this loop. No guides.mathinc
- Bennn1
I wonder how many people are paying the full CC sub just for Photoshop and sometimes a few minutes in Illustrator or InDesign 4-5 times per year.
Beign able to build our own ''package'' of programs would be a good thing. They're just offering the 'Photography Pack' or the 'Full On Sub' ... and the piece by piece software make no sense... WHo wants Illustrator only for 21$USA /month ?
- I doubt people sign up for full subs if they aren't even using the software. Your description is of a non professional. Better off using free built-in apps.monospaced
- No mono. Not all designers work with 5 Adobe program opened all day long making 145,000$ a year. Only you and your friends ;-)Bennn
- The moment you need more than two of their programs, you soon need more. Like PS + ID, likely you need Illy and Acrobat Pro as well. etc etc. This is why.mekk
- I am one of those people - I use Illy all the time, then PS about 3-4 times I week. I now have the full suite for £1 more than both those programs indepedently.Nairn
- Nice to be described as a 'non professional' because of this by monospaced though. A new realisation for me. Keen insight!Nairn
- @ Bennn, I NEVER said my friends make $145,000 a year. That was your assumption.monospaced
- I only said that if you charge a decent rate (such as $50-$100 an hour), you can pay for a month's subscription in less than a day, as a professional.monospaced
- If someone doesn't need to use it for regular work, chances are they aren't professional. You all take things way too fucking literally (autistic much?)monospaced
- Thank goodness Adobe has plans for these scenarios, which aren't contracted for years.monospaced
- For me the value in CC, and what keeps me locked in, is that the individual apps are cross-compatible. If I were just needing a pixel editor aka PS, I'd use onezarkonite
- of the alternatives by a competitor. I ditched Sketch for XD even though it's inferior because it plays so well with the rest of CC and I know Adobe is going tozarkonite
- be around in 10 years... I'm not so sure any of the startups will and I've got a business to run and re-training costs $$.zarkonite
- I pay the full for mostly PS, AI, Acrobat Pro, Bridge and sometimes In. Then sometimes I use AE, Pr and Audition.oey
- oey1
I don't know if some you remember a recent post of mine in the Blog thread about me being broke and clients abandoning the ship (LOL!) to the point I started to wonder if I changed to Affinity and whatever other options cause I could not afford to renew my Adobe CC subscription.
Update:
I was lucky to get a gig where in three days work I was paid enough to renew my subscription, pay 500€ of rents, buy a new battery for my mac and also for my phone, get me some hash and buy a month of groceries.
But somehow I'm still not convinced in renewing my subscription.
I started to sweat with the idea not being able to do my work, personal and professional.
Honestly I'm not that a pro (by choice) but I work with Adobe products for more than 20 years and I have a certain workflow.
Maybe the Software I would miss most would be Bridge, yep I confess and despite finding some alternatives I find the way everything connects...I also use Font Explorer...is super easy and without flaws..at least in my case, and that's what I think what I would miss most.
Nowadays I practically only use AI and PS, but I totally love when I have the chance to work with Indesign.
So I could easily replace them for the level I work I do with Affinity products.
But I would miss occasionally Premiere or Audition and recently AE, like each maybe 5 times a year.
I believe that as a professional 420€ (in my case) a year are totally affordable and I just had a bit of bad luck combined with bad planning.
But damn, I miss the chance to "buy" products by category.
Like a package for graphic, or motion or web...
I would totally pay for it.I mentioned 7 apps and I don't need Adobe Stock.
I thinks it's really disappointing that only this Photography package exists.I haven't renew my sub and I'm still thinking what if I change, how bad could it be?
I guess being used to it for over 20 years, having Adobe Certificates and a solid workflow really plays a big role in my decision and I'm lucky I don't have to pay 700€.
I considered applying for the local College just to use the Ateliers/Workshops and get the Student discount.
Does anyone of you quit and moved on?
Do you miss Adobe?I remember Eskema using Affinity at the same time I was testing it was well.
Sorry the long text but I needed to think out loud.
And yes fuck Adobe but also not totally.
It's difficult...Maybe if I land another good gig soon I buy Affinity and use it for my personal projects to get deeper into it and next year I will be able to make a decision based on experience.
Thanks for reading!
- I tried, been using a cracked version of CS6 for a while, but changed computer recently and didnt manage to reinstall a working copy.Bennn
- So i tried different open source alternatives. To replace AE, AI, PS and ID ... everything i've found sucks, crash or have a steep learning curve.Bennn
- So now im paying for the Photo plan wich include PS, Bridge and Lightroom, the 3 programs i use the most.Bennn
- But now I miss AI, ID and AE ... using those rarely but when i need it... i'd need it. Not i dont know what to do to replace them.Bennn
- Found Kdenlive to replace AE ... not sure if its good yet. Resolve keep crashing.Bennn
- Scribus to replace ID, seems alright, havent really use it yet but seems like a good alternative.Bennn
- oh yeah and Dreamweaver, i'm using it sometimes, found BlueGriffon, seems good but can't find my ways around it, would need some tutorials but im lazyBennn
- and Inkscape to replace AI... havent really tested it yet, seems ok-ish but not sureBennn
- hey Benn thanks for your feedback!
I checked some articles recently, let me see if I can find the linksoey - https://www.slrloung…oey
- it's like me somehow, when I need certain apps I'm glad they're at hand and that they work. being able to import AI layers to AE for exampleoey
- maybe it's possible with other programs but from Bridge it's like... I manage everything from there. And to sync color settings, etc...oey
- Adobe Bridge is free! you don't need a paid subscription to use itGnash
- the subscription is good for 2 computers. find someone to share it with --- like you and Benn!Gnash
- there are also other freebies with adobe (along with Bridge); Adobe XD, all their mobile apps, 2 GBs of online storage... etcGnash
- hey Gnash! I know, but is there a point to use Bridge apart from other apps? I also use XD that's true, I mean used it twice.oey
- you think me and Benn would get along? ;-)oey
- i've only ever used bridge in the adobe ecosystem so I'm not sure. But it must have a use for them to offer it free.Gnash
- some info: https://prodesigntoo…Gnash
- thanks Gnash!!! You gave me this nice idea, i just sent an Email to my 50 housemates asking if someone wants to share it.oey
- it's only 208,50€/yearoey
- find a student!Gnash
- Moho Pro can cover most of the 2D animation you might do in AE. If you're doing people based explainer videos.shapesalad
- find a student, lol
"Looking for a student to share an Adobe monthly plan" yeeeeaaaahhhhhBennn - if you want to replace lightroom for raw file edits > try Darktable https://www.darktabl… free it is!api
- A month's worth of adobe CC is like the price of one hr freelancing manmekk
- There's lots of Students here we'll see. They already have a one year top price and they mostly share with themselves.oey
- I used to use Darktable actually and I liked it.oey
- hey mekk I know that and I also think that 50€ for the money I get it's actually a okay deal.oey
- but as i was in the limit I started to question certain things. and I know it's a bit irrelevant but I have a lot of stuff that's a hour of work ;-)oey
- I also wrote that Adobe CC is totally affordable. please don't forget that I'm awareoey
- Krassy3
- "One design prototype and one design spec at a time can be shared, with a paid plan available to enable unlimited sharing"Gnash
- still good though. Sketch must be a wee bit anxiousGnash
- is sketch the new Quark?hotroddy
- CS3 for life. Or until it stops installing.section_014
- Also, wtf is XD? Does it export perfect xml resource files for Android?section_014
- Still think both are yesterday's news. Figma is where it's at :)exador1
- TBO0
Space bar - hand tool doesn't work since I got a new Wacom.
- mac or windows?zarkonite
- I know it sounds crazy, but try quitting any running web browsers and try again.monospaced
- Happened to me too. Gotta reset preferences, sux.fyoucher1
- Same thing w/ magnifying glassfyoucher1
- I used to get that a few years ago and somehow managed to eradicate it. Monospaced is correct about browser workaround (Flash thing). Nuking prefs might help.evilpeacock
- Mac: tried resetting preferences. Still not working going to contact Wacom.TBO
- Think I had similar problem, was just in Ai, Ps worked. New version of Ai fixed issue.mrAtor
- I have the same issue.ShaneHolley
- OctopiStimuli2
Been finding Indesign, Illy and Photoshop CC 2018 versions all slow and buggy on my iMac 2015 retina with 24gb ram and ssd!!!
Surely it shouldn't be slow and laggy.
Though I see that Apple have fecked up the graphics drivers in High Sierra so Adobe aren't at fault apparently.
Should i just roll back to CC 2017 or go all the way back to super speedy CS6?
I only need to export SVG'sthough that are compatible with new browsers.
- rolled back and stll slow but not as much. specially when using trackpad...oey
- May or may not help, but corrupt fonts can make the whole CC suite slow/crash. This is nothing new, always keep a clean font library.evilpeacock
- You can throw as much ram at the OSX version of CC as you want but it all hinges on the shitty, shitty GPU the iMac's use. That's where the bottleneck occurs.face_melter
- Especially when you're running at 'retina' resolutions. The garbage GPU has to run *that* and CC's engine at the same time. Lycka till!face_melter
- i don't get why apple doesn't use better gpusGnash
- Yeah, even turning off GPU in the performance prefs does nothing to speed things upOctopiStimuli
- hydro743
I still work in cs, and this past year, clients on CC can't
Open cs AI files. Little search, found it's common. So basically Adobe is killing legacy files to make people shift to the monthly as well as working with apple to kill cs, updated while back and destroyed certain function. Fixed it by getting Little Snitch and cut off all adobe communication. Ai doesn't crash as much now, just no access to being able to print (crashes) and type preview, but all well. I can work around those.- They have cancellation fees for the cloud versions, beware of contracts with adobe . . .kgvs72
- wow... I'm surprised you're not full blown 'CC', hydro... personally I think Adobe should be sponsoring you (like Lebron getting a pair of Nikes)PonyBoy
- I’m also using cs, with snow leopard, so I haven’t encountered any of those issues, thank fuck. Preview opens all recent so files so it’s not an issue.hans_glib
- Fuck Adobe, and their shitty protection scam, and fuck the rest of you for falling for it.hans_glib
- I had the opposite problem with supposedly 'PDF compatible' files generated by CC editions not loading into CSx properly. Yes, Adobe are shyster cunts.detritus
- emphor0
I can't update CC as my work Mac has to use a virtual machine to access the internet.
Spoke to Adobe (surprise right there) and as it's a 'cloud based service' they don't support virtual machines and I'll need the Mac to access the internet to get updates.
If anyone knows of a work around ie updates as .dmg files that would be handy.
Upshot is, I'm removing myself from the subscription, why pay for something I can't use?
F*****n Adobe!- adobe needs to connect once every 30 days to keep your subscription active...thats my understanding.Hayoth
- Wait your work Mac has no internet except in the virtual workspace ??!monospaced
- Seriously on this one you should be cursing out your it department, not adobe.monospaced
- theres a cancellation fee, after being signed up for 2+ years, mine was $250moldero
- if your payments are via paypal - You can block Adobe from authorizing any future charges.hotroddy
- and Adobe will cancel the subscription for you.hotroddy
- i guess i wasn't alone https://www.reddit.c…moldero
- good idea hotrodmoldero
- Wait. You're shitting on Adobe for something your work IT setup has implemented? The whole point of virtual machines is that they are... virtual and don't existface_melter
- exactly!monospaced
- LOL!oey
- did you just blame Adobe for your ridiculous work setup?fadein11
- oops should have read comments.fadein11
- i_monk3
The newest version of InDesign erases your workspace preferences, it seems.
- it randomly does this anyways, maybe it's a featuredoesnotexist
- I've experienced this for years off-and-on when updating ID annually, also with AI. If you look it up support usually just says you have to start over.evilpeacock
- Latest release fixes this debacle... you can go back in and choose to add you preferences from previous version. Still a PITA if you manually did it like I didsab
- NBQ002
Adobe Media Encoder app: 5.35GB
Handbrake app: 132MB
lol
- <oey_oey
- not to mention the speed. 40 hours to transcode a 16h video to mp4 proxy in FCP. 45 mins with ffmpeg + python whyyy???kingsteven
- I will put up with Media Encoder as long as it's the only way to render from AE and still be able to work in AE. Handbrake can't do that for me.CyBrainX
- But I am aware it's the worst thing Adobe makes, by far.CyBrainX
- HB FTWAQUTE
- Ben991
FUCKING ADOBE, THEY CHANGED ALL THE ICONS OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBAR FOR NO REASON! In the last CC update.
fuuuccckkkk
- in what program? they all look the same to me.lvl_13
- Photoshop... lots of little changes in the interface, all annoyingBen99
- Its like they think ''people are paying a lot, lets make them feel they have new stuff by changing icons and shit''Ben99
- Not really.monospaced
- Fuck, if it was up to people like you it would still look like version 1. Get used to change.ArmandoEstrada
- have you seen the changes?Ben99
- I'm still on Photoshop 7 as I'm waiting until it's changed so much I'll have to relearn the whole thing again. Can you still adjust levels?Ianbolton
- AUTOMATICALLY!!! SO COOL.Ianbolton
- they have a new interface aware tool that can make it look like 1999 if you like.fadein11
- Ianbolton3
Every time i go to replace fonts in Illustrator and InDesign i get so frustrated with the tiny GUI that pops up to search and replace. It's so unhelpful yet surely so easy to fix. First world problems i know, but it's been like this for years and it could be so much more intuitive.
Thanks, and Fuck You Adobe!
- This goes waaaaay back; Must be tied to some API that they're afraid to touch or something.evilpeacock
- Yeah, that's a paint in the balls that. Used to be completely fine. WhyyyyYYYYY!?!PhanLo
- Using FontExplorer X Pro simplified this. what's left?oey_oey
- monNom0
Client requested to use a specific typekit font. It worked fine*(it would grind Photoshop to a complete halt if I used any typekit fonts ), for weeks of revisions, until today. Deadline day. Now Illustrator has lost the ability to load just one specific face (bold) from the set... typekit shows it as installed. Illustrator puts a little * beside it and makes the text pink. I'm just getting ready to output final artwork and now I get to dick around with font loading.
This fucking company...
- wow that is new :) tried to reinstall the font?sted
- Adobe is to Design what Herpes is to humans. Once you get (use it) you are pretty much fucked with it till the end.hydro74
- reinstalled the font, restarted illustrator. works again. I don't need that kind of stress in my life.monNom
- ^ lol too true.monNom
- no, you need real stress in your life ;-)oey_oey
- That's why I like to control my own fonts and load them via FontExplorer or font base, not through Adobe fonts. Fugg that!sab
- Funny that font or font cache corruption is still a major headache; I've been dealing with that off-and-on my entire life/career!evilpeacock
- grafician-1
Punches Ai for drawing by default a line with a fill instead of a STROKE!
- this is what i'm talking about - a simple bit of if/else code would make their software massively easier to useshapesalad
- shift-X ?uan
- Wouldn't either one be annoying half the time?CyBrainX
- ^Nairn
- I still don't understand what SS demands here unless he expects AI to be intelligent and prescient. As you say, 50%+ of the time, it'll get whatever wrong.Nairn
- Personally I'd love it if every new form came with a 0.01pt stroke and no fill, but I'm like 0.001% of AI users, so I click on such a thing first, THEN start.Nairn
- It should use your last setting or whatever is presently set in fill/stroke when nothing is selected. Then, offer options in preferences to change how it works.CyBrainX
- Why would a LINE have a FILL?!
What's the logic?grafician - There's no 'draw line' tool, it's just the pen which isn't specific, just beziers. Start with the the pencil or brush and it defaults to a black line.MrT
- the logic is that a lot of the time, people use the fucking line tool to draw a shape with a fill you cretinmonospaced
- monospaced That's the PEN TOOL the line tool is a DIFFERENT TOOL you TOOL!grafician
- CyBrainX yeah it seems to keep the LAST settings saved somehow somewhere and have no clue how to change that behaviour to something else by default! Grrrrgrafician
- oey_oey1
So it's that time of the year.
I was charged 61,59€ for my Adobe CC subscription.
I was like okay, I will cancel it.I'm canceling it and step by step I come to a window with an offer that is basically the same as what I'm paying now, 35,69€
Still, the offer marked as "best offer" is 2 months free then 61,59 a month.
I mean, what?! how is this possible?
Fior sure this will be possible to do every year, so why would anyone choose the "best offer"?I'm talking with an assistant now and check.
I really like to be able to use Adobe at the end of the day and I have 22 years of work.I really gave a thought today about quitting, but then come the questions like "what if I need it?"
- Things is I could just buy one version and maybe would need a new version in three years. Like Affinity did. Maybe I don't need the new version. Damn.oey_oey
- I mean, I make enough money to pay for it but...oey_oey
- The best thing would be to get a job for a company that hands me a MBP to work with Adobe CC and that doesn't mind me to use it for my own workoey_oey
- I'm on it this now... every year, the same bs :(OBBTKN
- I spoke with my partner and she said come on 35€? Just keep it and continue to support Affinity and continue to learn how to use it.oey_oey
- If the day comes they don't offer you a good subscription plan the quit when that time comes. Industry standard is an important factoroey_oey
- Personal projects Affinity. Client work Adobe.oey_oey
- If it's for photoshop - just use http://photopea.com instead.shapesalad
- or little snitch + cracked versionshapesalad
- ah missed those days. Adobe CS6oey_oey
- You just need to get ahead of the game. Set yourself a reminder and you'll keep paying half the price.
#don't be a chumppalimpsest - ^ hahaha!oey_oey
- I actually do that every year...but this year I had some serious family health business going on. no lets purchase V2 of Affinity :-)oey_oey
- No.
I think you're fucked for the whole year.
If you open an OnlyFans and post pics of your feet I'm in!palimpsest - What?!oey_oey
- Did I fucking stutter?palimpsest
- Affinity is amazing for non-professionals but spend an afternoon working with it and you'll pay anything for Photoshop.SlashPeckham
