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  • mekk36

    Hey, set. You're pretty serious about this and I like that you are questioning what's happening. But please consider a more relaxed approach and allow others to have opinions that differ from yours.

    The videos you posted have some side taste - who tf puts "GESTAPO IN THE USA?" in a YT thumbnail..? I think you may have maneuvered yourself into a bubble of conspiracy theories about this topic, maybe without noticing. Just look at the ads the sites you posted have and what kind of content they offer - thats complete bullshit. No one wants to inform about 5G there, it's just clicks made with panic.

    Just consider some views that are a little less extreme and more on the topic itself than just defending one parties opinion.

    <3

    • As I said before, the mainstream media, your beloved trusted sources of information, are never going to report truthfully on this..set
    • ... so we have to look at our sources for information. Just because you don't like the look of website doesn't mean the science isn't sound.set
    • there is moremekk
    • Other sources *set
    • And I never quoted or suggested mainstream media.mekk
    • So you don't believe America has a secret police? Fucking lol to that my ignorant little friend.set
    • I asked you to provide your reliant sources of information to assure us ask that 5G is perfectly safe. You're not able to do that are you?set
    • So why then are you happy for them to put 20,000 satellites in space beaming every inch of earth with a technology...set
    • ... that you have no evidence whatsoever is safe? Where as anyone with half a brain could see the potential dangers.set
    • Sorry but I'm sick of utterly thick headed ignorant morons like you.set
    • You'll be the death of humanity, and maybe we deserve it.set
    • You've disregarded every single mote of valuable information simply because you saw the word gestapo or an advert you didn't like. And you convince me of...set
    • ... having blinkers on. Take a fucking long hard look at yourself.set
    • I'm done with niceties dealing with people like you.set
    • Seems like you prefer hating me over communicating on a level of mutual respect.mekk
    • I have no respect for you I'm afraid.set
    • I have for you <3mekk
    • Bless you. It's extremely frustrating, because sadly what I say is the reality of it, but people are too blind and programmed to see it. It upsets me. Sometimesset
    • Other times I'm indifferent. Ultimately what does it really matter.set
    • Like I said, allow yourself to take an unbiased look at different views. There is no single source of truth.mekk
    • America has a secret police? Sooooo many questions about this.monospaced
    • @set
      relax, i think meek did not want to attack you. shake hands.
      api
    • there is potential its bad, a thalidomide. but im like 50/50 non gov tests. one hand gov is incompetent. the other theyre incompetent and hard to judge if testdeathboy
    • vs no tests is good. or a possible thalimide situation from non testing. i dont think set is crazy for being concerned or even not justified. i dont c it as b/wdeathboy
  • pango15

    • The nihilistic idiot-baiting troll in me adores this, and wishes he'd thought of it first.Continuity
    • this would drive the worlds biggest idiots and waste of air totally nuttymonospaced
    • Yup. Delicious, isn't it?Continuity
    • I wouldn't. You might live near someone with a legit mental illness (paranoia, dementia, etc) and this could hurt them. The risk isn't worth the joke, imho.nb
    • nb, don't you know your neighbours?shapesalad
    • There are probably 200-300 people who can see my wifi signal at any given moment. Maybe more. I have to do this.monospaced
    • Shapesalad - do you know all your neighbours, having not all that long ago moved into a fairly dense area of London?Nairn
    • i'd totally do this LOLrenderedred
    • Lol, this is hilariousGnash
    • Although, make sure your network is secure ‘cause I can see a hackorz dude wanting to fuck with youGnash
    • Set just got committed.utopian
    • Why is this on front page? we don't like misinformation and fake news, yet we play dumb jokes like this to spread false conspiracy shit? Right.grafician
    • i wouldn't say spreading. more like laughing at it.pango
    • @graf, are you joking? I hope so.fadein11
  • Bennn13

    If there's evident problems with 5G, why would "they" go on with its development?

    • Maybe "they" are immune to it.qoob
    • Many lizards do in fact bask in radiation at the start of each day...Nairn
    • I could say that the world has been infiltrated by a demonic AI that lacks creative power like we do, and is slowy acquiring our bodies through technologyset
    • 5G will turn our energy bodies, our dreaming bodies, in to a frequency that the AI can assimilate with. But if I did, you'd think I was a total nut job :)set
    • The black meteorites that plato told us was the reason for the fall of atlantis brought it here. Same black stone that sits at mecca and they all must touch.set
    • Fucking ridiculous nonsense though right :)set
    • You sound crazy but I'm interested.Maaku
    • Of course I doset
    • I'm painfully aware of that fact.set
    • Not saying you're crazy but how did the meteorites go about setting up 5G networks?qoob
    • It's infiltrated the highest levels at Washington, London, the Vatican etc and of course.... Silicon Valleyset
    • Everyone knows that the Vatican is an independent city-state, it's own country with its own rules, but most people don't know that...set
    • Hmmm wasn't this the plot of the recent Marvel superhero movie Venom? :)qoob
    • .. The city of London and Washington are too. The three centres of control... Military, finance and religion. They're a team, controlled by the same force.set
    • ... And sadly that force is not of yours earth and does not have humans best interest at heart. What a shocker.set
    • ... Sadly most people's programming will instantly deny this as ridiculous, and I totally understand.set
    • I don't bother getting in to it usually as there's little point, people are so programmed that they won't even entertain the thought, but Ben did ask :)set
    • They tell us a lot in movies. Something to do with black magic and telling your subjects what you're doing. I haven't seen venom yet, maybe I should.set
    • I mean it sounds interesting...but I honestly never heard of this particular theory before. How do you know this stuff?qoob
    • Also, plausible deniabilty. It's a great way to get the masses to forget the truth when they hear it because 'you've been watching too many movies mate'set
    • @qoobb I know this stuff because I saw it at the movies, obviously ;)set
    • I don't even care if people believe it anymore. Humanity is not my responsibility.set
    • We're welcoming it with open arms. Maybe we deserve it. Ultimately what difference does it make if light or dark wins. This 3D reality is duality.set
    • I heard this before... the thing about Vatican, Washington and London. ... It falls in the conspiracy theory categoryBennn
    • No it doesn't Ben, it's an unequivocal fact. That's the only bit of what I said that can be proven right now, hahahahaset
    • I'm just wondering how you know all of this is true..???qoob
    • Also when you say AI, does that mean it was created by someone else?qoob
    • I don't.set
    • I'm not trying to convince anyone. Believe me, don't believe, makes no difference.set
    • set, link us some trustable sources on the web about itBennn
    • lay off the bottleutopian
    • Utopian, bring the prime example of humanities fuckery and programmed denial of anything that isn't already known about. Thanks bud.set
    • You were part of the crew that burnt people at the stake for saying the earth revolves around the sun, hahahaha. Bless you.set
    • Thankfully there were a few intelligent people that entertained the idea, looked in to further and realised it was true.set
    • If it was all utopians we'd still think the earth was flat and at the centre of the universe, hehe.set
    • Money. Its always money.desmo
    • Ah yes, money, the original cover for the cover.set
    • Anyway, whatever you choose to believe or deny, the fact is 5G is not good for us.set
    • they make cigarettescollegefund
    • Classic set, fucking love ya!utopian
    • lol, I am classically a bit of a cunt I know.set
    • set you make me smile when i read your shit! keep it up man!renderedred
    • plato, meteorites, atlantis, ai, 5G... fuck yes!renderedred
    • 5G is the culmination of a several millennia plot, under a single organization that now has world power?monospaced
    • Actually, don’t answer. I asked before I read your next post.monospaced
    • It’s cute you think humans can band together like that. Truth is the world is chaos and we’re barely keeping shit together.inteliboy
    • I seeset
    • i can't tell anymore if set is using ridiculousness to emphasize the sarcasm or to hide that he actually believe what he said.... O__Opango
    • "They" is just us man.yuekit
    • Sadly not.set
    • The LHC is designed to own a portal to bring the rest of them here once the time is right. Do you really think the UN bands together and spends £15bn...set
    • ... on a science project with no financial return? Haha. The cern logo is 666 and they have a statue of shiva the destroyer of worlds at the hqset
    • The truth is hidden in front of your faces and you're all too stupid to see it. Maybe humanity deserves its fate.set
    • Except their logo is a particle accelerator according to them. And a statue of Shiva strikes me as a tongue in cheek reference to smashing particles togetheryuekit
    • Yea it's just that. lolset
    • It's all just a big joke and coincidence and you all know everything there is to know, and anything you don't know about must be bullshit. Hahahah, jesus christset
    • Never said that but it would take a lot more than a logo vaguely resembling a six to convince me something is a secret portal to another dimension.yuekit
    • I mean, it does look like a particle accelerator doesn't it? https://www.extremet…yuekit
    • Also Shiva is a good god in Hinduism so how does that fit into your theory?yuekit
  • Nairn19

    Not sure where satellites come into the 5G question - they won't emit that sort of radiation as that's not the realm or scope it's intended for (short distance and wavelength). I'd be more concerned about other military radiation like radars and such. But heck, even if 20,000 satellites in low orbit are somehow emitting unhealthy radiation - you have to take into account the low power generation and density of these type of small-fry satellties. There's simply no physical way such devices could cause humans physical or health problems at ground level, even if we didn't have an atmosphere that soaks up 5G... .

    If there were a multitude of satellites up there with multi-megawatt fusion generators I'd start getting concerned, but there's just no way solar on small satellite can generate enough energy to cause anything like worrisome problems.

    I don't really think that 5G will be a health catastrophe for humans - I may well be wrong (especially kids in small rooms with high concentrations of always-on wireless) - but there's enough people smarter than I to be asking the right questions and doing the right research to highlight if this will be a problem. It's just a form of radiation, and if there's one thing we've done since we evolved from oxygen-consuming surface-dwelling eukaryotes is create defences against radiation. Heck, as a ginger I'm quite aware of biological difference in this regard.

    .

    I do, however, worry about what effect this sort of thing - and I'd include 4G and contemporary wavelengths in this - has on creatures smaller than us. I've entertained the suspicion for a while now that high particulate emissions and cell tower radiation might have a part to play in our problems with apparent insect die-offs.

    I don't think they're getting fried and I don't think they've time to develop cancers and the sort of conditions that we humans fret about, but I do wonder if we're fundamentally missing some aspect of their physiology and perception of the world that is we're simply blind to, because of our difference in scale.

    Anyway, there's this, which you can wade through...

    Exposure of Insects to Radio-Frequency Electromagnetic Fields from 2 to 120 GHz

    https://www.nature.com/articles/…

    • Whoooops, that was a bit longer than I intended. Sorry!Nairn
    • Pesticides have been highly implicated in colony collapse disorder.sarahfailin
    • solar radiation > 5g radiation. no need to worry.dorf
    • https://5g.co.uk/new…set
    • Do you know what backhaul is, set?Nairn
    • Yes, the opposite of fronthaulset
    • and 90 degrees from sidehaulset
    • Just because they're not beaming the 5G themselves, doesn't make it any less dangerous, the planet being covered in 5Gset
    • I should say any less significant, rather than dangerous.set
    • Why am I still here? :)set
    • yeah we would have died long ago if all this crap was truemekk
  • JoeRogan14

    • I;m not saying the earth is flat but none of you ignorant fucks know for sure the earth is round. Just saying. Open your minds a bit you shits :)set
    • I know for certain that the earth is round. Don't be foolish.nb
    • If you really think it's not possible to tell for yourself that Earth is round, you might want to refrain from telling other people about science.nb
    • Go outside and look around.nb
    • Amazing how we're supposed to "look into" how the Earth is flat, but you ignorant lot can't be bothered to "look into" science. Oh, wait, you have looked intoPublicVoice
    • science, and have, in your infinite wisdom, determined that you are smarter than the collective science of centuries.
      You could be right, but we doubt it.
      PublicVoice
    • There goes his credibilityLotLizard
    • How does gravity work on a flat surface? Think about gravity and you can only conclude a sphere.shapesalad
    • he argues that you don't know the earth isn't flat, not because he believes it... but the earth isn't a sphere and gravity is a construct of theoretical physicskingsteven
    • the idea that the earth is spherical and that gravity is a force that pulls objects directly to the ground are both pseudo scientific fallacies :)kingsteven
    • so he has a point.kingsteven
    • LOL
      ok
      moldero
    • is that john taffer?CALLES
    • I live for this shit.XanderCage
  • inteliboy17

    You think scientists and engineers are evil? Corporations, telcos, governments... sure... but lab nerds who barely have middle class security, stare at microscopes and data all day, are somehow involved in a big conspiracy?

    Because if this truly was a danger to the human race you'd think we'd be hearing more about it - outside of your fringe news sources.

    I was genuinely intrigued, and down to be proven wrong. But haven't dug up any significant proof that 5G is dangerous. Though I guess if there is even a smell something is off, then an independent report needs to be done.

    • Jesus, you're fast exposing yourself to be one of the lesser intelligent members here.set
    • Which is rather ironic, given your username.set
    • Yeah good response you smug twat.inteliboy
    • Funny because I was actually interested, and looking to know more... But I forgot you're a cunt. Always have been, always will be.inteliboy
    • Ah I see, so because the information comes from someone you think is a cunt, you blindly disregard it. How very intelligent.set
    • I was interested to know more as part of a thread on a website I like visiting, via diving in as a sceptic.inteliboy
    • though I guess that's a lesser intelligent thing to do for such an intellect as yourself.inteliboy
    • I apologise I know I'm rather abrupt, but you just said that you can't find any evidence that 5G is bad for us. Sorry fella but that's ridiculous.set
    • I never said that the scientists and engineers are evil. The ones giving the orders at the top are the ones corrupted by evil. Everyone else is just doing...set
    • ... their job. Getting paid. Plus information is compartmentalised a lot of the time so no one has the full picture.set
    • It's like saying everyone that works for the tobacco industry is evil. Of course not.set
    • Or everyone in the farming industry that sprays poison on to our food is evil. Of course not. That doesn't mean the poison isn't real.set
    • true, that's a good way of putting it.inteliboy
    • Have a great day mateset
    • Thanks for letting us know set mate!. Didn’t THEY suggest that mobiles give us brain cancer but they don’t?Ianbolton
    • https://www.telegrap…set
    • https://www.independ…set
    • https://amp.cnn.com/…set
    • Sorry 'mate' but what planet are you living on?set
    • " ionizing radiation, especially from X-rays used in CT scans, has the most "supportive evidence" as a possible factor behind the rise in glioblastoma diagnosesmonospaced
    • “The exposures used in the studies cannot be compared directly to the exposure that humans experience when using a cell phone,”monospaced
    • Interesting snippets from those links. Not arguing against you or challenging, just exploring what you shared :)monospaced
    • Guys, guys, let's keep it classy.Maaku
  • mekk19

    Set be like entering the motorway on the wrong side and trying to convince everyone to turn around.

  • mekk15

    The amount of bullshit people spread within the 5G discussion is insane. Relax, it's not like we're building a giant microwave to cook us all.

    • That's almost exactly what it is. Where are you getting your information?set
    • From Tom Wheeler by any chance? lol.
      Did you even read or watch any of the information in this thread?
      set
    • This is just conspiracy and far from any kind of scientific research.mekk
    • Would you care to provide your sources of respectable scientific research that can assure us all that it's perfectly safe?set
    • I've posted plenty of evidence that points very obviously to it being harmful. All you've done is shout BULLSHITset
    • Would you happily sleep with a wifi router under your pillow? Or your mobile phone taped to your forehead? Just curious.set
    • do you not carry your phone in your pocket, inches from your nuts?monospaced
    • I do not, but why is that relevant? mekk is suggesting none of these EMF waves are harmful to us... I'm curious to hear his answers.set
    • I was just curious, because you were referencing proximity to the brain, and I felt reproductive organs were just as vulnerable, but often overlooked.monospaced
    • I'm making no claims at all regarding harmfulness or a conspiracymonospaced
    • The state of research is that we can't tell right now if it's harmful or not. Anything else is panic.mekk
    • And no, I would not sleep with a phone taped to my forehead or a router under my pillow, mainly because I think it will be uncomfortable.mekk
    • So if it we can't tell if it's harmful or not, why are they rolling it out? Answer me that. Do you think that's responsible? You're OK with being tested on?set
    • Some of you here really do beg belief. It's astonishing.set
    • You do understand they're installing 20,000 satellites to beam every inch of earth with microwave signals. Your original post is completely ignorant and false.set
    • Because, again, there is no sign of 5G having a direct negative impact on health. Higher frequencies do not mean being exposed to some kind of grill.mekk
    • You believe what you want my ignorant little friend.set
    • Until I can't research for myself (an we both can't), I like to have some trust in the used sources. And a guy on YouTube with no real name is utterlymekk
    • untrustworthy to me. How about some people with a degree in the field that are presenting their results with their name and face and a reputation to defend?mekk
  • Fax_Benson14
    • seems a fairly balanced, objective summaryFax_Benson
    • yepfadein11
    • That's too boring. Needs more alarmism, generalization and conclusion jumpingyuekit
  • ernexbcn12

    No offense, but I think I could find a hundred things to be concerned more about than 5G. We got this incredible thing called the internet with access to so much knowledge, yet also so easy for people to fell into conspiracies and misinformation.

    • My problem in this case is the lack of information, governmental bodies are selling the rights to use these frequencies before the technology has been developedkingsteven
    • and doing so in such a forceful way (primarily the FCC) that they're inviting the conspiricy theories. There aren't many technologies using these wavelengthskingsteven
    • So noone can tell you that the level of exposure that the FCC is permitting is safe, the information does not exist.kingsteven
    • As with every other mobile technology, the next generation is rolled out on existing guidelines. it probably wont kill us all vs profit disguised as progresskingsteven
    • I the folks triggered by sets theories aren't actually searching out information themselves, probably wont kill us all but it is fucked up.kingsteven
    • there is abundant information about the frequency spectrum 5G will use, do not spread FUDernexbcn
    • i'm no expert in these matters i'm simply saying that saying that the information isn't out there to conclude that it's not going to have negative effectskingsteven
    • and it's being handled in such a way that it invites conspiracy... i mentioned the FCC and you know RT are just exploiting that to secure a bigger slice of thekingsteven
    • pie for Russia, it doesn't mean it's safe...kingsteven
    • There really aren't any new technologies that don't affect us in a negative way. The radiation from just the screens is fucking us and our children up.formed
    • There is enough evidence out there to warrant real research (high tension causes severe problems, for example). We rush forward, at least in the US, withformed
    • anything that brings profits (GMO's, RoundUp, etc.). I tend to believe everything does something, how much we don't know.formed
    • where were you guys when all the current radio frequencies were established?ernexbcn
    • i was on a higher astral plane and then boom, qbn all over my nokiakingsteven
  • shoes12

    The health hazard that I find more concerning than chemtrails or 5G is the unnamed global memetic pandemic brought on by David Icke exposure. Depending on the amount of exposure it manifests as mild but escalating dissociative disorders, sometimes leading to more severe pathologies like schizophasia and paranoid delusions, and quite possibly brain cancer. That's the real scary stuff. They can't provide us with evidence that Icke exposure is safe because there is none.

    I kind of wish there actually was a genocidal jewish pedophile kabbala, courtesy of the lizard people NWO, so that the Alex Joneses and David Ickes and their shitspreading disciples would be snuffed out. Cleansing the global consciousness, with 5G disruptors from orbit.

    Alas it is delusion all.

    • The delusional think the sane are delusional.set
    • Bless you. Maybe one day you'll realise your mistake. Maybe you'll die ignorant.set
    • Set, I’m not sure if you’re having a go there or not, but when we have access to a ridiculous amount of information via the internet, it’s easy...Ianbolton
    • ... to see how fake news and flat earth conspiracies become more contagious. When you’re suggesting how do we know the earth is round? I know it is...Ianbolton
    • Because I understand how technology works and I’ve seen the complex mapping systems, for example, using nautical information to guide us ROUND the worldIanbolton
  • plash10

    soo, where are we on 5g?

    • they powered it up in the city I live in, everything good so far.uan
    • says "uan the two headed"hans_glib
    • Lol hansfadein11
  • reanimate3

    *bump

    Shopping for a new phone and I noticed many of them are 5G enabled now, even though it isn't available in my area.

    Has anyone here been able to use 5G yet?

    • 5g melted my hand so nohans_glib
    • 5g is coming ... good or bad for you might as well benefit from the speeds if you are going to get bombarded with fake news and radiation everywhere anyways.AQUTE
    • 5G will automatically vaccinate you with the new Corona vaccine giving you the autism. DON"T DO IT!moldero
    • i just need 5g to unlock the screen without looking at it.sted
    • wait til the Covid blows over, just in casefadein11
    • Best avoid for now - 5G will turn your skull to popcorn and your kids will be born with four assholes.face_melter
    • LOL commentsKrassy
    • All this fear mongering makes it seem very cool and edgy to use 5G...it's so extreme man! They couldn't have asked for better marketingyuekit
  • ernexbcn9

    Are these concerns for real or is this another vaccines are bad bullshit? there's a surprising amount of stupidity being passed as facts lately.

    • Read the article Fax posted below, it explains whats going on well. I'm mostly concerned that folks are so willing not to be concerned.kingsteven
    • ^ yes, it is incredibly scary. Utter fucking fuckwit zombies, everywhere.set
  • hans_glib7

    i'll admit i'm totally ignorant about this, but there does seem to be more than a whiff of the antivaxxor hysteria about 5g.

    then again there may well be something to their argument, i dunno. the hysteria makes me a little suspicious tho, as well as the fact that it's quite hard to find first hand information - teh interwebz is flooded with copycat doom mongers, and trying to dig out source info is quite hard

    i did find some material on the ericsson website ( https://www.ericsson.com/en/whit… ) - from the little i've gathered (and understood) about the 5g transmitters is that they only focus their rayguns on receivers and transmitters. so presumably if you don't want to be irradiated then you just need to make sure you don't have a receiver/transmitter, ie a 5g enabled phone.

    • it's the dawn of pervasive computing - 'the internet of things if you will' though, the idea is there will be a transmitter in your everything...kingsteven
    • i want to know more about how devices will 'focus' these signals. i think that part of 5G (the undeveloped technology that will work in the 2 - 100GHz bands)kingsteven
    • is the scariest, as it will probably rely on bouncing signals between devices over short distances...kingsteven
    • so you've got 5 things on your desk, beaming information between themselves. the coffee machine behind you is low, they're all equidistant to your skull...kingsteven
    • Or just don’t have iot devices...hans_glib
    • i was at a thing years ago where a guy demonstrated focusing audio on a spot using beat frequencies generated between two HF transmitters...kingsteven
    • i see the mad conspiracies, but there is an element of 'what i cant see wont harm me' about the sceptics... it seems like a new era of spectral pollution to me.kingsteven
    • aye, but the old school futurist in me knows this technology can make our lives better, the problem is it's incompatibility with capitalism.kingsteven
    • like animals thriving in chernobyl because cancers wont effect them in their natural lifetime someone somewhere is weighing up the risks of this technology inkingsteven
    • terms of profit vs insurance payouts...kingsteven
    • i'm setting up a workshop atm and looking at fine dust extraction (the dust you can't see) looking at the regulation for companies isn't at all close to thekingsteven
    • recommendations, meanwhile folks in mills are developing cancers in their retirement. every mill would go bankrupt if recommendations were enforced...kingsteven
    • same with vehicle emissions, smoking... you cant say the risks aren't real, you can only say that's how society chooses to fuck itself for profit.kingsteven
    • and easier to dismiss the definitively negative side-effects have when they have a latency of decadesFax_Benson
    • Finally some intelligent people ^set
  • Milan7

    Does this mean you shouldn't use 5G WiFi in your house?

    • good questionhotroddy
    • the signal is coming out of your modem so you are fucked either way.hotroddy
    • i think 5ghz from wifi router is different from 5G cell service. I might be wrong on that, but 5ghz has been around for a long time, 5G is new.mantrakid
    • Everyone knows WiFi signals aren't good for you. There are lots of studies of plants not growing well next to routers. 5G is a whole another story though.set
    • Yeah, that's 5GHz wifi, not 5G. '5G' could refer to frequencies between 2GHz (existing 4G allocations) up to 100GHz.kingsteven
    • https://i.imgur.com/…kingsteven
  • kingsteven8

    it's not really 'development' of 5g technologies thats the issue @Bennn, more governments forcing it's rollout by selling off chunks of frequencies to corporations without considering the issues. allowing them to work within outdated guidelines and assess risk based on huge short term profit without concern for longer term health risks.

    pretty much exactly the same way all other mobile technologies have been rolled out tbh. but this one is particularly concerning because there's been less and less time between rollouts to assess the affects on health and the frequencies involved this time can potentially mess with us in ways that previous technologies couldn't.

    and yes 4g causes cancer (continued exposure or higher amplitudes = higher chance), but a lot of things cause cancer. with phones you're at risk because of the proximity of the antenna to your body, with 5g one of the concerns is that this higher frequency radiation will need to travel in focused beams between your devices/ towers etc. so it's not clear that health concerns are addressed by existing guidelines. and (as far as i understand it) a lot of damage from radio frequencies is due to 'microwaving', heating up your body there are concerns that these higher frequencies could interfere with your biology in more complex ways.

    the weather forecasting issue highlights the disregard the government sell off of these frequency bands has to proper research. in a few years weather satellites may not be able to determine between devices on the ground and the frequency emitted by water (and a bunch of other frequencies they in the atmosphere that have allowed us to enjoy increasingly accurate 5 day forecasts during our lifetimes). may not kill us all or assimilate us in to AI but it's concerning for sure...

    • :)set
    • Also, China (Huawei) is playing big time in the 5G game. I dont trust them, so many other people too. Except set ;-)Bennn
    • I never said I trust huawei, I just pointed out how ridiculous you were for being afraid of huawei but happy to use Google or apple or Samsung. That's funny.set
    • set, dont get angry man :) I was making fun of you. Like i've said the other day, I prefer to get spied on by an American company than a Chinese.Bennn
    • Not angry in the slightest. Pretty sure I even finished my comment suggesting that I'm laughing.set
    • Folks are so in to bashing conspiracy theories but jump on Huawei conspiracies pushed by media outlets that have been proven entirely fabricated by Bloombergkingsteven
    • I guess at least the US government are making up shit and planting it in the press to localise 5G profiteering. UK govt. is so fucked it's outsourcing to putkingsteven
    • the money in their own pockets without a care for the economy.kingsteven
    • Well said kingsteven. It will blow peoples minds one day when they realise how much of what they think is real is bullshit, and how much they think is...set
    • ...bullshit is real. The sheer level of deception, manipulation and lies is almost beyond belief. Certainly beyond belief for most.set
    • ... and before the halfwits jump in, I'm not saying I know it all. It's very evident however, that I know a lot more than a lot of people here. Sadly.set
  • PhanLo7

  • yuekit0

    Trump admin is now saying they want a national 5G network instead of leaving it to private companies to build.

    Actually they would create a monopoly where a single company builds the network at the direction of the Pentagon...state capitalism basically.

    https://www.axios.com/white-hous…

    • Chyna-Styleoey_oey
    • It's weird that Republicans would be proposing this but I think it shows the frustration at how slowly it's been rolled out in USA...yuekit
    • Commucapitalismutopian
    • Yankee Doodle Dandy Capitalismutopian
    • 'at the direction of the Pentagon'
      That sounds perfectly normal and above board.
      face_melter
    • weird? since when is it weird for republicans to grant huge govt contracts to their cronies?imbecile
    • "if we install the network, spying on these idiots should be that much easier, right?"imbecile
    • I would be in favor of this, actually, if it meant creating new jobs for lower skilled workers and faster internet for higher skilled liberals to make progressmonospaced
    • I'm not necessarily against it either. I've been thinking for a while USA will move closer to China's economic approach, just out of necessity.yuekit
    • Cue deathboy’s anti-socialist Venezuela rant in 3...2...1_niko
    • What could go wrong?scarabin
    • this would make it difficult to private networks just sayin.sted
    • “‘ faster internet for higher skilled liberals to make progress “Gnash
  • Nairn5