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- Fax_Benson3
Labour just isn't authentic anymore. People don't believe it. It's got nothing to do with the average person in the street. It's socialism done to the people, not for and by the people. It's a crutch for the fragile identities of Momentum activists.
I've said it before but these people go to university, choose left and think doing so deserves the gratitude of the working class. They're so busy claiming to be fighting the forces of capitalist oppression they don't even notice that the people they claim to represent don't give a shit about that worldview. People see through it and don't want to be treated like needy plebs by overgrown students playing politics. It's where working class conservatism comes from and this Corbynism has always pretended that such a thing doesn't exist.
Corbynistas have stolen the keys to the Labour party and crashed it into a ditch. And now it's full of twats and stuck in a ditch.
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- I think you're right.
A lot of those people would feel as awkward as Boris in communities outside their bubble.PhanLo - they go to rallies and marches and do whatever the fuck activists do and it FEELS authentic - it's a lot more than I do. And that's the point.Fax_Benson
- There is also communities that are so fucked up over generations that it would take a long term plan to fix them. At least where I live anyway.PhanLo
- The English don't want to be part of Europe. Why's that so hard to understand?Khurram
- Labour's fault was ignoring it's instincts and pandering to the Europhile urban intelligenstia.Khurram
- Sitting on the fence on an issue over which there should have been no equivocation.Khurram
- Best part was seeing the grin wiped off Jo Swinson's smug face. "Oh we'll just cancel the democratic will of the people cos we don't like it" Umm, no.Khurram
- Time for Scottish independence, a united Ireland, and the final retreat of the 400-year-old English empire.Khurram
- England is going to get colonized by America, completing the total reversal of the British empire.yuekit
- Ok, that might not be good... Shit :-/Khurram
- I heard someone argue that the American Empire is just the continuation of the British Empire. Like when Rome relocated to ConstantinopleKhurram
- Britain was never run by Europe, will be fun paying 2 grand for an ambulance in a few years.PhanLo
- Labour hasn't been authentic since 1997 or longer. Blair got in because he made a deal with Murdoch and look what happened...fadein11
- This was an election based on Brexit and if it had been Corbyn's choice he would've backed leave like he has for most of his political career like his mentorfadein11
- before. The only authentic part of Labour was probably Corbyn, the rest were middle class, well to do North London momentum types. They never spoke to thosefadein11
- who traditionally supported the party. I agree with a lot you say but Brexit killed it, his fence sitting for 3 years to appease the other half of the party. Iffadein11
- he'd risked all and 100% supported the 'will of the people' like he wanted to deep down the result would have been much closer but still a defeat,fadein11
- because the establishment always wins elections in this country. What shocks me is how this new swathe of people engaging with politics seem to have no ideafadein11
- how politics or elections have always worked in this country. if the activists had spent less time blaming the BBC and talking to the voters who jumped shipfadein11
- things may have been way different. Social media is unbearable right now. Some of the pages I follow have gone into full meltdown over the result.fadein11
- I have no idea what the answer is but it certainly isn't Boris or should I say Cummings because he's in control now.
There is talk of a calmer more moderatefadein11 - Boris now he has his mandate, let's hope so.fadein11
- sorry for going all noteboy here, just back from a xmas do ;)fadein11
- Corbyn is the archetypal middle class, well-to do North London pseud playing at working class politics. He's authentic in and to his own worldFax_Benson
- 36 years of backbench activism? wow, how do you get authentic then?fadein11
- disclaimer: I am not a Corbynista. But he seems the real deal to me (in terms of genuine lifelong socialism) aside from not actually being down a pit.fadein11
- he's an authentic backbench activist. Maybe the most authentic ever. It hasn't helped. He's committed to the activism, not the action.Fax_Benson
- And that is why he should never have been leaser. But who knows what difference it would make, the leader certainly doesn't run the Labour party anymore.fadein11
- Leader*fadein11