Ban the Burqa?
Ban the Burqa?
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" trying to control the way another person presents themselves is moral dubious behaviour and is ultimately non-constructive."
isn't that what forcing someone to wear a burqa is doing? controlling the way they present themselves?
this issue is just one giant catch 22
- Gov legistaltion is not the same as cultural norms that create a predisposition to wear a Burqa.********
- the women don't want to wear that crap. they only say they do, because if they didn't, they'd pay for it.********
- and i grew up around muslim women. most of my family is muslim.********
- But it IS the law in many parts of the world, isn't it?ukit
- exactly. illegal NOT to wear it. i can't believe you're actually supporting this, lukus.********
- i know it may seem as though freedoms are being taken away, but really they are GIVING freedom, in the long run.********
- ..run.********
- an anology, it's like you're supporting man's "freedom" to cage his dog for life.********
- just because you're free to do something, doesn't mean it's harmless.********
- Provide legislature to allow women the opportunity to not wear a Burqa .. don't make it illegal to wear one.********
- 'banning' this kind of dress is a swing too far in the opposite direction, imo.********
- that would never work. the woman would take her burqa off and her husband would beat her to death.********
- You can't say that for sure. On a couple of levels, what you're proposing is similar to the concepts that led to the 'liberation' of Iraq.********
- .. 'liberation' of Iraq. It's a slippery slope.********
- We're really talking about stereotypes here - all a government can do is act dispassionately, and impartially. Anything else is wrong, imo.********
- Anything else is wrong, imo.********
- yeah, but the french aren't invading a muslim country and trying to 'liberate' them. they're protecting themselves********
- from the ills of religion********
- i understand protecting freedoms is important, but not when those freedoms are oppressive.********
- And as far as the husband beating his wife for taking off her burqa, yes i CAN say this for sure. times a million.********
- The decision by the French is either political or practical. If it's the former, it's a divisive move and possibly xenophobic imo.********
- No good will come from it -> it will create more (strongly felt) divides throughout French society.********
- just as religion has done for hundreds of years. yay for superstition.********
- I think I know what you mean and I think yr motivation is good .. but people can't be forced to do the wrong or right thing. Choice is key.********
- Choice is key.********
- not if it's harmful. i have the Choice to murder someone today. But society has deemed this choice harmful********
- ..and illegal.********
- That comparison is completely illogical. No one dies if a woman chooses to wear a Burqa.********
- You need to accept that some women will freely choose to dress in this way.********
- The oppression of women is harmful. this is not their choice anyway, they're being forced.********
- Re: 'forced to do the wrong or right thing', I was referring to imposing a world-view on a person via legislation.********
- as said, it's a catch 22. islam imposes their views on persons person via legislation. need to leave the office, bye.********
- You can't assume it's 'not their choice' -> some women (perhaps even the majority) will choose to dress in this way.********
- Okay, bye -> but Islam is no worse than Christianity imo.********
- the vast majority do not want to. i come from arabic culture, i know how those men control every move and action of their wives.********
- wives. and i'm not here to defend christianity. i'm against all forms of archaic practices and ways of thinking.********
- ok... bye********
- Gov legistaltion is not the same as cultural norms that create a predisposition to wear a Burqa.
- ********0
Banning Muslim religious dress in particular is singling out particular members of society.
If the route issue is identification - that issue needs to be addressed. If a law was to be introduced, the law would logically (and fairly) need to provide legislature that addresses that route issue.
- ukit0
Religion is an embarrassing relic of the past anyway. All comedians know this
- comedians are some of the most observant people in the world.********
- comedians are some of the most observant people in the world.