The Healthy Thread
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- pango1
tldr: is ceramic coated cookware safe? we don't know.
- porcelain enamel coated cast iron is superiorimbecile
- yes after jumping into cookware rabbit hole, i've found a consensus. enamel cast iron, cast iron, stainless steel, carbon steel, real ceramic are all deemed topango
- be safer than teflon, and ceramic coated cookware. and safe in general.pango
- safe and some what none stick options are: cast iron, enamelled cast iron or carbon steel, carbon steel, stainless steel. but all required preheating.pango
- preheating takes time and experience. that's why it's harder to learn and less convenient. but general rule is preheat the pan till 200F with out oil for it topango
- become none stick. however frozen food can drop the temperature of the pan, so you need to watch out for that.pango
- I'm cast iron myself, but have always heard make water dance before you use your pan, i.e. leidenfrost effectimbecile
- i think occurs at 320F - 390Fpango
- but for none stick purpose above 200F is good enough.pango
- All you need is a carbon steel frying pan and a cast iron casserole pot.shapesalad
- shapesalad1
- Forever Capitalismutopian
- I found this video hard to fap toautoflavour
- shapesalad1
- As a species we are slowly contaminating our environment and selves... end of civilisation stuff.shapesalad
- tldr. its' safe if you dont heat it over 450f, scratch it, wash it in dishwasher. however not safer for people who makes it.pango
- or live around people who makes it.pango
- but also buy or use none stick pans as little as possible.pango
- shapesalad2
Avoid those veg/soya/seed oils at all costs!
Which means avoiding crisps and all those other junk processed foods.
Extra virgin Olive oil / Lard / Beef fat (wagyu is best, aldi have it in).
- drgs2
"Scientists researching possible candidates for treating Alzheimer's disease found exercise outperformed all tested drugs for the ability to reverse dysregulated gene expression."
https://www.nature.com/articles/…"High fitness in middle age reduces the chance of dementia by ninety percent"
https://www.ergo-log.com/high-fi…- Move you fat ass you lazy old gits.shapesalad
- makes senseYakuZoku
- drgs-2
"New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain"
https://www.cell.com/cell-metabo…
https://www.abdn.ac.uk/news/1207…Debate
- Yeah, call me old school, but I think that it's eating calories in excess of your TDEE without exercising that makes you fat. And seeing as fat has 9 kcal/gramContinuity
- ... it won't take long on a steady diet of burgers and pizza.Continuity
- It's all about being fit. Under-fueling is also bad. A study showed that fasting makes mice live longer, but only caged laboratory mice.drgs
- Fasting mice running out in the wild lived shorter lives. It's just that fasting is a way to stay fit for non-exercising mice,drgs
- there is nothing good in calorie restriction per se.drgs
- dear study: eat excess sugar, don't exercise, please inform us of the increase of fat in the bodyimbecile
- Continuity2
'Eight glasses of water a day excessive for most people, study suggests'
https://www.theguardian.com/life…
'One issue is that previous estimates of water requirements have tended to ignore the water content of food, which can contribute a substantial proportion of our overall intake.'
- just drink when you're thirstypango
- Bingo.Continuity
- I only drink 3 glasses (49.16 ml) but I use a water retention crystal to improve my body's water absorption. It's worked wonders.palimpsest
- Haha, reminds me of my ex-GF's aunt and uncle (and cousins), who would put rose quartz in all of the water pitchers in the houseContinuity
- And then extoling all of the crackpot psuedo-scientific benefits to me ad nauseam. Took me everything I had not to scream at them they were stupid cuntsContinuity
- Fucking weirdos.Continuity
- It's what 70% of The Healthy Thread sounds like to me. Already 50% is about losing weight.palimpsest
- I hear you!Continuity
- If you can't remember the last time you took a squirt, have some H2O brostoplying
- how big is the glass?MrT
- 16.38 mlpalimpsest
- I did the 75 Hard workout last year. One of the things I had to do was drink 8 pints of water a day. I felt great, but constantly needed to pissIanbolton
- Continuity3
- haha, Been watching him since 2012. Yes carbs, some, at lunch is good.shapesalad
- is this drgs approved?!grafician
- Lots of slow carbs and lots of dietary fibre, of course. I eat nothing but oat
"The poop will slide out of your body" Joe Rogandrgs
- shapesalad-1
- clickbait title, but watch it, proper science, TLDR - go keto to reduce depression etc.shapesalad
- You keto/crossfit creeps are even worse than vegans for proselytising. And I'd rather listen to a vegan any day of the week.Continuity
- "proper science"palimpsest
- prophetone0
- I miss the tofu cart seller when i lived in tokyo, coming down the street selling the fresh tofu.shapesalad
- sofas-1
I recommend trying out minimalist footwear and considering a slow transition to using them as your default shoe / sandal.
- I walk barefoot and never cut my toenails. It's the way god intended it.palimpsest
- I dont recommend running in them.zardoz
- Not those foot gloves?
https://en.wikipedia…drgs - @drgs
Those are foot fetish condoms.palimpsest - zardoz- it's possible and fun, but I would start with walking (considering most people probably spent decades in standard footwear)sofas
- drgs - yes, "foot gloves" are a type of minimal footwearsofas
- what is minimal footwear? Image googled it...non-vegan havaianas?uan
- just sandals or jesus shoesuan
- @uan
https://shoptoehold.…palimpsest
- palimpsest0
If you're spending your life on the couch then no food is the best food.
- If you need to fuel then carbs is where it's at.palimpsest
- Continuity5
shape, you seem to be having an awful lot of difficulty making the distinction between simple carbohydrates, and complex ones, and drawing (harmful) conclusions that 'all carbs are evil'.
So, let me give you a refresher on the basics of carbohydrates that you *should* have learned in primary school health class, at the same time you were learning about the food pyramid.
Complex carbohydrates — so-called because they're formed in long, complex chains — are used by both muscles and the brain for energy. Because of their complexity, they're metabolised more slowly, and any surplus is stored not just in the liver, but also in muscle tissue in the form of glycogen for later use. Compex carbohydrates are essential for powering your body through, well, life, and are found in such nutrition-rich sources as fruits, vegetables, legumes, and grains.
And, yes, that includes wheat.
Further, complex carbs can be further sub-divided into starchy carbs (featuring naturally-occuring sugars) and fibrous carbs (containing soluble and insoluble fibre). Both perform essential tasks in maintaining good health.
Simple carbohydrates are largely refined sugar. The stuff you add to your coffee. That chocolate bar. The HFCS in your can of Coke. Those carbs — by virtue of their refinement — are absolutely devoid of nutrition, and are responsible for massive blood sugar spikes that lead to things like diabetes and obesity.
Telling people to only eat 100 g of carbs per day is utterly irresponsible. If you're doubting starchy and fibrous carbs are any good for you, the hint is in the word that describes carbs themselves: macronutrient. Nutrient. As in: fucking good for you.
If you want to go all-in with new-agey, pseudo-scientific arse-gravy that tells you to stop eating all carbs ever, fine, but that's on you. Keep it to yourfuckingself.
And just so you know ...
I eat 3 010 kcal per day at the moment, with a macronutrient breakdown of:
Protein: 194 g/day
Carbohydrates: 328 g/day
Fat: 97 g/dayI'm 183 cm tall, weight 80 kg, and am at sub-12% BF.
How do I do it?
Well, for one, I exercise. I lift 5 days a week.
For another, I eat a balanced diet that makes sure I account for all of my macronutrient needs throughout the week. That balanced diet contains protein from both food and supplements, starchy and fibrous carbs from grains (including wheat) and nuts, fruits, and veg, and healthy unsaturated fats, as well as animal fats.And guess what? I'm at the healthiest I've ever been, putting on lean muscle mass, have no problems with my liver or cholesterol, am not even close to being diabetic, and am in excellent cardio health. Not bad for 328 g/day of carbs, amirite?
And another thing you may need reminding about:
1 g of both protein and carbohydrates each contain 4 kcal.
1 g of fat (regardless of source or nature) contains 9 kcal. Over *double* the number of calories are the other two macronutrients.The point? It's not fucking carbs that will make you fat and diabetic. It's eating a number of calories in enormous surplus of your daily calorie needs that will make you fucking fat and diabetic.
So, shape, if you're going sit there and dispense health 'wisdom' about cutting out essential macros, go with:
1) Reducing overall calorie intake to below your TDEE to reduce fat, if required. Otherwise eat at your TDEE;
2) reducing the amount of fat you intake *first* to ensure you have enough energy through carbs, and enough muscle mass maintenance with protein (0.8 g/kg body weight for the average — mostly sedentary, which I suspect you of being — adult, and between 1.6-2.2 g/kg body weight for active adults who exercise frequently and regularly).Fucking hell.
- lol, when I saw you list your macros, I knew you were one of them barbellers. Serious question: how much of the 194 protein is powder?garbage
- TBH, 79 grams. Trying to eat that much protein in a day from whole foods is mission impossible, because it would throw both my macros and overall calorie intakeContinuity
- ... through the roof.Continuity
- Seriously. I don't believe anybody that claims they hit those macros without powder.garbage
- I'm only bodyweight / free weights these days. When I used to lift I was on a ridiculous powder / supplement routine and.. my toilet hated my guts. Literally.garbage
- 100g = potatoes, whole grain rice, etc. but I stand corrected anyway, and thank you for an informative post.shapesalad
- @cont Forgot to ask: Do you have a single bucket of powder that you recommend? The top of my fridge has a lonely spot.garbage
- I use this stuff:
https://www.myprotei…Continuity - The flavours are actually palatable, and it doesn't have that off-putting funky smell whey protein often hasContinuity
- The only way to live without carbs is if you're sitting on your ass all day.
Carbs are the best fuel.palimpsest - Cheers, I'll look into it. I might just start eating more meat and get back on the Animal Pak.garbage
- Something about swallowing 8 pills in the morning makes one think "welp, better make this worth it".garbage
- @garbage
What pills are you swallowing?palimpsest - Continuity, do you do cardio?drgs
- Nah, no *intentional* cardio right now, cos I'm bulking. That said, I walk almost everywhere, and I'm not really all that idle.Continuity
- https://www.pulsin.c…shapesalad
- People from Ray Peat camp love carbs, btw
http://haidut.me/?s=…drgs - ^ get the non-flavoured ones, mix faba bean, pea and whey proteins ones with wheat grass and spirulina = perfect protein powder.shapesalad
- @pamp https://www.amazon.c…garbage
- ^ MIA there is creatine monohydrate. Besides protein, it's a must-have.Continuity
- #detoxpalimpsest
- Creatine farts.. now there's a smell I've not smelt in a long time.garbage
- creatine makes you bald.zardoz
- shapesalad1
Cut sugars (carbs/wheat based foods) = feel absolutely amazing.
- I'm going back to this lifestyle...managed to get rid of sugar for years in my diet...but started consuming candies 2 month ago again and I lost control :-)uan
- blurry eyes and belly fat are the result I have to deal with now.
Need to find a good substitute for brain energy now.uan - coffee, no sugar?grafician
- mct oilYakuZoku
- shapesalad1
Proteins —
• Which sources are good. (All these meat alternative ones are bad news).
• When best to eat them.
• How much you need.
- Continuity3
Eat your fucking carbs, FFS.
- nope. max 100g.shapesalad
- Nope. I eat 328 g/day, including wheat-based..
And I'm sub-12% BF.Continuity - Bitches don't know.palimpsest
- shapesalad2
Watch at your own risk - you may not want to drink ever again after watching it.
- grafician0
- Pretentious much. She also once said she hates eating healthy and only eats fatty stuff, pasta & cheese and avoids any salad or broccoli.NBQ00
- She used to be cool before she met Musk and then turned into this.NBQ00
- She was always like this. Getting famous via musk just got the word outGnash
- She was always arty farty but not as pretentious as when she got with Musk.NBQ00
- sounds like a huberman podcastshapesalad
- she's trolling.inteliboy
- drgs0
Virtual communication curbs creative idea generation
https://www.nature.com/articles/…Discuss