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- ernexbcn1
Tories on course to win majority - exit poll
- lowimpakt1
pack of tory cunts
- Khurram3
Time to get Brexit done now people. No more fucking about.
- Lol.PhanLo
- Less than a month to go and then nothing but blue skies and riches beyond our wildest dreamsBluejam
- Umm, i was being serious, but sarcasm also works. Haha! As if! Not bloody likely! Amirite?? I'm not wrong! :DKhurram
- Seriously though. We have plenty to fight for and bigger more important issues than being part of some Euro-cartel. Let go, move on. We'll be fine.Khurram
- That's the blitz spirit Khurram!PhanLo
- Exactly PhanLo, you get me bruv.Khurram
- Khurram leaving the EU is bad for the climate
How dare youernexbcn - Yeah not like they had years before 2016 to formulate a plan, or the last 3 years to make advances:shapesalad
- https://havewegotafu…shapesalad
- They have an unprecedented majority to get it done now, shapesalad. That's the difference.Khurram
- ernexbcn1
People voted for the guy that promised to wrap brexit once and for all, that's how I interpret this result. Speaking as venezuelan I'm glad the Chavez fanboy Corbyn lost. But that doesn't mean I like Boris, and I also believe brexit was a mistake. You should remain in the EU, it's sad that option did not win.
- Fax_Benson4
Face first into the fridge
- PhanLo1
Brexits coming home!
Kill the poor
- Projectile-2
Well, fuck.
Anyone know a good sniper?
- hans_glib0
thank fuck corbyn is history, tho the price is bozo....
let's hope that stella creasy can be persuaded to step up so we can get things back on an even keel
- The excuses from the ideological wing of the Labour party are many and mad as fuck.Fax_Benson
- another 5 years of conservative neo-liberalism. Fucking hellIanbolton
- hans_glib0
talking of etonian softcocks
- there's something of the hasidic community about this picturehans_glib
- Ultra-orthodox VictorianismFax_Benson
- Almost forgot about this cunt due to the party hiding him during the campaign. FFS people in UK are thick as shite for voting in this party of Charlatans.shapesalad
- yeah but corbynhans_glib
- Sadly voters had to choose between a rock and a hard place.shapesalad
- his apporoval ratings are shit. Seems lots voted for him either to try to resolve brexit or because they trust Labour even less. Doesn't make them all stupidFax_Benson
- Ianbolton0
Hans – I'm a pissed off as Corbyn was probably the only release from neo-liberal Conservative politics. I don't even think his somewhat socialistic ideals were that radical, but I can completely understand how he's lost when he's failed the Brexit voter. It's almost comical how Cameron said we needed a Brexit vote, and all it's done is bring segregation to a country so multicultural it's easy to divide. 5 more years of conservatism is sincerely frightening as a creative, with friends who have worked their entire life in the NHS or as teachers. There is literally no social movement anymore, and it seems as though that is the political goal to implement their control and power.
- The average proper bloke or lass up North, could not put an X next to a party that has Diane Abbott sat next to a London old man that wears an anorak to honourshapesalad
- the fallen of the past wars. That is what killed it for Labour.shapesalad
- Not to mention his stupid stance on Brexit, and lofty socialist manifesto that would increase tax.shapesalad
- "5 more years of conservatism is sincerely frightening as a creative" - i'm intrigued as to why you think this?Morning_star
- i'm pissed off because if labour had offered a sensible alternative - they'd have walked it. but instead they chose ridiculous old style socialist policies...hans_glib
- ...that chime with few people in the uk. fucking momentum, they've got their head in the clouds dreaming of some bs socialist utopiahans_glib
- that doesn't exist, where money grows on trees and the super rich burn in hell. well, life ain't like that is it...hans_glib
- so we're stuck with brexit. thanks a lot corbyn / mcdonnell / abbot et al, you fucking useless cunts.hans_glib
- @hans_glib all the lolztrooperbill
- Russ is mad as hell
https://twitter.com/…Bluejam - Didn't the anti-Brexit side have a chance to stop the whole thing a few months ago? But the Lib Dems and others couldn't bear the idea of Corbyn even asyuekit
- temporary caretaker PM? Lots of blame to go around.yuekit
- pretty much yep. but cancelling Brexit is/was a terrible idea. Let the tories own it, they have a long to do list and when it goes wrong which it willfadein11
- they will be 100% responsible. And those who lent their vote to them in this election will hurt way worse than they did before.fadein11
- i_monk2
Once again the working class has voted against its own interests.
- <Continuity
- yeah but why? Why would they do that?Fax_Benson
- < This is the most arrogant and condescending statement i've heard in a while.Morning_star
- It's true.shapesalad
- morning star's comment is equally arrogant and condescending.shapesalad
- Brexit doesn't benefit them. They'll be the ones made surplus when the market crumbles, they'll be paying more for basic imports, they'll have less mobility.i_monk
- The middle and working classes are readily sold on values and identity, and Cons tie those to policies that objectively hurt those same people.i_monk
- The left is, generally, bad at the moral outrage/lamenting the loss of the glorious past/boo brown people invading, and has a tougher time selling its policies,i_monk
- https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash
- The Labour Party has been sneering at the WC for ages. Smearing them as uneducated racists - it’s no wonder they’ve turned their backs on themGnash
- @Gnash ^ this +infinitytrooperbill
- Examples of the current leadership sneering at the working class? Weren't they mainly far left union types and even pro Brexit in some cases?yuekit
- @yuekit, there aren't any (from the leadership).fadein11
- But look forward to seeing some examples.fadein11
- And yes Corbyn was behind leave for decades, but the right in the party forced a compromise which probably lost the election.fadein11
- Lol, you guys are are funny :)Gnash
- examples please?fadein11
- leadership not members.fadein11
- I'm saying there is perception and then reality. The guy who won is literally named "Alexander de Pfeffel." Real man of the working class there :)yuekit
- the UK is so different to N.America, our media is nearly all right-wing. It's v.different over here but I guess easy to think it's the same as over there.fadein11
- @yuekit, my comments weren't directed at you. "The Labour Party has been sneering at the WC for ages" directed at this nonsense. Members yes, leadership no.fadein11
- Yeah I was responding to Gnashyuekit
- Ya, I guess the wc abandoned Labour because illusions. That makes sense nowGnash
- You don't think the mass media can heavily influence people, especially when it's endlessly attacking one side over the other? haha cmon...yuekit
- It wasn't all that, mainly Brexit but a big factor. Apparently Corbyn's a terrorist. Absurd.fadein11
- To be fair, Corbyn is pretty far to the left and was always going to have an uphill fight to get elected. But many of the attacks on him were completelyyuekit
- ridiculous from what I could tell. I seem to remember right after he was chosen as leader there was a big controversy about him not signing the national anthemyuekit
- loudly enough at a ceremony lol. If the working class (or anyone) made decisions based on nonsense like that, of course they are not getting the full picture.yuekit
- Indeed yuekit. He wasn't even that radical, pretty normal across Europe but he certainly was painted that way. There were big problems though and as faxfadein11
- said it was a middle class university educated movement that didn't speak to traditional Labour voters esp with Brexitfadein11
- thrown into the mix. Ironic that years of austerity + Brexit made Labour heartlands choose a party that has zero desire to improve their lives.fadein11
- Even by European standards I think Corbyn was pretty far left, especially on foreign policy. And that may have been his undoing...it's one thing to have ayuekit
- someone like Trump get elected who is personally unstable but shares the same worldview as a lot of American military types. But Corbyn was willing toyuekit
- criticize Israel, question whether we should be selling arms to Saudi Arabia, ask whether the UK should be paying for nuclear arms, etc.yuekit
- Not saying he is wrong...he's probably right on many issues. But a worldview like that is completely unacceptable to a lot of people in power.yuekit
- yep for sure.fadein11
- Blair's foreign policy (Iraq, WMD, Kelly etc.) was seen as a massive betrayal to many many Labour voters who fled. Corbyn's stance on that was v.appealing.fadein11
- Especially after how many arms have been sold to Saudis for war in Yemen.fadein11
- By not that radical I meant renationalisation of railways and other infrastructure. Quite normal in Europe. And a smallish rise in Corporation tax, yet stillfadein11
- way lower than France and Germany. The railways should be a bigger scandal than it is. Most of ours are run by European nationalised railways at a huge profit.fadein11
- We as tax payers in UK actually subsidise nationalised railway services elsewhere in Europe. It's bizarre.fadein11
- There was some good stuff on offer but as you say he was always going to be a target of the establishment and our majority right-wing press had a field day.fadein11
- re: railways, as customers not tax payers I should've said.fadein11
- the media barely got started on him in truth. Not singing the anthem and looking scruffy IS a big issue, unfortunately. It's stupid but it is news.Fax_Benson
- The media destroyed him. But he was an easy target. Way too easy. It went way deeper than scruffiness and national anthems.fadein11
- Have you seen his brother? They stayed away from his ex wife and their split, his weird relationship with D Abbott. His public school bg.Fax_Benson
- They were more respectful of his private life than they were of Johnson and previous Labour leaders. Remember the shit Cherie Blaire got?Fax_Benson
- the media are fucking awful but Corbyn's treatment wan't out of the ordinary.Fax_Benson
- Abbott r'ship was mentioned a lot. He went to prep school and then grammar and also learnt that via the media.fadein11
- But yes I guess the targetted what hurt most, terrorist sympoathiser, anti-semite etc. But yep I know others have also suffered. The endless whiningfadein11
- from his disciples about BBC bias was highly irritating. If they had focussed more time on something else things may have gone a little better.fadein11
- Fax_Benson3
Labour just isn't authentic anymore. People don't believe it. It's got nothing to do with the average person in the street. It's socialism done to the people, not for and by the people. It's a crutch for the fragile identities of Momentum activists.
I've said it before but these people go to university, choose left and think doing so deserves the gratitude of the working class. They're so busy claiming to be fighting the forces of capitalist oppression they don't even notice that the people they claim to represent don't give a shit about that worldview. People see through it and don't want to be treated like needy plebs by overgrown students playing politics. It's where working class conservatism comes from and this Corbynism has always pretended that such a thing doesn't exist.
Corbynistas have stolen the keys to the Labour party and crashed it into a ditch. And now it's full of twats and stuck in a ditch.
- +1Gnash
- I think you're right.
A lot of those people would feel as awkward as Boris in communities outside their bubble.PhanLo - they go to rallies and marches and do whatever the fuck activists do and it FEELS authentic - it's a lot more than I do. And that's the point.Fax_Benson
- There is also communities that are so fucked up over generations that it would take a long term plan to fix them. At least where I live anyway.PhanLo
- The English don't want to be part of Europe. Why's that so hard to understand?Khurram
- Labour's fault was ignoring it's instincts and pandering to the Europhile urban intelligenstia.Khurram
- Sitting on the fence on an issue over which there should have been no equivocation.Khurram
- Best part was seeing the grin wiped off Jo Swinson's smug face. "Oh we'll just cancel the democratic will of the people cos we don't like it" Umm, no.Khurram
- Time for Scottish independence, a united Ireland, and the final retreat of the 400-year-old English empire.Khurram
- England is going to get colonized by America, completing the total reversal of the British empire.yuekit
- Ok, that might not be good... Shit :-/Khurram
- I heard someone argue that the American Empire is just the continuation of the British Empire. Like when Rome relocated to ConstantinopleKhurram
- Britain was never run by Europe, will be fun paying 2 grand for an ambulance in a few years.PhanLo
- Labour hasn't been authentic since 1997 or longer. Blair got in because he made a deal with Murdoch and look what happened...fadein11
- This was an election based on Brexit and if it had been Corbyn's choice he would've backed leave like he has for most of his political career like his mentorfadein11
- before. The only authentic part of Labour was probably Corbyn, the rest were middle class, well to do North London momentum types. They never spoke to thosefadein11
- who traditionally supported the party. I agree with a lot you say but Brexit killed it, his fence sitting for 3 years to appease the other half of the party. Iffadein11
- he'd risked all and 100% supported the 'will of the people' like he wanted to deep down the result would have been much closer but still a defeat,fadein11
- because the establishment always wins elections in this country. What shocks me is how this new swathe of people engaging with politics seem to have no ideafadein11
- how politics or elections have always worked in this country. if the activists had spent less time blaming the BBC and talking to the voters who jumped shipfadein11
- things may have been way different. Social media is unbearable right now. Some of the pages I follow have gone into full meltdown over the result.fadein11
- I have no idea what the answer is but it certainly isn't Boris or should I say Cummings because he's in control now.
There is talk of a calmer more moderatefadein11 - Boris now he has his mandate, let's hope so.fadein11
- sorry for going all noteboy here, just back from a xmas do ;)fadein11
- Corbyn is the archetypal middle class, well-to do North London pseud playing at working class politics. He's authentic in and to his own worldFax_Benson
- 36 years of backbench activism? wow, how do you get authentic then?fadein11
- disclaimer: I am not a Corbynista. But he seems the real deal to me (in terms of genuine lifelong socialism) aside from not actually being down a pit.fadein11
- he's an authentic backbench activist. Maybe the most authentic ever. It hasn't helped. He's committed to the activism, not the action.Fax_Benson
- And that is why he should never have been leaser. But who knows what difference it would make, the leader certainly doesn't run the Labour party anymore.fadein11
- Leader*fadein11
- PhanLo2
- I bet this Brexit mess has just been content fodder for endless news docs on BBC 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... A husky-voiced Brit narration w/open E stab on a Stratocasterrobotron3k
- And lots of looming shots showing only the worst weather mixed with unsteady handheld.robotron3k
- 'Kin London. Make the regions relevant or they will kick the shit out of the UK trying to do it themselves.********
- https://qz.com/72796…********
- funny how corbyn was the best thing since sliced bread last week now everyones hanging him out to drytrooperbill
- @peterpancake - actually you're probably right. the best intentions but it will be a challenge to balance it alltrooperbill
- @trooper, who thought Corbyn was the best thing since sliced bread aside from students and momentum?fadein11
- also, the Labour party have been totally divided since he was elected leader. have you been following the news at all?
He was the most derided leader of thefadein11 - Labour party in history, from nearly all angles.fadein11
- Fax_Benson1
Arsenal fans singing 'oh Jeremy Corbyn' while getting humped by northern nouveau riche billionaires in blue is beyond ironic.
