Circumcision

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  • shaft14

    When you tell people anywhere in Europe that in America most men are circumcised at birth, the first reaction is always disbelief — you either have to be joking or were misunderstood.

    • Why would you wilfully butcher your sons penis?PhanLo
    • For science.palimpsest
    • Also, username checks out.palimpsest
    • LolYakuZoku
    • the reason was for hygiene, now people are questioning that.doesnotexist
    • There's no hygienic reason for it, that was just made up by people thousands of years ago who also believed in talking bushes.PhanLo
    • Yeah, for hygiene.
      In the 21st century.
      "Not a belief system".
      palimpsest
    • I just read a story from a 16 year old who was never taught to clean the smegma from his uncircumcised penis. It was so caked that it damaged the nerves.mathinc
    • Did he win the lawsuit?palimpsest
    • hahahaha! Amazing.PhanLo
    • It's improving. 58.3% of newborns are circumcised in the US. Eventually we'll catch up to the rest of the world. We're slow with that progress thing.formed
    • It did not start because of "hygiene". That's trying to post-rationalize something that is archaic.formed
    • Circumcision is retarded as fuck and gay as hell.crazyprick
    • totally read that as "the first erection is always disbelief"fadein11
    • it actually did start like that in the us. they circumsize everyone unless you explicitly tell them not to.doesnotexist
    • https://www.medicine…doesnotexist
    • It's specifically designed to create trauma early on so one can be callous and lack empathy in later life. It's child abuse.newcunt
    • The idea that God created one in his image but you then need to cut off the end of the penis is just about the most idiotic thing imaginable.newcunt
    • the idea of a god is the most idiotic thing imaginablemonospaced
    • There are better, more reasonable arguments for trimming your children.palimpsest
    • mono knows what happens when we die, but won't sharedoesnotexist
    • You got it, chief:
      Rigor mortis, postmortem lividity, decomposition.
      palimpsest
    • nobody knows what happens when we die, not that is relevantmonospaced
    • Live your truth.palimpsest
    • Mmmm, trimmingsGnash
    • Cise mattersstoplying
    • ^apparentlystoplying
    • I think the idea that the complexity of life is a meaningless random accident is the lowest form of human intelligence.newcunt
    • lol, of course you domonospaced
    • so you prefer to give up learning about reality in favor of chalking it up to a “god,” and call that intelligent, live your truthmonospaced
    • just as much as no one knows where a possible god comes from, we can't possibly know what happened before the singularity. it could be a god, just unlikely theephix
    • god of the bible.ephix
    • hey, go ahead and redefine god any way you see fit to fill the gap, people have done that for millennia to fit their needsmonospaced
    • I go by what one of the dictionary definitions is.ephix
    • US has the highest percentage of people circumcised for none-religious reason + none science reason.pango
    • Yup. We're ass-backward on a ton of things here. 2 steps forward, 1 back.formed
    • You're still moving forward but at half the speed.palimpsest
    • mono you good? jfcdoesnotexist
    • of course I'm good, I can't control how mouth-frothing triggered garbage is going to get every time anyone criticizes religionmonospaced
    • Well yes but they cut the end of your dick off so obviously you're going to be damaged. It all makes sense now.newcunt
    • Arnt we all damaged? In the grand scheme of things.pango
    • Some more than others.newcunt
    • That couldn't be more true. Seriously, you need to go see a therapist. Hope you get well soon.pango
    • I need to see a therapist because I have different opinions to you? LOL you people are fucked.newcunt
    • No. Because you are unhinged.
      Take care bro.
      pango
    • You think I'm unhinged because I have different opinions to you. You people don't even understand your own stance. lolnewcunt
    • there is different opinion. and then there's is relentlessly sharing ones opinion when nobody wants none of it.pango
    • you're like a preacher on the intersection with a mega phone. "THe END Is NIGH! SURRENDER YOU'RE SELF TO THe LORD!!"pango
    • And when someone finally offers you a platform to expose your ideas you go into hiding.palimpsest
  • PhanLo10

    • Here we go again!
      :D
      palimpsest
    • They done hoodwinked us again!PhanLo
    • Been here since the DAWN of QBN ... and just now I see that we have a Circumcision thread. The more you Know.Ramanisky2
    • I was here before you.palimpsest
    • QBN - where foreskins become contentious.CyBrainX
    • Yay, the Male Genital Mutilation thread is back!

      Ugh.
      Continuity
    • Love my circ. Would chop it again if I couldnb
    • It's all good in the hood.utopian
    • I don’t think anyone who’s circumcised would consider themselves mutilated. Lol.monospaced
    • My body my choice.palimpsest
    • I understand religious, cultural & even aesthetic reasons (looks dope AF). But nipping your churren for science is on a whole nother level.palimpsest
    • Front page lolmonospaced
    • @mono many rightfully feel mutilated, there are social movements based on this.
      https://en.wikipedia…
      sofas
    • "I deserved it."palimpsest
    • There might be some. Doubt it.monospaced
    • Do you know who else doesn't feel mutilated?

      People that weren't circumcised.
      palimpsest
    • Ear piercings are also a type of mutilation but it's for aesthetic reasons.palimpsest
    • In South America it's culturally acceptable to pierce baby girls' ears. But we don't chop the lobes off for health reason. They learn to wash behind their ears.palimpsest
  • sofas6

    I get that parents who circumcise their baby don't usually do it to get off sexually (I assume most get off socially by conforming), but we are talking about a sexual organ with no consent given, so I think it at least borderlines sexual assault even if it is an indirect, assault by proxy, by a doctor who swore to do no harm.

    There are much worse types of sexual assault, but still.. Also, this type will have physical effects for life (some claim psychological trauma too).

    Sexual assault according to Wikipedia:
    Sexual assault is a sexual act in which a person is coerced or physically forced to engage against their will, or non-consensual sexual touching of a person. Sexual assault is a form of sexual violence, and it includes rape (such as forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration or drug facilitated sexual assault), groping, child sexual abuse, or the torture of the person in a sexual manner.[1][2]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se…

    Random people saying infant circumcision is sexual assault:
    https://www.change.org/p/stop-th…
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/c…
    https://menz.org.nz/2015/why-is-…

    Also see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et…

    BTW, one of the Jewish reasons is that it's done to make sex less enjoyable, same as female genital mutilation (in some cases):
    "Maimonides (Moses ben Maimon "Rambam", CE 1135–1204), who apart from being a great Torah scholar was also a physician and philosopher, argued that circumcision serves as a common bodily sign to members of the same faith. He also asserted that the main purpose of the act is to repress sexual pleasure, with the strongest reason being that it is difficult for a woman to separate from an uncircumcised man with whom she has had sex.[90]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br…

    Also, to women saying that medicine is sexist towards them, I assume medicine is interested more in money than sex or gender:
    In 2011, circumcision was one of the most common procedures performed during hospital stays in the U.S. There were approximately 1.1 million hospitalizations with a circumcision, a rate of 36 stays per 10,000 population. This was a decrease of 16% from 1997, when there was a rate of 43 stays per 10,000 population. It was the second-most common procedure performed on patients under one year of age.[22]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr…

    I don't mean to be an asshole, so correct me if you think i'm wrong (I don't assume to know it all), but I think you should avoid doing this to your babies. It's irreversible and usually unnecessary. If you already did it, you can apologize, we all make mistakes, this isn't the end of the world, you are probably a great parent and much worse mistakes could be made, explain your rationale and educate your kid not to do it to their future baby.

    Some people try to restore their foreskin using different techniques, but I don't feel like getting into that
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fo…

    • you put this much time and thought into your anti circumcision rant and start off by implying parents might do it for pleasure? gtfomonospaced
    • i was sexually assaulted by this postGnash
    • @Gnash #MeToo
      @mono are the parents coerced, or is it something one must do?
      sofas
    • wow a lot of time and thought went into this. I think its abuse as well.mugwart
    • it's not sexual assault, it's just wrong. Same with FGM.Gnash
    • It is wrong. People will do anything to be the 'same' and 'conform'. It's terrible it's still a real discussion.formed
    • Holy 4 year old thread, Batman!Akagiyama
    • nobody circumcises to "get off sexually," and the idea that it's "wrong" is entirely just an opinionmonospaced
    • It is there for a reason.ApeRobot
    • The main argument in the U.S. when I was growing up seemed to be "it's normal." Now seems like more people question it which is good.yuekit
    • cicumcicsion is wrong for girls but for some reason it's okay for boys. both are idioticscarabin
    • ^ yup, it is "wrong". You are cutting away skin that's there for a reason.formed
    • In your opinion.monospaced
    • lol, right, I am also against tattooing/branding a newborn, although that can at least be partially reversed later one.formed
    • I'd venture to say that most, if not nearly all, circumcised men are glad they are.monospaced
    • Haha, well, they don't have much of a choice, now do they? And yet the numbers of circumcised kids is declining...so...formed
    • It's not because they don't have a choice. It's because they like being circumcised.monospaced
    • Dick cheese.severian
    • LOL, you can really see that this sofas has some hang ups. Too funny.severian
    • But yeah people are labelling way too many things sexual assault these days. It's just a weird (and totally unnecessary, IMO) religious custom.yuekit
    • I wouldn't do it to my kids but ultimately probably doesn't make much difference in their life one way or the other as long as it remains normal.yuekit
    • Now if you were the only person who was circumcised...then it would be really messed up :/yuekit
    • I got off from having my kids circumcised. So did my wife, the nurse, and the doctor who administered it. Lol the things people get worked up about.OP31
    • it's not a general practice in the UK but doesn't it have health benefits, i.e. not spreading the virus that can cause cervical cancer?fadein11
    • I always presumed it was so common in US on health and not just religious grounds. I may be talking out of my ringpiece though.fadein11
    • Easier hygiene and decreased risk of UTI and some STDs.OP31
    • lol @ thissince1979
    • your presumption is correct, fadein ... almost entirely for health reasonsmonospaced
    • Nonsense. The only time it's applicable is if you are having unprotected sex all the time, which is stupid. It's post-rationalization...formed
    • That might be true, but it's still the REASON it's so common in the US, and recommended by pediatric professionals.monospaced
    • aside from inane religious ritual, the ONLY reason it's still common is that dad wants son to look the same. period.Gnash
    • there's not one guy who promotes cutting that isn't cut himselfGnash
    • You're right Gnash, I can't wait to remove my son's tonsils and wisdom teeth too so we can be even more alike!OP31
    • ah, let the false equivalencies begin!Gnash
    • Just being sarcastic since you already stated a "fact" that its the ONLY reason.OP31
    • @Gnash, the medical community promotes it for health reasons, sorrymonospaced
    • many mothers prefer circumcised penises and also want their sons to resemble their fathers, and it's not just an inane religious practice at allmonospaced
    • chop away, then. mom's preferences are more important.Gnash
    • just saying that it's not as simple as you make it out to bemonospaced
    • it is, though. it's a non-therapeutic operation. it's about feels, not health.Gnash
    • that's one opinion, but if you ask doctors who focus in this area, many would disagree and say it's about health, and that IS the reason in the USAmonospaced
    • for example, I'm getting my son circumcised for health reasons, not for "the feels" as you so crudely and ignorantly put itmonospaced
    • just like millions and millions of other parents in the US have for decadesmonospaced
    • it's a religious / cultural practice in search of a “medical” justificationGnash
    • mutilating a 100% functioning and healthy organ for the feels. the risks of not cutting are negligible compared to the risks of the choppingGnash
    • studies showing some HIV transmission benefit in sub-saharan Africa have not been replicated in developed countriesGnash
    • the only relevant risk a UTI -- and even this restricted to the first year of life and is easily treated with antibioticsGnash
    • chopping without a valid medical indication needlessly exposes a healthy child to risk.Gnash
    • sorry Monospaced. If a mum wants it cut because her husband has had it done is a cycle of abuse. I think the world needs to address this and start to healmugwart
    • @mugwart, and you'd be 100% wrong, respectfullymonospaced
  • deadsperm13

    • Step 3 update:
      "It’s a very simply [sic] and fast procedure."
      deadsperm
    • Day in the Life of the Trump administrationutopian
    • no Aardvark snoot here. I love my cut cock, and so do the ladies.lambsy
  • palimpsest12

    • We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing. And tomorrow we come back and we cut off your jonson.Wolfboy
    • your tschonsenjagara
  • Bennn12

    QBN, your #1 source to be up to date in graphic design and circumcision! Since 1999!

  • Krassy2

    Andrew Yang, Upstart Democratic Presidential Candidate, Comes Out Against Circumcision

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/an…

    • Dayummm, AOC has some competition...robotron3k
    • asians don't curcumcise. the forskin is needed to show length.hotroddy
    • it's already all over for this wing-nut.utopian
    • He's right, though, parents should be educated. Unfortunately, religion dictates so much in America and actual knowledge is rarely valued.formed
    • Yes. Most of america is Jewish.monospaced
    • "actual knowledge"Hayoth
    • pro anteaterBonSeff
    • lol, mono :PPonyBoy
    • something that will be hard to change. do you want to have a conversation with your kid as to why your penis looks different?hotroddy
    • so you cut because you cant handle a conversation? Makes sense.formed
    • He meant circumsize upper eyelidsBustySaintClaire
    • how would your kid know what your penis looks like?_niko
    • No, if I had to cut myself he would end up being au natural.hotroddy
    • also it's the same conversation about why you went to church and he doesn't or why you smoked and he doesn't or a million other things that we don't do any..._niko
    • ...more because we know better and times have changed._niko
    • But.. #health. Circumcision is the new paleo diet, anti-vaxing craze. Ya'll needs to get #woke.deadsperm
    • @_niko
      If you're not Michael Jackson and have a private bathroom in every bedroom your kids are probably going to eventually see you naked. #nopedo
      deadsperm
    • @_niko
      It's possible for somebody to see your penis without you trying to shove it down their orifice. #truestory
      deadsperm
    • uncut hogs are gross. Straight up disgusting.severian
    • dude, chicks (and dudes i guess) will suck your dick after its been deep in their ass, trust me they don't care if you're uncut. best sex is the dirty kind :)_niko
    • ^#truth. I think that concludes this discussion.formed
    • says the guys with cheese catchersseverian
    • Every woman I've ever asked is disgusted by uncut dick.monospaced
    • cheese catchers lol. are you a hillbilly? do you have running water?_niko
    • really? disgusted? here's an erect uncut dick: https://cdn-so.fanta…_niko
    • vs a cut dick: http://images.juicyg…_niko
    • pretty much the same i'd say except you get 60% more pleasure with a natural one. so, fuck them bitches lol._niko
    • also vaginas are just as susseptable to smegma as dicks, should women start cutting labias, lips, clitoral hoods off too? are you discussed by uncut pussies lol_niko
    • This is the real story here —
      Monspaced apparently regularly talks to women about the merits or otherwise of un/cirumcised penii.
      WHY?
      Nairn
    • way to make an assumption and broadcast your overwhelming desire to talk shit about me in a pathetic attempt to get lulz from strangers ...monospaced
    • Is it really that surprising to you I have a ton of close female friends who confide these kinds of things while I am around? Grow up.monospaced
    • Well I've got a ton of first hand experience to contradict your second hand discussions...yet I still don't understand the angerformed
    • Once again. No anger.monospaced
    • Also. My conversations are with people who have first hand experience. Anger is from people who are here only to insult me like total cunts.monospaced
  • _niko6

    A good friend of mine who is Pakistani refused to circumcise his kids which caused a shitstorm with his ultra religious family.

    • I hope they didn't sever ties over it.palimpsest
    • He’s cut off nowGnash
    • He's a no-goodie-hoodie!PhanLo
    • Personal stories like this that pull back the veil are important.Continuity
    • lol I’ll sharia comments with him_niko
    • As long as they don't go over his head.palimpsest
    • Still, I'm happy to know your friend is standing tall like this for something he believes in.Continuity
    • agree, lesser men would shrivel at the thought of going against tradition_niko
    • Thanks for sharing, this is a problem that needed to be uncovered.palimpsest
    • I suspect that this problem is a complex one, pali. I think you'd need to peel back the layers to really get to the core of it.Continuity
    • You're right, there's no clean-cut solution.palimpsest
    • Let's all just try to rollback a little here.fadein11
    • But why, fadey? I'd like to think that progress only happens when we rise to the occasion.Continuity
    • it's a clean cut issue to me.fadein11
    • And we're only looking at the tip of the problem, it stretches centuries.palimpsest
  • detritus8

    I stand by the comment I made first time this thread came around.

    Circumcision is an almost beautifully-devious form of cult lock-in — the most precious part of the ever-fragile male ego, irredeemably and permanently scarred to adhere to a social construct beyond the owner's ability to control.

    As said here recently, it'd be one thing to circumcise a teen or an adult who has the power of choice, as part of their ascent into adulthood, quite another to foist it on a defenceless innocent.

    It leads to what we see here and what hotroddy implies (well, 50% of what he implies) — the learned disgust at what is completely natural. See fyoucher1's post just above.

    It's so weird to me, as I guess it is to circumcised non-Jewish, non-Muslim Americans.

    What I don't get is why circumcised agnostic or atheistic Americans would do anything other than rail at the abuse metted at them by their parents.

    • -fifth paragraph. Fucked editing.detritus
    • My question is - what cult is it that Americans are being locked into?detritus
    • To be honest, I could care less if you were born with a sombrero on it. But it is like wearing a turtleneck.fyoucher1
    • Free Idea: Pink roll-up scarves for willies.detritus
    • circumcision is very normal for non-jewish americans, actuallymonospaced
    • it's not a religious thingmonospaced
    • outside of religious ritual - which is its genesis, it's prevalence in the west began as a way to inhibit masturbation during the victorian era.Gnash
    • as well as misguided ideas about cutting curing some mental disorders, among other nonsenseGnash
    • Yea, mono, but have you ever asked yourself WHY it is normal to you?detritus
    • I have been lately, that's for sure. I am doing it for the real health reasons, plus it looks better :)monospaced
    • Not from over here they don't!detritus
    • well, you're not a gorgeous woman :)monospaced
    • you like cock mono ? because you are so concerned about the 'beauty' of it. btw I bet you can not tell the difference when its erectd_gitale
    • stupid questionmonospaced
  • Nairn7
    • I'll try it, even if I am whole.palimpsest
    • always handy to have one spare in casehans_glib
    • Haha, always there to help out!! I'm sure my colleague saw the website on my screen as i got the most awkward of looksIanbolton
    • The donor section tripped me out lol_niko
  • sarahfailin4

    there is just no need for it! your junk doesn't need any improvement.

    the foreskin is supposed to be the most sensitive part of the penis. guess i'll never know!

    i definitely would not circumcise my kids or anyone else's

    • but, cunts with beards and silly hats know betterfuturefood
    • Bearded sky wizard worshippers with really weird sexual hang-ups always know best.PhanLo
    • It has nothing to do with religion, most of the time, and if one does it, that doesn't make them a "cunt with a beard"monospaced
    • eh, whatevermonospaced
    • Can't imaging God actually approving of this ... Rabbi passes over and he's there like "you did what to a small infant..."mugwart
    • 100% god is up there masturbating to all this madness.PhanLo
    • mono, but that's where it began. Now people do it to conform and be "normal", even though they are the minority in the world. It's a sad and 'tradition'.formed
    • they do it for health reasons, too, and it is the majority in the USA stillmonospaced
    • "health" reasons? Huh? That's nonsense too. Post-rationalizing something people do to conform to a perceived 'normal'.formed
    • 58% in the US and, thankfully, on the decline. 25-30% world wide. 2% in Spain and Sweden, 1% in Japan.formed
    • It's still the majority just like we have bible thumpers, etc., etc.formed
    • So god who is the personification of perfection and created everything, fucked up on our penises requiring us to correct his mistake? How do religitards explain_niko
    • This paradox?_niko
    • a majority. that's the best metricGnash
    • the majority may fool themselves into thinking they're doing it for health.Gnash
    • but "many mothers prefer circumcised penises and also want their sons to resemble their fathers"
      it's cultural and/or religious
      Gnash
    • The US appears to be Disneyland for adults.rabattski
    • It's not cultural or religious for us. It's for health reasons. Just like millions of other people. Stop telling me my reasons aren't real.monospaced
    • not saying they'r not real, they're just incorrect and misinformed.Gnash
    • cut off healthy tissue that might one day fall prey to disease. what other susceptible part of the body gets removed at birth?Gnash
    • The diseases in question are mostly rare in the developed world and are typically avoided by make simple behaviour choices.Gnash
    • and they are otherwise treatable without surgery.Gnash
    • thanks for your opinions, but my reasons certainly are not incorrect or misinformedmonospaced
    • do you have a son?monospaced
    • yup. that's why I know what I'm talking about. I researched the ass off this.Gnash
    • Even one of the docs who wrote 'the' paper for the AAP say he did his son for religious reasons, not medical.Gnash
    • "i had 3000 years of ancestors looking over my shoulder"Gnash
    • your conclusions are incorrect because you're basing them 'reasons' that are incorrectGnash
    • Thanks for your opinion.monospaced
    • an opinion based on the science, not the feelsGnash
    • also my opinion that we went to the moon, vaccines are beneficial, and water is made of hydrogen and oxygenGnash
    • I understand that it's a difficult barrier to overcome. a highly charged topic that's very emotional, so it's difficult to think rationally about.Gnash
    • it's charged because it's full of opinions, like yours, and like mine, and of those who are experts, and those who aren'tmonospaced
    • Climate-change deniers say the same thing. it's just an opinion. (but it's not)Gnash
    • the medical community is overwhelmingly against non-therapeutic circumcision, and that's based on science not opinions.Gnash
    • The AAP's position has been obliterated by nearly every relevant medical communityGnash
    • that's just a fact, not an opinionGnash
    • thanks for the opinion :)monospaced
  • Continuity5

  • Miguex2

    The higyene defense is just as valid as calling anyone without one of these

    a mud butt

  • Gnash6

    Here is the conclusion reached by 38 authorities in child health and epidemiology from the UK, mainland Europe, and Canada in their public rebuke to the AAP in the journal Pediatrics:

    “Only one of the arguments put forward by the American Academy of Pediatrics has some theoretical relevance in relation to infant male circumcision; namely, the possible protection against urinary tract infections in infant boys, which can easily be treated with antibiotics without tissue loss. The other claimed health benefits, including protection against HIV/AIDS, genital herpes, genital warts, and penile cancer, are questionable, weak, and likely to have little public health relevance in a Western context, and they do not represent compelling reasons for surgery before boys are old enough to decide for themselves.”

    • UTI does not occur in 99.85% of circumcised infant males.

      UTI does not occur in 98.5% of uncircumcised infant males
      Gnash
    • Girls have 10x the number of UTIs and no preemptive surgery is recommendedGnash
    • is this a boner of contention for you?
      sorry had to be done :)
      fadein11
    • it's up there with FGMGnash
    • if people really feel the need to mutilate their boys then currently it's their right to do so. just don't use 'science' as the reasoning.Gnash
    • let's make penises whole againfadein11
    • I must be missing something but how does removing the foreskin protect from STDs?yuekit
    • Because isn't the normal means of protection to put something on your dick? Seems kind of backwards (although I'm sure there's some justification).yuekit
    • joking aside I have always found it a little odd. And remember being shocked to discover it was a widespread procedure in the US (regardless of religion).fadein11
    • @yuekit - some research says that uncircumcised penises can harbour a virus that causes cervical cancer in females. I do not know how reliable this is.fadein11
    • evidence that cutting protects against STIs, is contradictory and inconclusiveGnash
    • (there's a vaccine for the virus that causes cervical cancer available to both girls and boys)Gnash
    • also, condom = no virusGnash
    • "but vaccines"fadein11
    • ^ exactly. same goes for the anti-vaxxersGnash
    • I agree with you (for once) gnash. I think it is pretty horrific.fadein11
    • haha. and it has to be over a dick!Gnash
    • I know :)fadein11
    • Lol both of yousfuturefood
  • shapesalad5

    Operations go wrong - no one worry about that in regards to Circumcision? I mean... the is a chance, a % rate, of these procedure going wrong and things getting messed on a scale of 'ok' to 'horrific'. Unless you really need the procedure for serious reasons, why chance it for yourself, or risk it for your offspring.

    • *there is a...*shapesalad
    • https://www.independ…Nairn
    • My 3 y/o was detected with a condition in his kidneys before birth. Basically 1/6 of his kidneys are damaged. His foreskin was also not 'conventional' at birth.deadsperm
    • The specialist we saw said that he might need a circumcision. He gets yearly checkups. When he turned 1 the specialist said it wasn't really necessary.deadsperm
    • We would have been OK with either of his recommendations. We also benefit from universal healthcare.
      My kid is #healthy despite not being on a keto diet.
      deadsperm
    • It’s a very simply and fast procedure (not much of an operation).monospaced
    • It was still unnecessary in our case.
      For health reasons according to the surgeon.
      deadsperm
    • He was getting paid either way.deadsperm
    • @monospaced
      To be clear: if you said a clipped tricked out dick looks badass I would have your back.
      My only issue is claiming it's for health reasons.
      deadsperm
    • I don't see the logic in being anti-flat earth, anti-religion and being pro circumcision for health reasons.deadsperm
    • I personally don't think anyone who circumcises needs to give a reason or make anyone satisfied with a reason.monospaced
    • if their reason is for looks, or tradition, that's their own call and they don't need to answer to internet strangers who might not be happy with the reasonmonospaced
    • Anyway, I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to the original post here from shapesalad.monospaced
    • It's an irreversible decision so that might be where your militantism is coming from.
      It's all good though.
      deadsperm
    • Believing in God, that the earth is flat or dinosaurs are extinct are also personal beliefs that need not be judged.
      Matthew 7:3
      deadsperm
    • I'm OK with anyone acting like an idiot, I've done it many times myself, I will call them them out when they do it in name of science though.deadsperm
    • militantism? not remotely. it's also not an idiotic decision.monospaced
    • @monospaced
      Honestly: I don't considered QBN members as internet strangers that's why it surprises me that you hold this position.
      deadsperm
    • Let's say that I respect your opinion and leave it at that.deadsperm
    • I feel a lot of people around here are extremely judgemental and anti-circumcision, and are demanding some sort of reason for it, then saying there isn't onemonospaced
    • I feel you, man. People act the same way about dinosaur extinction.
      Live the truth.
      deadsperm
    • lolmonospaced
    • Well, let's just say I was deemed in need of circumcision at age 5. But when I became a teenager I felt something didn't look right. Had to have it corrected atshapesalad
    • 18 because it looked like it had been hacked by a junior doctor. It caused a lot of stress during my teenage years. It was more than likely not required.shapesalad
  • palimpsest1

  • utopian3

    UKIT BUMP

  • pr22

    no woman will say no only because you penis is uncircumcised but all of them will tell you that between those two they prefer uncircumcised.

    this is 21st century why would you even conciser putting sharp objects next to your cock?

    • +10Sutteklut
    • Its obvious that you had big jury!armin
    • Many, many women dislike uncircumcised penises.boobs
    • they just arent used to seeing them (at least in the states). uncircumcised is no big deal.alouette
    • My wife always cringes when she sees an uncut one. Like a turtle's head she saysfyoucher1
    • If you ever want a girl to suck his Dick when he is older AND LIKE IT, you will have him clipped at birth! UNCUT dicks are SO UGLY like a SEA WORM.UNCUT_is_GROSS
  • pinkfloyd1

    There's some countries in Africa where they circumcise the women. After circumcision, the women can never get pleasured from sex.

    • I wouldn't call that circumcision.kgvs72
    • lol wtfmoldero
    • criiiiiiinggsea_sea
    • eismith
    • female circumcision is really a clit removal its equal to removing the tip of your dick not the foreskin.tredesigns
    • dark ages tradition, absolutely disgustingBennn
    • NOT EVEN CLOSE to the SAME THING Why would you bring this up here. Uncut men often can't last long enough to make a woman cum!UNCUT_is_GROSS
  • Nairn2

    But Female Genital Mutilation is wrong.

    • Not comparable.i_monk
    • Not comparable? It's exactly the same.fisheye
    • The UN classifies it as violence against women. In Canada the threat of it qualifies for refugee status.i_monk
    • FGM is designed to control women's sexuality and includes sewing up the vulva so she can't have sex before her wedding night.i_monk
    • i'd suggest that circumcision evolved to control men's psycho-sexual development too.Nairn
    • No greater God to a man than his own penis, so what better means to enforce physical and permanent branding?Nairn
    • Cut men don't have to undo sutures to have sex. FGM is more like removing the head of your dick than the foreskin.i_monk
    • It probably evolved to enhance men's psycho sexual developmentmonospaced
    • It probably didn't, it probably evolved to assert tribal control and compensate for people too fucking stupid to wash their own genitals properly.Nairn