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- PhanLo2
- dem mo fo$ gotz $um $killzutopian
- No one remembers anything told to them when the statement start with “and remember”...shapesalad
- utopian1
Report says cellphone data suggests October shutdown at Wuhan lab, but experts are skeptical
- utopian3
- It'll go away like the flu has gone away.MondoMorphic
- does he have a private wildcat petting zoo?fadein11
- neverscared5
Libs and deep state keep saying there is no federal plan to deal with Covid. But America has the greatest plan:
1. Blue Angels flyovers
2. Demote and fire scientists who give bummer news.
3. Alleviate symptoms through dying- 4. Bury head in sand and ignore the factsmonospaced
- Encourage crank cures and unproven treatments on live TV to millions of peopleyuekit
- 5. Drink bleach and stare directly into the sunFNP14
- R_Kercz1
My office started floating the idea of having people back at desks in early June, so I have started figuring out how to make a quarantine "apartment" for myself in my basement.
Anyone else working through similar things? Have any ideas?
- Make noise. No reason to put family at risk because boss wants ass in seatsGnash
- ^ nuts right? my boss just told us october at the earliestkingsteven
- I agree. Working on that angle. Glad to have some space to work with if things don't go well.R_Kercz
- Ya, it’s unreasonableGnash
- neverscared0
hoax president man is not listening.
- Bluejam10
- Continuity0
Oh, dear. According to Deutsche Welle:
'[...] Germany's transmission rate has, again, risen above the critical value of 1, with every patient now infecting more than one other on average. The latest estimate puts the so-called reproduction (R) number now at 1.10.
RKI has repeatedly emphasized that for the outbreak to gradually subside, the rate must remain below 1. On Wednesday, the agency put the reproduction rate at 0.65, but said that since then the estimated figure had been rising steadily.
The rise follows the lifting of many restrictions on public life and several days of encouraging news about the spread of the virus.'
- Number sinks every Monday, see this chart: https://stochastik-t…SimonFFM
- I'm curious to see what the cumulative rates will be at the end of the year, or end of next year. Will early successes be rendered null by subsequent waves?Nairn
- And this morning it's 1.13.Continuity
- kingsteven2
Interesting paper suggests 'disease-induced' herd immunity can be much lower than the traditional herd immunity calculation we use for vaccines...
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.03085…
The model used in the paper reduces herd immunity from 60% to 43% based on social activity - obviously it's not exact parameters (because no one knows) but it seems they've been moderate in their assumptions.
It also goes on to show in the event of no vaccine - strict lockdown measures with a gradual reduction in distancing measures can end up with more deaths in the long run than moderate measures.
- Yup, which is why I'm curious to see a country by country comparison in a year or so's time, to see which strategy worked 'best'. Cos no cunt nose now.Nairn
- yup we'll find out eventually that sweden was right all along ;)renderedred
- assuming that > 43% of UK are not venerable and don't live in venerable households - they're also the ones most removed from risk of infection by lockdown...kingsteven
- in less built up areas of the UK over 50% of deaths are in care homes. thats a trend that may continue even as hospital deaths fall, if we don't keep hospitalskingsteven
- full, by not easing lockdown we could end up killing more old folks in the long run. it's going to be most telling in Scandinavia, for me it stresses thekingsteven
- importance of not letting political motivation get in the way - reopening business may be the best way to infect a non-venerable demographickingsteven
- ie. the economic solution and altruistic solution (if you don't believe that vaccination is an option) may be one and the same.kingsteven
- Most countries haven't passed 4%, many are at 2% and it's been just a couple months...********
- a lot of those studies graf are also showing very low CFR for healthy <65's. going by UK deaths seroprevalence will be far higherkingsteven
- 43% of the UK is most definitely not venerable, nor particularly much of the other 37%.Nairn
- this paper is too simplistic to be taken seriously. it even says that it's only "an illustration"dorf
- whatthefunk15
- WTFutopian
- LOLHayoth
- HahahaBluejam
- It’s goodshapesalad
- shopped!********
- This is perfectGnash
- haha good onemilfhunter
- lolsrhadden
- ********0
- Great meme material!
The designer of this just knew...********
- Great meme material!
- BusterBoy1
Fuckwits in Melbourne protesting in the CBD yesterday. Some interviewed on the news "5G caused this virus" and "there is no virus. this is a hoax".
Should be locked up for being dumb. Seriously, I'm starting to think everyone should have an IQ test, and if it's below a certain level, ship them all to Tasmania.
- The IQ level of both places would be up : )MrT
- Another QBN communist. Arrest them for being stupid!Hayoth
- looked like 50-100 people. the village idiots are getting way too much attention these days.inteliboy
- Why Tasmania? Let them in peace...OBBTKN
- You can't put all those people in one country One USA is enough.CyBrainX
- https://www.youtube.…drgs
- The world is unfortunately inhabited by a bunch of Hayoth's and Bobo's.utopian
- utopian-1
Coronavirus CAN enter the body through the eyes: Scientists find eye cells are a prime target for the deadly virus to attach to.
- Deadly Mail. No ta.MrT
- Wasn’t that already known? Hence the face masksGnash
- https://i1.wp.com/ww…********
- What does a face mask have to do with your eyes?utopian
- Let's not be dismissive about this, the original "paper" is good https://www.biorxiv.…********
- So if someone infected sneezes on you the virus can infiltrate you, even with a face mask, thro' your eyes...********
- Or cry on you...********
- Basically if you're wearing glasses you're safe.********
- Fair enough but elsewhere the Mail champions the return to normal. eg 'Fun police' article next to this one. It's almost like they just want clicks...MrT
- Here in Asia I have seen a lot of workers wearing face visors...apparently this is safest although like a joke.yuekit
- I meant whole-face masks, I just forgot the word for visorGnash
- those asian ladies were onto something.
https://3.bp.blogspo…pango - Have seen this reported from the start, it was one of the reasons why the WHO originally said masks were of limited help.webazoot
- In that case, would a Bird Box help in detecting the virus?deadsperm
- webazoot3
Someone tries to work out what Stay Alert means...
"The immediate response to the government’s new Covid19 messaging has been a mixture of confusion and outrage. Commentators and academics seem bemused, the only possible explanation being that the government is incompetent.
But actually, I think it’s very deliberate — and if their ultimate goal is to retain power rather than save lives — very smart.
What they are trying to do with this shift is change the way this crisis and the actors in it are framed. Until now, Covid19 has been an intentional attacker (witness the war metaphors and the comparison to “an unexpected and invisible mugger”); we have been the weak and hapless victims who need to be told what to do; and Johnson and his government have been the strong, all-knowing heroes who will save us. This is a version of what I call the Subject story.
But this story has been falling apart, and that is why they’re changing it now. This was not unexpected: a pandemic was widely expected. People are not victims: so many of us in so many ways have thrown ourselves into helping one another. Government has not been strong: they responded too late, and their “led by science” trope has been convincingly dismantled.
So here is why this announcement is happening today: not because we’re past the peak and ready to start lifting lockdown, but because the government’s framing is failing and they need to change it.
This is much more a political moment than a public health moment.
The new story is a version of one I call the Consumer story. Covid19 will now become an inconvenient hindrance to our lives, but one that each of us needs to take personal responsibility for dealing with, and getting back to normal as best we can. In this story, government steps back and gets out of the way, because people are best left to look out for themselves. We are individuals, there is no such thing as society.
The dark corollary of course is that if you get the disease, it will be your fault — because you will not have stayed sufficiently alert."
- Intentional strategy to shift future blame onto the public.lowimpakt
- it doesn't mean anything, just another pointless slogan to distract us from the fact that they haven't managed to organise any proper data gathering.hans_glib
- ie finding out how many people have had this fucking thing. hospitals and care homes are two small (extreme) data points -hans_glib
- it's bad science to extrapolate anything from those figures.hans_glib
- they haven't got a fucking clue what they're doing. this is the same fucking bunch of cunts that have been lying to us since '16Bluejam
- Amused how, in hindsight, cretins can always say they saw it coming. No. No this narrative change was not “expected.”monospaced
- Morning_star1
- *Welcome.Morning_star
- That dudes British accent is on point, I think even the Brits would agree.robotron3k
- Boris + Trump = Covidiotsutopian
- One would hope it is, robo, given he's British.Nairn
- This is also him...
https://www.youtube.…Morning_star - I hoped robo knew and had finally landed the joke he's been attempting for so long, but now nairn's got me wondering.Fax_Benson
- Bluejam14
- i said to the wife, this math makes no sense loltrooperbill
